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Boko Haram Child Bombings in Nigeria Quadruple Between 2016 and 2017

[ August 23, 2017 ]

Pope Francis Faces Backlash for Migrant Demands: ‘Italy Cannot Support Everyone’

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[ August 23, 2017 ]

France: Charlie Hebdo accused of “Islamophobia” for Barcelona cartoon

[ August 23, 2017 ]

Crooks and Liars Stokes Leftist Outrage Over Pamela Geller Protesting Ban From PayPal

[ August 23, 2017 ]

Christian Teenager Who Survived Muslim Raid on Substation Faces Death Sentence — For Blasphemy

[ August 23, 2017 ]

UK lawyer: ‘Zionists should all be shot, Jewish refugees bombed — NOT disbarred

[ August 23, 2017 ]

Hindu Youth Stabbed to Death by Six Muslims in Delhi Mall After Minor Scuffle

VIDEO Resident of Calais speaks: “This is the death of civilization”


What powerful testimony. This woman’s description of life (what little there is) in her French hometown is a horror. Muslims roam the streets in wild packs — raping, robbing, attacking. “And the police do nothing.” And still the Muslim migrants come in untold numbers.

Heart breaking description of how a government can destroy a city and a people. If ever there was an example of why a free people need a 1st and 2nd amendment style protection, this is it. Please watch it all.

  • Migration without assimilation is an invasion. Http://

    • MattBracken

      Exactly. This is an INVASION. Historians will scratch their heads in wonder at Europe allowing an invasion of millions of fighting-age Moslem men in rubber boats. Was there ever an invasion that would have been easier to stop? Camp of the Saints has been proven out: Europeans will not fight to defend their culture from destruction and their people from subjugation.

      Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive

      L’offensive islamique en Europe: un Têt numéro 2?

      • Matt, I just read Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive, WOW! I had envisioned years ago Europe’s demise, and I saw Islam as cancer that kills the host.(Whoever the host may be) Awesome picture and description of what has happened, and what will likely happen again. You nailed it! History does repeat itself. I’ve done research for my novel, and I knew immigration was the Islamic agenda to achieve conquest,(hijra) but I hadn’t done that vivid of picturing. I did, however, see the patterns of Islamic expansion via migration, and I know they don’t assimilate, they put a guy in a suit, create a Muslim front group and spout propaganda. I do see that day when all H… breaks out as well in Europe; I can only guess they are acquiring weapons, waiting to get their numbers and getting somewhat organized. The left, such pawns, being sacrificed and their citizens, for the ultimate sacrifice of their sovereignty. But Europe, unless they do man up and fight, will be lost to an Islamic bunch of raping thugs, and by invitation. My book Invasion 2020 deals with Islam via stealthy infiltration, influence and the lefts love affair with political correctness, mostly centered in the US, but at times, I refer to what happens elsewhere. Thanks for sharing that great, post on Gates of Vienna! From one writer to another, keep writing, I’m going to have to get your books!

        • MattBracken

          How far along is your novel?

          • Matt, it’s done. I’m working on the second one. My site gives a snapshot about the story, how I came to write about it and my book trailer. The book is on Amazon, in Kindle and paperback. It’s meant to open eyes, via a story, to get average people to think, read, study and learn on their own instead of regurgitating what they hear from the lap-dog media pundits. Many people (the uninformed masses, not the smart ones who are here) still think Islam is a religion (and of peace) and are clueless about the tyrannical political ideology of Islam and it’s drive for conquest. I was onto the danger years ago. I got educated myself; and now I want to help spread the word, in story form to expose lies and reveal the truth. It has about 400 references so people can look in the back, and go to the sources. Thanks for taking your interest, appreciate it. Your writing is amazing, btw.

        • aebe

          Do not lose sight of this : Tet ’68 was won by the good guys , and came close to annihilating the Viet Cong .
          538th MTC , Long Binh RVN ’70-’71

          Validate your 2nd Amendment Rights . Carry

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            But the US government wasn’t collaborating w/N. Vietnam.

          • aebe

            There were enough politicians and others who supported the NV , that south Viet Nam was handed to the communists as if it were a party favor . Close enough .

      • Dr. Doomsday

        Uh huh…

  • steelraptor from Saturn

    I’ve been meaning to pick up Michel Houellebecq’s book Submission, which is proving downright prophetic about France (and as has been observed, was released the day of the Charlie Hebdo massacre).

  • Ethan Dietz

    I am not much of a club guy, but if she started one, I would be in it with all my heart.

  • Paula

    The muslim invasion of today was the Bubonic Plague of yesteryear! This modern plague has taken 7 years to sweep across Europe and quickly traveling east to America! And not ONE leader is doing anything to stop it.

    • iWildwood

      Far too many leaders, to include our own, are doing far too much to promote it.

      • Paula

        Absolutely. All of them. These “leaders” of ours need to be held accountable. And soon!

        • Dr. Doomsday

          And they are so clueless, they figure they can dance with the Devil and avoid the problem themselves… thats never a good idea..

    • Rod Dodger

      The promised locusts…

    • durabo

      “One round, one kill” (Gunny Hathcock USMC)

  • yourmaster

    good thing Trump will be president soon. :D
    …the left and muslims will be in full retreat then, and probably cowering in their caves or under their rocks.

    • Rod Dodger

      It’s not scripted that way. Iran will not let their Obama-gains fade away.
      The Persian Muslims will not let another Ronald Reagan put them in their place.
      This all likely ends with Barack in office.

    • durabo

      Sheikh Hussein al-Obamastan may declare martial law in order to remain in power. Fortunately, most of those in military and law-enforcement service absolute DESPISE the Kenyan POS, and will fight alongside us.

  • apichorus

    How in the name of god did these sub-humans convince massive liberals, aka normal people, that any criticism of their sub human , behavior is islamophobia,
    how the hell did that word come into being?
    imagine if Jewish people at every incident of anti-semitism were to have shouted, Judamisphobia judamisphobia, wtf, how did the elite enter this word into the vocabulary in most of the continent, no pity, they are on the way out,
    but in US, next here, at a theater near you. These animals (hey, no need to mention this name that supposedly is their religion) since it does ‘t matter,
    they are sub-human maurading animals, not at all different than on the continent,
    Germany is gone, UK, France about to be, Belgium, Sweden, waking up far too late, supposedly going to deport 80K. LOL if they can find them,
    And and and, none of their clergy of co-“religionists” has ever protested, the behavior of their jihad, muzzie, migrantrapists,
    Never, Ovomit will tell you that they are his sons
    wish one would perhaps consider patricide, but that is a pipe-dream.

    A terrible terrible experiment by our lord, , resulting in millions and millions of sub human beings, they must be all tied up in one of the 60 or so mostly muslim countries, and kept there with their brethren, let them rape each other, they seem to enjoy that too, no matter what their allah says, lock then up in one of 60 effin countries where they are already anyway the majority
    Pakistan, good place to start, jail them for rape, and have them enjoy the prison experience in Pakistan,

    • Aleteia

      The left likes thugs, criminals and low life citizens – the stupider, the better. On their shoulder and with their votes the left climbs and keeps power. This is what happened in the Soviet Union, China and the rest of the socialist countries.

  • Lia

    My heart goes out to this woman. Praying for Europe and its people.

    • imakymama

      Please include USA in your prayers, too. It’s only a matter of time until we will be facing the same events also. With the hundreds of thousands already brought here by Barack Hussein Obama and the hundreds of thousands more this administration is planning on bringing here, we will be besieged by those filthy sub-human spawn of satan hordes. The difference being we do have guns — but for how long until Barack Hussein Obama and the U.N. will try to take them from us is the question.

      • Lia

        I’ve had the USA on my prayer list for some time (I have two friends there), but you are right. At this point the entire Christian world should be praying for the USA as well,

        • bertie

          Prayers will not stop these animals.Bullets will.

          • DowntotheBone


          • Lia

            I really don’t believe payers can stop them but Almighty God, to Whom we pray, can.

          • Canadian Patriot

            Where, in the name of all that’s holy, are the MEN! We, the men, are the protectors by our very nature. It’s in our blood and bones. When the state fails in its most basic function, to protect its citizens, then citizens must organize and take on the task themselves. This is the task of the men. What has our culture done to the men?

          • NoMoreIslam

            Well said. Just what happened in Russia. The 53 scum attacked and groped Russian femails at the night club. Russian young men beat the crap out of the moslem scum. Then Police came and joined the fight. 31 of the scum mosShits ended up in hospital I am sorry to say. Should not be allowed in hospital. Not a place for scum

          • zipper

            The hospital staff should have made them sit in the waiting room until they either left, or bled-out.

          • jlv

            Hi No More,

            White People Commit the Most Heinous Crimes


            White people are the most arrested (Total of 8,946) for committed Rape in 2013 in US – FBI Report.


            White people are the most arrested (Total of 10,977) for committed Rape in 2014 in US – FBI Report.



            According to George Mason University, Worldwide Sexual Assault Statistics, 1 in 3 American women will be sexually abused during their lifetime. About 19.3% of women and 2% of men have been raped at least once in their lives. Additionally, an estimated 43.9% of women and 23.4% of men experienced other forms of sexual violence during their lifetimes. Many victims of sexual abuse were victimized at a young age, about 79% were first raped before age 25, and 40% before age 18. (usatoday).

            According to RAIIN, Every 107 seconds, someone in the United States is sexually assaulted. There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year. 68% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police. 98% of rapists will never spend a day in jail.

            Rape And Sexual Assault Among College-Age: An average (65,668+ & 2,866+) college-age women and men experienced a rape sexual assault annually. More than a quarter of college-age women report having experienced a rape or rape attempt since age 14. Out of all, only 16% of the total cases are reported. Females ages 18 to 24 had higher rates of rape and sexual


            Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted.

            Here’s the math. According to the U.S. Department of Justice’s National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS)–there is an average of 293,066 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year.

            There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year.

            So, 31,536,000 divided by 293,066 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 107 seconds.

            Ten Countries With Most Rape Cases in the World 2015


            The worst cases that has been filed in the world is a forced to women’s and insult them and harassed them . Last year its report cases raised . We should respect women in each field in business , in school , collage every where .

            Its afraid to say that India is one country who is leading in the rape cases there are thousands of cases that has been file.

          • Steve

            Stats all over the place and biased presentation.

          • sony_dc

            @disqus_wXeQQlRUD1:disqus – if you’re a Muslims and you’re here trying to convince us that Islam is a religion of peace, it won’t work! If you picked up the Qur’an and read it, you will know it instructed its followers to kill all non-Muslims and once the earth is only filled with Muslims, then there will be peace on earth. Until then, violence will continue from Muslims.

            If you want peace in your life, then follow the word of our Lord Savior, Jesus Christ. Its the only way to eternal life.

          • Mistergilgamesh

            And buy a gun with lots of ammo

          • jlv

            hi sony_dc,

            Thanks for not denying that White people are the most arrested (Total of 10,977) for committed Rape in 2014 in US – FBI Report and Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted.

            A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, “I am God” or where he says, “worship me”.

            (i) “My Father is greater than I.”

            [The Bible, John 14:28]

            (ii) “My Father is greater than all.”

            [The Bible, John 10:29]

            (iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”

            [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

            (iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….”

            [The Bible, Luke 11:20]

            (v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”

            [The Bible, John 5:30]

            “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”

            [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

            Deuteronomy 6:4

            “Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

            Matthew 19:16

            And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” 17And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.”…

            Clearly, to obtain eternal life, you must keep the commandments…

          • sony_dc

            @disqus_wXeQQlRUD1:disqus – I have no idea where you’re gathering your data and what source you’re pulling the numbers from, but if you’re in denial, that’s your problem. If your stats are accurate, then why does America have more blacks and hispanics in prison then whites? The discussion was around allowing savages like the Muslims in western countries because they don’t belong in western countries. They destroyed their own homelands and want to conquer and destroy all of the western world. Europe saw a disgusting year in 2015 by allowing these savages in their countries.

            Regarding Jesus, obviously you are not Christian, but either a Muslim or an Atheist, which then makes me wonder why are you on this site? The funny thing about Muslims, they always throw the question to Christian, “how can you have 3 Gods” (not understanding the trinity), “how can you follow Jesus and not God”… the questions they never ask themselves about their faith is, “why do you follow a murder, pedophile, rapist, and a killer”, or “why do you worship the moon god bowing to the black stone in mecca”. So, which is it? Are you a Muslim or an Atheist?

            My last 2 comments; 1) just because someone is “white” doesn’t mean they are a Christian, and 2) when Muslims are a minority (like in the states 3.3M), they are quite. But when they become a larger group (20% or larger of the population) – all hell will break loose. Just look at all the Muslims countries and what is happening in Europe.

            If America wants to save herself from evil, we must NOT allow Muslims in this country.

          • Really?

            One cannot deny that The Western countries helped destroy Muslim countries by invading them with stupid wars. Bush family is in with the New Worl Order. All part of the plan to destabilize the whole world.

          • sony_dc

            @really? I agree, the US should of never invaded Iraq. Or with Omama’s admin with overthrowing Libya’s leader (gaddafi)…

            But regarding Muslims and that region, we must review and study history and understand that once Islam was invented, it turned those countries into hell. Before the crusaders ever came to help the Christians and Jews, the Muslims were slaughtering and torturing them (Christians and Jews) for over 400 years.

          • jlv

            hi sony_dc,

            Thanks for not denying that White people are the most arrested (Total of 10,977) for committed Rape in 2014 in US – FBI Report

            Its very pity for American women being rape by mostly WHITE MAN once in less of every 2 minutes…

            Non Muslim countries are Ten Countries With Most Rape Cases in the World 2015 :

            1. India : Asian Continent : Total Cases Report “1, 64,630”:

            2. USA : America Continent : Total Cases Report “11,877,218” :

            3. Russia : European Continent : Total Cases Filled “2,952,370”

            Top 10 Countries In The World With Highest Rape Crime 2015

   › Top10

            Top 10 Countries With Highest Rape Crime 2015 The worst cases that has been filed in the world is a forced to women’s and insult them and harassed them .

            Bible : Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

            Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God

            The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.

            “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”

            [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

            “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”

            [The Bible, John 5:30]

            Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

            Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

            “And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

            And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”

            [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

            2. The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law

            Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

            “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

            “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

            “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

            [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]

            Position of Jesus (pbuh) in Islam:

            (i)Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).

            (ii) We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).

            (iii) We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.

            (iv) We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).

            (v) We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.

            (iv) We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.

            Islam protects women..that’s why women are the most converts to Islam..

            Under Islamic law every Raper to be sentence of death.

            It is also mention in the Bible : Deuteronomy 22:25-27 mentioned the punishment the Mosaic Law commanded for a man who raped a woman. The man was to be killed by stoning while the woman was considered innocent.

            Reasons Why Female Converts to Islam Have Increased in the West

            More and more Americas have converted to Islam, particularly women and I was curious to find out why.

            It appears that women are converting to Islam at such rapid rates that they outnumber men 4 to 1, reports a study on female converts to Islam titled “Women and Conversion to Islam: The American Women’s experience.”

            More importantly, many of these women are converting to a religion that many (especially the West) view as patriarchal and oppressive toward women.



            How 100,000 Britons have chosen to become Muslim… and average convert is 27-year-old white woman

            The survey, conducted by Kevin Brice from Swansea University, asked converts for their views on the negative aspects of British culture.

            They identified alcohol and drunkenness, a ‘lack of morality and sexual permissiveness’, and ‘unrestrained consumerism’.

            US also allows early marriage..


            US Minimum marriage Age :

            Massachusetts 12 years old.

            New Hampshire 13 years old.

            Over 350,000 babies are born to teenage mothers every year in the United States, and over 50,000 of these are second babies to teen mothers.[167]

            Over 4% of all underage girls in the UK were teenage mothers


            In India, 1.4 million married girls out of 59.2 million girls married in the age 10-14

            Islam forbids killing innocent people.

            According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the hereafter:

            …So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an 5: 32

            Islam condemns all type of terrorism include killing of thousands of innocents during US invasion in Afghanistan, killing of millions of innocents during US invasion in Iraq, killing of thousands of innocents in Palestine. killing of innocent in Syria by Russian cluster bomb.

          • sony_dc

            @jlv – And here we have it folks! jlv is a Muslim declaring that Muslims DON’T kill innocent people and Islam doesn’t allow it.

            Per jlv statement: “Islam forbids killing innocent people. According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the hereafter.”

            jlv – again, do you really think we “non-Muslims” are so stupid that what we see and read in the news is not what is really happening? How can you even write the words that “Islam forbids killing innocent people”? When you see and read everyday the killing and torturing of innocent Christians and Jews in the Middle East and all over the world, does your statement come to mind? What do you declare would qualify an “innocent person” to a Muslim? Would a non-Muslim be in that category? Or just Muslims? Because we all know and have been watching the news in horror how many innocent Christians (children, women, and men) have been slaughtered in the Middle East, all over Africa, and Asia and now this evil called Islam is coming to the shores of Europe and the US. We just read about a Muslim in Ohio killing a restaurant owner because he was an Arab Christian from Israel.

            Regarding raping, no other religion is as evil as Islam towards women and young girls. Do you think the evil that is committed towards women in Muslim countries against non-Muslim women are reported? Against innocent young girls is reported? What world do you live in to think Islam is a religion of peace? The religion, #1) is NOT a peaceful religion, #2) doesn’t respect women or any non-believers, #3) was created by the devil who’s messages were sent to Mohammad (an evil man who committed crimes against all who didn’t bow to him), and #4) you believe in the moon god hence the moon crescent as your symbol and the fact that Muslims don’t believe man landed on the moon.

            Regarding your stats above on white men raping, do you really think the US categories by religion? Please give me a break!

            For the record, Middle Easterns and North Africans consider themselves “whites”…

          • jlv

            Hi sony,

            Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America



            Once again, a gunman has killed people for political reasons. Once again, he is described in the mainstream media using words and phrases such as: deranged, mentally disturbed, homicidal, gunman, shooter, criminal, murderer, and lone wolf.

            Media has coverup most Christian Terrorist.

            Hitler killed 6 million Jews. The media never say Hitler Christian Terrorist.

            Mussolini killed millions of people. The media never say Hitler Christian Terrorist.


            NY Times: Right-Wing Terrorists kill more people in US than Muslim.

            On June 16th, two days before the mass shooting at Emanuel AME church, the NY Times ran a story on how right-wing terrorism is currently a greater threat within the US than attacks by radicalized Islamists.

            right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center.

            White Americans Are The Biggest Terror Threat In The United States

            Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists.

            White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.



            Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11

            Homegrown Terrorism

            In the United States since Sept. 11, terrorist attacks by antigovernment, racist and other nonjihadist extremists have killed nearly twice as many people as those by Islamic jihadists.

            Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.

            “Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,” said Dr. Kurzman, whose study is to be published by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Police Executive Research Forum.

            Here are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Equal ISIS


            6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores

            6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores

            Covering April 2009 to February 2015, the report (titled “The Age of the Wolf”) found that during that period, “more people have been killed in America by non-Islamic domestic terrorists than jihadists.”

            Christian terrorism is a bigger threat to U.S. freedom than Islamic extremism


            Friday afternoon, at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, Colorado, a gunman walked into the medical facility and opened fire. At least 11 people are injured, including reports of a police officer responding to the call being killed.

            Again, ISIS is enemy of Islam because they killed muslims especially the most respected person in muslims community such as Imams and Clerics.

            ISIS Leader ‘Al-Baghdadi’ Is A ‘Jewish Mossad Agent …


            Thanks for not denying that hundred of thousands has converts to Islam in peace.. The proof is none of the converts was forced to accept Islam..

            Islam – The Fastest Growing Religion in the World

            Islam – The Fastest Growing Religion in the World

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            “Islam is a missionary religion since 1400 years ago and many Muslim organisations and particularly university students’ Islamic societies have active outreach programmes designed to remove popular misconceptions about the faith.” Today the fastest growing religion in Western countries in Islam. Which muslims army was sent to force Westerners to accept Islam in such large numbers?

            Look back to history, The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia…and there were never any battles fought there! Islam is spread by Indonesian scholars in peaceful manner.

            In Malaysia, Islam was spread by Islamic traders hundreds of year ago in peacefully manner.

