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Letter from a non-Muslim in “moderate” Indonesia


I received this illuminating message from “moderate” Indonesia. You can see from the author’s frustration and pain how difficult it truly is for non-Muslims in that “moderate” land:

I live in Indonesia where as non-Moslems we usually must bear derogatory comments on our religions. Recently a corrupt lawyer caused a stir by issuing a public statement that Islam alone is monotheistic and calling for the banning of other religions as paganistic.

It would be a worthy cause to cleanse the world of this hateful religion, which has ravaged mankind for one and half millennia. This false religion originated as a small sect in Arabia and spread by the sword forged in an Islamic narrative that has persisted unchallenged to this day.

This is the narrative that Moslems alone worship one God and that non-Moslems, including Jews and Christians, are idolaters. In Islam the severest sin is shirk, which is the sin of associating a creature with Allah. Branding non-Moslems as kaffirs, they have declared non-Moslem lands as the domain of war and waged war against us.

Non-Moslems have been dumb and powerless against this religious charge, this hateful narrative, used to justify aggression upon our person, conscience and property. A fact must be publicly established, proclaimed and disseminated that it is Islam that is a paganistic personality cult of shirk which has caused damage upon the earth.

The non-Moslem has three charges against Islam: That it makes a creature [Muhammad] an inseparable object of faith together with God, that Muhammad was a false prophet, that Muhammad was a vile criminal.

One cannot become a Moslem merely by professing the One God without also professing Muhammad as prophet. This association and partnering, this shirk, of Muhammad with God, is devoutly expressed in thoughts and speeches such as ‘Allah and Muhammad know’, ‘Allah and Muhammad decree’, ‘one must love Allah and Muhammad’, ‘he who does not profess Muhammad will go to hell’, ‘one must love Muhammad more than himself, his family and the whole world’, etc.

This makes Islam shirk and those who profess this profane creed mushirikun [perpetrator of shirk] and kaffir. The problem here does not lie in the relative position of Muhammad with God in their creed, but that Muhammad is in their creed with God in the first place. God alone may be the object of faith of mankind. We bring against Islam the charge of shirk and idolatry.

When the Israelites asked how they might know whether a prophet was truly sent from the Lord, He commanded them to ask for sign from the prophet. This is akin to a validation, a signature, on a document. I can’t just come to you and claim to be sent from the President without any proof.

The Bible requires a prophet to be validated either by miracle, the sign of Divine Omnipotence beyond human power, or by prophecy, the sign of Divine Omniscience beyond human knowledge. This is why the Jews and the Christians asked for a sign from Muhammad when he claimed to be a prophet.

Instead he claimed that no sign was necessary to prove this and that the Quran itself was the proof of his prophethood. The Jews and Christians rejected this ridiculous claim which amounted to showing a scribbled and unsigned letter claiming credential ‘because this letter says so’. We bring against Islam the charge of being a false religion.

The life of Muhammad needs no further comment or elucidation. No recidivist has led a life one-tenth as vile as what has been piously recorded by established and accredited Moslem historians concerning the founder of their religion. We bring against Islam countless charges of murder, rapine, violation, cruelty, degradation, inhumanity with all their attendant evils.

They insolently set themselves up as judges, prosecutors, and executioners against mankind and wreak damage upon the face of the earth. But a threatened non-Moslem can refuse to profess Muhammad as an act of shirk and may so preserve his life, person, conscience and property.

Many Moslems wish to be free of Islam but fear for their lives. Branding Islam as shirk and false will greatly support them in exercising their inalienable rights. Those committing religious aggression should be charged, prosecuted and punished according to the law of the land.

The task is easy but necessary. These charges must be voiced and disseminated. This narrative is based on facts and must be established. Muhammad was a mushirikun, a kaffir, and a false prophet. We will not suffer Moslems’ insolence anymore. Those who profess this cult of hate are themselves mushirikun and kaffir. Their religion is criminal and those who commit aggression are criminals and cultists.

I beseech you to use all means at your disposal to voice, establish, and disseminate this narrative and bring these charges against Islam and against Muhammad. A single compelling narrative originated one and a half millennia of religious aggression. A clear and implacable narrative will condemn and blot this false cult from off the face of the earth.

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  • Suresh

    well written piece on islam and stupidity of those who support it.

