News Ticker >
[ November 20, 2017 ]

SAVAGES: Woman accused of adultery is caned in Sharia punishment in front of cheering mob...

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Pamela Geller for Russian television Channel One

[ November 20, 2017 ]

UK: Muslim teen accused of planning ISIS-inspired jihad massacre probed security at Justin Bieber Cardiff...

[ November 20, 2017 ]

France Seeks to Ban Muslim Street Prayers in Paris After Clashes

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Germany Sees Massive Spike in Stabbings

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Robert Spencer: Inside Higher Ed Thinks Rational Discussion Is Aggressive and Dangerous

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Trump Administration Threatens to Shut Down Palestinian Office in D.C.

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Libya: At Slave Auctions, Muslim Smugglers Are Selling Off Migrants For As Little As $400

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Geller Report Exclusive: Pakistani Christian Facing Death on “Blasphemy” Charges Pleads for Help

[ November 20, 2017 ]

Liar-in-Chief: Obama Lied About Al Qaeda Strength Before Election

Pamela Geller, American Thinker: Happy Halal Thanksgiving

62

The idea that most meat sold in your supermarket or grocery store is halal is an outrage. Much of it isn't labeled halal, though it was slaughtered and the Islamic ritual prayer was made over the meat. I don't know about you, but I don't want to eat halal. Not a bite — and yet this is being shoved down the throats of Americans wthout their knowledge.

We will fight this. We will fight for legislation for labelling. Join our Facebook page Boycott Butterball Turkey

At butterball

Happy Halal Thanksgiving Pamela Geller, American Thinker

Did you know that the turkey you’re going to enjoy on Thanksgiving Day this Thursday is probably halal? If it’s a Butterball turkey, then it certainly is – whether you like it or not.

In my book Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance, I report at length on the meat industry’s halal scandal: its established practice of not separating halal meat from non-halal meat, and not labeling halal meat as such. And back in October 2010, I reported more little-noted but explosive new revelations: that much of the meat in Europe and the United States is being processed as halal without the knowledge of the non-Muslim consumers who buy it.

I discovered that only two plants in the U.S. that perform halal slaughter keep the halal meat separated from the non-halal meat, and they only do so because plant managers thought it was right to do so. At other meat-packing plants, animals are slaughtered following halal requirements, but then only a small bit of the meat is actually labeled halal.

Now here is yet more poisonous fruit of that scandal.

A citizen activist and reader of my website AtlasShrugs.com wrote to Butterball, one of the most popular producers of Thanksgiving turkeys in the United States, asking them if their turkeys were halal. Wendy Howze, a Butterball Consumer Response Representative, responded: “Our whole turkeys are certified halal.”

In a little-known strike against freedom, yet again, we are being forced into consuming meat slaughtered by means of a barbaric, torturous and inhuman method: Islamic slaughter.

Halal slaughter involves killing the animal by cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar”—in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds. Many Christians, Hindus or Sikhs and Jews find it offensive to eat meat slaughtered according to Islamic ritual (although Jews are less likely to be exposed to such meat, because they eat kosher).

Still others refuse to do so on principle: why should we be forced to conform to Islamic norms? It’s Islamic supremacism on the march, yet again.

Non-Muslims in America and Europe don’t deserve to have halal turkey forced upon them in this way, without their knowledge or consent. So this Thanksgiving, fight for your freedom. Find a non-halal, non-Butterball turkey to celebrate Thanksgiving this Thursday. And write to Butterball and request, politely but firmly, that they stop selling only halal turkeys, and make non-halal turkeys available to Americans who still value our freedoms.

Write to Stephanie Styons at Butterball Corporate: sstyons@merrellgroup.com. Also, the Butterball website for plant locations lists whole turkeys as being produced at their North Carolina and Arkansas plants. So please write to Butterball, LLC in North Carolina: 1628 Garners Chapel Road, Mt. Olive, NC 28365. Call 919-658-6743. And in Arkansas: Butterball, 1200 N. College Avenue, Huntsville, AR 72740. Call 479-738-2151. 