            Chinese Muslims have been in China for the last 1,400 years of continuous interaction with Chinese society in peaceful manner. “Islam expanded gradually across the maritime and inland silk routes from the 7th to the 10th centuries through trade and diplomatic exchanges.

            If we look at history (about 700 years ago) Muslims ruled a part of Europe as Spain was one of the largest Islamic societies of Europe. Queen Isabella and her husband Ferdinand are buried in Alhambra surrounded with the verses from the Holy Quran. It was revealed that Muslims conquered Spain within four years without any bloodshed or violence. At that time the Visigoths were very impressed by the Muslims and their peace, they happily accepted their invitation to Islam and also their rule. The history tells that Muslims translated Greek scripts, they introduced paper in Europe.

            Muslims were the first ones to perform surgeries over human bodies, which was then common in Europe few centuries later. Alchemy, Algebra and astronomy are all Muslim inventions along with farming, practicing laws and providing trade contracts. The first university of the world was founded by a Muslim woman Fatima al Fihri which still exists in Morocco and is known by University of Al Karaouine.

            Islam protects women..that’s why women are the most converts to Islam..

            It appears that women are converting to Islam at such rapid rates that they outnumber men 4 to 1, reports a study on female converts to Islam titled “Women and Conversion to Islam: The American Women’s experience.


            Reporting to Police (America Statistics)

            68% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police

            98% of rapists will never spend a day in jail

            Thanks for not denying that Non Muslim countries are Ten Countries With Most Rape Cases in the World 2015 :

            1. India : Asian Continent : Total Cases Report “1, 64,630”:

            2. USA : America Continent : Total Cases Report “11,877,218” :

            3. Russia : European Continent : Total Cases Filled “2,952,370”

            Top 10 Countries In The World With Highest Rape Crime 2015

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            Under Islamic law every Raper to be sentenced of death.

            It is also mention in the Bible : Deuteronomy 22:25-27 mentioned the punishment the Mosaic Law commanded for a man who raped a woman. The man was to be killed by stoning while the woman was considered innocent.

            Reasons Why Female Converts to Islam Have Increased in the West More and more Americas have converted to Islam, particularly women and I was curious to find out why.

            70,000 Converts to Islam every year in France – YouTube


          • V Tiffany Seidel

            Jlv got his talking points from the NY slimes, I mean times… Wherever muslims are the minority, they scream for minority rights, wherever muslims are the majority, there are No minority rights…

          • Really?

            There will never be peace with Muslims. They have been killing each other since forever. The Muslim religion was spawned by Satan himself. Mohammed was a Jin (devil).

          • Dr. Doomsday

            So, you’re sayin’ we should start a #WhiteLivesMatter group?


          • ninetyninepct

            Compared to the number of Muslims, white crimes are almost negligible.

          • Really?


          • ninetyninepct

            “Should not be allowed in hospital.” Allah will look after them.

          • zipper

            You heard the woman in the video ask basically the same question. Calais has a population of 75,000 and, as she said, the migrants number 18,000. The native pop. includes a goodly portion of women, seniors, and children. Most of these “refugees” that are reported are men between 16-45. Not a good situation, especially since the criminals always seem to be out in large gangs and looking for trouble. They are organized, the locals are not, and feel overwhelmed(as truly they are).

          • Canadian Patriot

            There is no reason for the people of Calais not to organize. If the Muslim savages can organize, so can the people of Calais. It is cowardly not to take defensive action. Even if most of the men would rather sit at home to watch TV and drink beer the citizens have a right to self defense. It appears that just as in WWII the French waited to be rescued, they wait again for someone else to look after them. I know Calais has good men but to let this happen without even trying…?

          • zipper

            Yes, I agree. But, like the woman said, they Did stage an organized protest and the police came after Them, while they do Nothing about the muslim savages. Something is Very wrong in Calais!
            I will tell you of my own, lesser, experience. Our county sheriff inexplicably hired the former head of CAIR, one Nezar Hamzee, as a deputy; unbelievable! We staged a protest right in front of the Sheriff’s HQ. We were not allowed on the property; had to stay on the sidewalk. On top of that, there were armed deputies between us and the building. Some protesters thought that they were there to protect us, as muslims have threatened violence at other protests. Most of us, however, knew that they were there because We were there. It was a peaceful demo. with no incidents, but it just goes to show how the police can be misused, as in Calais.

          • Really?

            Your sheriff is in on it with the New World Order. Face the fact and inform everyone you can.

          • zipper

            We sponsored a petition to recall the bastid, but they rigged the situation. We had to collect 100,000 signatures, physical signatures(no social media), in 3 weeks! Needless to say, we failed this impossible task.
            Politics is tied to the corrupt Legal System. It’s like getting unfairly nailed in traffic court for a bogus ticket. When you protest, they tell you that you can appeal the decision. Then you find out what’s involved in an appeal and drop the matter, because you’re not going to spend $1500(with no guarantee) to fight a $50 ticket.
            This was like the recall situation. They knew it wasn’t going to happen.

          • Mistergilgamesh

            Exactly. Where are the men? Where are the guns?

          • Piasecznik

            There is a reason. All citizens of Calais are registered and any even slightly unlawful activity perform by them could be and will be easily punished by law enforcement. In other hand those savages are anonymous and refuse registration.

          • Mistergilgamesh

            That is NO EXCUSE for not defending themselves with guns.

          • zipper

            Guns…..what guns?

          • Mistergilgamesh

            The ones the French liberal socialist pansies took, of course. We (the worlds remaining civilization) need TRUMP in 2016

          • kmartin173

            As soon as the men touch one of those animals they will be the ones who get arrested, that’s how a politically correct government works.

          • You still call totalitarian masochism “political correctness”.

          • ninetyninepct

            A culture of man buns and fairy glitter in beards. Pussies, all of them.

          • Really?

            This was planned by New World Order Globalists for decades. First they infiltrated the schools, universities, churches, government workers, police, judges and politicians, global corporations, big Pharma. It is truly Satanic in nature. They planned patiently and now it is all coming together. Main stream media taken over too including Internet, Google , Twitter and don’t forget Hollywood liberals. All in on it, consciously or unconsciously. Even the NFL is a tool. Look at the Super Bowl half time show. Beyoncé and her black panther terrorists tribute. Black Lives Matter movement. George Soros behind all of this.

          • Jennifer

            Bisphenol A (a pseudo-oestrogen) in the drinking water has not helped. I think too that men in the West have been conditioned not to offend. Their instinct to protect is still there, however. They just need to be given permission to be men.

          • Frank

            When I was a kid we used to fist fight each other and it was just part of growing up. Now a days the kids are put on drugs and or locked up labeled violent. We have pussified our young men not to fight back for fear of ruining their lives.

          • Jennifer

            What an interesting point. It is quite fascinating how extensive this neutralising of males is in Western nations. I wonder if it’s all part of creating docile populations that can easily be controlled.

          • Frank

            I truly think it is part of the game plan to make us less vigilant. The invaders are just walking into Europe right now going into peoples homes assaulting and raping them. They call the police and the police do nothing.

          • Jennifer

            I think you’re right. The general feeling for Western nations is complete vulnerability – perhaps so that we will welcome martial law to sort out the chaos and then be completely controlled!

          • NoMoreIslam


          • Spirited!

            I believe in a mixture of the two. Nothing wrong with praying you hit your mark.

        • joe1429

          Go Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


        • Lia

          See Canada’s withdrawn from the force opposing IS. But yes, I’ve added Canada. Thank you for reminding me.
          Re the USA election: I am probably being totally naive, but I am persuaded that Trump, Cruz, Rubio may make things work,as long as there are no Bushes, Clintons, Fiorina around. They’re toxic – appeasers of muslims/big money/international movements or all 3.

          • ninetyninepct

            Trump & Cruz would be a great combination with Hillary watching between her bars.

          • Lia

            Might very well be. Is Mr Rubio anywhere, in your opinion?

          • Really?

            Maybe we can add her rapist husband bill in prison too.

        • ninetyninepct

          He is starting Muslim military bases for God’s sake.

          • NO he is not .BUT the muslems have set up muslem only areas all across the country. Like the type in the USA

      • Steve

        Learn how to make your own weapons.

      • sony_dc

        @imakymama:disqus – that’s why we need a Republican in the White House. If this country elects another Democrat, we (Americans) are doomed!

        • Really?

          Does anyone else think the voting machines in the U.S. Are maybe already rigged? Look at Hillary and her “Super Delegates”!

      • RetiredNavyphotog

        Catholic Charities is one of the main offenders in bringing these migrants here.

    • Rod Dodger

      Prayers will not change the prophetic Script. God warned how Lucifer’s minions (Muhammad’s Muslims) would cover the nations like a cloud of locusts.
      It’s not just Europe that these locusts have landed – k!lling, stealing, raping and destroying.
      This is Muhamamnad’s (Lucifer’s) Islam; unleashed by the man named in honor of Lucifer – Barack HUSSEIN.

      • Lia

        I am aware of the prophecies, but also of the injunction to pray without ceasing. So I do the one thing I can.

      • movingwaters

        We can see the broad strokes of prophecy, and we can see God’s Word coming to pass very rapidly. But no human knows every detail of God’s plans. We are told to pray for each other, and we are told to pray for God’s mercy to be given even in the course of correction falling on cities and nations. So you are right in the prayer won’t change the prophetic word. But, if you have God’s heart for people you will be praying as continuously as possible for the rest of the time we are down here in human bodies.

        • Rod Dodger

          I pray for the few who are left to turn and follow the Truth.
          For most, that time has passed.
          Jesus is at the door.

          • movingwaters

            Following the news of the persecuted church daily, I sincerely hope that his coming is very, very soon. And I believe it is. The Luciferian “Progressives” have invested a lot of taxpayer money in destroying children’s minds and their innate capacity to understand that God wants his best for them. So I do pray for them just as you do.

        • Really?

          The evil ones may kill our bodies but they will never take our souls.

      • Aleteia

        I hope you do not suggest that Mohammedanism will win. Because Jesus will win and we should pray, fast and educate missionaries to return lukewarm Christians back to the real God. We will prevail! jesus defeated Satan.

        • Rod Dodger

          Satan “leads the whole world astray” as Muhammad’s (Lucifer’s) Allah. His one and only “prophet” was Muhammad – who calls himself “the bright morning star” – or “Lucifer” in Isaiah 14:12.
          Jesus wins. The last of his faithful Christians, God’s chosen Jews and all the children will be gathered up in the moment of the flash – man’s moment of madness.
          Islam or better-named “Luciferism” perishes – as does Atheism, catholicism, Mormonism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Episcopalianism, (likely) Lutheranism, Orthodox, Spritualism and all the rest of this world’s falsehoods.
          The New Jerusalem above stands forever. But this earth, Babylon, Satan’s kingdom – perishes.

          • kaffir geoff

            so all of the followers of thus perished religions will go to hell? What insanity. I do believe progressive new world order types and their foot soldiers being rabid muslims are the acolytes of luciferism. But saying that bhuddists will parish is beyond the constructs of any religion I would ever follow. It is no better than muslims claiming they know the “truth”.

          • Rod Dodger

            This is where Satan was cast to perish. This is hell. It just hasn’t been set ablaze yet. Thanks to the efforts of Barack and the six other kings (P5+1+Iran), the torch has not only been lit but it’s in the hands of Luciferians.
            Fire this way comes… And it comes out of Satan via his people.
            The Truth lies merely in the prophetic Word of God. And that Word is Christ Jesus. Literally cut out of the mountain of God, the Word was given to Moses as Law. And literally delivered in the flesh was the Word, cut out of the mountain of God, to serve as Grace.
            What He said would happen has happened.
            Fat Buddha is a carved image. It has nothing to say.
            Your understanding of “truth” is instinctive and takes zero effort to recognize.
            Our Creator is worth the effort of knowing Who and What He is.
            Satan was sent here for his rebellion and unfaithfulness to God. Those, like yourself, who could not care less, will stay here with the fallen one – long after man’s nuclear madness of an estimated 30,000 warheads fulfills the warnings of Ezekiel 28:18, Isaiah 29:5-6 and Rev 11:18 and 13:13.
            Truth is the warning (given by God’s 42 prophets and Apostles in 66 books and letters over a period of 1,400 years) of God – fulfilled by the acts of men.
            What He said has all come about – all but the nuclear madness. With an estimated 13 nuclear kings now ammassed in or above the valley of Armageddon, that nuclear madness is imminent.
            Only God’s elect survive Satan’s deceptions; among thise deceptions is Fat Buddha.

          • Ben Hur

            Kaffir, the Son of God paid the price for sin upon the cross. This is the central and most important theme of the entire Bible simply because of the fact that without this event the Human race is consigned to the judgement and wrath of God. The un-PC way of saying this is “you are going to hell unless you repent and believe in the death and Resurrection of Jesus.”. You are a sinner (you have either lied, hated, not honoured God, dis-respect parents e.t.c (thought adultery, adultery, broken 10 commandments). All of the above, you get the picture?

            The only way God can pardon anyone is through the sacrifice of his Son Jesus. If this sounds unfair to all the other religions, try telling Jesus that the cross agony was a waste of time. Good luck with that!

            It is very sobering that Islam, in contradiction to historical consensus denies that Jesus was even crucified. I wonder why? Could it be in opposition to God? If so who is its real engineer?

          • Pray Hard

            You’re still equivocating. You’re not ready. Keep at it.

          • NoMoreIslam

            Scientology? Cruis and Travolta not going to be too happy. The sex life’s of theirs will be exposed

          • Meenuspeenus

            Maybe they can go blow each other. Harharharrrr

        • jss

          Hi Aleteia,

          Jesus pbuh never claim divinity…He never say I am God or worship me..

          The Greatest Commandment

          2One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” 29Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD; 30AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.’…Mark 12:29

          God is not a man

          Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?

          Acts 2:22

          Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

          A ruler questioned Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 19And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. 20″You know the commandments, ‘DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.'”…Luke 18:19

          “I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. John 5:30

          “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all..John 10:29

          But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…Matthew12:28

          Dr. Zakir Naik’ great answer to christian.

          • Ben Hur

            Jesus said in John 8:58: “.., Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him ….”. The only legal reason why they could cast stones at him was for blasphemy (i.e. he claimed to be God or the I Am).

            This is backed up by the testimony of the Jews:
            John 10:33: The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

            In Revelation chapter 1 and 22, Jesus says he is the first and last (i.e. God). In Hebrews 1:6 it says “let all Gods angels worship him” and Hebrews 1:8: “But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.”
            John 1:1,14 says Jesus is God who dwelt among us.
            Isaiah 9:6 and Micah 5:2 demonstrate the divinity of Christ. e.t.c e.t.c

            So you see Dr. Naik is not correct. According to Jesus, the and the Jews he claimed to be God.

            God is not a fallen man that he should lie. God is a man who doesn’t lie.

            Islam denies the crucifixion of Jesus which is a historical fact. Islam is on the wrong side of history and calls Jesus a liar. Dr Naik does not believe in the Bible plain and simple.

          • jss

            Hi Ben Hur,

            Q&A Jesus:Before Abraham Was, I Am (John 8:58)


            Video embedded · Q&A Jesus:Before Abraham Was, I Am (John 8:58) – Sheikh Ahmed Deedat … (PBUH) – Dr Zakir Naik – Duration: 11:21. ask4gain 261,766 views. 11:21

            Matthew 10:5

            These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.…

            Prophet Jesus pbuh was only sent for the people of Jews at his period of time. He is the first and last at his period of time.

            Prophet Moses pbuh also sent only for the people of Jews at his period of time. He is the first and last at his period of time.

            A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, “I am God” or where he says, “worship me”.

            (i) “My Father is greater than I.”

            [The Bible, John 14:28]

            (ii) “My Father is greater than all.”

            [The Bible, John 10:29]

            (iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”

            [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

            (iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….”

            [The Bible, Luke 11:20]

            (v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”

            [The Bible, John 5:30]

            “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”

            [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

            Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

            “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is

            come, come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me”.

            Deuteronomy 6:4

            “Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!

            Matthew 19:16

            And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” 17And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.”…

            Clearly, to obtain eternal life, you must keep the commandments…

            Crucifixion or Crucifiction? by Dr Zakir Naik – YouTube


          • Ben Hur

            Deedat has some very obvious logical falicies here that are not hard to see. If everyone was there in Gods mind before Abraham was then Jesus saying this is completely pointless and meaningless. The Jews understood he was saying he was God and they should know a lot better than Deedat. They were also very legalistic and would not have stoned him for any thing else.
            Jesus said he was there before Abraham, not in Gods mind as Deedat has spun this out of his own assumption.

            Jesus also states he is the Son of God which the Jews also understood as being equal to God.
            John 5:18 : “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”

            History and logic are not on your side. Allah is also a pre-Islamic pagan deity, the hajj and ramadan are all pre-Islamic pagan practices. That Jesus is God is undeniable to anyone who takes the Bible at face value. Do some research.

          • jp

            Hi Ben,

            There are tons of Son of God in the Bible.

            1.Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: “Israel is my son, even my firstborn” Exodus 4:22.

            2.Solomon is God’s son “He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son”: 2 Samuel 7:13-14.

            3.Ephraim is God’s firstborn: “for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.” Jeremiah 31:9 (who is God’s firstborn? Israel or Ephraim?).

            4.Adam is the son of God “Adam, which was the son of God.” Luke 3:38.

            5.Common people (you and me) are the sons of God: “Ye are the children of the LORD your God” Deuteronomy 14:1. “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God” Romans 8:14. “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:” John 1:12. “That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;” Philippians 2:15. “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: … now are we the sons of God” 1 John 3:1-2. “When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” Job 38:7. “Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD,” Job 2:1. “Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD,” Job 1:6. “when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,” Genesis 6:4. “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair” Genesis 6:2

            Christian accepts Islam after challenging Zakir Naik at an Islamic Conference!


            “Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed that he is God” – Dr Zakir Naik


          • Ben Hur

            Why then can’t Muslims say that Jesus Christ is the Son of God? Are you saying Jesus is the Son of God?

          • jp

            Hi Ben Hur,

            Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: “Do not go in the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter any city of the Samaritans; 6but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

            Jesus pbuh only sent for Jews for certain period of time only, he is the first and last for certain period of time only.

            Moses pbuh only sent for Jews for certain period of time only, he is the first and last for certain period of time only.

            Prophet Adam never ask our permission before eat forbidden fruits heaven. As such, we are not to bear for his sin.

            Ezekiel 18:20

            20″The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself. 21″But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die.…

            Deut. 24:16- Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin. (From NIV Bible)

            Jeremiah 31:30- Instead, everyone will die for his own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—his own teeth will be set on edge. (From NIV Bible)

            Matthew 5:17-20- The Fulfillment of the Law

            17″Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. (From NIV Bible)

            Ahmed Deedat-100% proof Jesus was not Crucified !


          • Ben Hur

            Firstly, the discussion held here is about how many days Jesus was crucified for, not if he was crucified. There is a very simple explanation that solves this problem. Jesus was crucified on the Thursday. This is possible because Friday was also a Sabbath day. John 19:31 clearly tells us that this particular Sabbath was a High Day. In other words, it was not a weekly Saturday Sabbath, but was a special holiday Sabbath. Problem solved. Muslims are still at odds with the historical evidence that tells us Jesus was crucified. History and logic are not on your side.

            Moses is never called the first and last. The Jews had the day of atonement and the temple sacrifices to atone for the sins of the people. This is a biblical principle: Leviticus 16:30: it is on this day that atonement shall be made for you to cleanse you; you will be clean from all your sins before the LORD.…” It is significant that the temple sacrifices have not been seen in Israel since not too far after the death of Jesus. This is because God is now finished with the imperfect atonement which had to be repeated each year. Christ is the ‘lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world’. He said just before he died “it is finished’.

            Deuteronomy 24:16 would be referring to civil crimes where the punishment is death. For example if the father murders someone, the son shall not be executed instead of the father.

            Ezekiel 18:20 is stating that each person is responsible for their own sins before God.
            God Belss

          • jp

            Hi Ben Hur,

            Thanks for not denying that Jesus pbuh was taken down earlier and he was alive. Crucifixions required several days as for slow and painful death. As such he was not died for any body sins. Never in Bible he said he is to die for anybody sins.

            Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God

            The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.