    That is why America needs Trump now more than ever and he is not afraid to call out son of bitches

    If Left/Liberal pro-jihadi holdovers are purged from govt , judiciary things will improve and Trump can do better job to improve security.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      A Stalinist type purge of the US federal and state governments would be a good start towards re-establishing a free democracy instead of a muslum puppet state, but that wouldn’t be enough, the legion of muslums and muslum collaborators would still constitute a 5th column and the recruits for endless islamic terrorism. Burmese Buddhists have the only solution and that is only a temporary one at best — because the forces of islamic imperialism/colonialism (the enemedia, the dying atheist West, muslum themselves) will constantly be trying to undermine their country.

  • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

    From Indonesia which is seeing its rich cultural heritage degraded (such as the Javanese shadow puppet play) while Children are give the names of desert Arabs a half world away. It is in such places that we see how grotesquely Arab Supremacist Islam was, is and will always be. It is worse than German Naziism.

  • Dennis

    Assuming this “letter” is actually real, I find it’s commentary reasonable and most definitely right on. In no uncertain terms it tells it as it is, and I would applaud it’s author. Personally, I have been referring to this belief system not as a religion as we would define that term, simply because the belief system that is Islam is a political philosophy that promotes and teaches it’s followers to Dominate, Subjugate, Overwhelm and commit acts of terror against non-Muslims, rather than promote a loving God, peace and harmony between all humankind. For many years, I have proposed doing just what is mentioned in this “letter,” and that is affirmatively and actively present this philosophical system as a totally false narrative from its writings which support Jihad to pointing out that their so-called prophet was a fraud and a no account who’s philosophy is a cancer on this planet. I am not pushing for violence, although I recognize that we may be required to act in self defense, but the bottom line is that we cannot continue to avoid the reality of what we face from these believers, and we must do everything to promote a world-wide understanding that this philosophy is not only a failed expression of a “religion,” but in fact is a political doctrine that is contrary to everything we consider sacred about our free world society. Future generations will definitely be affected by what we do today.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      The fact is muslums and muslum collaborating traitors are working avidly to deny you any public forum for criticising the damned, dumb, violent, fascist, Jew hating, totalitarian death cult called islam.

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        • IzlamIsTyranny

          MuhamMUD was a child molesting liar, thief, brigand, mass murderer, Jew hater and liar.

          • Laura

            Wow, I didn’t know that!

          • garry pollack

            read the quaran!

          • julea bacall

            And he was possessed by an entity Arabs call a Jinn, and he thought he was going crazy and should kill himself. His older wife wanted to save him so made up this angelic sounding rationalization and called in a friend who knew a lot about the Gnostic Christians….and they thought they could make lemonade out of lemons with a pretty story. Later, when the warlords wrote it all down they structured it to fit the goal of an empire run by them and added the Hadiths.

    • yiyoya

      What is your definition of Religion and what is your definition of Philosophy and how do they differ, is it simply the results of the belief system? If a belief system leads to good it is Religion, but if it leads to evil it is Philosophy? Would you claim that the bloodthirsty cannibals, the Aztecs and the Incas, worshipping their Sun-God, were not in fact practicing Religion, but were were practicing Philosophy? They were not practicing mysticism and superstition, they were practicing science?

      Communism, Fascism, Socialism, and Capitalism are political philosophies, none of which contain any overt or explicit appeals to Faith, Revelation, Mysticism, Superstition, or the Supernatural for their validity, as Islam does. I would argue just the opposite, that Islam is very much a religion, as a much a religion as the cannibalistic and human sacrificing Sun-god religion of the Aztecs and Incas. Strip Islam of it’s claim to divine revelation, strip it of it’s claim to access and passport to a higher, super-realm, strip of it of it’s claim to some higher knowledge, and it falls apart. Let the Koran contain one sentence that states the supreme, omniscient, omnipotent, wish-granting, prayer-fulfilling, eternal-life giving, creator and destroyer of the universe, Allah, doesn’t exist, Paradise doesn’t exist, the Supernatural doesn’t exist, and who would follow Mohammed, who would kill or die for Allah?

      • dennis

        Forgive me if I take some umbrage with what to me is playing with words. I do not intend to get into a semantic contest with you. Simply put, my definitions fit the reality of what this planet is facing from the Islamic Books/belief. Call your God by any name you choose, but please do not expect me to favor any God that promotes violence/domination/subjugation/gender inequality/and laws that are without decent merit in the free world in his so-called name. As I see the picture presented, Islam accepts an approach to governing that is as close as one could come to a theocratic/dictatorial system. Please do not raise the ancients to support your contentions, as those ancients (Incas/Aztecs) have no relevance today, except that they became essentially extinct, probably some how related to their belief systems which did not stand the test of time. Islam has been problematic since its creation, and we all need to recognize it for the danger that it is. It is that simple.

