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King Salman’s Lies

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Before we get to Trump’s speech, I would like to comment on King Salman’s remarks prior to President Trump’s speech to the Muslim world. Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud is King of Saudi Arabia, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, and head of the House of Saud.

Behind the flag of the sword and shahada (much like the ISIS flag), King Salman declared, “Islam is the religion of mercy and tolerance and co-existence as confirmed by brilliant precedence. In its prosperous times Islam provided the best examples of co-existence and harmony among followers of religions and cultures.” Good for Muslims, horrible for non-believers, who were forced to live under dhimmitude, paying the jizya and living in a state of subjugation. No mention of the hundreds of millions slaughtered in jihadi wars, land appropriations, cultural annihilations and enslavements.

He talks about the forces of “extremism” – Saudi Arabia under sharia rule defines the force of extremism.

He speaks with the forked tongue of Obama administration, using “countering violent extremism,” the West’s euphemism for Islamic holy war. It’s jihad, and the King knows it.

The King cites as proof of peaceful Islam,  a qur’anic verse stolen and twisted from the Talmud, “Islam is the religion of peace and tolerance. It considers an innocent tantamount to killing all of humanity.”

This is wholesale theft from the Talmud (an authoritative record of rabbinic discussions on Jewish law, Jewish ethics, customs, etc.): “Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.” Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5; Yerushalmi Talmud 4:9, Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 37a.

Here is what the Qur’an really says:

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption in the land — it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one — it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. (5:32)

First, note that this is not a general moral principle applying to everyone, as Obama implied, but one only for the Children of Israel. Nor is it is not a general prohibition of killing: there are big exceptions for those who kill “for a soul or for corruption in the land.” And it concludes that even after this command was given, “many of them, after that … were transgressors” — so all it is really saying is that Allah gave a command to the Children of Israel and they transgressed against it. It isn’t anything more than yet another Qur’anic castigation of the Jews.

Also, it is followed in the Qur’an by 5:33, which specifies the punishment for the corruption and transgressions of the Children of Israel: “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.”

Thus this passage is explaining what must be done with Jews who reject Muhammad, not dictating lofty moral principles. Ibn Warraq sums it up: “The supposedly noble sentiments are in fact a warning to Jews. ‘Behave, or else’ is the message. Far from abjuring violence, these verses aggressively point out that anyone opposing the Prophet will be killed, crucified, mutilated, and banished!”

  • wildjew

    President Trump repeatedly told these dignitaries to “drive them (the extremists) out” of your holy land. Wouldn’t that entail driving authentic or authoritative Islam out of their holy land?

  • wildjew

    Shared.

  • Devolutionist

    I do not see any good of islam its still in 600ad

  • 007

    It never ends. 13-year old girl raped by two Turkish Muslims (19 and 31) in Wismar, Germany.
    http://www.nordkurier.de/mecklenburg-vorpommern/13-jaehrige-bei-wismar-vergewaltigt-2027951605.html
    She met one of them through a messenger service. The two men broke into her home when she was home alone and raped her. As always, German mainstream media is hiding the identity of the rapists.

  • Mark Steiner

    One wonders: did the President swallow real hard as he heard these comments praising Islam? Does a prolific business deal worth $110 billion trump the savagery of Boko Haram, ISIL/ISIS,the Muslim Brotherhood and others? Does he feel better about this “achievement”?

    He apparently needs more education about Islam.

  • Bronish

    I guess We The Deplorables can see more clearly than President Trump in regards to who is the enemy.
    Saudi Arabia is Not Our Friend….big, fat liar is King Salman. How to get to heaven, he says is following the tenets of Islam…I didn’t quote him exactly, nor do I know how to pull a quote from one source and move it elsewhere. But, basically he stated heaven is reached thru Islam! LIAR!
    He stated other lies also, as big and blatant as the heaven lie.
    I would agree that President Trump needs to do his homework in regards to Islam.

  • Bronish

    Islam is Islam. There’s no such thing as “radical”, or “extreme” Islam terrorists. It’s just Islam.
    Perhaps President Trump hasn’t read what vile and horrible stuff is actually in the Islamic Quran.
    All Islamic atrocities can be traced back the Quranic teachings.
    Islam is Islam.

