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Antifa Supporters Edit Group’s Wikipedia Page to Downplay Terrorism Categorization


But go to my Wikipedia page, or that of any of my colleagues. Our pages are all wrong, full of lies, leftist false charges, and defamation. But they’re all unchangeable. Any attempt to correct them in favor of the truth is immediately edited out by Wikipedia’s leftist moderators.

“Antifa Supporters Edit Group’s Wikipedia Page to Downplay Terrorism Categorization,” by T.D. Adler, Breitbart, September 27, 2017 (thanks to Christian):

Following Breitbart’s previous coverage of edits made to the Antifa Wikipedia page downplaying the group’s violence, a discussion including Antifa supporters led to the removal of language from the group’s Wikipedia entry intro noting DHS and FBI have categorized Antifa violence as terrorism.

These editors have also fought to include material labeling former Breitbart Tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos as “alt-right,” a label he has repeatedly rejected, to provide “context” to violent disruption that caused the cancellation of his Berkeley speaking engagement last February.

Wikipedia for several weeks included in the introduction to its article on Antifa in the United States a line noting Politico’s report that the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI under the Obama administration internally classified Antifa violence as domestic terrorism. Both that and other material regarding the movement’s characterization as a terrorist group has been hotly contested by editors on the article.

Doug Weller, a member of the site’s Arbitration Committee, initiated a discussion on removing the material from the intro, questioning the veracity of Politico’s reporting on the matter. Including Weller, eight editors weighed in, with only two opposing the deletion. However, two of those wanting the material removed from the intro have apparent sympathies for Antifa.

One of the two editors, named “Arms & Hearts,” identifies himself as an anarcho-communist and includes an Antifa image on his profile page. The other is “Bobfrombrockley” who identifies himself as a Marxist and states on his profile page that he “supports antifa in combating fascism in both word and action.”

As the other six editors were closely divided on whether to have the terrorist designation in the intro, these two were enough to establish a firm “consensus” on removing the material, and the anarcho-communist Antifa supporter implemented the decision. Both he and another editor then removed other references to terrorism from the article. While material about the Politico report was still included in the body of the article, Weller edited it to caveat the veracity of the report.

The Marxist Antifa supporter, in addition to another edit downplaying Antifa violence, added a statement that Yiannopoulos was “alt-right” despite this not being included in the cited New York Times article. He justified this edit by stating it was to provide “context” to Antifa violence at Yiannopoulos’ UC Berkeley event in February that was canceled for safety reasons. Editor Policpolicy cited the lack of sourcing and removed the label, sparking an edit war with editors adding other sources to support the label. On his own Wikipedia page, Yiannopoulos is only described as being “associated” with the alt-right.

Editor Darkness Shines brought the issue to the article’s discussion page, stating the sources were opinion pieces, but other editors rejected his position, including the two Antifa supporters. While some sources cited would not qualify as opinion, these sources did not mention Antifa or the violence at UC Berkeley. Wikipedia’s policy on material about living people strictly prohibits “original research” including unpublished synthesis where editors use reliable sources about an unrelated topic to imply a conclusion otherwise not supported by the sources.

Due to his repeated attempts to remove the alt-right label, Darkness Shines was reported for edit-warring, where he argued the policy on material about living people permitted his edits, as removing material violating the policy is often exempt from edit-warring restrictions. Administrator Bishonen blocked Darkness Shines for 31 hours without addressing this argument.

Mention of Breitbart’s coverage of the editing on the article also became a point of contention for Wikipedia users. After Drmies, another member of the Arbitration Committee, congratulated E. M. Gregory for being mentioned in Breitbart’s reporting on the dispute, Gregory added a link to the piece at the top of the article discussion page where media coverage of Wikipedia articles is noted. Drmies removed it stating Breitbart is an “unreliable source.”

Gregory started a discussion about this claim on Wikipedia’s Reliable Sources Noticeboard, noting it was standard to mention media coverage of Wikipedia articles, including by Breitbart. Editors were divided on the matter, with one opposed to mentioning the coverage going so far as to suggest it would be “tantamount to harassment” to note the piece at the top of the talk page.

One other dispute on the article concerned a section on the use of Twitter by members of the alt-right to spread fake claims of Antifa violence to further associate the movement with violence, which was originally part of a “smear campaigns by the far right” section. Editor Saturnalia0 removed the section stating it was excessive to include, and other editors restored the section, including yet another member of the Arbitration Committee, GorillaWarfare….

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  • jbsteele

    Since by most rational people’s definition of fascism, antifa *IS* a fascist group, I guess that banner they’re carrying is a plea for someone to put them out of their misery.

    • Collin R. Hinrichs

      I was thinking along the same lines.

  • Collin R. Hinrichs

    Steven Crowder infiltrated Antifa in Utah prior to Ben Shapiro’s speech there. He has them on tape handing out weapons and planning to lure people to somewhere they had firearms. He showed the cops, so they could arrest the ones they had on tape and prevent the probable murder of people at the hands of these scum bags.
    Here’s the rub: Crowder showed the lame stream media that was there the undercover footage, proof positive of their demonic intentions, and in the presence of police, and they WALKED AWAY.
    The weak stream media is complicit in blacking out the true, murderous nature of these demons.