            “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.”

            [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

            The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh) – to Fulfill the Law

            Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

            “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

            “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

            “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

            [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]

            Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

            Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

            “And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

            And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”

            [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]

            Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

            Jay Smith got destroyed by Dr.Shabir Ally on the Trinity and the Christian Concept of the Atonement


          • Ben Hur

            You said:”Never in Bible he said he is to die for anybody sins.”
            Answer: Matthew 26:28: ” For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
            John 1:29: “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.”

            Jesus is a prophet, priest and king. He is also the Son of God.

            If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments: Jesus’ answer to the man’s question was straightforward. If you want to gain eternal life by your doing, you must keep the commandments – all of them, and keep them in the fullest sense.
            i. “He would needs be saved by doing, Christ sets him that to do which no man living can do, and so shows him his error.” (Trapp)

            Keeping the law is therefore not the means of salvation.
            Galatians 3:24: “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.”
            The truth is no man has kept the law/commandments fully.

            Shelby said “God can just forgive us”. However why the need for animal sacrifices by Israel to forgive/atone for sins if he can ‘just forgive us”? Shelby is not being logical. The shedding of blood was required for the forgiveness of sin all through the old testament. It is also required now through Jesus Christ. The bible tells us this.

            Jesus is not the Son of God in the sense of a mortal man father/son relationship. Shelby makes this mistake. Death is a separation. When Jesus died, he didn’t cease to exist. He was separated from God because of the sin put upon him. He defeated sin and death by rising again.

            John 8:24:”I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

            John 20:28:”And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”

          • jp

            Hi Ben,

            John is the only gospel that portrays Jesus as “Lamb of God” but Jesus never applied the title for himself. Augustine developed the titles for the Roman Catholic Church; he also developed the “original sin”. The apostles never claimed Jesus was God-incarnate, let alone God’s lamb. There was a Jewish sect called the Ebionites who accepted Jesus as the Messiah, but they never said he was God’s son.

            Jesus denied sacrifice (Matt. 9:13, 12:7, Hosea 6:6) and preached the Law of Moses (Matt. 5:17-20) which contradicts Atonement (Deu. 24:16, Psalms 40:6, Micah 6:7-8). Christians believe the exact opposite of the Bible (Proverbs. 21:18).

            John the Baptist is forced to call Jesus the “Lamb of God” (John 1:29), but John was a strict Essene; he never could’ve used this pagan title! Jesus is called “Lamb of God” because he took away the sins of mankind, yet the title is false because Jesus was not crucified (Psalms 20:6) so therefore he was not the Lamb of God.

            All human beings are servants of God (1 Peter 2:16), so it’s blasphemy to worship Jesus. The Gospels record Jesus saying:

            ‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.’ (Matthew 15:8-10)

            “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? I will show you what he is like who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice. He is like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete.”. (Luke 6:47-49)

            “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ (Matthew 7:21-23)

            The Israelites used to sacrifice a lamb on the Day of Atonement, but Jesus was not a lamb. Jesus wasn’t even crucified! The Old Testament teaches that human sacrifice is wrong.

            And after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:30-31)

            Human sacrifice is a pagan ritual which dates back thousands of years. Jesus could not have been a ‘human sacrifice’ because the practice was not Jewish, but pagan. The Jews believed they’d crucified Jesus to prove he was false (Deu. 13:5, 21:23), yet God saved Jesus from the cross (Psalms 20:6).

            Blood sacrifice is the oldest and most universal act of piety. The offering of animals, including the human animal, dates back at least twenty thousand years, and, depending on how you read the scanty archaeological evidence, arguably back to the earliest appearance of humanity. Many religions recount the creation of man through the bloody sacrifice of a God-man–a divinity who is torn apart to sow the seeds of humanity. (Patrick Tierney, The Highest Altar: The Story of Human Sacrifice, Acharya’s Suns of God)

            “The worship of suffering gods was to be found on all sides, and the belief in the torture of the victims in the rites of human sacrifice for the redemption from sin was very general. The gods Osiris, Attis, Adonis, Dionysos, Herakles, Prometheus, and others, had all suffered for mankind; and thus the Servant of Yahweh was also conceived as having to be wounded for’ men’s transgressions. But as I say, this conception had passed into the background in the days of Jesus” (The Paganism in Our Christiantiy, Arthur Weigall, 1928, p106)

            Jesus was teaching his disciples in the outer court of the Temple and one of them said unto him: Master, it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin? And Jesus answered: No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, online Source)

            God hates human sacrifice:

            The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (Deuteronomy 24:16)

            The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. (Ezekiel 18:20)

            To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. (Isaiah 1:11)

            Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? (Micah 6:7-8)

            Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required. (Psalms 40:6)

            To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. (Proverbs 21:3)

            But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. (Matthew 9:13)

            God can easily forgive sins, we don’t need human sacrifices:

            “I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more. (Isaiah 43:25)

            The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love. (Psalms 103:8)

            And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness (Exodus 34:6)

            It’s pretty clear that Christianity contradicts the Bible, and the Bible refutes Christianity.

            Jesus said that he had come to uphold the law and not to destroy it one jot or one tithe. Jesus was educated in the synagogue in Jerusalem from the age of twelve. He preached in the synagogue. He used to keep the synagogue clean. No Christian today can be found performing these actions. How many Christians have been even been circumcised in the manner that Jesus was? The services now held in today’s churches were developed long after Jesus had disappeared. Many of them come directly from the pagan Graeco-Roman mythological rites. The prayers they use are not the prayers which Jesus made. The hymns they sing are not the praises which Jesus sung. Due to the innovations of Paul and his followers, there is no revealed teaching left as to what to eat and what not to eat. Anyone given a “Christian education” today eats what he feels like. Yet Jesus and his true followers only ate kosher meat and were forbidden to eat pig’s flesh”. (Jesus, Prophet of Islam, 1992 edition, p. 199-200)

            “…Christianity was not built on the Bible. Christianity began long before the Bible was written and developed independently of the Bible. Some of Christianity’s central doctrines are contrary to the Bible; herein lies the problem. (Shabir Ally, [1]

            If Jesus died for the “sins of the world” as the lamb, why did the apostles continue to sacrifice lambs?

            “…Also, note that some scholars such as Thomas McElwain consider the belief that Jesus has already paid the whole price for sin as a later belief, one unknown to any of the disciples of the first century. They argue that “the followers of Jesus Christ went on participating in the sacrificial system of the temple in Jerusalem until its destruction in AD 70” and “the apostolic church, for more than a generation after the ascension of Jesus, still offered the Old Testament sacrifices.” [1]

            The early Christians doubted Jesus was crucified, that’s why they continued to sacrifice lambs!

            Jesus is recorded to have said:

            No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazarenes, online Source)

            There are multiple accounts of Jesus’ crucifixion:

            “The Christians have dozens of different versions, rather than one universally agreed view, regarding the crucifixion of the Messiah. This in itself is an eloquent testimony that the Christians were doubtful about the actual event. Some of them held the view that the one who was crucified was someone other than Jesus and that Jesus himself in fact remained standing somewhere nearby, laughing at their folly… Had the truth been fully known and well-established so many divergent views could not have gained currency”. (Towards Understanding the Quran, Vol 2, Sayyid Abul Ala Mawdudi, p. 108)

            We have to believe God saved Jesus from crucifixion:

            Now I know that the LORD saves his anointed; he answers him from his holy heaven with the saving power of his right hand. (Psalms 20:6)

            “Do not touch my anointed ones; do my prophets no harm.” (1Chronicles 16:22)

            LORD God, do not reject your anointed one. Remember the great love promised to David your servant. (2Chronicles 6:42)

            Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore. (Psalms 18:5)

            The LORD [is] their strength, and he [is] the saving strength of his anointed.(Psalms 28:8)

            Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed.(Psalms 84:9)

            Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; (Hebrews 5:7)

            The Greek word ‘Christ’ means the ‘anointed’. Jesus was anointed, so therefore he was saved from crucifixion.

            Matthew 26:28 Contradiction

            Matthew 26:20-29, Mark 14:17-28, John 13:21-30 Jesus forecasts his betrayal prior to the communion portion of the supper.

            Luke 22:14-23 After the communion portion.

            It appears that Christ discussed it throughout the meal. In Luke 22:15 we see that He discusses his suffering first thing before the meal, during the cup before the meal (vs 17-18), during the bread (vs 19) and again during the cup after the supper (vs 20-22). The sop (John 13:26) was not communion in any sense, but merely a custom of the day that occurred after the meal was finished (John 13:2). Matthew and Mark record the interchange between Judas and Jesus DURING the meal. Some have marveled that the other disciples did not pick up on Christ’s statement and seemed oblivious later (John 13:22 and Luke 22:23). This bears tribute to how effective a hypocrite Judas was. Additionally, we note that there was a undercurrent conversation taking place in which the disciples were arguing over who was the greatest (Luke 22:24).

            Matthew 26:26-29, Mark 14:22-25 The order of the communion was: bread, then wine.

            Luke 22:17-20 It was: wine, then bread.

            It was the cup (Luke 22:17), then bread (vs 19), and then the after-supper cup (vs 20).

            Catholics believe that we have to be “cleansed of sin” (must do confession) before we eat the Eucharist, BUT when Jesus broke the bread during the last supper did he not give it to Judas? If you are dirty and you want to go for a shower, do you first clean yourself then go for a shower? Matthew 26:28 – This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the “forgiveness of sins”. Which I would interpret it as he died for us for the forgiveness of sin, therefore drinking the wine and eating the bread (Eucharist would be FOR the FORGIVENESS of sin wouldn’t it?)

            Here’s a thought: Did you learn Christianity from a true Christian or did you simply follow blindly? Matthew 7:24-27 “The Wise and Foolish Builders”

            You might have been a dedicated Christian but where did you build your house on? A Rock (I was taught that rock represented a good understanding of God’s words, or simply revelation of God) or on Sand?

            Please read this or if you remember it and ask yourself the following question.

            Matthew 16:17-20 “Peter’s Confession of Christ”

            The name Peter in Greek means rock but why was the latter translated as rock instead of peter? Was it to say that “on peter I will build my church?” or was it “on this revelation that I will build my church?”

            Isaiah 53 confirms that Jesus never got crucified!

            Lies upon Lies! Isaiah 53:8, below, its Hebrew says that Jesus will be thrown in jail. The ample liars of the English translations currently translate it as “he will …

            Islam declares that the Lord Jesus the Messiah (Al-Sayyed Isa Al-Maseeh in Arabic) was neither crucified nor killed. The points below are to further demonstrate that even the Bible’s accounts do not agree that Jesus Christ died.

            Then, I’d prove to them that the crucifixion never happened, and Jesus never died on the cross even according to the Bible Itself, even according to Isaiah 53 itself. Also, see how Psalm 91 (satan and Jesus had a detailed conversation about this one in the NT), and Psalm 116, 117 and 118 also declare that Christ will never get crucified.

            Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 declare that Jesus’ life will be EXTENDED! [1] [2]

            Jesus Christ, never got crucified, nor was he ever killed. The Noble Quran declares this. Also, many passages with ample evidence from the Bible’s Old and New Testaments, and also many more outside the Bible, clearly prove that:

            Jesus never died.

            He rested for 3 days in the cave, which was his so-called “tomb”, which was above the ground and was not a grave, nor a coffin. It was an open cave, and he rested on the floor in it. He was healed and massaged with medicine. And ultimately, he un-wound his winding sheets, and exited the cave in his original physical body alive. This is how he “ROSE” from the so-called “dead”. He never actually died. He’s always been physically alive and receiving massaging, and medical treatment, during those three days, according to the New Testament’s accounts itself. The problem with the Bible is that it LOOSELY uses words and terms such as God, Son, Rise from the Dead, Death, etc… The following debate explains all of this in great details from the Bible, and proves that Jesus never died:


            Yusuf Estes – Jesus in Islam

          • Ben Hur

            you said : “The apostles never claimed Jesus was God-incarnate”.
            John 1:1,14: “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
            “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son,”
            Matthew 16:16 “And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
            Hebrew 1:6: “And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.”
            v8 “But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.”

            Jesus didn’t forsake sacrifice. He was correcting people who sacrificed offerings to the Lord but did not have mercy. Sacrifice was still a part of the Law as revealed to Moses and is a never ending statute/principle. The Lord is telling his people that sacrifice is pointless if you are not living as God wants. However, sacrifice is still necessary.

            Leviticus 16:34: “And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses.”

            Psalms 49:8;”No man can by any means redeem his brother Or give to God a ransom for him– 8 For the redemption of his soul is costly, And he should cease trying forever-

            Isaiah 53:v8 explained: He was taken from prison and from judgment, and who will declare His generation? This not only refers to the confinement of the Messiah before His crucifixion, but it also speaks of the fact that the Messiah died childless. There was no one to declare His generation.

            He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand: The death, the burial, the offering of the Messiah does not end the story. He lives on! He lives to see His seed, His spiritual descendants. He shall prolong His days, and not be under the curse of death. And the life He lives after His death and burial is glorious; His life shall be lived prospering in the pleasure of the LORD.


            Isaiah 53 is a remarkable chapter that shows Jesus taking the sins of the people upon himself. It is a remarkable prophesy (like many in the Old T) that show Christ as God and or who died for our sins.

            Psalm 22: 16-18 “For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.”

            Peters name in Greek is petros (a pebble) Christ said but upon this rock (Petra – big rock/Christ) I will build my church. Upon Christ(Petra) will the church be built. Not on a little stone (peter).

            In all Gospels Christ was crucified. History proves Christ was crucified. Islam does not believe the bible or history. It has to be false. Islam is harsh to unbelievers but Jesus said to love our enemies. Allah is also a pre-Islamic pagan deity who had three daughters.

          • jp

            Hi Ben,

            does Jesus say: ‘I am God,’ or ‘I am equal to God,’ or ‘Worship me’?” I
            asked the Rev. Morris again.

            He took a
            deep breath and took another try. He quoted the most oft-repeated verse of the
            Christian Bible – John 1:1.

            the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was

            note, these are not the words of Jesus. They are the words of John (or whoever
            wrote them). Acknowledged by every erudite Christian scholar of the Bible as
            being the words of another Jew, Philo of Alexandria, who had written them even
            before John and Jesus were born. And Philo claimed no divine inspiration for
            them. No matter what mystical meaning that Philo had woven around these words
            (which our John has plagiarized), we will accept them for what they are worth.

            Greek not

            Since the
            manuscripts of the 27 Books of the New Testament are in Greek, a Christian sect
            has produced its own version and has even changed the name of this selection of
            27 Books to Christian Greek Scriptures ! I asked the Reverend whether he
            knew Greek? “Yes,” he said, He had studied Greek for 5 years before
            qualification. I asked him what was the Greek word for “God” the
            first time it occurs in the quotation “and the Word was With God”? He
            kept staring, but didn’t answer. So I said, the word was Hotheos, which
            literally means “The God”.

            Since the
            European (including the North American) has evolved a system of using capital
            letters to start a proper noun and small letters for common nouns, we would
            accept his giving a capital “G” for God; in other words Hotheos
            is rendered “the god” which in turn is rendered “God”.

            tell me, what is the Greek word for “God” in the second occurrence in
            your quotation – “and the Word was God”? The Reverend still kept
            silent. Not that he did not know Greek, or that he had lied, but he knew more
            than that; the game was up. I said : “the word was Tontheos,
            which means “a god”.

            to your own system of translating you aught to have spelt this word ‘God’ a
            second time with a small ‘g’ i.e. ‘god’, and not ‘God’ with a capital ‘G’; in
            other words Tontheos is rendered “a god”. Both of these,
            “god” or “a god” are correct.

            I told
            the Reverend: “But in 2 Corinthians 4:4 you have dishonestly reversed your
            system by using a small ‘g’ when spelling ‘God’ “(and the devil is) the
            god of this world.” The Greek word for “the god” is Hotheos
            the same as in John 1:1. “Why have you not been consistent in your
            translations ?” “If Paul was inspired to write hotheos the God
            for the Devil, why don’t you use that capital ‘G’?”

            And in
            the Old Testament, the Lord said unto Moses: “See, I have made thee a
            god to Pharoah” (Exodus 7:1). “Why do you use a small ‘g’ for
            ‘God’ when referring to Moses instead of a capital ‘G’ as you do for a mere
            word ‘Word’ – “and the Word was God.”?

            “Why do you do this? Why do you play fast and loose with the Word
            of God?” I asked the reverend. He said, “I didn’t do it.” I
            said, “I know, but I am talking about the vested interests of
            Christianity, who are hell-bent to deify Christ, by using capital letters
            here and small letters there, to deceive the unwary masses who think that every
            letter, every comma and full stop and the capital and small letters were
            dictated by God (Capital ‘G’ here!).”

            Jesus’ believers did NOT believe
            he was God neither

            Matthew Chapter 16 : 13 – 20.

            One of
            the greatest Christian myths is that Jesus’ followers believed he was God.
            However so, this is not true, the Bible says otherwise:

            Matthew Chapter 16: 13-14

            13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his
            disciples, saying, Whom
            do men say that I the Son of man am? 14
            And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and
            others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets

            So as we
            can see, the believers out of the population did not take Jesus as God, they
            took him for a great man, such as John the Baptist, or Elias, or some others.
            None of them said he is God. Now let us read on and see what his own disciples
            took him for:


            15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou
            art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus
            answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
            blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto
            thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the
            gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto
            thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth
            shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
            loosed in heaven. 20 Then charged he
            his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

            So note,
            now Jesus asks his disciples about what they take him to be for, they respond
            by saying he is the SON OF GOD, Jesus agrees with them and tells them tell no
            man I am the Christ. So note, Jesus’ disciples do not say you are God, Jesus
            himself does not say he is God.

            Now both
            the son of God and the term Christ do not mean God. They never have, and never
            will. The term Christ means Messiah, the definition of Messiah is not God, and
            the Jews who were awaiting their Messiah did not believe the Messiah would be

            On Hebrew
            1:6 :

            The word ‘begotten’ the
            Christian will rarely be able to explain. Begetting is an animal act
            belonging to the animal function of sex. ‘Begotten’ means

            How dare the Church attribute such a lowly function to God?

            “Death” in Isaiah 53:9 is proven to be symbolic using the Hebrew
            Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.

            Then, I’d prove to them that the crucifixion never
            happened, and Jesus never died on the cross even according to the Bible Itself,
            even according to Isaiah 53 itself.
            Also, see how Psalm
            91 (satan and Jesus had a detailed conversation
            about this one in the NT), and Psalm 116, 117 and 118 also declare that Christ will
            never get crucified.

            Psalm 116, 117 and 118:

            It is first of all important to know that the Psalms of David, while they
            are narrated by him, but they do contain many prophecies about the coming of
            Jesus Christ or the Messiah. The New Testament had made many references
            to many of the Psalms verses and linked them to Jesus Christ. Also, we’ve
            already seen how Psalm
            91 clearly and indisputably prophesied about Christ will never get crucified,
            and we’ve seen how the New Testament referenced this Psalm. It is very
            important that you pay close attention to Psalm 91:3, 8, 10, 11, 12 and 15
            below. These verses speak about:

            Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15)
            and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

            Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm

            will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

            will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

            harm (this includes crucifixion!) or
            disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm
            91:10….this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

            Almighty will send down the Angels to
            protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12,
            14, Isaiah 52:13). Not
            even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing,
            grappling and punishment.

            Christ’s call will be HEARD, and he will
            be delivered and honored (Psalm
            91:15, Isaiah 52:13). No way would these verses be valid
            if Christ got crucified.

            His life
            will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16, which by the way
            contradict Jesus never got married and had children. In Islam’s Noble Quran’s 13:38,
            however, it is quite possible that Jesus
            Christ had wives and children).

            life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12).

            “Death” in Isaiah 53:9
            is proven to be symbolic using the
            Hebrew Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.