Across this great country, on Thanksgiving tables nationwide, infidel Americans are unwittingly going to be serving halal turkeys to their families this Thursday. Turkeys that are halal certified — who wants that, especially on a day on which we are giving thanks to G-d for our freedom? I wouldn’t knowingly buy a halal turkey — would you? Halal turkey, slaughtered according to the rules of Islamic law, is just the opposite of what Thanksgiving represents: freedom and inclusiveness, neither of which are allowed for under that same Islamic law.

The same Islamic law that mandates that animals be cruelly slaughtered according to halal requirements also teaches hatred of and warfare against unbelievers, the oppression of women, the extinguishing of free speech, and much more that is inimical to our freedom. Don’t support it on this celebration of freedom. Join our Facebook group, ‘Boycott Butterball’.

Don’t buy a Butterball turkey for Thanksgiving.

Pamela Geller's shocking new book, "FATWA: HUNTED IN AMERICA" is now available on Amazon. It's Geller's tell all, her story - and it's every story - it's what happens when you stand for freedom today. Buy it. Now. Here.

  • This is the process: WARNING !!! very nasty stuff…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQOKQ__3vQw
    So how come PETA is not after this. If this is occurring in most plants in the US.
    Kosher is basically the same process but where it differs is the way the three cuts are made. Single motion, one cut with a specific knife. Personally I think that is also cruel but nowhere what is seen in these videos showing Halal.
    Australian TV covered Halal in Inodnesia … not for the faint hearted.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYoNcCH-h10
    Its morbid, they are hitting, whipping and torturing the animals.

  • Brian

    You’re wrong to characterize halal slaughter as being inherently “barbaric, torturous and inhuman;” it isn’t. Abuse of animals (as shown in PETA videos) is wrong, but that’s another issue. Those who would ban or restrict halal slaughter will do the same for kosher slaughter in the name of even-handedness. Please rethink the issue.

  • fred

    Halal meat is killed in the name of Allah–no thanks. If necessary, I’ll eat vegetarian and pork for the rest of my life.
    Costco in Chicago sells hallal lamb that’s unmarked. Got to zabiha.com to see where it can be found, and avoid it.

  • fred

    Also, there are tons of videos of nauseous halal slaughter on the web, and they don’t come from the wackos at PETA.

  • Frak

    Eat meat that is certified Kosher and you don’t have to worry about halal… ;)

  • KKKK

    wishing a Happy Thanksgiving to you, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and all the resisting-Islam leaders. i certianly will enjoy the season.

  • dee dee

    We need a non-halal certification??
    Unbelievable–well at least out here in the country
    we still have a turkey farmer or two! Who isn’t sick and fed
    up with the creeping sharia?!

  • frogman

    Piece by piece bit by bit our civilization is being replaced by theirs. Or as Pamela calls it, the “Islamazation of America,” continues unabated. What else is going on behind our backs?!

  • Tanstaafl

    Okay, it’s just going to have to be pork for me. I wonder if turkey is halal to eat for Muslims. There were no turkeys back in Arabia in 600 AD. Unless you count Mohammed and his followers. Is it halal for a turkey to eat a turkey?

  • frogman

    Uh… can I get fries with that halal hamburger?

  • CGW

    I called Linda (she would not give me her name or extension number at Butterball because she doesn’t want to get a lot of phone calls personally) at Butterball and she told me repeatedly that the turkeys are not conscious when the cutting of the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein take place, but that the animals are rendered completely unconscious before any cutting takes place. I pointed out that this is not acceptable for “halal” certification but she did not agree that the animals needed to be conscious when slaughtered to be designated halal. She said that “a tape is played” containing the offending words during the process. When I asked her why this is done, she said that they recently started shipping turkey to the Middle East and that this is being done for their muslim consumers overseas. When I pointed out that the US is their major market and that we should not be subject to the dictates of a minority religion in our food choices, she agreed.
    Please call 1-800-BUTTERBALL and register complaints! Let’s tie up their phone lines and disrupt their holiday Customer Service.

