[ April 24, 2024 ]
So now we know. The Trump administration forced Israel to remove security measures from the Temple Mount after the slaughter of Israeli police officers. Terrorism wins. Shame on Trump.
A couple of quick items: are senior members of the Trump administration so clueless that they allow phones or recording equipment into an off the record meeting? Worse still, the meeting was prefaced by a leak advisory. Concern was expressed at the outset of the meeting about leaking information from the very meeting the leaked audio came from.
Was it a White House intern who leaked it? Congressional? Which Congressman/woman?
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“This town is full of leakers and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them,” Patru said. “If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core.”
So what precautions did these clowns take?
Kushner discussed in detail the U.S.’s dealings in working with Israel and Palestine after two Israeli guards were killed at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Kushner noted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu got “beaten up” in the press after metal detectors were placed at the entrance — which he referred to as “not an irrational thing to do.”
“So ultimately we were able to work with them, and we were able to get the Israelis to take down to the different forms of surveillance that the Jordanians were okay with,” Kushner revealed. “And we talked with the Palestinians the whole time to try to get their viewpoint on it.”
We now know it was Trump pressure that forced the Israelis to remove gun detectors from the Temple Mount after a jihadi opened fire and killed two Israeli policemen there.
Jared Kushner spoke to congressional interns during an off-the-record summer series on Monday, and may have shared some insider information on how he negotiates with the Middle East.
A recording of Kushner’s Q&A session with interns obtained by WIRED reveals answers the adviser gave relative to his handling peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians — including a moment where he offered the admission that “there may be no solution” regarding the Middle East conflict.
In his White House role, Kushner has been tasked with spearheading Middle East peace negotiations, revamping the government’s technology systems and looking at criminal justice reform and the opioid crisis as well. The Middle East, though, has been Kushner’s most publicly time-consuming duty — and has sent him to Iraq, Ramallah and Jerusalem since January.
The inherently delicate nature of foreign policy discussions involving Palestine and Israel makes discussing this subject with anyone without proper security clearance a tricky task. Before he began speaking, Deputy staff director Member Services, Outreach & Communications Katie Patru offered a warning to the assembled audience.
“This town is full of leakers and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them,” Patru said. “If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core.”
Kushner discussed in detail the U.S.’s dealings in working with Israel and Palestine after two Israeli guards were killed at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Kushner noted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu got “beaten up” in the press after metal detectors were placed at the entrance — which he referred to as “not an irrational thing to do.”
“So ultimately we were able to work with them, and we were able to get the Israelis to take down to the different forms of surveillance that the Jordanians were okay with,” Kushner revealed. “And we talked with the Palestinians the whole time to try to get their viewpoint on it.”
Here are a few highlights from the transcript of Jared Kushner’s remarks WIRED provided:
“…I think you need to be able to probe people in private for them to have the confidence that it’s not going to be used against them, and that it’s not going to leak out in the press, which would be very, very hurtful. That’s been a big advantage, which has allowed us to really have a lot of very interesting conversations.”
“So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know… I’m sure everyone that’s tried this has been unique in some ways, but again we’re trying to follow very logically. We’re thinking about what the right end state is. And we’re trying to work with the parties very quietly to see if there’s a solution. And there may be no solution, but it’s one of the problem sets that the president asked us to focus on. So we’re going to focus on it and try to come to the right conclusion in the near future.”
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A recording of Kushner’s Q&A session with interns obtained by WIRED reveals answers the adviser gave relative to his handling peace talks between the Israelis and the Palestinians — including a moment where he offered the admission that “there may be no solution” regarding the Middle East conflict.
In his White House role, Kushner has been tasked with spearheading Middle East peace negotiations, revamping the government’s technology systems and looking at criminal justice reform and the opioid crisis as well. The Middle East, though, has been Kushner’s most publicly time-consuming duty — and has sent him to Iraq, Ramallah and Jerusalem since January.
The inherently delicate nature of foreign policy discussions involving Palestine and Israel makes discussing this subject with anyone without proper security clearance a tricky task. Before he began speaking, Deputy staff director Member Services, Outreach & Communications Katie Patru offered a warning to the assembled audience.
“This town is full of leakers and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them,” Patru said. “If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core.”
Kushner discussed in detail the U.S.’s dealings in working with Israel and Palestine after two Israeli guards were killed at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Kushner noted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu got “beaten up” in the press after metal detectors were placed at the entrance — which he referred to as “not an irrational thing to do.”