          • Ben Hur

            Before Abraham was, I Am: this is the third time in this chapter Jesus uses the phrase I Am (John 8:24, 8:28), and here in John 8:58.

            i. I Am: The ancient Greek phrase is ego emi, which is the same term used in the Greek translation of the Old Testament in Jesus’ day to describe the Voice from the burning bush.

            ii. In using the phrase I Am (John 8:24, 8:58, 13:19) Jesus used a clear divine title belonging to Yahweh alone (Exodus 3:13-14, Deuteronomy 32:39, Isaiah 43:10) and was interpreted as such by Jesus’ listeners (John 8:58-59).

            iii. “The phrase harbours within itself the most authentic, the most audacious, and the most profound affirmation by Jesus of who He was. ” (Stauffer)

            f. The best proof what Jesus meant by claiming to be the I Am is found by seeing the response of His listeners: They took up stones to throw at Him. They wanted to stone Him for blasphemy, for claiming to be God.

            In Revelation I have already shown that Jesus called himself the First and the Last which is also a term God uses for himself.

            Isaiah 43:10 “Also “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.””

            This statement puts John 1:1 in context. Jesus cannot be ‘a god ‘or a ‘god’ because this is ruled out by Isaiah 43:10.
            There are many notable scholars that can show that Jesus is God from this text. The literal translation from the original Greek is “and God was the Word” not “the word was God”. The literal translation, together with biblical context shows the fallacy of your argument.

            Psalm 91 is primarily talking about the promises of God to a believer, one who puts his trust in him. It is not exclusive to Christ.

            Begotten has a metaphorical as well as literal application. This is obvious because Christian don’t believe Christ was born by literal copulation.

          • joss

            Hi Ben,

            Jesus here was abruptly interrupted by the Jews who got fed up from him. See the next verse below. They thought that he was insulting their intelligence and their cherished faith by talking blasphemous garbage (such as Abraham rejoiced for him (John 8:56) and other things). It is clear that Jesus was most likely interrupted and wasn’t heard finishing up his sentence. Also, the context of Jesus’ words were about seeing Abraham before he was even born. This is nothing new in the Bible. In the Old Testament, we read:

            “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 1:5)”

            Since Jesus was created from the Word of GOD Almighty, and since also our human-spirits are also created from the Holy Spirit, and since Jesus was a Word from the Word of Allah Almighty, then it is quite possible for him to have known, or seen the records of the future human-creations that were going to be created on earth, such as Abraham and others. After all, Allah Almighty uses Angels, Spirits and other created Beings of His to create creations under His Command. Things in the spiritual realm are different. Existence in the spiritual world, including our spirits, is Eternal. Our earthly bodies are not Eternal. So, Jesus having a prior knowledge about Abraham’s spirit is nothing unusual in the spiritual world.

            Abraham here was used by Jesus because the Jews used him as their highest and greatest Prophet against Jesus. So it wasn’t Jesus who brought up Abraham. It was the Jews. Otherwise, Jesus would not have mentioned Abraham or any earthly creation. See verse 33 above.

            Also, Jesus is the foretold Messiah, the anointed/selected final and greatest Prophet for the Jews, who will come and establish peace on earth and rule the earth in the end. The Old Testament makes it clear that the Messiah will inherit and rule the earth [1] [2]. See the sub-section below for more details.

            However, we must always never forget that the text of the Bible is neither genuine nor original. The Bible’s books and gospels, according to its own translators and theologians [2] [3], were

            Written by mysterious men.

            Written by an unknown number of men.

            Written in unknown places.

            Written in unknown dates.

            Furthermore, if Jesus declared to be the Yahweh Almighty (I am What I am) in Exodus 3, then he would not have hid himself and slipped away! Use your heads, O Christians, and think about this:

            1- Examine what Yahweh Almighty did when He Declared Himself to be “I am What I am”. What did He do? He Revealed His Majesty, Glory and Power! I could only imagine Moses could hardly stand on his feet from the overwhelming fear that he experienced!

            2- Jesus, when he supposedly declared The Ultimate and Final Statement about himself being the “I am”, what did he do? He hid himself and ran away from the beating. This is what he did after he willingly decided to declare his Ultimate and Final Statement about his being and supposed deity. Do you still fail to see the overwhelming inconsistency here?

            3- Jesus’ supposed statement, “I am”, was documented on paper in Greek. Yahweh Almighty’s Statement in Exodus 3 was in Hebrew. The two languages are not only far too different from each others, but the two statements are also not the same.

            “I am” is not the same as “I am What I am”.

            Ample more indisputable proofs and points on this are presented below. Also, the Greek main-section below has tons of indisputable proofs as well.

            59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

            There are few important notes to mention here:

            1- In verse 29, Jesus says that he only does what pleases GOD Almighty.

            2- In verses 33, 39, 53 and 57, the Jews declare that they are the descendants of Abraham.

            3- In verse 37, Jesus confirms that they are Abraham’s descendants.

            4- In verse 57, the Jews say that Jesus never saw Abraham.

            5- (Ample proofs from the Greek language, below, are provided for this one) In verse 58, Jesus DID NOT SAY “I AM”. He rather said, “I HAVE (seen Abraham before he was even born)”. The following analysis give further proofs for this:

            The context of Jesus’ statement is clearly about whether or not he saw Abraham.

            When GOD Almighty revealed Himself to Moses in Exodus 3, and told him “I am what I am”, He, the Almighty, revealed with it His Majesty and Glory. Jesus, when said “I have”, he ran from the rocks that were hurled at him from the angry crowd.

            GOD Almighty in Exodus 3 Spoke to Moses in Hebrew, while Jesus in John 8:58, spoke it in Aramaic, and the original Aramaic is lost. All what he have today is a Greek translation for the original.

            The “I AM” in John 8:58 is a desperate mistranslation, because even if we take it to be right, it still doesn’t say “I am what I am”.

            If Jesus truly wanted to say “I AM” in reference to Exodus 3, then he should’ve said before Adam or humanity I AM WHAT I AM; not Abraham.

            6- It is also highly probable that Jesus was interrupted by the Jews picking up rocks and hurling them at him, hence, he was only recorded to have said “I HAVE” because he wasn’t able to finish his sentence.

            This point, while it may sound very lame and weak, but in reality is quite possible and sound!

            Who is the Alpha and Omega?

            It is not clear whether Jesus was called the Alpha and Omega. A Christian research found that there are deliberate mistranslations put [2]. But my answer below assumes that Jesus was called the Alpha and Omega. Even with this worst case scenario, we clearly see that Jesus is still NOT the Creator of the Universe!

            So having said that, let’s see now Jesus as the Alpha and Omega:

            Jesus is the Alpha and Omega (beginning and end) of the entire Jewish Covenant and Law, and is focused on the 12 tribes of Israel. See Revelations 1:8, 21:6, and 22:12.

            In Revelation 22, we read:

            Revelation 22 (NIV)

            Eden Restored

            1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

            12 Thrones for the Disciples:

            Jesus also promised his disciples 12 thrones in Heaven to judge the 12 tribes of Israel:

            Will Judas or Matthias sit at the Throne? Is Gambling allowed in Christianity? Why were the disciples disputing on the 12th disciple if the Holy Spirit was the One who chose him?

            Matthew 19

            28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [1] [2]

            Jesus’ Mansion:

            This also perfectly fits Jesus’ statement about the Mansion that Jesus will setup for his followers from among Heaven’s “many Mansions” (John 14:1-4) as the Bible says.

            Jesus Christ said that Heaven has many Mansions, and that his Mansion is for him and his followers.

            Scripture – Not red letter words from Jesus, but John’s words in John 1:1-3 (NIV).

            In Matthew 24:36, Jesus Christ denied having any knowledge of when Judgment Day will come. He said: I don’t know; only GOD Alone Knows!

            1- Prophet Jesus (Isa), peace be upon him, like Adam, peace be upon him, was created from the Word of GOD Almighty.

            2- Jesus was not the entire Word of GOD Almighty. He rather was a Word from the Word; meaning that he was created from the Word of GOD Almighty.

            GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus.

            No one is “Good”, including Jesus. Only GOD Almighty is Good.

            Jesus said he doesn’t know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Almighty Knows.

            Jesus said that OUR God is One GOD.

            Jesus also said “My GOD and your GOD”.

            Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty.

            Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days and 40 nights, while GOD Almighty “can not be tempted!”.

            Jesus is only the heir of GOD Almighty on planet earth; not on the entire Universe.

            And on and on and on from quotes of Jesus that prove that he is only a Creation and a Servant of GOD Almighty.

            Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

            No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10….this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

            GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

            Christ’s call will be HEARD, and he will be delivered and honored (Psalm 91:15, Isaiah 52:13). No way would these verses be valid if Christ got crucified.

            His life will be prolonged (extended) and he will live to even see his offspring (Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16, which by the way contradict Jesus never got married and had children. In Islam’s Noble Quran’s 13:38, however, it is quite possible that Jesus Christ had wives and children).

            His life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12).

            “Death” in Isaiah 53:9 is proven to be symbolic using the Hebrew Lexicon and several English translations, and it never meant a literal death.

            The word ‘begotten’ has been thrown out of the Bible:

            The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication. The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co-operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration. Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles. The priests in their sermons continue to use this blasphemous verse and indoctrinate the masses with false teachings. So if you are still using this blasphemous word, please stop using it because it does NOT exist in the original manuscripts of the Bible and has been thrown out of the Bible.

          • Ben Hur

            Hi Joss,
            John 10:33 sheds further light on this issue:
            “The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.” The Jews understood he was claiming to be God. Your assertion the stoning was for something else is proved wrong by this testimony.

            The Jews also had an understanding of the Son of God being equal with God. John 5:18: “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”

            The mission of Jesus at that time was to save the world. There will come a time when he will judge the world. The bible explains that his time was not yet and that the Son of man must be crucified e.t.c. He could hardly do that if he showed all his power and everyone was flattened by his presence.
            John 8:24: “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (he), ye shall die in your sins.”

            Psalm 91 is about a believer, not specifically Christ. Psalm 22, Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9:26 are examples that show the messiah must suffer. Daniel 9:26: “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off…..”.

            Psalm 45:6,7 “Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.
            Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

            Micah 5:2: “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.”

            Isaiah 9:6: “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

            I guess at the end of the day we all have to make a choice about what is the most likely message of the bible. I’ve made my decision. The nails in Islams coffin are the denial of the crucifixion of Christ (historically inaccurate position), and his atoning sacrifice in contradiction to the NT. I would believe Peter, Paul and the apostles any day than the writings of a 7th Century figure. The Quran affirms the Gospel as accurate surah 5:47 thus the quran contradicts itself! “And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.”

            There is so much wrong with Islam. Just do a net search!
            I pray you find peace in Gods appointed sacrifice for your sins.

          • jp

            Hi Ben,

            John 10:30, I and My Father are One?

            Often when debates come up with Christians on the divinity of Christ, the passage from chapter ten in the book of John comes up; this passage is verse 30, which basically reads:

            30 I and my Father are one

            Now I don’t understand why many Christians would quote this verse, specifically Trinitarians, because what does this verse prove? Trinitarians do not believe Jesus is the Father, so why do they quote it? Are they quoting it to try and show that Jesus is equal to the Father? Well that isn’t true, since the Gospel of John shows the opposite, in fact if we quote one verse back we read:

            29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

            This is verse 29, it comes right before verse 30, and in verse 29 Jesus says the Father is greater than ALL, this obviously includes Jesus since he is not the Father. So therefore how to Christians try and assume that this verse shows equality between Jesus and the Father is beyond me, just a verse before it Jesus says the Father is greater than everyone!

            In fact this is not the first time that Jesus says the Father is greater than him, he does it again later:

            28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28)

            So here we once again have Jesus claiming the Father is greater than him, so how is Jesus equal to the Father when Jesus says the contrary? Now Christians have come up with a way of trying to explain this verse off, they say that Jesus was talking as a man here, that as a man the Father is greater than him, they try and say that the Father meant he is greater than Jesus in rank and authority and not in essence.

            However so what did Jesus mean in John 10 when Jesus said the Father is greater than ALL? Jesus placed himself in the category of ALL people, so therefore the Christian response will not work for John 10:29. It must be said though that the Christian response does not work for John chapter 14:28 neither, because the Christian argues from silence and is arguing something they have yet to prove. Christians cannot prove that Jesus has 2 natures, they can never get a single quote from the lips of Jesus saying I am man and Divine, that I have 2 natures and I gave one up and took on the man nature, this is non-existent, so therefore the response is from silence provided with no proof or a solid basis.

            1-The fact is the Bible shows that the Father is greater than Jesus in essence, the Father is all-knowing and Jesus is not.

            2-The Father gives Jesus everything from miracle to doctrine.

            3-Jesus begs the Father to save him, obviously showing that life and death is controlled by the Father and NOT Jesus.

            For all these arguments the Christian will say as man Jesus is not all-knowing, as man Jesus receives things from the Father, however so I will kindly ask the Christian bring this proof from the words of Jesus, they shall never be able to do it, this doctrine is an invention and not something to be found from Jesus.

            So therefore in conclusion, John 10:30 proves nothing in support of the divinity of Jesus, it does not show equality, since Jesus made it clear that the Father is greater than him, so therefore Jesus is not equal with the Father.

            Actually, correction, in the Biblical culture being called the Son of God does not make you equal with God since others were called sons of God and children of God in the Biblical times.

            Secondly, Jesus calling God his Father, or own Father does not mean much. What Matt Slick and every other Christian forgets to mention is that Jesus called God the Father of his people to, so when Jesus reffered to God as my Father he was doing this when he was adressing himself, it is common self if you are adressing yourself you will say my Father, or my house etc. When Jesus adressed other people he calls God their Father:

            Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

            Mat 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

            Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

            Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

            Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

            Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

            Mar 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

            Mar 11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

            Luk 6:36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

            So as you can see, when Jesus adressed other people he would call God their Father as well. So hence if one of those people were alone, they could adress God as their Father and say MY Father in Heaven. Would that mean that the people are equal with God? Certainly not!

            Jesus also said: “These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: ‘Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.’ (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 10:5-6)”

            These are the words of Jesus in the Bible. It is quite obvious that Jesus was NOT sent to Mankind and Christianity isn’t a religion for Mankind. Even if Jesus did die on the cross for people’s sins, he didn’t do it for all nations’ sins, but for the Jews alone who believed in him.

            And when Jesus told his disciples to go “to all nations” and teach them the words and baptize them in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit (Mathew 28:18-20), it is obvious that “all nations” is a mistranslation, because in the Middle East, the words for “People” and “Nation” are the same word.

            Very Important Note: It is important to know also that nations as we know them today in countries were very few back 2000 years ago. People for the most part were divided into either “tribes” or “empires”; like the Persian and Roman Empires for instance, which both spread in land as far as what we call today North Africa, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan and India. Nations as we know them today existed in few places only. Arabs for instance weren’t called “The Arab Nation”, because they were divided into 365 pagan tribes, each tribe worshiping their idol god(s) which were different than the others.

            So if Jesus told his disciples to go to “all people”, then this simply means to all of the people of Israel, because he “was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel”, and NOT to anyone else, because THERE WERE ALMOST NO NATIONS AROUND HIM AND VERY FEW NATIONS WORLD-WIDE! We are clearly left with a crystal clear contradiction between the Christian Missionaries of today and what Jesus said.

            And as we clearly see from the introduction above, the Bible was very badly corrupted by the Jews. GOD said they corrupted the Bible so bad that they turned it into a “lie!”.

            As for Jesus saying I AM, this does not prove he is God.

            So Jesus said to them, ‘When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me.’” John 8:28

            Those words basically prove that without a doubt Jesus is not God. Why would Jesus make such a statement after making a claim that he is God? You believe Jesus saying I AM makes him God, if so then why would he say such a statement right after saying I AM? The fact is Jesus said those words to show he is a prophet and that he is not God and the fact that he says I AM means nothing special it is just the desire of Christians to make it seem as if Jesus is claiming to be God when he is claiming something totally opposite.

            Matthew 2:26 takes Micah 5:2 out of context.

            Matthew 2:6 ” ‘But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.

            Micah 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans [a] of Judah out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel,

            whose origins [b] are from of old, from ancient times. [c] ”

            Matthew 2:6 says that Bethlehem is not least among the rulers of Judah while Micah 5:2 says otherwise.

            To further disprove that it is not Jesus which Matthew 2:6 thinks Micah 5:2 is talking about, look at verses 5-6.

            5 And he will be their peace.

            Deliverance and Destruction

            When the Assyrian invades our land and marches through our fortress we will raise against him seven shepherd even eight leaders of men.

            6 They will rule [d] the land of Assyria with the sword, the land of Nimrod with drawn sword. He will deliver us from the Assyrian when he invades our land and marches into our borders.

            When did Jesus do all this? Clearly, Matthew took Micah 5:2 out of context.

            Christian theologians argue that the name “A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the ruler of peace” refers to Jesus, who they allege combined human and divine qualities. They mistakenly believe that such a name can only be applied to God Himself. Moreover, the Christians incorrectly translate the verbs in verse 5 in the future tense, instead of the past, as the Hebrew original reads. Thus, the Christians render verse 5 as: “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on his shoulders; and his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.”

            While admitting that “wonderful counselor” and “ruler of peace” can be applied to a man, Christian theologians argue that the phrases “mighty God” and “everlasting Father” cannot be incorporated as part of a man’s name. Thus, they contend that Isaiah teaches that the Messiah has to be not only a man, but God as well. That this entire reasoning is incorrect may be seen from the name Elihu, “My God is He,” which refers to an ordinary human being (Job 32:1, 1 Samuel 1:l, 1 Chronicles 12:21, 26:7, 27:18). A similar Christian misunderstanding of Scripture may be seen in their claims revolving around the name Immanuel, “God is with us.” The simple fact is that it is quite common in the Bible for human beings to be given names that have the purpose of declaring or reflecting a particular attribute of God, e.g., Eliab, Eliada, Elzaphan, Eliakim, Elisha, Eleazar, Tavel, Gedaliah.

            The fact remains that Jesus did not literally or figuratively fulfill any of Isaiah’s words. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28). Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace.

            I pray to the Almighty God all the time that you will follow the Greatest Commandment : Worship only one Almighty God without any partners.

            Mark 12:29

            29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”

            Deuteronomy 6:4

            4″Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! 5″You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.…

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          • Ben Hur

            The essence of what Jesus said can be debated and analysed however the plain fact is the Jews thought Jesus was saying he is God. If you honestly take this into consideration your position is surely fragile at best.

            My Father is greater than I: The Father is greater than the Son in position (particularly regarding the incarnation), not in essence or being. If Jesus were not God in essence, it would be absurd for Him to compare Himself to God in position. In what sense is it any kind of revelation for a mere man, or even an angel, to say, “God is greater than I”?

            John 3:16 says ‘whosoever believes on him….’ Christianity is not exclusive to the Jews. Jesus command to not go to the gentiles was not forever. He was strategically dealing with people in his order.

            Do not go into the way of the Gentiles: This is the pattern of the gospel – it is for the Jew first and also for the Greek (Romans 1:16). Later, the gospel would go to both the Samaritans and the Gentiles, but it had to begin with the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

            But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel: God’s intention was to reach the whole world, but beginning with Israel. There was certainly enough work to do among the lost sheep of the house of Israel to keep the twelve busy until God directly commanded them to expand their ministry.


            I probably have more distain for the Roman Church than you do so I expect the pope to say ridiculous things.

          • jp

            Hi Ben,

            Jesus Christ is not God Almighty ! Proofs from Bible


            Throughout the NT of the Bible, Jesus (pbuh) referred to himself as “son of man” (human being). He never possessed the knowledge, nor any Divine ability that of GOD. Jesus (pbuh) was never self-sufficient or all-knowledgeable and most importantly he prayed to GOD, so this is enough to say that he wasn’t God nor did God come down to earth to be Jesus. The one thing Most Christians don’t understand about God is that His Divine Nature, Knowledge, Abilities, and Attributes are far more superior to the nature of His Creation. Many Christians will proudly say that GOD can become whatever He wants just to justify their way of thinking, but this ideology contradicts His Nature and Self proclaimed statement in Numbers 23:19 about how He is not a man, nor the “son of man”! If GOD Himself says He is not the “son of man” while Jesus (pbuh) clearly claims to be the “son of man”, then this proves beyond a resonable doubt that they’re not the same diety so who gives anyone the authority or right to change GOD’s Nature? GOD cannot be the opposite of what He is!I sincerely hope with this proof Christians will apply this understanding with an open mind and heart that at no time GOD ever became a powerless man on earth and forfeited His Divne Nature for 33 years while no diety governed the World…it’s that simple!