  • longshanks

    Sorry Brian, I don’t care to eat anything that has been sacrificed to Allah. Especially when its done behind my back.

  • ” I wonder if turkey is halal to eat for Muslims”
    They named a country from them? ;)

  • At 1-800-BUTTERBALL the customer service rep was very nice and took note of my complaint – said they’re getting a LOT of them! YES the whole turkeys are NOT labelled but they ARE halal, and the customer service reps are logging and escalating every complaint because Butterball corporate is starting to feel the heat!
    Keep it up, y’all!
    We deserve to know so we can choose for ourselves whether or not to eat halal. All Kosher food is labelled as such and halal should be too!
    Let the market decide whether people want halal, by telling the people the truth so they can decide for themselves!

  • Florida Infidel

    I’m planning a vegetarian Thanksgiving at the moment, and will be calling 1-800-Butterball today to politely but very firmly let them know why I will not be buying their products. From now on, I plan to stick to only pork and fish for meat, and an otherwise vegetarian diet. Vegetarianism is better for my rheumatoid arthritis anyway. BUT, that is still no excuse for meat processors in this country to engage in “stealth halal”, no excuse at all! Those of us who don’t want halal meat should not be misled (by false labeling) into buying it! I want no part of that horrifying cruelty, to say nothing of the complete lack of hygiene or any sort of standards of cleanliness or proper sanitation in halal slaughter! Thanks for this eye-opening post, Pamela! I will write to my Congressman for legislation to ban halal slaughter (as halal slaughter is in complete violation of the humane slaughter laws and cleanliness standards in the US) in our country. To me, it is not enough to label the meat halal. We should allow no halal meat in this country. It is processed in an extremely cruel and unsanitary manner. It must be banned. How are we allowing this? We must stop it, and stop it now. Until I can know the meat I am eating is not halal, I’m not eating it.

  • I don’t buy ANY factory-farmed meat. We will be eating a local, free-range turkey this year and local, pasture-raised lamb.
    If a food label DOES say halal, I won’t buy it. It does not mean the same as a “kosher” label. I won’t knowingly eat food that was prepared under a blessing to the moon-god.

  • annonymous

    If and when you call the meat dept at your local market to inquire about this, make sure you let them know you do NOT want halal meats. I’ve had situations where I call and the guy who answers has to ask someone else for the answer to my question. I’ve come to realize that in the process, the person he goes to may have the impression I’m calling because I want halal meat. So I go out of my way to make it clear I do NOT want such meat and if they sell it I expect it to be clearly labeled.

  • Patti

    The only way to be sure is to know where the meat came from PRIOR to entering the shop or supermarket. Maybe someone could write legislation that uses the USDA to enforce a non-halal law. In addition to halal being horrificly inhumane it also appears to be completely unsanitary. Let’s make this a public health issue. That could be the angle to attack this problem from. It needs to be prohibited from being offered for sale from retailers to the general public. The USDA inspects slaughter houses all over the country, why couldnt they close down halal slaughter houses if they had the legal authority to do so?

  • Patti

    I can’t be satisfied with just labelling. I want it stopped altogether.

  • Mama Grizzly

    May I suggest buying from small family-owned operations that aren’t involved in this nonsense–specifically:
    http://www.marysturkeys.com/
    and
    http://www.diestelturkey.com/products_the_hh.htm
    Better meat anyway. You can find these at Natural Grocers, Vitamin Cottage, Whole Foods, etc.