AdChoices“So ultimately we were able to work with them, and we were able to get the Israelis to take down to the different forms of surveillance that the Jordanians were okay with,” Kushner revealed. “And we talked with the Palestinians the whole time to try to get their viewpoint on it.”
Here are a few highlights from the transcript of Jared Kushner’s remarks WIRED provided:
“…I think you need to be able to probe people in private for them to have the confidence that it’s not going to be used against them, and that it’s not going to leak out in the press, which would be very, very hurtful. That’s been a big advantage, which has allowed us to really have a lot of very interesting conversations.”
“So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know… I’m sure everyone that’s tried this has been unique in some ways, but again we’re trying to follow very logically. We’re thinking about what the right end state is. And we’re trying to work with the parties very quietly to see if there’s a solution. And there may be no solution, but it’s one of the problem sets that the president asked us to focus on. So we’re going to focus on it and try to come to the right conclusion in the near future.”
Wired here:
On Monday, White House senior adviser Jared Kushner spoke to a group of congressional interns as part of an ongoing, off-the-record summer lecture series. During the question-and-answer portion of the event, Kushner may have inadvertently offered some insight into the negotiating tactics he is using in the Middle East.
Prior to Kushner’s talk, Katie Patru, the deputy staff director for member services, outreach, and communications, told the assembled interns, “To record today’s session would be such a breach of trust, from my opinion. This town is full of leakers and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them. In this business your reputation is everything. I’ve been on the Hill for 15 years. I’ve sat in countless meetings with members of congress where important decisions were being made. During all those years in all those meetings, I never once leaked to a reporter…. If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core.”
WIRED has obtained a recording of Kushner’s talk, which lasted for just under an hour in total.
The speech—which was peppered with self-deprecating jokes, as reported by Foreign Policy—offered a rare insight into the man who President Trump has tasked with criminal justice reform, managing the opioid crisis, updating the government’s technological systems, and creating peace in the Middle East, among other tasks. It’s the latter, though, that’s both the most deeply personal for Kushner (a staunch supporter of Israel) and that prompted him to embark on his longest, most rambling answer during yesterday’s question-and-answer session.
While the recording doesn’t catch the entirety of the question, it appears to have centered on how Kushner plans to negotiate peace between Israelis and Palestinians, as well as why he believes he’ll be successful where every other administration has failed. He doesn’t directly answer either question, but he does reveal that, in his extensive research, he’s learned that “not a whole lot has been accomplished over the last 40 or 50 years.” He also notes that he’s spoken to “a lot of people,” which has taught him that “this is a very emotionally charged situation.”
Later in the clip, Kushner expresses frustration at others’ attempts to teach him about the delicate situation he’s been inserted into, saying, “Everyone finds an issue, that ‘you have to understand what they did then’ and ‘you have to understand that they did this.’ But how does that help us get peace? Let’s not focus on that. We don’t want a history lesson. We’ve read enough books. Let’s focus on: How do you come up with a conclusion to the situation?” He then goes on to lament the press’s treatment of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a family friend who he’s known since childhood.
Kushner’s dismissal of the nuances of the conflict has already been an issue. Last month, when Kushner met with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, a Palestinian official told Haaretz that Kushner “sounded like Netanyahu’s advisers and not like fair arbiters” and that they were “greatly disappointed” after the meeting. Abbas himself was “reportedly furious.”
Finally, Kushner closed with the following statement of reassurance: “So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know… I’m sure everyone that’s tried this has been unique in some ways, but again we’re trying to follow very logically. We’re thinking about what the right end state is. And we’re trying to work with the parties very quietly to see if there’s a solution. And there may be no solution, but it’s one of the problem sets that the president asked us to focus on. So we’re going to focus on it and try to come to the right conclusion in the near future.”
You can read and listen to Kushner’s answer in its entirety below. WIRED has reached out to the White House for comment, and will update if and when we receive a response.
So first of all, this is one of the ones I was asked to take on, and I did with this something that I do with every problem set you get. Which is you try to study the historical context to understand how something got to where it is, who was successful, and who wasn’t successful. And you try to [unintelligible] is research it and look at the conventional sources but also try to get some unconventional sources as well. And what I’ve determined from looking at it is that not a whole lot has been accomplished over the last 40 or 50 years we’ve been doing this.