            “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son (Servant), but the Father (God).” [Mark 13:32]


            Jesus (pbuh) said, “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” [John 5:30]

            Another translation of the same verse:

            Jesus (pbuh) said, “By myself I can do NOTHING; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.” [John 5:30]

            Jesus (pbuh) said, “The Father is greater than I.” [John 14:28]

            Jesus (pbuh) said, “The father is greater than all.” [John 10:29]

            “Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” [John 7:16]

            “Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater (meizon) than his master, nor is one who is sent greater (meizon) than the one who sent him.” [John 13:16]


            Jesus (pbuh) said; “No one has seen God at any time.” [John 1:18]

            Jesus (pbuh) said; “Not that any man hath seen the Father.” [John 6:46]

            “No vision can grasp Him, but He grasps all vision. He is Al-Latîf (the Most Subtle and Courteous), Well-Acquainted with all things.” [Qur’an 6:103]

            “GOD continued, “But you may not see my face. No one can see me and live.” [Exodus 33:20]

            “The invisible God.” [Colossians 1:15]

            “Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.” [1 Timothy 1:17]

            Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” [1 Timothy 6:16]


            Jesus (pbuh) said; “Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve.” [Matthew 20:28]

            “Behold my servant (Jesus), whom I have chosen.” [Matthew 12:18]

            “The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, hath glorified his servant Jesus.” [Acts 3:13 RSV]

            “For of a truth against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou hast anointed.” [Acts 4:27 RSV]


            • Jesus prayed for guidance in places of quiet solitude – “Very early in the morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house and went off to a solitary place, where he prayed.” [Mark 1:35]

            “But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed.” [Luke 5:16]

            • Jesus prayed for His disciples and for all believers -“Holy Father (GOD), protect them by the power of your name-the name you have shown me-so that they may be one as we are one” [John 17:11].

            • Jesus prayed in praise to God, the Father – “At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, ‘I praise you, Father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.’” [Luke 10:21]

            • Jesus prayed in a posture and with an attitude of reverent submission – “Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will’” [Matthew 26:39]

            • Jesus prayed in times of anguish – “And being in anguish, he prayed more earnestly, and his sweat was like drops of blood falling to the ground.” [Luke 22:44]


            “Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” [John 20:17]

            “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ…” [1 Peter 1:3]

            “At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, ‘I praise you, Father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure.’” [Luke 10:21]

            Jesus (pbuh) said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know You the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.” [John 17:3]

            “Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.” [John 7:16]


            “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” [Numbers 23:19]

            “Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet [thee as] a man.” [Isaiah 47:3]

            Jesus (pbuh) is The “Son of Man” (a Human Being). There is not one Bible verse, Old or New Testament, that states that God Almighty, the Most High, is a man, ever desired to be a man, or intended to become a man ! In fact, he said the exact opposite. “God is not a man”. Jesus is called “son of man” 84 times in the Gospels. God called Ezekiel “son of man” 90 times in the book of Ezekiel. Whatever Ezekiel was, as to manhood, Jesus was also.

            “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know.” [Acts 2:22]

            “Say (O Muhammad) He is Allah the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone.” [Qur’an 112]


            “The woman said to Him (Jesus), “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.” [John 4:19]

            “So they said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.” [John 9:17]

            “And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.” [Matthew 21:11]

            “Then fear came upon all, and they glorified God, saying, “A great prophet has risen up among us”; and, “God has visited His people.” [Luke 7:16]

            The mission of Jesus was confined to the Israelites alone. It is unfair to think that his teachings are for all mankind or that they are practicable in this age. Jesus expressly stated:

            “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel”. (Matthew 15:24)

            It may be said that he asked his disciples to teach all nations:

            “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost”. (Matthew 28:19)

            The repeated injunctions of Jesus, however, manifestly oppose this view. In the light of such unequivocal teachings of Jesus as in Matthew 15:24, one may safely assert that the words “teach all nations” are either mistranslated or misinterpreted. They might perhaps mean that the disciples of Jesus should go to all the tribes of Israelites. The word “nation” may readily be taken as an equivalent of “tribe” in view of the testimony which the Bible itself provides.

            For exalllple, the following verses show that the mission of the disciples of Jesus was restricted to the tribes of Israelites:

            “Verily I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel”. (Matthew 19:28)

            Jesus emphatically said, while clarifying his mission to the Israelites:

            “It is not meet to take the children’s bread and cast it to dogs”. (Matthew 15:26)

            At another place Jesus instructed his disciples to avoid the Gentiles:

            “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, ‘Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’ “. (Matthew 10:5-6)

            The apostles by their actions, showed that the message of Jesus was meant for and confined to the Jews only.

            “Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen, travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only”. (Acts 11:19)

            The apostles were disturbed and annoyed when they learned that Peter, on one occasion, had preached to non-Israelites. “And when Peter was come to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him, saying, Thou wentest into men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them”. (Acts 11:2-3)

            Thus, the express injunctions of Jesus make it obvious that he was concerned only with Israelites.

            The word ‘begotten’ has been thrown out of the Bible:

            The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication. The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co-operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration. Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles. The priests in their sermons continue to use this blasphemous verse and indoctrinate the masses with false teachings. So if you are still using this blasphemous word, please stop using it because it does NOT exist in the original manuscripts of the Bible and has been thrown out of the Bible.

            What about John 3:16 – “For God loved the world that he gave his one and only son….”:

            Let us look at the following verses:

            “that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. (From the NIV Bible, John 3:15-17)”

            First of all, it is important to know that John 3:15-17 is not a quote from Jesus himself in the Bible. It is a quote that exist in the so-called “Gospel of John”, but the Gospel itself according to the theologians and historians of the NIV Bible had been tampered with and altered by men, along with most of the Bible’s books and gospels.

            The interpretation of John 3:16 can mean that if one doesn’t believe in Jesus as the “son of God”, and that he died on the cross for our sins, then the person will not have an Eternal Life in Paradise. The problem with this, however, is that

            “Son of God” in Hebrew literally means “Servant of God”

            I have provided all of the proofs from the Hebrew language that clearly prove this. Also, others in the Old Testament were called “son of God”, in reference to “servant of God”. So Jesus being “Son of God” doesn’t mean that he is GOD Almighty Himself or part of Him.

            Also, there are verses in the New Testament that state that GOD Almighty listened to Jesus’ cries and saved him from crucifixion. Please visit:

            Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam’s claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible!

            The “God” title in Isaiah 9:6 that was given to Jesus in Hebrew, was actually given to others as well before and after him in the Bible.

            Another problem with this is that it clearly contradicts Jesus own words/quotes as I clearly showed above. What Jesus said in the Bible does not go along with what’s written in the Bible by others that seem to support the trinity lie. This should clearly prove that the Bible had been corrupted and altered by men as the theologians and historians of the NIV Bible itself also agree with.

          • Ben Hur

            Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God as well as the Son of Man. The use of the latter does not disqualify him from the position of the former.

            The Jews wanted to condemn (kill) Jesus because he said he was the Son of God (Matthew 26:65, Luke 22:71). This context again proves that your assertion that Jesus was merely a servant of God is incorrect because they would not have condemned him for that. Jesus said he was the monogenes or unique Son of God, who the Jews said was equal to God.

            God is not a man that he should lie implies that God is not like men who lie. At the time that verse was written it is also true that Christ had not yet become a man.

            Jesus gave up aspects of his divine nature due to his incarnation as a man. Although Jesus had human form, the Father would continue to administer the universe.

            No one has seen God the Father at ant time but they have seen God the Son (Almighty God (the Son)).

            God saved Jesus from death because he raised him to life through the Resurrection. You quote Hebrews yet this very same book declares Jesus is the atoning sacrifice whom angels worship and God declares is God (1:6,8).

            Quran 5:47 affirms the accuracy of the Gospels. The Gospels we have now are the same ones that were present in the 7th Century. Therefore the Gospels are not corrupted according to the quran. However if the quran is not corrupted then it self destructs because it teaches the opposite to the Gospels!

            Also remember the Bible declares in Isaiah 43:10 and elsewhere there has only ever been one God: “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

            Any other G(g)ods are FALSE. Your thoughts on Isaiah 6:9 are therefore incorrect because we know Jesus is not false. Wonderful councellor, everlasting Father, Mighty God?
            Islam is harsh to unbelievers. Jesus said to love your enemies.



          • Ben Hur

            For some reason your post has disappeared or I can’t find it. I think there were two main points you made. Jesus can’t be God because he changed and the sacrifice of Christ is not consistent with the Old Testament (God did something new).

            Jesus is both fully man and fully God: Colossians 2:9 states: “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” In this sense the God part of Jesus has not changed. The Old testament says quite a few times that men have seen God face to face (e.g. Moses) in apparent contradiction to the verse that states no man has seen God at any time. The only way to reconcile this is to understand that it was Almighty God Jesus that these men saw.

            I have already explained that Christ is the fulfillment of the sacrificial system seen in the Old Testament. In contrast to this Islam has no way of reconciling Gods system of sacrifice with it own theology. A question you should be asking: Why have animal sacrifices stopped? and why did they need to be repeated in the first place?

            It’s quite difficult to invent history. If Jesus had not died on the cross then people would never have accepted the gospels because there would have been no eyewitnesses to confirm the account. On the contrary, there were many eye witnesses who would have supported the truth of the crucifixion and passed this knowledge to others. The crucifixion was done publicly for all the world to see and believe.

          • Ben Hur

            Even if Naik was correct that Jesus never claimed to be God (in contradiction to what the Jews thought), the Bible declares it so many times that it really wouldn’t matter. He is God. First and last and every knee shall bow before him including Muhummad.

            Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

            Revelation 1: 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

          • Ben Hur

            Wow. Naik is in really hot water here. He said: :”Where does Jesus say he died on the cross for your sins…that is the teaching of Paul.”

            No In the Gospels Jesus said it too.

            Get ready to become a Christian:

            26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples,
            2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

            Matthew 26: 27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
            28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

            Dr. Naik is simply not telling the truth. There you have it for all the world to see in black and white. Get out of Islam friend, it is false and you will die in your sins.

          • jf

            Hi Ben,

            So if the fullness of God dwelt in Jesus, then why would satan try and tempt Jesus? Satan already would know God is in Jesus so why would he try and tempt him? That’s one problem you must solve for us. It makes no sense for satan to try and tempt Jesus while satan knew the fullness of God was in Jesus, and Jesus himself must have known this, so why did satan try and tempt Jesus like he did? The fact is satan did this is because Jesus is not God, nor did satan take Jesus as God, and Jesus knew he wasn’t God.

            Secondly if the fullness of God is in Jesus, then this means God went to the bathroom, went to sleep, went to eat, and went to cry and pray! Thirdly this also means your God is not all-knowing, since Jesus stated he doesn’t know the last hour, since the fullness of God was in him, then this means God to didn’t know therefore he cant be God. Or was that the man part only? Question, when do you know the man Jesus is talking and not the divine Jesus? The fact is you don’t but you have to guess. Secondly, what happens to the divine spirit of Jesus when the man part of Jesus takes over? Is it hiding? Is it conscious? Where is it? Thirdly, how can the human nature overcome the divine nature of God? That is illogical and IMPOSSIBLE. So this verse actually leaves you with more problems than solutions, but anyway, Paul said it, not Jesus, and Paul is a liar so I for one could care less to what he has to say. Much more could be said to show how silly this verse is, but that should be enough.

            This brief examination of yours on three key biblical passages to show that Jesus is God completely failed. Jesus is not God, get over it, you will never be able to prove it, and whatever information you bring I will always be there to refute it, insha’Allah.

          • Ben Hur

            I believe Jesus is God. Sure I don’t have ‘all the answers’ but I believe that this makes the most sense when all the information is examined. Isaiah 9:6, Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 48:16 Isaiah 53, Micah 5:2, Psalm 22, Daniel 9:26 and others tell of a savior/God who will become a man to atone for the sins of his people. Jesus in the new testament seems to fulfill all those promises of the Old Testament. I seriously doubt Paul is a liar. He was a lot closer to the events than we are and actually risked his life in becoming a Christian. He was persecuting the Christians initially and was extremely zealous in the Jewish faith being much more accomplished that his fellows. The theology demonstrated in his letters is really no different than that of the Gospels. He too believes Jesus was crucified and died for our sins. Islam simply does not agree with the Gospels, Paul or historical fact. Jesus was crucified. He even said he must suffer, be crucified and rise again in accordance with the Old testament (e.g. Matthew 20:19, Luke 24:46). Islam does not believe the words of Jesus. The Quran itself affirms the Gospels (surah 5:47). As I stated earlier this causes Islam to self destruct because the Gospels teach the opposite of Islam, namely the atoning sacrifice of Christ through the crucifixion! Islam is a religion of fear. That’s how it controls. If you leave Islam…they kill you. This threat invalidates the faith of every Muslim because most people would ‘believe’ anything if they were going to be killed. If you speak against Islam….they kill you. Again control. They don’t want you to think or even discuss the possibility Islam is false. The new Testament calls Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8, John 1:1, John 20:28, Titus 2:13 and Colossians 2:9. The bible tells us there is only one God so Jesus can’t be another god. He must be God. He is called the First and Last in Revelation etc. Islam is a set of rules and regulation. Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ who sets you free by removing the guilt and judgement of God. Repent of your sins and ask Jesus to forgive you. The sins are breaking the ten commandments.

          • jg

            Hi Ben,

            Satan already would know God is in Jesus so why would he try and tempt him? That’s one problem you must solve for us.

            Jesus over here is rebuking the Jews for how they don’t understand scripture. Jesus then says in verse 37 that if he does the works of the Father (obviously because nothing he does is of his own authority (John 5:30) and he is doing what God is commanding) then they should believe that he is God’s son (son of God in the sense that he is serving God) and that they will know that the Father is in him and that he is in the Father (this shows oneness of purpose, see similar examples in John 17:21).

            Jesus told them the real reason why they wanted to kill him…

            God not changing. However before we move on, let me elaborate a bit more on what it means that God does not change, and in doing so we can then proceed on with the article with a clearer picture. It is quite clear from those verses Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29; Psalm 102:26-27; Malachi 3:6; Romans 11:29; Hebrews 6:17-18; James 1:17, that God does not change. However, what does it mean that God does not change? Does it mean that God never becomes a man and changes shape? Does it mean he takes on no other different forms? Many Christians obviously don’t believe that. That is fair enough, however so they still do not get the big picture from what God means when he says he does not change. To make things clear lets quote some of those verses.

            Num 23:19: God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

            1 Samuel 15:29: And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.

            Malachi 3:6: For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

            Those three verses should do. So basically we see making it very clear that he does not change. When God says he does not change, this means he does not change his essence, his attributes, his purpose and his decrees. However, this leaves the Christians with a problem. Sure the Christians say that those verses don’t mean that God cannot become a man, however the verses are still very clear, that God is not LIKE a man to repent or change his mind, God is not LIKE a man to be weak and have no power, God is not LIKE a man to become a servant.

            That is the main message that God is sending, he not like a man, so we cannot try and compare him with us, and he is not like a man to change his mind, such as his laws and his teachings. However so, if Jesus is indeed God, then God has indeed taken a drastic U-turn and has changed, not because he became a man, or the son of man, but because his attributes and essence have completely CHANGED.

            1- God’s attributes never change, he is ALWAYS all POWERFUL and all MIGHTY, and is not in need of anyone else, he owns everything and has all power and authority. Jesus was not all-powerful nor was he all mighty, since he had nothing of his own, everything he had was from the Father. Jesus did not own anything, especially the authority he had. It was GIVEN, not owned by Jesus. Jesus was in need of the Father to spread the message and teach the people, by signs, miracles, and doctrine. All those things were given to Jesus. God is not in need of ANYTHING. That is why he says he is not LIKE a man. So basically if we are to believe Jesus is God, then it is without a doubt that God did change and lied when he said he does not change. Let us just make a summary out of point one.

            A- God is not in need of anything or anyone: Jesus was in need of the Father. (John 8:28, John 5:30, Heb 5:7-8)

            B- God OWNS everything, all things belong to him, he does not receive power or authority from others. Jesus did not own ANYTHING, everything he had was from the Father, from miracles to his doctrine, and nothing was his. The divine Jesus who is not bound by the flesh is also in need of things. (John 14:24, John 7:16, Mat 28:18, John 13:3, John 17:6-8, as for the divine Jesus being GIVEN things Dan 7: 13-14)

            So the facts are clear, Jesus is in no way similar to God, and if Jesus is God, then God did definitely change!

            2- God’s message doesn’t change either; God does not change his mind or repent. However so, we hear Christians saying Jesus came down to die for our sins, which is another drastic U-turn in the way God does things. The first commandment was always the most important of all, and so were several other commandments. However we now see that position has changed. We now have to believe in Jesus dying for our sins to be saved, and that the NT and OT are very different. So the fact of the matter is that if Jesus is God, then God did change his message, and his mind on the way he does things, by making Jesus die for our sins. It seems God was not strong enough that he had to make an easy way into heaven for us, just believe in Jesus and you’re saved. It seems God gave up on us.

            So it is clear, if Jesus is God, then God did change. However so, I do not believe that God did change, and that Jesus is NOT God. The facts are there for everyone to see. Jesus in NO WAY can be the same powerful and all mighty God of the OT. So with that all cleared up, we can now move on the article after establishing what is meant by God not changing, and that Jesus in no way can be God because that would mean God did change.

            “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” Hebrews 13:8

            Hebrews 13:8, because the verse actually hurts his argument of Jesus being God. If Jesus is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow, then this means Jesus was always in need of things from the Father! If Jesus is always the same then Jesus NEVER owned anything of his own! He never had his own authority and power. As the verse says Jesus is the same yesterday tomorrow and forever. We cannot say that before Jesus took on the flesh, that he was all-powerful and mighty, because this is totally illogical and against what the verse is stating. Once Jesus became man he completely CHANGED from his former state, in his former state, which we are to believe, is that he was all-powerful and not bound by the flesh. However the fact is obvious, once he became man he CHANGED a lot. He became a servant and let go of his powers or so we are told.

            Jesus is the same tomorrow, meaning the future, then this means Jesus was still bound by the flesh, because if he did change back to his former state of being which is to be divine, then that is a huge change!

            So overall Jesus changes two times, the first is when he became a man (he was given everything, unlike when he was in his divine state), the second is when Jesus returned back to his fully divine state and no longer being bound by the flesh. So overall if Hebrews 13:8, then this means Jesus was never God! Because the verse says Jesus never changed, he is always the same, so this means he was always bound by the flesh and in need of things, and that my friend does not work.

            However, the problem does not stop there. The verse says Jesus does not change in the same sense that God does not change. However so, we have established what is meant by God not changing, and the fact is Jesus does change in the way God says he will not change, which is to become LIKE a man which is to give up his powers and attributes etc. So the verse itself is a mistake! Because Jesus did in fact go through two huge changes. However if Christians are too blind or too proud to admit the verse is not a mistake, then they will have to accept the fact that Jesus did not ever change, meaning when he took on the flesh, that was not a change, so basically it means Jesus was ALWAYS like a man and was always limited. That conclusion also still leaves the Christian with a problem! If Jesus was always LIKE a man, and being bound by flesh and being limited, then that means God did not know what he talking about when he said he is not LIKE a man, because there was already one person within the God-head who was LIKE a man and a man in every sense. So one must ask why did God say he is not LIKE a man when Jesus was always LIKE a man? Did God not know? Or was Jesus never like a man and did in fact change when he took on the flesh and limited himself contradicting the very words of God that he is not LIKE a man. That he does not change. So either way the Christian is still left with a lot of problems.

            1- If you truly believe Hebrews 13:8, then this means Jesus never changed and was always bound by the flesh and being limited, which that in itself proves he is not God.

            2- If you believe the verse, then this means Jesus never changed and was always bound by the flesh, and that the Bible is lying when it says Jesus let go of his powers and became like a servant.

            3- If you believe Jesus never changed, then this means Jesus was always bound by the flesh and being limited as a man, then this would make no sense in God saying he is not LIKE a man, and that he does not change. Either God did not know there was a Jesus who was LIKE a man, and a man in every sense, or God just didn’t know what he was talking about.