  • Christine

    Here’s my letter:
    To the management at Butterball:
    I have heard that you are selling turkeys that have been slaughtered using the “halal” method. I have also heard that you are selling these turkeys in America unlabeled. This offends me completely, as I believe it is inhumane and the practice belongs in a third world country, if it must exist at all.
    I am also quite aware of what Islam is all about, and I want absolutely NOTHING to do with it.
    I am a CHRISTIAN, and I would never eat specifically prepared “halal” food.
    I don’t know how much you know about Islam, but here’s a little introduction for you, and it is NOTHING like other religions. In fact, it shouldn’t even be classified as a “religion” at all. It is a cult, with a narcissist, rapist, pedophile murderer named Mohammed at it’s head….all documented fact. The Koran is not a cohesively written story, the chapters in it are ordered by length, with the longest being the first, so you have either be a historian to put in order, or buy one where that has already been done. Here’s a couple of verses from the Koran for you:
    5:51- “O you who believe! Do not take Jews and Christians as friends; for they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend,
    then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”
    9:29- “Fight those who do not believe in allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what allah and his apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgement of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.”
    Butterball and many other people here in America have no idea what they have let inside our borders.
    I would appreciate it if you would stop killing animals in the “halal” fashion, if you want to do what’s good for America.

  • So whatever happened to Charles Johnson’s opposition to animal cruelty all of a sudden?
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39475/comments/#cc9378067
    He is of course defending halal slaughter and mocks Pam for highlighting the nasty reality that indeed this cruel stuff is taking place at abbatoirs in the USA.

  • annonymous

    Brian makes an excellent point.

  • Winston Smith III

    Once again, Follow the Money!!!
    …it boggles the mind….apparently Butterball used to be owned by Smithfield of the famed Pork Products…but in 2010 it was sold off….I wonder who actually owns it now?
    http://hamptonroads.com/2010/09/smithfield-foods-agrees-sell-butterball-stake-175m
    ..even more bizarre, the date of the article…Sept.11, 2010….

  • When*Pigs8Fly

    I guess it wouldn’t matter much if you didn’t care that the animals were tortured to death or that the meat was blessed (cursed) in the name of a foreign god or that much money was being funneled to muslims who were funneling it to lord knows where. Nah, nothing much of concern to a freedom , animal , god loving person. /sarc off

  • Hilarious.
    Back in the mid-80s, anti-semites railing against the “Kosher Tax” was a big thing on the Usenet groups.
    Pam, this sounds exactly like those posts, with the word “kosher” crossed out and “halal” written in in crayon.

  • How’s that, Steve? This is not even remotely like that anti-Jewish canard.
    I don’t want to eat halal meat. It’s just that simple. All Butterball Turkeys are halal. Meat should be labeled as such and people should be given the choice.
    A couple of million Muslims out of 325,000,000 million Americans and most meat is halal and not labeled? Why?
    Don’t be a tool. Do your homework.

  • Mildred Smith

    Rub your Butterball with a little bacon fat and your turkey will no longer be halal. Problem solved.

  • Chris LA

    Butterball turkeys are “halal” – meaning they have been slaughtered according to Islamic religious rites. Muslims are idol worshippers. Five times a day, they pray towards Mecca, no matter where they may be living. The penultimate religious act for Muslims is to make a pilgrimage to the Grand Mosque in Mecca. They circle around this structure called the ka’ba, which contains nothing religious except a black stone about the size of a football. Muslims pay homage to this black stone by kissing it, following the example of their Prophet Muhammad in the 7th Century. (See Bukhari, Vol. 2, No. 667)
    The first Christians were Jews who were adamantly opposed to any form of idolatry. One of their prophets had warned the Jews, “What’s the use of an idol? It is only something that man has made, and it tells you nothing but lies. What good does it do for its maker to trust it – a god that can’t even talk! You are doomed!” (Habakkuk 2:18) Later, when “Gentiles” were being converted to Christianity, there were only four rules they were required to follow: ”eat no food that has been offered to idols, eat no blood, eat no animal that has been strangled, and keep yourselves from sexual immorality.” (Acts 15:29) Furthermore, the Apostle Paul instructed Christians, “But if someone tells you, ‘This food was offered to idols,’ then do not eat that food. . . .” (I Corinthians 10:28) As a consequence, Jews and Christians cannot eat halal turkeys because they have been “offered to idols” by means of the Islamic prayer recited over them – “Bismillah allahu akbar.”
    Butterball brand turkeys are a well-known brand in the United States, but sadly, that brand name could be universally associated with the halal ritual of offering the turkeys to the Islamic idol, and thereby making them unacceptable to Jews and Christians. Producers, merchants, and consumers should be aware.