And the other thing about it I’d say is that the variables haven’t been changed much, so at some point it’s just one of those things where you kind of have to just pick and choose where you draw conclusion. But that was the other observation I had.
The third one is that I have tried to look at why people haven’t been successful in the negotiations, so I looked and studied all the different negotiations. I spoke to a lot of people who have have been part of them, and I think the reason why is that this is a very emotionally charged situation. Look at what happened this past 10 days—a lot of seemingly logical measures taken on the different [unintelligible] part somehow became a little bit incendiary. But we were able to calm it down by having a lot of really great dialogue between Jordan and the Palestinian authority and the Israelis.
I’d say what makes me hopeful about it is the fact that, a) we’ve had two achievements so far that I think are actually quite noteworthy, which I’ll talk about in a second. The reason why we haven’t been able to do that is the trust that we have with all sides. So if you’ve noticed about this conflict, and [unintelligible] nothing’s leaked out. So nothing has leaked out which I think gives the parties more trust, and more ability to really express and share their viewpoints. And ultimately, if you do a deal that when somebody had to compromise somewhere—all right so there’s a stated set of positions on one side. There’s a stated set of positions on the other side. And there’s a lot of viewpoints all around that people have, which may or may not be conducive to a solution. So I think you need to be able to probe people in private for them to have the confidence that it’s not going to be used against them, and that it’s not going to leak out in the press, which would be very, very hurtful. That’s been a big advantage, which has allowed us to really have a lot of very interesting conversations.
So the two successes that we’ve had so far is—I don’t know if you’re familiar with the deal we’ve had on the water with the Jordanians and the Israelis and the Palestinians—so I was saying that they’ve talked about in concept for a lot of years where [unintelligible] and we were able to figure out how we were going to negotiate a solution which simply [unintelligible] talking for a very, very long time. But again, that happened just because we’re talking to all sides. We don’t let them get caught in the past.
You know everyone finds an issue, that, “You have to understand what they did then,” and “You have to understand that they did this.” But how does that help us get peace? Let’s not focus on that. We don’t want a history lesson. We’ve read enough books. Let’s focus on how do you come up with a conclusion to the situation. That was one thing that we achieved, which we were quite happy about—which is, you know, small thing, but it’s actually a pretty big thing over there. But something that we thought was a pretty big step.
The other thing was working through, in this past week, it really showed us how quickly things can ignite in our history, and you have some people who don’t want to see and achieve an outcome of peace. And other people sometimes thrive in the chaos, and they thrive [unintelligible] and that’s not new to politics and its not new to that conflict. It’s just the way it is, and you always have people on all sides [unintelligible] .
And again, all these people make arguments about why they feel the way they do. So as tensions were really mounting, I don’t know if everyone is familiar, but there were two people—two Israeli guards killed at the Temple Mount (and that’s the first time in many, many, many years that that happened, so Israelis [unintelligible] putting up metal detectors on the Temple Mount, which is not an irrational thing to do. You know when you have—police officers were just killed, and weapons that were used to [unintelligible] the weapons to check them—so then what happens is they start inciting it.
They say look, you know, this is a change to the status quo. The Temple Mount is a [unintelligible] occupation of Israel, and Israel was saying we don’t want anything to do with that, we just want to make sure people are safe. And that really incited a lot of tension in the streets.
So we’re going to work with them [unintelligible] to take down the metal detectors there, and then I think one of the Palestinians’ religious leaders was saying, “If you go through the metal detectors, then your prayers don’t count.” And that is not a very helpful thing to have said. And then there was a lot of rage. And there was an Israeli family that three people killed in their home, which was absolutely terrible. You know, so, “I’m going to do this to free the Temple Mount.” So ultimately we were able to work with them, and we were able to get the Israelis to take down to the different forms of surveillance that the Jordanians were okay with, and we talked with the Palestinians the whole time to try to get their viewpoint on it.
And then ultimately they said, “Okay, we took down the metal detectors but there’s still a bridge up somewhere.” And they said, “Okay, we’ll take that down, too.” And so Bibi was getting beaten up by the press in Israel, because that was very politically unpopular for him to do. At the same time we got a situation in Jordan where an Israeli security diplomat in Jordan was attacked by two Jordanian men, and in self-defense he killed the attackers. So then it worked out where the Jordanians got the Israelis to accept their people from the embassy back to Israel.