            4- However the Bible makes it clear Jesus was not always bound by the flesh, and took it on and limited himself and became LIKE a man, that in itself contradicting the words of God when he says he is not LIKE a man. As we have already explained what is meant by God not changing, meanings his attributes, his powers, his essence and his qualities, Jesus changed in every single way if he is God.

            5- Jesus did in fact change two times, the first time is when he became a man and limited himself, which is a change, as he let go of his powers, and attributes, and as we have already shown earlier, this is a huge change when we take the words of God that he is not LIKE a man. Jesus was LIKE a man and Jesus became LIKE a man on his will! Obviously if Jesus is God he forgot when God said he is not LIKE a man.

            The second change Jesus went through is when he died and came back to life in his divine state of being, two obvious changes.

            So Christians can decide what to believe about the verse, but the verse will still cause them a lot of problems. I will leave this for every Christian to solve.

            Jesus’ divine nature never ceased, a huge lie. Bring me the verse where Jesus did a single divine thing on his own. I would also like to know when a divine being needed to be GIVEN EVERYTHING he had?


            christian bursted in tears after Yusuf Estes answered his question! English subtitle

          • Ben Hur

            Hi jg

            Your opinion is just that. My belief is that when you look at the bible objectively you will see that Jesus is God, who became a man who died for our sins.

            You said:”So the facts are clear, Jesus is in no way similar to God”.

            Hebrews 1:3a: “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.”

            Genesis 1:26 “..Let us make man in our image..”
            This verse also supports the trinity doctrine.

            You said: “we hear Christians saying Jesus came down to die for our sins, which is another drastic U-turn in the way God does things”

            This is not true because God always had always his sacrifices for sins. The Temple was ordained to perform sacrifice. These sacrifices have now stopped because Jesus is the permanent and final sacrifice.
            Who do I believe? Jesus, John the Baptist, Apostle Paul, bible e.t.c or you and your prophet?

            The transfiguration of Jesus shows his divine state was always there. He chose not to express this all the time because of his mission.

            Yusef Estes has taken one verse to show Jesus is not God. (Numbers 23:19). He has put his interpretation on it but there are many more verses that support the Christian point of view e.g. Isaiah 9:6. You need to look at the whole bible in context to get the overall message.

            You die if you leave Islam. This threat invalidates the faith of all Muslims because one might believe anything under such a threat. Although the Quran might not mention the sword, this is a technicality that Yusef has used to obscure the truth (e.g. how is one beheaded? with a spoon?).
            Jesus came with a sword because his message would cause people to fight one another. e.g. a Muslim with a sword beheads a Christian for believing Jesus is God.

            I’ll stop here because I have addressed many of your other points in other discussions.

            Come to the light! Repent and believe to good news!


          • jg

            Hi Ben,

            Satan already would know God is in Jesus so why would he try and tempt him? That’s one problem you must solve for us.

            Jesus pbuh not God because is not all knowing:

            Mark 24: 32-36:

            32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only

            God is all-knowing, Jesus fails this main qualification. This alone is enough to prove that Jesus is not God. Also note the verse says ONLY the Father meaning nobody else, including the divine Jesus.


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          • Ben Hur

            When Jesus spoke these words to the disciples, even He had no knowledge of the date and time of His return. Although Jesus was fully God (John 1:1, 14), when He became a man, He voluntarily restricted the use of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2:6–8). He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father (John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated His omniscience on several occasions (cf. John 2:25; 3:13), but He voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know during the days of His humanity (John 15:15). Such was the case regarding the knowledge of the date and time of His return. After He was resurrected, Jesus resumed His full divine knowledge (cf. Matthew 28:18; Acts 1:7).

            Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus’ return will be. Verses such as John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28-29; 10:30; 12:49; 14:28, 31; and Matthew 26:39, 42 demonstrate Jesus’ submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead. Yes, they are both God. But some things Jesus had apparently chosen to “give up the rights” to be privy to during His earthly ministry (see Philippians 2:5-11). Jesus, now exalted in Heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His Second Coming.

            The bible says Jesus is God many, many times. Verses such as the one you have selected don’t explicitly state Jesus is not God. This is your reasoning alone. You must look at the bible in its overall entirety and message. The message is: God became a man who died for our sins.

            The Islamic State is a truthful return to traditional Islam. If you believe they are following the one true God then I would appeal to your conscience and reasoning. Their God is not kind and not one I would want to follow. Most importantly IS rejects the truth of the Gospel and is eternally lost.

          • jl

            Hi Ben,

            Satan already would know God is in Jesus so why would he try and tempt him? That’s one problem you must solve for us. which is very difficult to every Christians to answer, May be you should see your church to get the answer.

            Jesus was GIVEN power and authority, he did not own it.

            As we all know, God is all-powerful and is independent, he needs no help from anybody. However so this is not the case with Jesus, unlike God, Jesus needs help from God, unlike God, Jesus does not own any power or any authority, rather it is given to him from God.

            Jhn 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;

            John 17:6-8: 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. 7 Now they have known that ALL THINGS whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me

            So as we can see, Jesus GIVEN everything he had! This all included miracle, doctrine etc. Basically Jesus did not do anything of his own, he never performed a miracle by his own power, he was given the miracle. He never taught anything of his own, rather he was taught by God and spoke what God told him to speak.

            Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

            Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

            Jhn 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

            Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

            So everything Jesus had was from God, from the Gospel to his miracles. God needs no one to give him power, God needs no one to tell him what to do, therefore Jesus is not God.

            I challenge any Christian to bring me one single miracle Jesus performed on his own, just one. The Christian will never be able to meet this challenge.

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          • Ben Hur

            Jesus did not succumb to the temptation so his reputation is still intact. Satan tried to tempt him. It didn’t work. It was useless because he is God. Again, nothing in what you have quoted proves Jesus is not God.

            Islam uses many techniques to conquer. The best method is to win people over by openness and dialogue. Armed conflict is not the preferred method. When Islam is in minority it tends to not rock the boat too much. As it gains strength then it becomes more militant and demanding. Islam is just using commonsense. Look at all Muslim majority countries. All non-Muslims are second class citizens. Places like Pakistan and Iran are notorious for persecution of non-Muslims.

            The goal of Islam is to take over the world by force if necessary. The leaders in the West seem to be oblivious to the threat Islam is. Westerners do not go to Islamic countries because they would be persecuted, because only Islam is tolerated.


          • jenkins_laurence

            “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
            John 8:58

            You don’t understand the duality of Jesus’ nature , the unglorified state he had accepted as a means to save mankind or therefore the issue of “oneness” the “oneness” spoken of is essence not numbers
            the reason he speaks of the father being greater .
            he was the essence of the Godhead ,who had also put himself into the soul and body of a man ,using only the “tools” of man to keep the whole of the law but still only relying on the father (faith in the Godhead) to do so .
            winning the right for mankind to be justified before the law and God if they simply believe in Jesus .

            but let’s look at the Qu’rans claims that this is not the case , but still also claim to be keeping the instructions of the law , where are the sacrifices
            the Levitical tent of meeting , the tithing ect,ect,ect …. it claims the Torah as evidence but denies it’s commands …you can’t have it both ways

            it also claims if any doubt the authenticity of the Qu’ran it should check
            with the people of the book jews and Christians WHY ?

            to authenticate it’s message from a corrupted book ?

            again you can’t have it both way’s

            the qu’ran is a theological basket case of schizophrenia

            not unlike it’s alleged author .

            “by their fruits you will know them” Matthew 7:16

            what fruits do we see from Islam ? despite all the talk of peace ? murder and hate

      • Ben Hur

        True, but it may prolong and even deter the locusts in individual cases/regions. For example maybe Holland will never fully succumb to the Muslim invasion because of prayer and good government. Perhaps those in Calais will get the strength to stand firm by prayer and turning to God. Who knows? Maybe significant numbers of Muslims will come to repentance and faith in Christ?

        • Rod Dodger

          According to the Script…
          We’ve reached the end.
          Revelation 10:7 says it all : “But in the days when the 7th angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as He announced to His servants the prophets.”
          With Muhammad’s Allah proven to be the fallen angel of Rev 10 and his lone prophet proven to be Muhammad (Lucifer), the mysteries of God are unfolding – as the nuclear armies gather in ancient Israel, the valley of Armageddon.
          The last of God’s chosen, faithful and called are going home.

          • Ben Hur

            Friend, you do not know when the end is. Granted we are near the end. Hezekiah prayed for 15 more years and God granted it to him. Who knows? They thought Hitler was the end but he wasn’t. Look at Dunkirk and Psalms 91:

            •Psalm 91:The miracle of Dunkirk•

            In the early days of world war 2, a big army of allied soldiers were encircled and trapped in France.

            They were days away from total annihilation.

            The King of England, King George 6 called for a national day of prayer. The whole British empire and the world joined to intercede for a miracle. People flocked to churches.

            4 miracles happened:

            1. Hitler ordered the advancing German armored unit to halt.

            2. An unprecedented storm broke out that prevented German planes from flying over France.

            3. A great calm settled over the British channel which enabled over 800 boats and ships of all sizes to ply back and forth from UK to France to ferry the servicemen to safety.

            4. A troop of about 400 soldiers recited Psalm 91 on the beaches of Dunkirk. They were pinned down in the open from raining German bombs and were machine gunned from 60 enemy aircrafts. All of them walked away without even a scratch.

            At the end of day, the lives of 338, 226 allied soldiers were spared

          • Rod Dodger

            Jesus gave us the lesson of the fig tree (Mt 24:32-35).
            Paul gave us the difference between hype and the actual end (2The 2:1-4).
            The man Paul warned us about has been proven to be Muhammad, aka Lucifer.
            The day has come when rebellion has occurred and Lucifer (Muhammad) has been revealed, exalting himself over everything including Christ Jesus, setting himself up on the Temple Mount and even declaring himself to be like the Most High and above the stars of God – even achieving heaven on his midnight journey.

            At the time of the miracle at Dunkirk, Muhammad had not been revealed as Lucifer and his god had not been revealed to be the fallen angel of Rev 10.
            They have been revealed now.

            Jesus and Paul agree… Once these things have been accomplished, the end will come.

            The Luciferians are pouring out over the earth – like locusts. They are nuclear armed and they have one of their own in the White House.

            America was the last nation on earth to turn against Jerusalem, the city God loves.

            We’re there.

          • Ben Hur

            Maybe, but we should still pray. Prayer won’t change the script but it may prolong it or change our personal circumstances. Perhaps all this stuff happens because people weren’t praying? Also, Islam teaches that Mo is not God and not to be worshiped. Lucifer is Satan, not Mohammad. Mohammad is anti-Christ. The Angel in Rev. 10 is not a fallen angel but a good one! What church do you belong to?

          • Rod Dodger

            Agreed, we should still pray. My point is that, like a dying relative or friend, our prayers will not necessarily stop what is inevitable. What our prayers CAN do is guide us through such difficult moments.
            I believe this to be that moment.
            This is happening because this generation of man has become the “completely wicked rebels” that Daniel warned us about in verses 8:23-25. So wicked is this generation of man that it actually mocked God and His sign of His covenant, the rainbow, and made it the very symbol of sexual immorality. So vile is this nation that it actually displayed that symbol upon the White House in celebration of sexual immorality that has now BECOME LAW IN THE LAND.

            You are mistaken about Muhammad. The shahada clearly states that “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his (exclusive) messenger.” Muhammad calls himself “Al-Tariq” – “the bright morning star.” This is Jesus’ name in Rev 22:16 and Lucifer’s name in Isaiah 14:12. Muhammad states all five of the arrogant statements listed in Isaiah 14:13-14. He fits every biblical description, name and characteristic of the false prophet as is given in the many books and letters of the Bible – ALL of them.
            Lucifer is the man who attempted to displace Jesus as “the bright morning star.” That man was Muhammad.

            Like Jesus is the flesh of God the Father, Muhammad is the flesh of Satan (Allah), the masquerading light (stated in Qur’an 24:35). Muhammad and his god are the very definition of “antichrist” as are all Muslims (1Jn 2:22).

            The angel in Rev 10 holds the Qur’an and his disciples roar back the “Seven Suspended Ones” (seven thunders) of Qur’an chapter 1. These are known as the “Grand Qur’an.” You will notice that a rainbow is above the fallen angel’s head – just like the rainbow was above the head of Barack Hussein when he splashed the White House in the colors of the rainbow.

            The Qur’an, “the beverage of many hues” from a bee (honey), made John sick – like it does all men who feed off of it.

            There is no mistake. Muhammad is man’s most evil flesh. His facilitators are next.

            I am a part of Jesus’ body. I belong to Him.

          • Ben Hur

            Thanks friend. Very interesting and informative. God Bless and best wishes. Keep preaching the word with courage.

          • Rod Dodger


          • Paulette Hanson

            64,000 Antelope dropped dead in Idaho recently. 64,000 Antelope dropped dead in Kazykstan last week. Thousands upon thousands of fish and sea life have washed up on shores around the world. Thousands upon thousands of birds have been dropping dead out of the sky. This is all prophesied in Revelations. 1/3, 1/2 of what’s left, 1/2 of what’s left.

      • NoMoreIslam

        moslem spelled with no capital m. Please keep up the standard.

        • Rod Dodger

          Muhammad is a proper name… To be capitalized like Lucifer.

      • Really?


    • Roba

      Lia, please also include Australia in your prayers, we have the same problems down under, muzzies and thirdworlders are infesting our country and our politicians are hopeless, incompetent and unwilling to speak the truth about this islamic and third world Hijra (exodus, migration). The majority of those male savages are not refugees, they are invaders looking for freebies, welfare and white women. This good for nothing ‘human’ trash is unemployable.
      Before we tackle this problem of apocalyptic proportions we must first deal with our corrupt, useless and politically correct traitor politicians. They are the ones who have created this unpredictable calamity, and unfortunately I don’t think that prayers will be enough to solve this scandalous conundrum.

      • Lia

        Australia added! I’m beginning to wonder if one shouldn’t list all countries in the world before our Father?

    • Just Opinions

      Instead of praying, share the video link and remind all your friends that a vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote for open borders and chaos.

  • David

    What Europeans need is Balls!

    • MattBracken

      They need GUNS.

      • durabo

        Amen, Matt, but my I suggest a smaller reticle for head shots, in case the Muzzie is wearing body armor?

        • Dr. Doomsday

          He is more assured of a hit this way. The impact will affect the target’s ability to move well, and you can nail him again. Shooting him in the upper thigh works too.

          • durabo

            I teach my CCW trainees to go for the pelvic girdle. Two lower abdominal arteries feeding downhill into femoral arteries…pretty fast exsanguination unless EMTs get there fast. And, of course, NOBODY remains standing with a fractured pelvis. Great medicine, now that unfriendly types are wearing body armor.

          • MattBracken

            It’s pretty much of a morale buzz kill too, laying there bleeding out in agony.

          • Pray Hard

            Whatever it takes.

          • MattBracken

            See my comment on how I made it above.

        • MattBracken

          Yes, but I just made that meme on Windows Paint, with an imagined red dot. You would not believe how crude a graphic that “carbine” is or how I put it together with basic “paint.”

          Here is a meme I swiped from the internet that I like also.
          “You boys behave, or I’ll give you the belt.”

      • David

        Matt, What European countries needs is a 1. Amendment! Like America!!!

        • MattBracken

          1st and 2nd Amds.

    • Aleteia

      and God! Nihil sine Deo!

  • Ircsi

    Francois Hollande should be charged for treason.

    • Ben Hur

      Unfortunately the French voted for him when they should have been voting for Geert Wilders or the equivalent. It’s a bitter pill to swallow, but it’s their fault. I hope they get their act together soon and learn from the massive error they have inflicted upon themselves..

      • iWildwood

        Learn, arm up by whatever means possible, and act. Revolt seems their only hope.

        • bertie

          Why are we always going to Europe to fight for them. Let loose the Foreign legion.

      • Patriot girl

        And they keep on voting for the limp wristed savage loving open borders politicians! I mention in my other post that the French HAD THEIR CHANCE TO PUT FN IN CHARGE OF NORMANDY IN THE FORM of MARINE LE PEN! She and her party know exactly what to do! Had she been voted in the first thing in her agenda would’ve been to bulldoze the jungle in Calais n deport them! But how did these French vote when they had the only opportunity in years to clear out the traitors, and didn’t! FN to the horror of the establishment was clearly going to win so the socialist dems pulled out n the more moderate lefties got together and beat le pens FN! How many times do the French have to take it in the rear?! How many more Calais trucker being held up citizens raped and robbed?!? The breaking point will be when the savages in ther swarming of the trucks kill the driver! That will be the spark of revolution! The French have a bloody past and are capable of bringing it back! They need to call up their ancestors rage n channel their own and start the revolution against savages!
        I think it’s going to be a long 4 years for these clueless idiots! Like the French we too have the vote of our generation coming up! Trump will stop the invaders! He will insist those rich nation cough up $ to support the scroungers in Turkish refugee centers! Hey Jordan really got screwed but their getting loads of us $ I think! But we cannot be like the French and vote in a communist open borders savage loving president that would be sanders or worse Clinton ! They’re both determined to destroy us from within with unrelenting American hating savages from ever Mid East hell hole on the planet! Please folks vote trump he is the only one with balls to shut out the NASHING of teeth and caterwauling the demoncraps will be doing when he stops Muslim immigration hopefully forever!! Even an 8 year pause would be helpful but we need to stop it completely to not end up like Europe! The bigger the number if savages the more the feel free to rape rob n pillage all whilst collecting welfare n free housing! And then bitch about it! They’re attacking French Parisians now blaming them for joblessness! Savages from hell!

        • Ben Hur

          You go girl! Now the US can show the world how stupid or not they are at these next elections. They have the advantage of having Europe and France as test cases to learn from.
          I really hope the clique of ‘dumb Americans’ does not prevail at these next elections. We’re counting on you guys to stand up as you always have when it has counted (mostly).

        • Tina

          During the French elections the media was in hyper over drive fear mongering that FN were Nazi fascists. I believe EVERY newspaper was doing this.

        • Pray Hard

          Leftists love blood sacrifices to their tools.

      • Toby1

        Don’t hold your breath. I live in France. One of my best friends is a well educated intelligent young woman of the typical French liberal type. Strong convictions, politically left wing. Very fierce about rights and morals etc. I have tried to open her eyes to what is happening. Guess what the result was? She no longer wants to be friends with me.

        • Dr. Doomsday

          Typical leftist mentality. The problem is, you threatened her well maintained house of cards. Liberals have their personality and self worth invested into their delusion, so to threaten a liberal idea, you may as well have said, “You’re ugly and your mother dresses you funny, fatso.” -because that is the kind of response you get from them, they bury their heads further into the sand, and blame you.

          Just remember, when a liberal asks you what you think about something, they are not asking your opinion, its more like a sonar ping. They are waiting for the proper response so they can tell if you are friend or foe. Has little to do with the idea being foisted at the time, or what you really think.

          • Toby1

            Yes that’s a very apt description. A sonar ping to test whether friend or foe. Not that any liberal has ever asked my opinion on such matters. They merely ask you to join them in a song of ‘isn’t it terrible’ or ‘we must do more’ or ‘those evil fascists’. Never ‘what do you think’.

        • Ben Hur

          I hope she wasn’t pretty. Now that would be a shame.
          People die for their beliefs and I guess she and other like her will too. I believe in rights e.t.c for all people but not if their belief system demands my destruction and it is precisely this point that she refuses to investigate.

        • Tina

          I have family in France. It’s the same thing. I’ve been warning them since Charlie Hebdo. Furious silence or ridicule is the response. I’m not giving up, just going more gently.

          On another board Matt Bracken said they need to be deprogrammed. I thought that was a very apt description.

    • MattBracken

      Quisling traitors who need to hang.

      • durabo

        Please add Sheikh Hussein al-Obamastan and Canada’s Trudeau to the portrait gallery.

        • Dr. Doomsday

          And John, “I served in Vietnam” Kerry, and of course, the Hillary, mother of ISIS…

        • MattBracken

          Indeed. I don’t have a Sheikh Trudeau on hand yet.

          • IzlamIsTyranny


    • durabo

      A country whose main battle tank (MBT) has one forward and five reverse speeds is not willing to fight.