  • craig

    i dont know about you, but, IM EATING TURKEY. also ham, beef, beans, and whatever else i decide. i wont allow a religion or faith to ruin the thanksgiving holiday for me.

  • Felsen Stark

    These companies must understand that they themselves are tarnishing their own brands. They need to know how offensive their actions are. Profitability is the language they understand.

  • CGW

    Exactly, Felsen. I always withhold my business from any muslim/dhimmi/islamic-compliant enterprises, and I make it clear to them exactly why. I have found a lot of support at the local level – once you make suppliers and consumers aware of what’s happening, they often do the right thing. I like to hit them where it really hurts – in the pocketbook. Nothing makes them respond more expeditiously.
    It’s the ultimate self-expression.

  • Mary

    Eventually, to enforce Sharia law, Butterball (and other companies) will ONLY have Muslim butchers to slaughter the animals halal. U.S. citizens (non-Muslims) need to be aware that they can file complaints with the EEOC for religious discrimination (i.e., being fired or not hired because they are non-Muslim butchers) and the EEOC is obliged to investigate. We need to be willing to stand up for our Constitutionally protected rights or they will be taken from us.

  • If you already got a BB turkey before you knew, I recommend de-islamizing it by stuffing it with ham and topping it with bacon. you don’t want to waste food that you already paid for, but I bet BB will see a decline in their sales of Christmas turkeys!
    Linked here:
    http://zillablog.marezilla.com/2011/11/we-no-longer-have-creeping-sharia-its.html

  • CGW

    I object, in principle, to having my food sacrificed to a Satanic entity.
    If you are a believer, simply reverse the “spell” by praying over your Thanksgiving meal and dedicating it to whichever benevolent entity in which you believe. But Zilla’s idea sounds like a plan to me; not to mention the fact that it’s tasty!

  • Someone Who Will Be Enjoying a Turkey No Matter It’s Religion.

    Man, this comment section is hilarious!
    Honestly folks, you’re not going to be converted to Islam by eating a turkey that was prayed over. That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve heard today. Hahaha.
    And really, if you’re so upset by how ~inhumanely~ these animals are slaughtered, then perhaps you need to rethink your stance on normal factory farming. I hope you don’t buy genetically modified pork or get your poultry from a factory that keeps their chickens in awful conditions. Though I’m sure if the meat was blessed by a priest it would be OK! This whole thing is hypocritical and it shows just how ignorant some of my fellow countrymen and women are.
    ~DEY TUOK R FREDUM TERKEY!~

  • Lefty Pinko Communist Queer

    Coca-Cola is also Halal. As are the vast majority of processed foods sold here in the good ole US of A. You guys should also start a campaign against them and can research the particular brands here:
    http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/products_list.html.

  • Warren

    To us non believers what words are said over the turkey matters not. But that this is part of the islamization of America is another mater. Also it is important that sanitary conditions be maintained.

  • Marc

    Just to let you guys know, if you ban halal slaughter you also ban kosher slaughter.
    The ritual differs, but both involve cutting with a non serrated knife and letting the animal bleed out.
    If you try and ban the halal type of slaughter it will affect kosher food as well.
    The Netherlands is contemplating banning halal slaughter since they consider it inhumane but it has met with a lot of complaints from the jewish communities there.