[Unintelligible]
My point is that these things are very, very combustible, and very, very delicate in terms of how you can do, but I think the fact that all these conversations were all done in quiet and nothing leaked out [unintelligible]. But I think we were able to keep things quiet. But I mean, any day something could happen.
So, what do we offer that’s unique? I don’t know… I’m sure everyone that’s tried this has been unique in some ways, but again we’re trying to follow very logically. We’re thinking about what the right end state is. And we’re trying to work with the parties very quietly to see if there’s a solution. And there may be no solution, but it’s one of the problem sets that the president asked us to focus on. So we’re going to focus on it and try to come to the right conclusion in the near future.
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48 Comments
6 years ago
Nobody voted for Jared Kushner. The only reason he is there is because he is the boss’ son-in-law. He is not as smart as he thinks, and has appalling judgement such as this back channel he established with the MB’s in this country. https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahallam/jared-kushner-secretly-met-with-muslim-leaders-days-before?utm_term=.onDvr3xOrq#.buGwpyZRpY
6 years ago
Reply to
livingengine
Kushner is a Left/liberal coward like George Cloony http://bit.ly/2u4CPfj
But seriously Trump was not aware of all this ? He is just another coward too like James Mattis. They think pleasing jihadis/saudis/jordanians and making Israel bow down to them will appease or resolve the jihadi attacks.
It won’t. There is nothing wrong with this so called “leak”.
People have right to know. And this just shows cowardice and duplicity.
6 years ago
Reply to
livingengine
In this case he has behaved like an ignorant and naive, wet liberal horse’s rear. Some should tell to grow up and learn something about the real world.
6 years ago
Can I tear my hair out now? GOD this makes me angry.
6 years ago
I knew before the election that after eight years I will hate Trump (because I hate every head of government after so long). The poison is slowly seeping in.
Stop the nepotism! Force Ann Coulter at gun point to take a WH job (she doesn’t want any job)! Get Geller on the DHS, and CAIR out (of the country and put them on a terror list like UAE and find a wanton reason to bomb them)!
How in the world can Kushner have so many responsibilities? He is qualified for none. And they are all too serious.
6 years ago
Reply to
Benjamin Goldstein
Kushner is a Left/liberal coward like George Cloony http://bit.ly/2u4CPfj
But seriously Trump was not aware of all this ? He is just another coward too like James Mattis. They think pleasing jihadis/saudis/jordanians and making Israel bow down to them will appease or resolve the jihadi attacks.
It won’t. There is nothing wrong with this so called “leak”.
People have right to know. And this just shows cowardice and duplicity.
6 years ago
Reply to
IzlamIsTyranny
Jared doesn’t work for Trump. He works for Trump’s enemies. If we tried cleaning our own house – it isn’t easy no matter who we are. Hell, we the people can’t even change our corrupt Congress! We’re still better off than we were and much better than we’d be with any of the other presidential candidates.
6 years ago
Reply to
marlene
I see your point Shillariah Clinton would’ve been hell on earth relative to Trump.
6 years ago
the muslims love it when they win … way to go, President Trump, victory to the enemy, and you weaken Israel. Disgusting.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Buley
Yeah. WTF? Why is Trump giving this kid so much power. Does he have something on Trump.
6 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
i think everybody has something on everybody in politics, certainly at that level. I think it’s part of the reason we may never see Hillary prosecuted. she has dirt on everybody. everybody appears to be afraid of the Clintons, and those who aren’t, end up strangely dead.
my real worry is that Trump is not REALLY going to put the brakes on Islam … If Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR and the Muslim Student Association aren’t designated as terrorist groups, and banned from this country, then the infiltration and control just continue. If Islam itself isn’t named as the problem — the ideology, the Koran, the hadiths — then Islam will never be defeated.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Buley
I have the same reservations about Trump. I hope he doesn’t let us down. But, putting pressure on Israel like they did here, doesn’t bode well for him.
6 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
Caving into muslims is exactly the wrong thing to do. I was shocked that Israel gave in — to the very people who call for their death all day long, and have for 1,400 years.
6 years ago
Reply to
Michael Buley
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6 years ago
absolutely agree. the left supports their people no matter what laws they break, no matter what they do. There is zero accountability on the left. Only looking the other way, or flat out endorsing it.
the right? look. If Trump breaks laws, absolutely hold him accountable. If any of his people do, same thing.