    • Mahdi Al-Dajjal

      Why would the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party expose what the militant wing of the Democrat Party is really up to?

      • Collin R. Hinrichs

        There have been lame stream camera men that have had to have staples put in their head from whacks to the head courtesy of the militant wing. But you’re right on point, they’ve been providing cover for them, because they’re the same.

  • AlgorithmicAnalyst

    That’s the problem with Wiki, you always have to assume it has been edited by biased leftists.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      Or muslums. The wikipedia entries for islum and Saladin, the genocidal, Turkish muslum slaver are a laugh riot of islamic propaganda.

    • TD

      ANTIFA’s banner makes me laugh: “The only good facist is a dead facist”.
      Will they commit mass suicide then?

      • TD

        ANTIFA, White supremacists (yes, “ALL SIDES” as Trump says), CAIR, and other Muslim Nationalists need to be declared Terrorist organizations and surveilled like crazy.

        ANTIFA definitely since there is so much evidence that they advocate violence for political reasons (which is the definition of terrorism)!

        (But CAIR should be the first declared as a terrorist org).

        • Zac Cashman

          there is a difference between white identitarians, white nationalists and white supremacists

          Identatrians simply want the massive amounts of black on white crime brought to light, an end to people being treated special because of their skin color & for people to stop treating white people like the devil despite the fact that white people & western culture have progressed the wold more then any other.

          Nationalists simply want their right to congregate with people of their own choosing restored, or barring that the ability to set up their own self governing ethnostates like which was set up as a refuge for white people & so far is the only safe place to be white in south africa where black on white murders are insanely high.

          Actual white supremacists like nazi’s are nearly non existent & likely only number a few thousand meth head gang members across the entire US.

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      • IzlamIsTyranny

        LOL, good point.

  • IzlamIsTyranny

    The only good fascist for the antifa brownshirts are muslums — because islum is a totalitarian, fascist ideology. Hopefully if any antifa scum stand up for the f’ing muslums in Burma the Burmese Buddhists will give them a good dirt nap.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    wikipedia is risking irrelevance if it allows political bias to influence its information. In the past I have financially contribute a little bit as I do occasionally use it as a reference. That is over, if I cannot trust the information as being reasonably impartial, then it is worth nothing, which is what I will pay for it.

    • santashandler

      Good move. Nothing like referencing a book. At least, no one came come in years later and “edit” things.

  • When I post on a science forum or other informal debate forum I refuse to acknowledge the wiki-pee-D-uh source as legitimate without negotiation. I’ve been boycotting that site for well over 10 years and have had no reason to change my mind.

  • Drew the Infidel

    What with the slanted and opinionated articles that permeate Wikipedia, it is especially galling that they have the temerity to regularly beg for donations from “users” to keep the enterprise afloat. Who in their right mind would donate? Think of all the cold beer that money would buy.

    You want to get to the bottom of the “collusion” that special counsel Robert Mueller cannot find? It is on full display on Wikipedia and all the other social media sites like “Fakebook” and Twitter.

  • AR154U☑ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ DEPLORABLE 2020

    Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and their DNC counterparts only march in Liberal enclaves and strongholds, making threats, lighting fires, burning Our flag and chanting for the killing of first responders !!

  • Midniterider

    These left wingnuts are the “JV” of any kind of terrorism.The violence they bring is the work of backshooters and gang type of violence,more of the RICO type than the AL Q type.They fit more into the “Seditionist/Criminal/Vandal” category than “Terrorist” and should be looked upon as such.Yeah they are somewhat dangerous,if they’re wearing their bandanna masks and have odds of 20 to one on their side.Terrorists? Nah,a bunch of punkass college idiots looking for some anonymous cheap thrills and having bragging rights to the ANTIFA groupies.They ain’t sh*t without their masks and numbers,and aren’t WMD loving/IED planting,murderin,torturing lunatic REAL terrorists waving around AKs and RPGs and murderin masses of innocents.
    Save the “Terrorist” designation for the real deal,and DON’T get too free throwing it around IMO.That can come back and biteya down the road.
    DON’T get me wrong,in NO WAY do I in ANY way support anything ANTIFA says or does,and IMO they ALL needed their a$$e$ beat when they were children instead of being mommies wittle babies and still NOW are,while supposedly going to a college and being educated in what has become a leftard WASTELAND of idiocy and Anti-American sentiments and politicized teachings,mostly by the enemies of the USA and Freedom……..Despicable…
    Semper Fi

  • JoeNormal

    ANTIFA is a creation of the Communist Party of Germany. I brought up the recent spate of “Antifa” edits on Wikipedia with an editor……who said he’d “look at it”. He’s probably one of those referred to in the article. The Original Antifa Wikipedia entry was a lengthy one, which traced the roots back to the CP of Germany….and the ANTIFA Banner is the same flag as that group…..but the Wikipedia article gets shorter and shorter….every day……….

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