  • John

    It was Christ’s Turkey before the offered it up. Its still Christ’s Turkey for those who believe. Don’t let doubt sneak into you and have fear scare you. Even though things like this may pop up, don’t be controlled by their bit. Let them run amuck themselves, you are all protected, for you are new. Peace be within you, always….

  • MTeg

    @Someone… – “The most ignorant thing” you’ve heard all day, is your own presumptions…
    This article points out just one more avenue in which the US, like much of the world, is submitting to Islam. And it’s ironic that the word “islam” is arabic for “submission” when, as much of the world sees things, it’s the non-Muslim world that is being forced/scared into submitting to them.
    But *you* don’t have a problem with Muslim ideologies being pushed down our throats (yours too, whether or not you care to notice) – so naturally there’s “nothing to see here… move along.” Fellow countryman indeed. Consider believing in something other than yourself. You aren’t as great as you think you are.

  • Fred Grumbly

    You’re ALL in trouble. All leading pacifier manufacturers pray to Skeletor while they are making them.

  • CGW

    Grumbly, the issue is labeling. We have the right to make food-purchasing decisions based on objections to the method of slaughter, especially if we consider it to be barbaric or inhumane. Appeasing musloids by simply acquiescing to their barbarism without giving the majority of society – and we *are* the majority – the ability to accept or reject certain practices with regard our own moral and ethical standards denies basic consumer rights.
    The company is free to employ halal slaughter methods, musloids are free to purchase halal products, but we are/were being forced to purchase and consume food products without the disclosure necessary to make an informed decision. With efforts such as this one, that is changing.

  • MMb

    I will never buy another Butterball and once my family finds out about this, neither will they.
    At least Kosher foods are marked Kosher and give me the choice to buy or not.

  • Jeffrey

    You morons. Halal and Kosher dietary laws have the same Old Testament source (throw in Ital for good measure). A bird slaughtered Kosher is the same as a bird slaughtered Halal, regardless of what meaningless words are used in the process.
    A better question for you white bread idiots; why do you bother with crappy factory farmed Butterballs to begin with?

  • The local ABC affiliate in Cincinnati reported this story last night on the news. They asked a representative from Butterball for a comment and said that “All Butterball turkeys were slaughtered according USDA standards.” The TV station did not elaborate on what those standards were so I looked them up on the USDA web site and found this:
    “The USDA has had a policy on Halal labeling in effect since 1996. Halal requirements are not difficult to meet, and the USDA believes that any American slaughterhouse should be able to comply with the new Halal policy. The general requirements for Halal slaughter state that the animal must be humanely treated en route to and at the slaughterhouse. The throat must be slit in a certain way, while the word “Allah” (God) is said. ”
    I posted a story about this on my blog because no one has substantiated the rumor about what the USDA said about the slaughter invocation to Allah.
    Wednesday, November 23, 2011
    This Thanksgiving the Pilgrims are turning over in their graves.
    http://oldironsides-thesilentmajority.blogspot.com/2011/11/this-thanksgiving-pilgrims-are-turning.html

  • Hooter

    Thanks for the heads up, going to baptize that bird in the sink, and instead of rubbing the bird’s skin down in olive oil, I’m going to lay BACON strips all over that sucker… Next year go hunting and shoot my own bird….

  • CGW

    Family has all been notified. No one is buying butterball.

  • Ewan Cummins

    How is this any different than meat products labelled kosher?

  • steveeboy

    yes!
    halal meat is barbaric because when it is halal slaughter the animal is killed ” by cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out”
    but kosher meet is civilized because when it is kosher slaughter the animal is “slaughtered by a trained individual (a shochet) using a special method of slaughter, shechita (Deuteronomy 12:21). Among other features, shechita slaughter severs the jugular vein, carotid artery, esophagus and trachea in a single continuous cutting movement with an unserrated, sharp knife.”
    jeeze you people are pathetic and stupid.