  • jim becks

    On one hand my blood boils at the situation. On the other hand, the Euros brought it upon themselves. The disease of liberalism is rampant in Europe. Liberals feel good about themselves when they invoke tolerance and multi-culturalism as they open the doors to an invading army which hates those same ideals. They elected the governments that now hold their hands over their mouths to stifle their screams while the barbarians beat and rape and pillage them. This is what liberal do-gooderism has wrought.

    • Cloward Piven Democrat

      Liberalism is rampant in the US too. Did we bring this on ourselves? Do we deserve what has happened in moat major cities and many small towns? I didn’t vote for Obama, but now I have MS13 20 minutes from my house. That’s pretty messed up.

      • imwithstoopid

        And it’s going to get a lot worse, the POTUS and HUD have gotten together to open up all areas to the worst of the worst by forcing builders and land lords to make more “affordable” housing in all places. Section 8 ring a bell?

        PS…Please read and sign this…..
        Petition · U.S. Senate, President of the United States: Ban Islam and Shari’ah Law in the United States of America ·

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          I’m surprised the liberal a$$holes at would host your blatantly “islamophobic” petition.

  • Michael Copeland

    Hollande and Merkel have broken the social contract with the people.
    Conflict is fast approaching.

    • bertie

      And TURDEAU

  • Pavla Víšková

    Pamela, thank You for Your very good work for the people on earth. Watch the video obout Angela Merkel :-D :

    • Scorpio

      Wow…creepy video. A bullet through her left eye would take the smirk off her
      putrid face.

      • Pray Hard

        Muslims will, sooner or later, take care of all these leftists.

  • Isaiah5512

    The French rejected The Lord. And now The Lord has rejected The French.

    • Ben Hur

      Do you think it’s a bit like Old Israel who rejected the Lord, except for the faithful remnant. They went into captivity and were scattered throughout the Nations because of disobedience?

      • Madhavi

        It’s karma. They’re doing it to themselves ( unconsciously) to absolve themselves of past sins – the Vichy government , Napoleon … So many wars. Europe is committing suicide . Maybe , hopefully , a few nations will survive.

        • Aleteia

          Christians do not believe in Karma, Jesus broke karmic cycles.We are redeemed!

          • Madhavi

            If that were true, there would be no human beings on the planet.
            If you’ve ever experienced pleasure or pain , that’s karma.
            When we become ” perfect”, as Jesus said ,then there is no more karma (except the body’s karma ). When the “I” is replaced by the “I Am”, karma is extinguished

      • Rod Dodger


    • Rod Dodger

      The US rejected the Lord on 11/04/2008 and again on 11/06/2012. And now The Lord rejects the US.
      Splashing the White House in the colors of the rainbow to celebrate sexual immorality to be the new law of the land was mocking God. The rainbow is His reminder to us of His covenant with us. He warned us that Satan would set it above his head (Rev 17:1).
      Well, Satan’s Commander in Chief fulfilled that prophecy.
      America is America no longer; forever altered by the fundamental transformation of a freely-elected jihadist.
      Welcome to Obamistan.

    • Aleteia

      God doesn’t reject, when we turn away from God, we are not protected. If French return to God, He will help them because God is love and merciful!

  • Thaaff

    I wonder how much more of this mayhem the good citizens throughout Europe, the U.K. and the Netherlands will endure before their basic will to survive kicks in for real, and they simply bypass their respective government “leaders”, which is far less than they deserve, and rise up against this vile invasion using every weapon at their disposal against those 5th century BC devils? Despite the gun control their Socialist governments have imposed (in order to maintain their control over the people), it would just require some creative thinking to turn the tide on this – it is high time the U.N. gets it’s butt kicked!

    • Per Madsen

      Did you watch the entire thing? Her husband has cancer and they are being kicked out of their house to take it for migrants. It’s impossible to fight when you are sick and struggling to live and survive. This is how they will win against the native peoples of Europe.

      • Aleteia

        We are many and we are awakening! It will be hard but we will prevail! Hard times come to Europe. What is essential, is to return to God!

        • bertie


          • Aleteia

            Yes, we need to arm ourselves, but what is necessary is to trust that we have a right cause, and we are ready for fight for it. Too many are pessimistic and ready to succumb psychologically.

          • Dr. Doomsday

            Right cause? I haven’t seen anyone discuss going out and attacking, I hear about defense. Thats a right cause from the jump. Some idiot, Muslim or not, tries to take your life, or harm you and your family. There is your right cause.

          • Aleteia

            Some, even Christians suggest that we don’t defend ourselves but die a martyr death. I do believe that we have the right to defend ourselves as our ancestors did. Look at the Christians churches in Europe: they are politically correct, the bishop in Cologne asked Germans to not jump into conclusions, and the priest who raised his voice against the rapists and rapes was silenced. Such people need to realize that we have a right cause.

          • imwithstoopid

            For the most part we are simply civilians not solders, regardless of how many you are. They on the other hand, are Kamikazes hell bent on dying for their so-called prophet and his devil god and killing all else.
            Not a good match.

      • imwithstoopid

        The government of Sweden has been doing that for some time now.

    • imwithstoopid

      Ah, little correction, 7th cent. AD or CE.
      Dissolve the UN and use our money for us.

  • Luigi Valentino

    This is starting in Canada and will be coming to the United States if we don’t stand up and do something now.

    Please sign this petition to Ban Islam and Ban Sharia Law in the USA

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    • imwithstoopid

      Thanks Luigi for passing along the petition, been pushing it myself to good effect.

  • Madhavi

    This is heartbreaking. She should run for mayor. Ironic that her stylish scarf is modeled after the kefiyyeh! -which has become ( in popular left-wing cuiture) , the Arab version of the swastika -and represents everything that is destroying the lives of so many good French people.
    Pray for Europe to close its borders. These migrants -those that are true refugees -should be given refuge in Arab states – amongst their religious brethren -people who share their horrific values. Even the Dalai Lama said as much .

  • Gordon Miller

    Can we hold out for another 11 months when our Caliph-in-Chief leaves office. We would have nothing to fear if we had a conservative leader in office.
    Until then, any move to bring more of these Muslim savages here must be met with strong resistance from our elected officials and ourselves by demonstrating and protesting en masse in locations throughout the country, including the area around the White House.

    • iWildwood

      I’m equally concerned about the very real possibility that our Calip-in-Chief will leave the White House only to soundly land at the UN.

      • durabo

        Then we will burn him down, along with the building, before we bulldoze the ashes into the river.

  • Frank Castle

    Where is the nearest railhead? These ANIMALS need to be rounded up, AT GUNPOINT, and put into freight cars and shipped, via rail, to Southern Italy or Spain. Then, once again, at gunpoint, put on ships and dump them in North Africa like in a deserted spot in Libya or what used to be called Spanish Sahara.

    If that doesn’t work, get guns and shot to kill these Islamic barbarians and beat the hell out to the far left media who only want to report lies. These French people shouldn’t have to live like this.

  • Paula Boddington

    This is heartbreaking. This woman is inspirational, look how even after all this she has not lost her sense of humour and her spirit. Her courage is amazing. If only she were mayor of Calais.

  • Mannie

    I see only two likely outcomes to this; the total destruction of Europe, or a second Holocaust. I don’t much like either alternative. It will get worse before it gets better.

    • Cloward Piven Democrat

      I get what you mean, but the destruction of Europe may be the Holocaust. The Vichy govts of Germany and France are appeasing global entities who want to destabilize them and rationalizing it by thinking the migrants will pay for pensions.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        The european union and its administrators are fools of astronomical proportions when they say they need immigration from muslim countries to work in europe. That is a bare assed lie, muslims don’t work, they beg and steal. If workers were required, they would be bringing in Filipinos, Chinese or other asians who come for cultures with work ethic and a significant level of respect for themselves and others, plus non violent cultures that can co-exist with anyone except muslims, who cannot stand anyone or each other.

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          I hope by “other asians” you don’t mean Malaysians or Indonesians. Because most muslums aren’t Arabic, or caucasian, they’re SE. Asian and they’re killing Buddhists in Thailand and Burma and Christians in the Philippines (Abu Sayyaf and MILF are two exclusively Filipino islamic terrorist groups).

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Anyone but muslims.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            I used to know a woman from the Philippines, she was a Catholic and she lived there and she seemed to have no idea that muslums in Mindanao were slaughtering Christians en mass there (incl. beheading defenseless school girls).

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Not surprising, there is no real media coverage of anything, with outlets relatively scare it wold appear.

  • Jeanne Ballard

    The good people of Calais need guns to protect themselves

    • durabo

      And BALLS!. British officers of yesteryear wore red tunics so that their troops would not notice their leaders’ wounds and lose heart. French military officers have always wore brown trousers, for the same dissimulation.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        That is a fact.

  • mjazzguitar

    It just dawned on me that some good may come of this:
    These people have overplayed their hand.
    Our job, as citizens with freedom of expression, is to take account of every single incident and inundate the media and politicians 24/7 as to what is taking place. Radio, television, newspapers, everyone you can think of. We need to educate fellow workers, family members, anyone and everyone who might not know.



    • imwithstoopid

      Please don’t call them cowards, as even a young girl was arrested and charged for using pepper spray to protect herself, it’s against the law to even carry the stuff, either Germany or Sweden, if I recall correctly.
      Just what can they do when the cops are against you and won’t be there to back you up. Being in jail will do no good for their family.
      You just heard what that poor woman’s son went through when he tried to defend himself. Think if you had to live in the middle of a typical city ghetto.
      This same stuff is happening as we speak in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, and the UK.

      • MICHAEL

        They are playing by European rules and the muslims are laughing…these people crawled out of the sewer,,,maybe the sewer(black ops) is where you need to be…

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Europeans are cowards. Period. They will not stand up for themselves or human decency, they roll over and allow girls to be raped and murdered then cover it up as though it never happened. Denial is the downfall of europe, that, and this generation of sissy boys that have the physical appearance of having balls, but exist only for cosmetic reasons.

  • Cloward Piven Democrat

    We’ve had this in the US with African and Hispanic immigrants for decades. Ferguson MO used to be a nice town. Philly, Cincy, Detroit all used to be nice. Our national parks are no go zones due to cartels. Weaponized Islamic migration is terrifying and must be stopped for their sake and ours. However, we shouldn’t pretend that major American cities haven’t already been lost, or that liberal leaders — in cooperation with globalists and foreign states aren’t waging the same destructive war here. The globalists from both parties are using refugee resettlement contracts and chain migration for new voters and cheap labor, thinking they’ll be safe in their exclusive neighborhoods.

    A coalition must be built to halt all immigration, deport visa abusers, end the anchor baby law, build a wall, resettle refugees in their home lands, use everify and taxes to disencentivize use of immigrant labor, and then study the right way to implement secure immigration in way the president can’t abuse.

    • Richard

      The notion that these Muslim economic migrants will be a source of cheap labor flies in the face of reality. They don’t want to work, they’re here for the handout they believe was promised (and they’re dutifully performing hijra). They will however be a source of Democrat voters.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Muslims don’t work, they steal and beg.

  • Aleteia

    Join a prayer group on Facebook called Freedom Through Prayer. The symbol is a dove. Prayer, fasting and knowledge of the Bible is our strength! Believe and act!

  • lee

    Satan’s ‘final solution’ Islam.

  • durabo

    One big difference: WE ARE (STILL) ARMED IN AMERICA, and when the mobs of IslamoTangos and Guacamolian invaders raise their hands against us, we WILL take the necessary action. Most of Europe has disarmed its civilians, their police are worthless, and their military dominated by NATO. We are (still) a free republic, and we will fight for it. I would rather die on my feet, fighting, than continue living on my knees under still another IslamoMarxist dictatorship. Vive la Résistance!

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Do not die for your beliefs, make the invader die for theirs.

      • IzlamIsTyranny

        Blood and guts Patton said something similar, but as one of his soldiers yelled out to him: “our blood, your guts.”

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Details, details, the idea is to live, and let live, if that is a reasonable option, otherwise shoot the bastards.

      • durabo

        A rewrite of one of general George s. Patton’s witticisms. I like it.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          That has been around, it is well worth repeating, actually it should be written above the door on every school right beside the freedoms the Constitution allegedly guarantees.

          • durabo

            Agreed 100%. I wish we had Generals Patton and LeMay alive today, and in their prime. They would have already overthrown the Kenyan clown currently occupying OUR White House.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            True, there is a shortage of leaders these days, progressive politically correct stupidity makes decent people avoid public administration.

  • bertie

    Why are they not gunning them down.Kill a few hundred and they will disappear.Get the weapons from the police if they are not going to use them.And What about the army?

  • Patriot girl

    My heart is completely broken after hearing that beautiful kind loving PATRIOTIC woman tell her story.. Like the mass majority in France they kindly took the invaders in thinking it the right Christian thing .. At the beginning only to find the savages ungrateful, angry vicious, rapist thieves and murderers! The French had their chance to put in the magnificent Marin le Pen as president of Normandy! BUT THEY VOTED FOR THE SARKOZY GROUP! When front nationale was the leader in first polls and COULDVE WON EASILY, the French people chickened out and in my view have gotten what they deserve a weak will pro savage govt! But when I see a brave woman like this lady its heart breaking the last part of her life has been destroyed and now she’s being evicted probably to house the savages! GOD IT JUST MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL! I feel front nationale is France’s only hope.. As marine le pen would deport those savages bring in the Amy to round them up and ship them back on a leaky boat going nowhere! Where do these savages get the self intitlement they think they have the right to enter anywhere illegally and claim asylum and benefits! Europe is a mess and I shall never return until they have deported the Muslims who are not integrated should be easy! God bless that lovely brave women! She needs to contact FN!!

  • Peter Howe

    She made a very important point in the video, on Saturday there was a demonstration in Calais against the invaders, 150 people turned up, yes just 150, and only 12 of the 150 were Calais residents. Typical French, always complaining and asking OTHERS for help but they themselves are cowards and will not fight for their town. I live in France and have had much sympathy for the people of Calais, but now my sympathy has gone, they have what they deserve.

    • צדקיה עמיחי

      You must have missed the part where General Christian Piquema was arrested at the demonstration. The demonstration was banned by the French government. It’s not the citizens, it’s the government.
      Are you SURE you live in France or are you just talking out of your âss like a typical troll?

      • Peter Howe

        I missed nothing, the people of Calais are quite willing to let the likes of General Piquema take the flak for them, whilst they continue to just moan and groan nothing will be done for them, the French farmers could give the citizens of Calais a few lessons on how to protest. Block the roads and terminals, stop the flow of money to the ferry and tunnel companies only then will something be done. Turning the other cheek or hiding in your home does not work.

    • Tina

      No, they don’t have what they deserve. There are thousands of violent, male migrants in the streets, protected by the police & government. The government is so corrupt that they roughed up, arrested & imprisoned a 4 Star General (Ret) for simply singing the national anthem & speaking!

      Have you seen the videos of those African & Arab mobs? It’s very easy for us to sit at our keyboards & say what we would do, but another to have the courage to risk rape, a severe beating, arrest & jail, followed by a criminal record & firing from one’s job.

  • Pavla Víšková

    A demonstration against the Islamisation of Europe, where I was and was photographed last Saturday – look at the photos. It’s from Prague – Hradcany Square – Czech Republic. The demonstration was very at rest and there was a very decent company.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      Demonstrations aren’t helping the people of Germany, because their government is working against them and in support of islam.

      • Pavla Víšková

        Demonstration helps – last Saturday was not only in the Czech Republic, but in many cities across Europe at the same time. In Germany they were also demonstrations against Islamization, but in Germany they have little freedom of speech and censorship on information. Watch the video from Germany:

    • Tina

      Thank you. I watched it. Bravo Czech Republic!

  • scocope

    When a population is disarmed this is the result.

    • Peter Howe

      It’s quite easy to own a gun in France.

      • scocope

        Sorry but you don’t know what you are talking about.

        “To keep a gun you have to have a permit from the right authorities (préfecture) and you must be officially registered. Your weapon also has to be registered in your name. You have to have a licence from the French shooting federation which you have held for more than six months. You have had to have proper training and taken three different shooting examinations spaced at two monthly intervals that are recorded on an official record book which you must have with you as well as your licence and identity card if you take your gun to another spot than your official residence. Your application to own a gun has to be endorsed and approved by your local branch of the shooting federation. You have to have a special reinforced safe where to keep your weapon in your home. You must have undergone police checks as to your suitability to own a gun, have a clean offence record, and be known in your community for your high morals. You must have no record of any kind with Social Services” (DDASS).
        If that is your idea of easily owning a weapon, you are a sheep.

        • Peter Howe

          Sorry I do know what I am talking about, I am English living in France and all three of my French neighbours have firearms, the formalities are not a problem for anybody without a criminal record.

          • scocope

            You are a sheep. In America we go to the local store and purchase one. There are no “formalities”. But then you are from England; you have no concept of the “Right to bear arms” 2nd Amendment or even free speech 1st Amendment.

          • Peter Howe

            So you go to the store and buy a gun, why do you want a gun?

          • scocope

            You really don’t understand, do you? I don’t have to justify why I want it unlike you (and hope I will be allowed to have it). It’s sheep like you that has caused the out of control Islamic invasion of Europe. Relying on the police to protect you certainly isn’t working out too well is it?

          • Peter Howe

            I simply asked why you would want a gun. Maybe you just like to polish such things before sex.

          • scocope

            So now you’ve just identified yourself as a troll; go away before you embarrass yourself further.

          • Peter Howe

            I guess I was right then, bye.

          • scocope

            Good riddance! Now get that homework done and make your bed like your mom has been asking you to do all week.

          • Peter Howe

            I wish she was here to nag me, unfortunately she died when I was ten.

          • scocope

            Oh boo hoo! Trying to invoke sympathy doesn’t take away from your infantile trolling.

          • Iamnumber6

            Peter, you say that like it’s a bad thing. Polishing your gun before sex is alwsys in good taste.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Happiness is a warm gun, sex, is wet and sloppy.

          • Gleaner1

            Peter, I too am English, and I want a gun, pistol and a rifle, because our rights to defend ourselves according to what WE perceive as a threat has been removed, I too am defenceless in the face of street violence, should my daughter wish to use a spray in Brighton in her own defence, she would most likely be arrested and charged for it.
            I have been threatened with having my shot gun certificate removed from me if the police take a view that what I publish could be called “hate speech”, no verdict is required for their action, just an accusation.

          • צדקיה עמיחי

            Peter, you’re English so I’ll forgive your lack of knowledge of the 2nd Amendment. It is a RIGHT.

            It doesn’t matter WHY I want a gun, or even if I need a gun. Rosa Parks didn’t “need” to sit at the front of the bus. In a free society, one doesn’t have to demonstrate a need or desire to exercise one’s rights.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The reason people don’t need guns, in the civilized west, is because they and their forefathers picked up guns as required and used them to preserve freedom, for everyone. Kindly notice that terrorists are much inclined to attack targets where they know there is a very small likelihood of being shot back at.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Why would anyone want to own anything, gold clubs? Why pay money to poke a ball in a hole? there are many of us sho like to poke holes in paper at a distance, a gun facilitates this. Around here there are lots of creatures that one can kill and eat, as butcher shops do not retail in them, it is a do it your self grocery trip, on occasion. Even little oriental girls can have them, I have 11 rifles and four pistols, they are more interesting than a salt and pepper shaker collection. Though I do prefer flower arranging.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Flower arranging and firearms, they go together like peanut butter and jelly or beer and pizza.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            What ever tickles your tush, so to speak. Have done some beautiful work with wild flowers and Winchester model 94’s. Although I prefer the 45-70 most of the time. Even the occasional haiku to describe the effect.
            Winchester model 94
            A key to the great unknown
            Life, a dry leaf blows away

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            I’m just saying it’s an interesting and complementary choice of hobbies.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            As I cannot stand network tv or the lame stream media, living in a dismal swamp, one has to make ones own amusement. On valentine’s eve I will hunt the ever elusive wellhunyounguy, a relative of the Sasquatch.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Happy hunting. Will it be romance at gunpoint? Stay out of the bushes.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nope, will be pouncing out of a tree, or balcony on unsuspecting prey as it grazes the buffet. No point in shooting them, they are messy enough unshot.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            That was a funny haiku.
            You should really be doing stand-up comedy, maybe something like Roseanne Barr.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Thanks, have had my fill of standup improvised comedy, have you ever had to give presentations to engineers, especially reservoir ones? No matter how serious one starts out, that particular barrel of monkeys always turns everything into a three ring circus, bedlam style. The peanut gallery is running the institution.