I want laws upheld equally — I don’t care the party or who it is. And when our leaders very much appear to undermine OUR safety and security, along with Israel’s, then yes, we need to hold them accountable and not make excuses.
bush was a traitor to this country. A globalist second to none. just for one item … that wall with Mexico? the enforcement of immigration laws? deporting of illegals? vetting of Muslim immigrants? It has taken ’til we have President Trump to even address these directly, and at least begin to do something about them.
I love President Trump. I support him. I do not support what this article reveals for a second.
6 years ago
Jordan, Saudi Arabia, are drawing closer, as for Jordan’s request, read as Saudi’s..
Saudi influence on the West is as rife as ever.
D
6 years ago
Moron.
6 years ago
I said all along in various threads on this site it was intense international pressure, not any naivete on Netanyahu’s part.
And one of my proposed rationales may still be operative, just coming via Kushner, and presumably Trump, rather than from the Arabs directly, or from Netanyahu himself. They are all thinking about the Iranians, and keeping them on board with joint US/Israeli airstrikes to take out the production facilities and completed weapons.
Anyway, this vindicates Netanyahu, and also the things I said in his defense when he was attacked here and elsewhere.
Nothing I have written should be construed to mean that I am on board with the decision to take down the metal detectors. I bet in his heart of hearts Bibi isn’t down with it himself.
I’m just trying to keep things real as to the context in which the Prime Minister, his government, military, and nation unfortunately must operate.
6 years ago
Reply to
Covadonga
That seems like a good analysis, I’ll have more faith in it if the airstrikes actually happen
6 years ago
Why is this greenhorn tasked with negotiating on the hottest issue on the planet. And insulting Israel for trying to defend itself. Could there be a traitor this close to Trump.
6 years ago
Reply to
santashandler
As you can see, he folded right up, just like liberals always do.
6 years ago
Like they are setting something up
6 years ago
I can tell you in the heartland there is no love for Jared.
6 years ago
Boy is he wet behind the ears. This is our globalist that is pro-immigration.
6 years ago
I have been telling everyone, Kushner is the enemy.
6 years ago
FIRE THEM ALL. do more than “get bothered” and start arresting these traitors.
6 years ago
Jared doesn’t work for Trump. He works for Trump’s enemies.
6 years ago
There’s so much more to this story…
6 years ago
This article repeats over and over, the same thing.
I’ve noticed this with other articles too. Why, pray tell?
6 years ago
If the eyes are the window to the soul, I look into the eyes of Jared Kushner in the photo above, and I don’t like what I see ….. something evil there …. Makes me think of Bradbury’s book ‘Something Wicked This Way Comes’ ….
6 years ago
With kapos like Jared around , who needs jihadists ?
6 years ago
You’re KIDDING ME???
WTF???? Ucking weirdo!!
6 years ago
Who TF is Jared Kushner! That is the question. Somehow I am sure I won’t like the answer
6 years ago
Reply to
michaelofsydney
Jarred paid well over the odds for no 666 Fifth Ave. It is hardly a surprise that Lucent Technologies (LT) are housed there. LT are developing RFID technology. Like I say…Who TF is Jared Kushner?
6 years ago
So now we have it and the only answer is that everyone in the White House must work in the nude so that Trump can be sure that there are no recording devices or cameras in the ‘secret’ rooms.
6 years ago
Why did he do it? Furthermore, he shouldn’t get involved in Israeli politics.
6 years ago
BS! Israel replaced the metal detectors with higher technology. They have cameras that can actually see into pockets and the lining of clothing and tell whether or not there’s a weapon there. This is obviously something that has been in the works for quite a while. I don’t think Jared Kushner had anything to do with it.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-remove-metal-detectors-from-temple-mount/
6 years ago
Are they so clueless that they would hire an intern who would engage in such betrayal?
6 years ago
And Jared Kushner. is proud of this? Exposing Israelis to Muslim violence? How stupid! What the devil is going on in this administration? Just when one begins feeling good about it, it shoots itself in he foot – like with this pressure on Israel. Israel should have told the Trump administration to go to hell. Now I appreciate why there were things I liked about the apartheid government in South Africa. Their racial policies were unjust and wrong, sometimes downright cruel, but their willing to tell the rest of the world to go hell over it’s hypocrisy, double standards and selective morality, had definite appeal. I wish Israel would do similarly.
6 years ago
If Kushner is a traitor to Israel shouldn’t his right to aliyah be revoked? If he’s siding w/the muslums isn’t that the definition of a traitor?