        • yiyoya

          You can take umbrage that is your right, it does not change the fact that Islam is a full-blown, complete Religion and not simply a political “philosophy”. There is no philosophy in Islam, there is barely any theological discourse worthy of being called theology either. What there is plenty of in Islam is religious Dogma based on Faith and Revelation in the Supernatural, supported not by rational argument, but by a barrage of threats. Discredit Faith and Revelation as valid forms of knowledge and Islam turns into the unintelligible gibberish of a madman.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Your definitions are not acceptable for discussion. Preconceived notions are dogma, which you are presenting as a counter argument to dogma.

          • yiyoya

            “A dogma is a set of beliefs accepted on faith; that is, without rational justification or against rational evidence. A dogma is a matter of blind faith.” – Ayn Rand

            Mahou, you sound like a professor at Berkeley or a member of Antifa.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You sound very much like a brain washed socialist, overly obsessed with self righteousness and an extremely closed mind. In your last sentence you did get one thing other than my name, right, your bias shows quite prominently. What do you think faith is, with reference to politics, religion or scientific theory? Your reading comprehension is very questionable.

          • yiyoya

            One thing about Ayn Rand that never ceases to amaze me Mahou, is just how hated and feared she is by the Left and by the Right. Her ideas are never directly addressed or refuted, it’s always ad hominem attacks.

            You’ve made no attempt to directly refute the substance of the definitions I have given you, you simply arrogantly dismiss them out of hand as unacceptable or unintelligible. Please stop attacking the messenger and address and refute the message. If not, you really should part ways with my posts and ignore them.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You are incapable of rational discussion of anything that conflicts with your dogma. There is no point in refuting your arguments as you are not capable of seeing another view point. Until you become open minded enough to recognize that no one “ism” is perfect, you will be of no particular use to any of them. The option of ignoring posts is mutual, if you don’t like my comments and are incapable of discussing them intelligently, feel free to ignore me.

          • Dennis

            Dear Mahou and yiyoya: Without getting into a battle over words, I suggest that we all SIMPLIFY the conversation by responding not to words but to the actions undertaken by those radicals that commit conduct that they justify is their right as outlined by those books and writings that encompass the concept referred to as Islam. That conduct, which condones mayhem against non-believers, and considers martyrdom an affirmative privilege that is granted in the afterlife, is, without doubt, some of the basics on which these radicals justify their foul acts of murder. If we all cannot recognize that, we are all lost. That being the case, reality is primary and semantics does not change that reality. The dangers emanating from this belief system is frightening. Let us all get real!

          • julea bacall

            Can you just get to the simple point that we all know?

  • Trump can’t ban islam

    nonsense of a letter. according to muslims mohammad after preaching islam to a caravan of infidels went to rest under his camel, in a dream islam ruled the east and the west. islam already rules the east and is starting to rule the west before your very eyes.
    percentage of muslim population in USA
    2010: 0,9%
    2017: 2,6% …. an increase of 200% in just 7 years! …. and GROWING!
    islam will dominate.

    • gfmucci

      Like the Black Plague, the scourge of Europe.

    • ed

      Islam will dominate goats rectums…..little else.

  • Thorsten


    ‘Freedom – International Day of the Girl’ -> 40/2, ‘beat them’ to allah’s law 5/48

  • Tamara Hussey Jewer

    Easy fix. Let Burma trade their Rohigya Muslims for non Muslims in Indonesia. All the crazy, dangerous people can get into one place and let the rest of us live in peace…

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      A good fix — except for the fact muslums will be lying about their faith in order to join that group.

      • Tamara Hussey Jewer

        Definitely possible. But at least Burma could send them back as they get caught

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          It depends on how many immigrants you’re talking about. Monitoring millions of immigrants to determine if they’re muslums could be possible — but expensive.

      • balafama

        well we can use the beer and bacon test to verify the impostors from true non muslims. but the leftists will lose their minds

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Cheaper just to put a qur’an in the washroom stalls, beside the toilet paper. Those who use the qur’an are legitimate refugees, those who use paper, might ok, those that use neither, are muslims, toss those filthy beggars out.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    islam will destroy itself, by the ever tightening spiral of hate, ignorance and bigotry, the tribal cult of islam is fighting constantly within itself and with every one else. Eventually there will be a conflict, even more than now, where the cults of islam openly declare war on each other, which will lead to islam, as a whole being weakened. As natural starvation and disease that accompanies muslims everywhere, they will fight more for survival than before.