          • Iamnumber6

            Wow! I need to go shopping. ;)
            I only have 2 rifles and 3 pistols. But I have matching concealed carry purses for each of the pistols. Do I get extra points for that?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You get one million points for having a conceal and carry card. In Canada it is extremely difficult to get a permit to carry a concealed pistol, much easier to get a phd. in quantum mechanics.

          • Richard

            Going to the store tomorrow to buy a Remington 870 Express Tactical shotgun in 12 ga.
            I’m in CA, so there are some formalities, but minor ones for someone who has no criminal past, nor one of mental problems. I have a current utility bill and my firearm safety certificate by the door, other than that I only need my state issued photo ID (driver’s license I carry all the time) and a thumb with which to leave a print. Ten days wait and I have one hell of a sweet shotgun at home.
            scocope is correct Mr. Howe, you don’t have a clue. But being British, you think you do. You as a people have been emasculated, which didn’t take much given your preference for short pants and tea and crumpets. And it happened so long ago that many of you have forgotten the difference.

  • Pavla Víšková

    A demonstration against the Islamisation of Europe, where I was and was photographed last Saturday – look at the photos. It’s from Prague – Hradcany Square. The demonstration was very at rest and there was a very decent company.

  • Dr. Doomsday

    Maybe a crowdfunding of a whole bunch of pet pigs for the city of Calais. People can keep them in their yards, roaming the streets, etc.

  • dba_vagabond_trader

    Soon as she started speaking I knew she had once been sympathetic to the muzzloids. Lady, you and your fellow citizens have allowed this. Take heed America!

  • Dr. Doomsday
  • David Ziegler

    In the USA, we never see anything about these problems in Europe. The media isn’t allowed to show what is going on. It is not talked about in newspapers. In Canada, Trudeau is going to give the country away to the ” refugees” as well. People are being told to show a welcoming behavior. Americans have said, ” no, we don’t want them here “. We are not being heard, but our concerns are being ignored. The problems are already here, and every effort is being made to keep it out of the news. As I see it, every place THEY show up turns into a hell hole! Why would any leaders want to bring THIS to their country? Why????????????????????????

    • Gleaner1

      David, I can answer your questions, please read/watch these in sequence,

      google The Kalergi plan
      LiveLeak, With Open Gates, the forced collective suicide of European…
      You Tube- Break Europe, Merkel and her migrants
      You Tube, The Enforced destruction of the Irish people has begun.

      • David Ziegler

        Thanks Gleaner1. I watched all of those videos plus a few others. There were many answers, and more questions. It looks like Europe is pretty close to being finished. What are your thoughts?

  • Gleaner1

    My sincere sympathy for this obviously honorable woman , having traveled through Calais, I confirm her story.

    The instructions have come down from the French cultural Marxists on high, like in Britain, those economic migrants are above the law, the people they predate don’t matter, preserve the cultural Marxist dogma at all costs, vive la Eurabia.

    If there is to be a reckoning, I cannot say when, but in both France and England, the time IS passing, soon it may be flight or fight, I just wish those who cower or slumber would wake UP, and prove they’re worthy of their heritage.

    Vive La Francais Libre

    • craig_oz_land

      Bought to you by your loving caring global elitists by the vilest of all people, people like Barbara Lerner Spectre.

      I think there is a resurgence of Anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we
      are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must
      take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they
      once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of
      that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going
      into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our
      leading role. But without that leading role, and without that
      transformation, Europe will not survive.
      — Barbara Lerner Spectre, IBA-News, 2010.

      • IzlamIsTyranny

        For the antisemitic retards of the world, it’s always allah about the Jews.
        If you move ur worthless, retarded butt to any islamic state dirtbag, you’ll be guaranteed to never be bothered by the scary Jews ever again.

        • Mike_W20

          He was just quoting what this woman, Spectre, said in the video.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            But he made certain that everyone knew she was Jewish, which was his point all along. As if this one Jewish woman controls all of Europe/Eurabia.

          • Mike_W20

            You are assuming that was his point: anti-Semitism.
            The Jewish people are generally very talented people with an enormous capacity for good; one only need to look at the list of Jewish Nobel prize winners as well as composers, authors and others who have been a great blessing in their societies.
            But not all people of Jewish descent are saintly and beyond criticism simply because they are Jews.
            Having an enormous capacity for good also means one has an enormous capacity for evil, if one chooses the dark side. For example, Karl Marx was of Jewish descent, as is George Soros.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Then why doesn’t he take a good long, look at the gentiles who actually control Europe/Eurabia? The Schmerkels, the Camerons, the Hollandes? Spectre isn’t a PM, I don’t even think she’s an MP. Who cares what she has to say?

          • Mike_W20

            Why do you concentrate on anti-Semitism?
            There are all sorts of leftist schmucks running the West at the moment.
            They are all equally despicable, regardless of ancestry.

          • craig_oz_land

            Mike, that’s true. The one religion that is universal and unites all globalists, imperialists, NWO, illuminati, whatever you want to call them, that religion is MONEY and it nurtures GREED, and GREED is the root of all EVIL. Many of these people like the Rotshchilds call themselves Jews, however, history shows many historical movements of so called Jews from different regions. The Temple Mount was warred against and it’s records burnt three times. Many Jews dispersed into Egypt. There is talk that people causing the problems are the Khazars who claim to be Jews, but are really faux Jews, from around the first millenia that came form North of the Black sea. They were expelled from certain areas for their Mafia type activities and were told to reform and take up a religion. They chose Judaism. Apparently they are the most skilled and effective of all Mafia types around the world. You can do a google search, plenty of reading material about them. But there are others too, not just Khazars.

          • craig_oz_land

            No, they are controlled not controllers. IzlamIsTyranny, you are terribly naive and poorly researched. You need to understand the difference between Zionism and Judaism.

            Can a Jew be an Anti-Semitic? I’m not saying it, it’s Jews that are saying it. Anti-Zionism is not the same as Anti-Semitism. Get with the program.

            True Torah Jews | Against Zionism

          • craig_oz_land

            That’s not what she is saying, she is saying she represents their views. How about providing some rebuttal instead of shooting the messenger whose message it wasn’t.

      • Mike_W20

        Apt name: Spectre.
        She obviously delights in the prospect of a future Hell in Europe.
        I hope she and her ilk meet justice some day for what they are doing.

  • joe1429

    Yes, this is going on in towns all over the eu! Congrats Donald Trump on the LANDSLIDE VICTORY IN NH!!! Go TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • We live in a dark time. We live also in a crazy time so much, that nations are on the way of self liquidation in the most literal sense: They deny the very concept of nationhood and citizenship. Not only do they voluntarily open their borders to the least appropriate human beings of this world, but they also extend their grotesquely generous welfare for the invaders and their “families” comprised of … four (!) wives. They call these invaders “refugees”, allow them to establish the so called no-go enclaves, and tolerate their violent behavior: riots, car burning, and multiple acts of terror. The most grotesque however is that they indulge acts of massive harassment and rape of Western women including teenage girls (like in Rotherham, Great Britain) – see An Idiot Guide on Basic Civic

  • Pooky

    That was gut-wrenching. What is saving us is the size of our country. It is easy to over run smaller countries.

  • IzlamIsTyranny

    France’s present, our future.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    This is the fast drop to abyss that civilizations occasionally do. Europe has become overconfident, under brained, suckered into believing socialism can do everything for everyone and is all powerful. Coupled with an outright stupid belief that all persons are and want to be equal. Equality does not happen when one segment of society is destroyed, reducing it to the status of subhumans who destroyed it. Greeks, romans and every other civilization peaked, then slid into oblivion for the same complacent reasons. Europe is entering a period of chaos that will culminate with it breaking up into a new world order, not the nicely controlled manipulated world of the intelligentsia, with a benevolent dictator, but similar to the warring states of ancient china.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      I kinda like the way the modern state of China is putting the stick on the muslums who live there and I hope they completely eradicate their islamopithecine problem.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        China has a reputation of solving problems by direct, quick and thorough means. Islam is a violent lying cult, it cannot be dealt with any other way than superior force.

  • husseinovomit

    These inbred savages have caused their brains to shrink, get dumber—and more savage. islam is a MENTAL DISEASE. They must be WIPED OUT–every one of them. No other solution!!

  • Mr Paul Middleton

    Three words: Marine Le Pen.
    In the UK: Nigel Farage. In the Netherlands: Geert Wilders. In the US: Donald Trump. If not, we’re history.

    • imwithstoopid

      Gee, wouldn’t it be great if they all got together and actually talked?

  • Dan Knight

    There was civilization in Calais? Maybe. If France was civilized, the Leftists would not force their drones and sheeple to pay for an invasion of Islamic barbarians.

  • IzlamIsTyranny

    I wonder what the Quebecois of Canada think of videos like this? Maybe they’re getting read to follow that fine Fwench tradition of surrender?

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Quebecois are a miserable bunch, they vigorously purge any symbols of religion from public places, Christianity included. Bill 94, for example

      In Quebec, it is legally required that women must remove their niqab when dealing with the government, whether a woman is accessing services or working for them. The bill has garnered criticism among wearers of the niqab and feminists alike who say that banning the niqab takes away the agency and choice from the woman. The bill has been attributed with increasing intolerance in Quebec towards women who wear the niqab.

      • IzlamIsTyranny

        I have to admire the government of Quebec for initiating that legislation. Kudos to them.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Quebec is an entity unto itself, it is very easy to love and loath it in the same emotion.

  • David

    Matt, What european countries need is a 1 Amendment! To make it legal!

  • Andy

    European countries are soon going to erupt in civil wars. Rank-and-file citizens aren’t going to keep putting up with their governments’ fascism and multiculturalism.

  • So if your government refuses to protect you, and you are seeing rapes and assaults, when do you just go ahead and defend yourself? If you are truly at the end, then perhaps you have nothing to lose? Time to find a way to get armed, legally or illegally, and build that resistance movement that your ancestors did so well 70 years ago.
    Find your inner Joan of Arc, Charles Martel, and just ask Almighty God to give you strength. I am praying for you brothers and sisters, please stand up and fight!

    • NoMoreIslam


  • putupjob

    all these people were disarmed long ago.
    how’s that working?

  • tommy mc donnell

    you can complain about the behavior of the muslims all you want but if you keep electing the leftist politicians they bring them to your country to colonize nothing will ever be done about it. islam is a totalitarian political ideology just like Marxism. these muslims are doing just what your leftist politicians brought them to your country to do. by the way do you ever think you would see that video in the democrat party-media complex?

  • Rob McDevitt

    The Islamic Republic of Calais.

  • Pray Hard

    Leftism, liberalism, political correctness and multiculturalism have been crammed down out throats for at least four or five decades. The intended end result is that we of Western Civilization have become self-loathing, passive cowards or Eloi.

  • Lysy2

    Thanks GOD and Founding fathers for 2nd A!!!!!

  • zipper

    Well, there you have it. What more needs to be said? The absolutely sickening part of all this is that, now knowing what pestilence they have visited on their country, the leaders and police are doing nothing. In fact, as this brave woman said, they are actually Aiding this migrant scum! There are enough problems in all these countries, but the a-hole politicians in Europe(and soon here) are deliberately setting the stage for an unprecedented genocide. Of course, when the people rise-up to protect their honor, property, and very lives, these same a-hole politicians will use the police(and even military) to attack THEM, instead of the migrant criminals. At that point, there will be all-out civil war, at least in the U.S.. We, unlike most of Europe, have wisely preserved our right to arms. It is always the a-hole politicians that cause the problems and seem to escape punishment. Doubt that will be the case if this horror story unfolds.

  • Andrew Rourke

    The French mentality “Le grande Nation” actually believes in Liberty for everyone. Only with a radical change of government will they take back their country.

  • Just Opinions

    Trump needs to stop swearing and insulting people and focus on getting elected. He is the only man on earth who possesses the will to keep America from suffering Europe’s (and now Canada’s) fate. But he loses his temper retweeting the New York Post, uses the F-word (offending evangelical voters) and messes around calling people “pussy”, thereby putting this important movement in disrepute.

  • guymacher

    And all of this is coming to Canada!

    • Steve

      It gets quite cold in canada and people get lost in the snow really easy.

  • Melo Gardener

    The leftist braindead hell is sleeping with the enemy of free mankind…they are the Whore of the Beast of Islam and have bred the army of Islamist Swine to destroy all civilizations of Mankind for their Illuminati genocide of free thinking peoples. Islam and their whore the Leftist braindead must be stopped and we must all stand up as this woman is doing speaking against the whores….Canada, the Diaper boy Islamist/Trudeau plans on bringing in 50,000 ISIS filth and swine onto our army bases and take over our country…Braindead baby killer Islamist Trudeau is acting only for Islamist and takes over our rights and country for these ISIS killers on our Military bases and our military is called on to serve them hand and foot..,Woe to you leftist braindead …you have sold out our country to Islam with your Liberal braindead and will rue this day of infamy for we shall all be screaming as this woman and the people of Calais that has been consumed for their fodder!!!!

  • Steve

    Ecclesiastical 3. Do not go quietly into the good night or turn the other cheek. This is the beast you fight in the former of islam. This is the onslaught of the barbarians. God will always work with those who lay down their lives for good. It’s time for heroes. Pray for inspiration Calais.

    • marhannah

      It’s time – past time – to rise-up and fight back.
      That’s what happened prior to the first Crusade; the pope called-out for men to fight. By the time they reached their destination, the goal had been lost.
      This time I would hope the goal be remembered – the innocent, protected.

      • Steve

        The young men in that town need to form a militia and take care of these intruders and lay down the law since the elected law can’t or won’t do the job.

        • marhannah

          The entire nation has to stop making life so easy/comfortable for them. There are too many red-carpets rolled out for them; living accommodations, gov’t funding/welfare, schools, etc. When immigrants came to Ellis Island years, years ago, they had to work and make-their-own-way. These so-called immigrants are treated ‘special’ because of people in the ‘higher-ups’ (politicians). Look at the condition of Europe; the ‘immigrants//refugees’ are TAKING, literally, what they want. The videos that are coming out are unbelievable!
          IF that happens, to that extent, here — it’s not going to go over all that well. People are going to snap, and I have a feeling that THAT is what ‘his highness, O, is hoping for. He just might have to pull the Martial Law card – postponed election.
          I’m reading that from so many places these days .. could it actually happen!!??

          • Steve

            I definitely agree that there’s too much welfare handouts for the refugees. I do not actually believe that they could get away with martial law enforcement here especially if people are being attacked like they are in the UK in the EU. I could be wrong but hopefully that won’t happen and even more hopefully odumber will be gone in 2016.

          • imwithstoopid

            Nonsense, the Homeland Security will become the in the borders military force aligning with any fighting military personnel that haven’t deserted rather than fight us civilians.
            Look up request for more weaponry and personal by Homeland.

          • Steve

            Doesn’t mean it will happen unless you have a crystal ball or a death wish.

          • Steve

            Odumber would be likely be taken care of promptly as in committed to a federal prison probably by the hillary witch and crew if it came to martial law and then all bets are off. Maybe they would put colonel sanders in a military prison and waterboard him until he admitted he was a spy and ted cruz would be made secretary of state to get him out of the way. Perhaps then trump would claim eminent domain of the pacific ocean and build a giant floating country and be president while hollywood would implode. If a giant asteroid doesn’t send us back to the stone age at that point (thanks be to god and allah willing) there might be an uprising of guerilla nature for survivors. Sure, it could happen but so could being the lottery winner.

            Things will undoubtedly get bad but i don’t think the agenda is to take it as far as martial law for what would be left would be chaos and unpredictable changes and that doesn’t seem to be the goal of the socialists. They want conformity and slavery through “progressive” change which is to say controlled slavery. The question will be where will we go to get our tattoos and daily sessions of dumb down in the gun free, iphone free, and think free zones.

  • Blogengeezer

    Northern Europe learned long ago by harsh history, that they Did have Devine protection. It was of course taken for granted during prosperity.

    It was willingly discarded, with the International ‘Progressive’ movement of Diversity, perpetual dependency addiction of self serving secular humanism in a party atmosphere took it’s place.

    Christianity,… deemed ‘too restrictive’ was demonized. In it’s place a Spiritual Vacuum was created.

    As the Spiritual vacuum dropped to ‘absolute’, and Christianity became willingly discarded, Abortion [slaughtering the unborn results of sexual lust] was embraced, limiting indigenous birthrates, In effect removing the Traditional Family structures proven historically sustainable.

    Islam by natural tendencies… Laws.. of four wives + eight children by each wife, ..added to the ongoing sexual ‘conquests’ expected, rushed in.
    Demographics ‘Shift’ accomplishes within one generation, what dwindling weaponry, by law, fails to sustain… by design.

    ‘Toast’ is the result of cooked/burned bread, slice by slice…

    Northern Europe and the fawningly ‘Progressive’ USA will of course excitedly follow. The historic cycle of lemmings..

  • Deathbringer

    Reminds me of the German girl here:

  • ermom

    How brave of her. Shame on the open borders crowd, the EU so-called ‘elites’ giving in to the hijrah, Europe is dead, and with Canada, and our ignorant or complicit gov’t, we’re next.

  • marhannah

    ‘It’ must be stopped. This is a matter of survival; it’s either them … or it’s us.
    ‘It’ often brings up the era of the Crusades, but fails to understand that had it not been for the aggression/warring of izlam/moslems, there would have been no need for the pope of that era to gather an army of men to fight against the jihadist aggressors.

    All things considered, maybe the current pope ought to do something about the current izlamic aggression. If not the pope, then other representatives of various Christian denominations. However, this time I would hope they get-it-right.
    There aren’t any other options anymore; either the world stands-up and fights back, or izlam will slaughter, conquer, and reign supreme. Will we all become dhimmis?

    Turning-the-other-cheek does not make-for a good person or Christian, but does guarantee the demise of the ‘unbelievers.’. The very act of ‘turning-the-cheek’ does not apply in times of war; it’s meant for something entirely different and is too often misread and wrongly applied. No one should ever have to be a doormat.

    Do we lay down and take their abuse, and subsequent invasion, or do we stand up and fight for our very existence. The choice is up to us.

  • De Doc

    “The Camp of the Saints”, a 1973 work written by French author Jean Respail was eerily prescient of what is now befalling Western Europe.

  • Frosty Wooldridge

    The Islamic religion-political system: a highly emotionally infectious, contagious, repugnant and debauched ethnic disease masquerading as a religion– added to a diabolical Sharia Law mandate. It warps minds of all adherents and forces them toward brutal, violent, cruel, vicious and insane behavior toward men, women and children. It creates suicide maniacs and insensate intellectual morons. Humans under its spell lose their sensibilities, rational values, dignity and minds. They resort to wanton acts of murder, cruelty, perversion and barbarism. Because of mass immigration into first world countries, this insane religious disease floods into every corner of the world—and with it a complete destruction of women’s rights, children’s rights, intellectual rights, men’s rights, free speech, free choice of religions, free choice of spouse, killing of gays, honor killings of women and a complete loss of humanity by Islam’s adherents. If not stopped by the willpower and force of first world countries, it will ravage the free world back into the Dark Ages. Frosty Wooldridge, six continent world bicycle traveler

  • Save Europe

    Doing the ferry crossing from Dover to Calais every month, I can honestly state that Calais is not particularly aesthetically pleasing to the eye – nonetheless the addition of economic migrants to the area has rapidly degenerated the town, per se, and the locals have my genuine sympathy. The sprawling and ever increasing mass of tents near the harbour is a blot on the area.

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  • Dictatorship is may be for good but almost all of the world’s famous dictators are known as worst dictators and leaders because of their cruelty and bad ideas. Rather than good dictators are known as Evil Dictators now a day. You must have heard about Hitler? Yes, so almost all of worlds dictators followed and follow him. So here us the list of top 10 worst dictators of all time. We have compiled this list after a quick research and tried to give you basic details of each one of below. Here we go,

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