    • No Quarter

      right on Bronish!! islam=death.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      As Turkish dictator Erdogan said:
      “These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”
      But I guess he didn’t indict “secular” islum (cough, gag, choke).

    • MattBracken

      Calling Islam “one of 3 Abrahamic religions” is a monstrous lie which Trump has fallen for. Islam is the anti-religion; the Koran, Hadith and Sira make clear 100s of times that Christians and Jews are the mortal enemies of Islam, who must never be befriended, who must be killed, converted, or forced into dhimmi status. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d652d11440f09eb50e739180f9c6031ea7d9b1ed9691ce71b396a4d607450db.jpg

      • joanofark06

        Thank you MattBracken…I’m glad someone see’s Trump for what he is. Ignorant, lost, on islam. To see him “bend down” to the saudi king (an islamist king), to receive that “necklace”, and to give saudi arabia ??? dollars in arms, was really ignorant. I knew I would get mad about something he would say, in his speech, and now, after what you’ve told me, I’m glad I didn’t listen. I supported Trump at the beginning, and things were really going well. I thought he was going to be the “man” for America. Sadly, he’s been going downhill about a month of him being president, IMO. Wish there was some way, someone would get through to him, about Islam, but oh well…sure thought he might of had a “little” christian in him! .I don’t see “Make America Great” happening anytime soon. Hope everyone see’s your picture, if they have no clue about islam. (where can I get a copy of that pic, or can I use yours to spread around?)

    • joanofark06

      That’s exactly how I feel…thank u! I don’t what kind of game Trump is playing, but he’s playing it with fire! Going over to Saudi Arabia, and receiving that “necklace”, proves to me, that he’s not going to do ANYTHING about the muslims here! Or anywhere….just talk, talk, and more talk. To bad I supported him at the beginning…he’s just gotten worse and worse from there. Sad…

  • Dear Mr. President,
    I am one of your (and Americas) biggest fans. For sure you have the energy, common sense and heart to make America great again. BUT please allow me to suggest to you the only thing you need to complete your mission, and it is indeed the most important thing of all. Fortunately it’s just a simple book that will provide you the wisdom to chart the correct course to finally make our world civilized again. It only cost $11.92 at Amazon and the name of the book is
    The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades). Please read it and study it. You will then have the knowledge that heretofore has been missing in ALL of our Presidents.
    Thank You
    Good Luck.& God Bless You and Your family

    • rh2

      Or why not send Trump a one-page website called “Islam for Dummies” that explains the basics of the ROP ( and hope he gets to read it). Address it to: comments@whitehouse.gov

      • joanofark06

        I agree!

    • joanofark06

      Yes, I agree. I sure wish someone, somewhere, somehow….would wake this president up to islam. Apparantly he’s lost and confused on the subject, and following in obummer’s footsteps, in this aspect.

  • Merlin

    Do keep in mind that Saudi Arabia has secretly agreed to allow Israeli military jets to fly over its territory in an attack on Iran. Without this there will be no Israeli aircraft response to Iranian aggression on Israel.

    Things are not always what they seem.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      Israel would have to be insane to trust the Soddy Barbarians. Sure the Soddy Barbarians might allow the IAF to fly over sovereign Soddy Barbarian airspace to attack Iran, their Shi’a enemies, but would Soddy Barbaria allow them to return? Or would they open up w/everything they had on the returning IAF jets and be the heroes to the Sunni islamic world?

      • Grant Woodside

        And why doesn’t SA attack Iran with it’s own jets.
        No Muslim country on Earth can be trusted.

        • joanofark06

          Perfect answer…agree completely. Some people just want to accept islam, as a decent religion, with so kind, “moderate” muslims. It’s so sad…and detrimental to their life!

  • ahem

    President Trump knows what you know about the Islamic Revival, and more. He knows these guys are full of crap and duplicitous and playing a charade right now—he knows that. So, by the way, is he. It’s all a theatre piece. He has doubtless already discussed this with Israel, and it’s part of a broader plan.

    He also knows that he wants the Saudis to manage their own mess–their own power is threatened by Iran and ISIS—and he wants America, and American lives, safely out of it. For all he cares, they can remain barbarians in the desert for the rest of their lives. We’ll be producing our own oil, and the middleast will become irrelevant to us. (If they screw up, he will have no compunction at all about turning their country into a sea of glass.) Right now, everything is on the table. Might as well start by ‘taking the lumps out’ first and saving harsher measures for later, if needed.