  • CGW

    Hey, steveboy . . . it seems that YOU are the stupid and pathetic one, as is obvious from your reading comprehension problem. The issue is LABELING. We have the right as consumers to have full disclosure about the products that we are purchasing, whether halal or kosher. The difference is that kosher products are labeled as such (giving us the choice) whereas these halal turkeys are not. Understand now, turkey-boy?

  • Arnie Fishman

    to be honest people, its not the technique of killing the bird that offends me–its the words spoken over this turkey as was mentioned in the article. this turkey is given over to Allah…now listen, islamic murderers and terrorists who kill christians and jews around the world are using the same name to slaughter both turkey and indvididuals…its satanic and must be stopped. Islam must be stopped from taking over America or eventually there will be our blood running down the sewers with the turkeys.

  • sabrina

    You do realize that Muslims can eat kosher meat right? Because its pretty much the same thing – humane treatment of the animal, cleanliness ensured, and blessed in the name of God. This labeling issue is ridiculous as well. Halal and kosher meat is ALWAYS labelled because it costs the company more to get the certification and ensure that the guidelines are followed and so of course they are going to advertise this so that consumers looking for Halal and Kosher products know that they can buy their product.
    It doesn’t matter how much you complain. Its not going to change the stance of the company. Why? Because there are so many others that will willingly step up and provide Halal/Kosher meat to the millions of consumers.
    Also…you realize that Bismallah translates to “In the name of Allah” and Allah just means God? Christians in Arab countries refer to God as “Allah” too. It’s just language.
    As for the comments about Islam being “satanic” or “idol worship”? LMAO. Just wow. Direct contradiction to the religion and all it stands for but who needs facts?
    They are laughing at your stupidity. Get over your anger and educate yourselves please. There’s nothing wrong with standing against something but at least know what you are talking about, then maybe someone will take you seriously.

  • tfb

    I called Butterball and “she” was kind of snide, and said USDA did not require them to label whether or not it was halal or not. So I said “well the bottom line will require you to label it!”.
    The idea that the same words are said while sawing off Christians’ heads as slicing the necks of animals for food, is GROTESQUE.

  • tfb

    http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/products_list.html.
    Gee the list of halal products has been removed?! So how are they going to inform muslims of what’s halal or not if Americans reject halal once they see it on the label?
    Beheading Christians and Jews is halal too, just envision that when you see the word “halal” on a label and wooops, there goes the appetite! Gross.
    I read somewhere that most muslim meat shop operations are filthy on a bacteriological level anyway.
    I think this “getting the word out” is highly effective. Americans are repulsed by what halal means in terms of koranic killings of nonmuslims and torture of animals and dirty food preparation conditions. But muslims need “halal” on the label or on websites to know what to eat. The next step is to require only muslim butches and food workers, usual litigation jihad stuff.
    I think “halal” which means filth and torture, has a PR problem?

  • tfb

    OK wait I found their “list” on another page
    http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/halal-haram-mushbooh_ingredients.html
    but whoever wrote it is very stupid
    “dry alcohol” is banned lol, ethanol evaporates to nothing
    “nucleotides” are banned, lol, they think yeast is grown on alcohol, whereas yeast makes alcohol from sugars, and nucleotides are in everything, including plants (duh! they contain DNA/RNA too!)
    who ARE these idiots? jeez louise

