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Preparing For Your Muslim Meet-And-Greet

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About a month ago a “Dinner and Dialogue” was offered by Muslims in Columbia, South Carolina for any non-Muslims who wanted to learn the truth about Islam. In both its form and its content, there was  nothing to distinguish this exercise in friendly deception from a hundred, or a thousand other examples of the same, also being offered, usually at mosques around the country, though this one in Columbia differed in one respect: it was held at the local Museum of Art, and was apparently prompted initially by the desire of the Museum’s staff to accompany a display of Muslim artists with a discussion of Islam. These events, where Muslims purport to “explain Islam,” differ only in their titles. There are those aimed folksily at neighbors: “Ask a A Muslim Neighbor.” There are those offered in what appears to be a spirit of compete candor to the just-curious: “I’m A Muslim — Ask Me Anything.” These meet-and-greets are constantly being put on for credulous Infidels “looking for answers,” or just wanting to be reassured — and who better to give them answers, who better to reassure them about Islam, than Muslims themselves? — that Islam has “nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.” There is no way to stop these events from being held, but there are ways, if you have properly prepared yourself with the relevant information and are willing to attend, to throw a spanner in the works, to make sure that your fellow Infidels are not quite so easily taken in — and that would be a justified, even a heroic act, of civilizational self-defense. Why not consider yourself deputized, and give it a go?

You already know what that evening of a  “Dinner and Dialogue” in Columbia must have been like, what questions were asked by the credulous Infidels, and what taqiyya-and-tu-quoque answers were given by their host, Imam Omar Shaheed. But while you may be forgiven for wanting to skip yet another example of Muslim apologetics, it’s a salutary exercise to go through this event’s dishonesties, in our constant attempt to sweep back the tide of idiocy. First a little, thence to more, we’ll sample all the (Muslim propagandists’) killing store. And take issue, as the non-Muslims present mostly did not, with every one of the assertions made during that evening of ‘Dinner and Dialogue’ with Muslims. Since little of what was discussed was in the newspaper report, I have instead imagined both the questions from the audience of non-Muslims and the responses of Imam Omar Shaheed.

Comments are interspersed throughout the report. Passages from the actual news item are in italics.

As Imam Omar Shaheed looked out at the 150 people who packed the Columbia Museum of Art’s auditorium Sunday night, he was struck by one thing.

“We’re all different religions, but we have a humanity,” he said. “That’s really standing out.”

“We have a humanity” [sic] — it’s a treacly semaphoring that “we are all God’s children” and that “we have so much more that unites than separates us, and isn’t that what we should be talking about, as we reject the haters and the dividers and the islamophobes, and try to find out just how much we have in common?” That’s what Omar Shaheed wants you to believe.

Shaheed, imam at Masjid as-Salaam in Columbia, was part of the panel at “Dinner and Dialogue: Understanding Islam.” The discussion that was part of the event answered questions about the tenets of Islam, the most common misconceptions about the religion and the similarities between Islam, Christianity and Judaism.

But before they could start that discussion, someone well-prepared, who possibly has read both the Qur’an, and Robert  Spencer’s guide, “Blogging the Qur’an,” manages just then to ask Omar Shaheed: “we may have a humanity” as you said,  but what I’d like to know is what you make of Qur’an 98:6, that describes Infidels as ‘the vilest of creatures.” Shaheed, though startled — like all Muslim clerics, he hates it when Infidels actually know something — will have to offer an answer for the sake of the Infidels in his audience, but what? The Lie Direct?  “Did you actually read it in the Arabic version, which is the only version that counts?” The questioner likely won’t have, and Shaheed has introduced a note of doubt about the accuracy of the English version. And then he might follow that up with an offer to continue this discussion at a later time:  “I’d love to discuss this further, so why don’t you come to see me and we’ll go over the Arabic original together and how to properly contextualize it?” (implying that there’s less to it than meets the eye). “And I’d be more than happy to show you what, though not stated directly, is clearly understood by Muslims, which is that the verse is directed at everyone who is exposed to the truth but rejects it. They can be Muslims or non-Muslims.” Shaheed is showing goodwill, he’s showing that he has no intention of hiding anything, he just wants to make sure you, the Infidels, aren’t misunderstanding a verse or two which, he admits, “can sometimes happen if you can’t read the text in Arabic, or don’t know the context.”

On the imam’s face there’s a look of sincere sympathy, expressive of an earnest desire to make sure that no non-Muslim gets the wrong impression about Islam.  And Imam Omar Shaheed now patiently explains to the non-Muslims present that the Qur’an could not possibly mean to call all Infidels “the worst of creatures.” “In Arabic it is absolutely clear that what is meant is that only those people who are guilty not only of refusing the truth once they have been exposed to it” (he never says “refusing the message of Muhammad”) “but also of sowing ‘corruption in the land.’Those are the people– it doesn’t have to be stated, it’s so strongly implied  — who are “vile creatures.” They could be Muslim or non-Muslim, it doesn’t matter. And all Muslims understand that,” Omar Shaheed will insist. None of his fellow Muslims on the panel will contradict him; they know what he’s trying to do.