    • gfmucci

      Unfortunately, Islam may not “destroy itself” for another century or so. In the meantime it will control and kill throughout Europe and make serious inroads into the US. This onslaught may not be reversible without massive bloodshed at some point.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        It is inevitable that there will be a major bloody conflict between islam and the rest of the world. It is only a question of when.

    • Michelle

      If islam wins the human population will be far less than 1 billion within 100-200 years. Islam is parasitic and can only function when it has someone to feed off. Who supplies the world with aid and food? the west. All they will do is kill the golden goose and mankind will hit a dark age unlike any other and there will be NO monasteries in which to hide the knowledge. and we will have to start from scratch as we did 12000 years ago. This is what is coming!

    • Apothis

      Islam will not destroy itself because of the fear of violent retribution. Islam can be greatly diminished by the west but will never be destroyed.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        That is no reason not to make every effort to destroy it.

        • Apothis

          I totally agree. But my point was Islam will not destroy itself.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            There are serious flaws in islam, that in the past, wire not critical as information and ideas were slow to move around. Today, with the speed of communications, ideas move fast, as do reaction times. A little encouragement will pry these cracks open wider allowing them to split islam into factions, which, are inherently violent towards everyone, including other muslims.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            How long would you propose waiting for islum to destroy itself? Shari’a law is already incipient allah across the dying atheist West, from Canada to Australistan.
            I’d prefer to see the total destruction of islamic states — and I don’t care how many f’ing muslums die.

  • Jim Austin

    Quran’s exhortations to kill infidels exercise a pull on all Moslems. Those moderates who resist their ethical imperative feel themselves morally compromised as opposed to those pure minded souls who go on killing sprees. Moderates are vulnerable to extremist arguments from shared premises. Extremists have no such vulnerability.

    At any time, some miserable moderate will undergo a crisis of conscience and decide to become consistently righteous and join in the carnage.

    • Nefarious420

      No such thing as a moderate muslim, just muslims that are not yet openly declaring jihad, but supporting it with funds, and indoctrination in our public funded schools.

  • gfmucci

    Non-Muslims in the US are just as ignorant and stupid about Islam – especially most media and government politicians and bureaucrats. Most Christian churches in the US are Islam enablers, facilitating the death of Christianity.

    • Paul Pleau

      Yes indeed. All one has to do is read the koran. Just read it. It will scare the hell out any sane person.

      • julea bacall

        Not scare but disgust and wonder at how people could believe this rot. I guess if you are born into it and no one ever questions & if they do they are severely publicly punished & you never meet people living free and happy outside…..
        And even if you finally get it that it is not for real, still the lingering fear that Allah will get you if you turn around….plus it gives wild men a purpose and releases them to rape, lust. kill, whatever and say its for Allah might be appealing to some… No, this must be stopped. Muslims must stop it themselves and we must support those who call for real reform. Why don’t we Support those who call it out?

    • raj

      Muslim hater dirty kuffar natanyahoo’s dikk fukker

  • Alleged-Comment

    A CLASH of civilization is coming again. You bought their oil. They then raised their prices to fund JIHAD. They have become thoroughly rich and brought hardship to Western countries.

    We funded their Jihad through corruption and corny-ism. I lay this at the feet of every Congogressmen and president since WWII.

    Today, stupid non-productive Moslems live high on the hog for doing nothing all day. We built everything they have. From gold-gilded palaces, to their nonsense private gold-fitted jets and Lamborghini and Ferrari cars. That is where all your money is going. To the stupid lazy Arab. They also do this with the stupid lazy Negro.

    They build their tiered Mosques all across your country as your TOMBSTONES. Then the leftover is used to shoot and bomb you.

    • Cai

      JUST WHO IS STUPID if they are living high on the hog for doing nothing at all and we built everything they have and have funded their lifestyle from our money?

      Only a society with a death wish would pander to and coddle INVADING ARMIES OF DEATH.

    • Dwadle

      Not only we buy their oil, we provided our western technology to dig up the oil. Without our technology, they’d still drive their camels.

  • IzlamIsTyranny

    I wonder what the all muslum Indonesian authorities would do to this writer if they caught him?
    Has Indonesia even owned up to its responsibility in the genocide of between 200,000 and 800,000 assorted kafir (mostly Catholic) in E. Timor?

  • Paul Pleau

    And yet the entire world support, condones and defends this fascism.

  • Jackie Puppet

    Muhammad’s “miracle” was fathering a chimera (half-man, half goat), but the goat failed to conceive – that’s why Muhammad said no proof was necessary.

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