  • Dinah

    You realize that it’s more humane than standard slaughterhouse practices, right?
    If you truly have an issue with the treatment of the animal, educate yourselves on slaughterhouse practices. Routine checks show intense abuse and torture, and 3/4 of the cows that go through slaughter are still conscious as they are being dismembered. Sows are chained&caged while giving birth, and frequently chew the bars on their cage until their teeth fall out, or chew off their own legs or tails out of stress. The entire meat industry is filled with disgusting mistreatment of living beings. If you want to nit-pick about the biblical legitimacy of your meat, how about you live the rest of your life according to the religion you claim? The fact that illegal immigrants make up to 95.7% of slaughterhouse workforce doesn’t stop you from eating meat. The fact that animals are scalded alive, dipped in ammonia&cbleach to kill the remaining bacteria & remove pus that antibiotics couldn’t destroy doesn’t stop you from eating meat. Pigs and cows being subjected to torture such as electric shock to their eyes, in their ears/genitals/anuses, being pulled from trucks by hooks lodged into their anuses or legs, beaten, kicked, and abused for fun… this doesn’t stop any of you from questioning the food on your plate. But someone killing it quicker without the torture, saying “to allah” instead of ” to god” bothers you enough to stop your consumption of it? You realize the word we translated as “god” from hebrew is the same exact word that translates to “allah” in arabic, yeah? Get a grip. If you’re going to have conviction, have conviction, but at least remove your head from your ass long enough to get enough oxygen to think things through.

  • fred lapides

    WTF! a turkey is a a turkey. You didn’t kill it but it got killed. You are simply anti_Arab and so make a big thing of the way animals get killed. Ps: halal is also kosher. Vegans would oppose killing any animals for food–but you focus on Muslims)_…tiresome.

  • Jaan Kuum

    All kosher meats are by default also Halal which is why Muslims also buy kosher products. Are some against halal because she thinks the 9/11 terrorists kept halal, but they did not. The 9/11 terrorists were videotaped drinking ALCOHOL, WHICH IS NOT HALAL, in a bar the night before, casts doubt on their Muslim faith. Let Jews, Muslims and Seventh Day Adventists keep Kosher or Halal if they wish. LIVE AND LET LIVE. STOP THE HATE.

  • Jaan

    Halal turkey is no different from Kosher Turkey, both are ritually slaughtered with a knife cutting the neck. Nobody is complaining about Kosher Turkey ? If Pamela Geller is criticizing Halal and not Kosher, then she is being hypocritical. If Pamela Geller is criticizing Kosher slaugher, then she is going against her own Jewish faith, and has made herself an enemy of the Jewish people along with the Muslim people. I keep Kosher, I do not eat pork or shellfish, according to the bible. The more Halal and Kosher vendors there are, the more places where I can eat kosher-halal beef franks. That’s why I suppose both Kosher & Halal. The story of Hannukah is how Antiochas tried to force Jewish people to eat pork or else suffer the death penalty. Maccabees rose up and with God’s help, defeated these pagan Greeks. Why then is Pamela Geller, who is supposed to be Jewish, so rabidly against those people who want to keep Kosher? Is Pamala Geller on the side with the heroic Maccabees or on the side of the Greek pagans?

  • Jean, read the article. Back away from the keyboard.
    A lot of halal meat is being sold unlabeled.
    In kosher slaughter, the Rabbi offers up a prayer of thanksgiving to Hashem at the end of the day for both the provision of food and the ability to complete a mitzvot. The animal is never offered to Hashem as a sacrifice.
    In halal slaughter, each and every animal is offered in prayer as a sacrifice to allah (the “bismillah” – in the name of allah akbar). Some imams are so lax as to play a tape recording of the prayer on the kill line as they sleep in the office. But each animal is a sacrifice to an idol which is completely different from the concept or prayer in kosher slaughter. So there is no question in halal slaughter that non-muslims would consider it food sacrificed to idols.
    All halal meats should labeled. That’s the issue. Period. If you were who you pretend to be, you would agree wholeheartedly.
    Again, the bottom line is that without the labeling, there is no way to no for sure whether the meat you are buying is halal or not.

  • In kosher slaughter, the Rabbi offers up a prayer of thanksgiving to Hashem at the end of the day for both the provision of food and the ability to complete a mitzvot. The animal is never offered to Hashem as a sacrifice.

Pin It on Pinterest