    To defeat Shi’a Islam Iran, you need a Sunni Islam counterbalance. He is trying to even up the balance of power in the middleast, while carving out more favorable, and permanent, circumstances for Israel. The Saudis are going to attempt to protect themselves covertly and illegally, anyway; we may as well help them overtly and legally by amplifying the relationship they already have with Israel.

    Ask yourself: how many terror operations for propaganda have been mounted by SA and its allies with the goal in mind of dragging the US military in to fight for them by proxy? Trump is saying stop the destructive secretive crap, and start fighting for your own interests.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      Yeah we should’ve allied w/the SA Nazis against the SS nazis because the SA were the “good” guys. Put down the crack pipe.

    • joanofark06

      I hope your right, but how long, before you decide, that he’s not “playing a charade”, and really supports islam?

      I supported him at the beginning of his term, but about a month after that, I could see it clear….he’s not going to do anything about the muslims here in america, he’s not going to anything, anywhere…about islam.
      He’s following in Obummer’s footsteps, and America is going down….open your eyes to what Trump is doing…or just keep supporting him, with all your hope and dreams. I wish I had that much patience, to stay asleep. I am, really, sooo disappointed in Trump, and I don’t see him changing for the better.

  • Daniel FX Dravot

    Speaking on Turkish television’s Kanal D Arena program, President Erdogan commented on the term “moderate Islam”, an expression often used in Western media. He stated “These descriptions are very ugly. It is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”

  • Maranatha

    Royal taqqiya..

  • The real and only Toedeladoki

    AMEN !!!!!!!!!

  • Mahou Shoujo

    If a muslim iOS talking, they are lying. That is a fact. the only question is which islamic tenet of lies they are using.
    • Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam. [4] [5]
    • Kitman: deceit by omission.[6]
    • Tawriya: deceit by ambiguity.[7]
    • Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not having to observe all the tenets of Sharia).[8]
    • Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden).[9]
    • Muruna: the temporary suspension of Sharia in order that Muslim immigrants appear “moderate”.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      Nice job separating the Shi’a and Sunni sacralized concepts of dishonesty.
      I’d imagine Taqiyya is a farsi word.
      Happy Sunday.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Merry Sunday and happy Monday.

  • Peter Joffe

    Trump did very well in his speach but really he is talking to that wall. If Muslims want to progress to the peace and prosperity of the West they have to submit the the laws and norms of the West and not try to impose their barbarism on us. We are really saying to Muslims – “you are welcome to join us and live with us but under our laws and morals not yours? Just as we may welcome you to join civilization we also do not oppose you not coming at all. If Islam is what you want then don’t come to the West as civilization and Islam do not have a place together. Sharia Law has no place in the world but if Sharia is what Muslims want then they can get it in Muslim Countries.

    • joanofark06

      “then don’t come to the West”

      Too late…….their here by the thousands …they’ve got camps all around the US, their in our congress, they are our doctors, lawyers, sheriff’s, mayors, fbi agents, their in our schools, etc etc…

  • Drew the Infidel

    Oh yes, remember those prosperous years when the Saudis were flush with cash from oil sales and throwing their weight around like the “nouveau riche” who do not know how to conduct themselves in their newly found state of prosperity? Remember OPEC and the “Arab Oil Embargo” of the ’70s where they stopped exporting oil to the US for having signed a peace deal with Israel? Remember those gas shortages and long lines at the pump to buy gasoline, hopefully before it was all sold out? Remember 9/11, with Osama bin Laden and fifteen of the nineteen hijackers being Saudi?

    Selective amnesia will get you killed.

  • Oracle9

    It’s true to the Arab/Muslims when they mention peace and justice. Except they mean different things to Westerners, sucks us our leaders in every time.

    Translations:
    Peace = peace under Islam
    Justice = lawfulness and judgment under Islamic totalitarian Sharia law

    I know this, and a very small percentage of my friends know about this. Why then do NONE of our leaders know it?

    They would all do well to read and listen to those heroes who are trying to educate the thick skulls of Westerner apologists. But none or few of them ever do.

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