Shaheed continues: “And how could we, who revere Jesus and Moses as prophets, think those who believe in them are “vile”? How could we, fellow monotheists, think that people who believe as we do in one God, and believe, just as we do, that God revealed himself to Abraham, are “vile creatures”?  And just look at us. Why would we Muslims move to countries, in Europe, in North America, in Australia, that are  full of people who if we were to believe your interpretation, are  “vile creatures”? Would we want to live among “vile creatures”? To send our children to go to school with “vile creatures”? To learn from “vile creatures”? Of course not. It makes no sense. We love America, the American way of life, and Americans. They are most certainly not “vile creatures” to us. (Murmurs of proud agreement).

“But I sympathize — I know that not everything is crystal clear in the Qur’an, not even to us, the Believers. It is sometimes hard to understand parts of the Qur’an. You may have to read between the lines to get the full meaning. After all, there are Islamic scholars who have spent their lives reading, studying, memorizing the Qur’an and its complexities. That’s why Muslims read a tafsir, or commentary, on the Qur’an. It’s that complicated. So don’t be shy about asking about parts of the Qur’an that don’t make sense to you.That’s one of the reasons I’m here tonight with other Muslims. We want to help. We don’t want Islam to be a mystery.”

“I’ll take one more question before we return to our planned discussion.”

At this point, someone who, Omar Shaheed will discover to his dismay, is even more disturbingly well-prepared than the first questioner, raises his hand. Such people are starting to show up, on their own, at local Meet-Your-Muslim neighbor events, or reasonable facsimiles thereof, held at a mosque, a school, a pubic auditorium, or even — as here — an art museum, where they deliberately raise uncomfortable questions, and  inject a note of well-founded skepticism.

Called on, he asks; “Imam Shaheed, what do you think the effect is on Muslims, as they say their five daily prayers, of cursing the Kuffar seventeen times a day?”

Shaheed, startled, masks his fury, for he knows exactly the passage to which reference is being made, but simply says: “I’m afraid you’ve misunderstood the verses I think you are referring to, that is the last two verses of the first sura of the Qur’an, the Fatihah. You should read it more carefully. There is no mention, none, of the ‘Kuffar’ which is what  you called them, but I must say I find that word impolite and prefer ‘non-Muslims.’ I have those verses right here, so let me read them to all of you: ‘Guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.’ Now there is no mention of Jews or Christians in those verses. None. People who are looking for trouble, seeking to divide us, are just reading into it what isn’t there. There’s a famous commentator, Nisaburi, who says that ‘those who have incurred Allah’s wrath are the people of negligence, and those who have gone astray are the people of immoderation.’ What’s wrong with that? People of negligence,who do too little, or immoderation, who do too much  — they could be from any faith — incur Allah’s wrath. Nothing at all there about ‘cursing the Kuffar.’ Islamophobes like to insist that Christians and Jews are being referred to, but there’s no evidence for this.”

“But who are ‘the people of negligence’? Who are ‘those who have gone astray’? Have you read what John Esposito wrote about those people in Islam: The Straight Path? The people of negligence are the Jews. The people who have gone astray are the Christians? And Esposito is certainly no islamophobe.”

“Listen, anyone can read anything into those phrases.. If you are looking to deliberately stir up trouble, that’s one way to do it. But I’m a Muslim, I’ve devoted my life to the study of Islam, and I’ve never ever thought, nor have any of my teachers, that Jews or Christians were being referred to here. That verse really means just what it says: people who are ‘negligent,’ people ‘who have gone astray.’ They can be from any faith. But I’ll be happy to go over it with you in a private session. And right now, if you don’t mind, since we don’t have all evening, I’d like to get on to the main discussion. We’re here to answer questions about the tenets of Islam, the most common misconceptions about the religion and the similarities between Islam, Christianity and Judaism. Yes?”

“Are Muslims monotheists?”

“Yes. Islam is one of the three great monotheisms.And you know something — we must be doing something right, because Islam is the world’s fastest-growing monotheism. In fact, it’s the world’s fastest-growing religion.” (Laughter from the audience).

“Why is Islam considered an Abrahamic religion?”

“Oh, that’s because we hold that God revealed himself to Abraham. Muslims, Christians, Jews, we all look back to Abraham.”

“Who was Muhammad?”

“Muhammad was the last of the Prophets, the Seal of the Prophets. Allah’s message was delivered to him over 23 years, and that message can be found in the Holy Qur’an. He is the most important figure in Islam. He brought what we Muslims believe is the Truth. He was, we feel, a Model of Conduct and the Perfect Man. But he was not divine. And he was not the only prophet — we revere Jesus, and Moses too. And many other prophets who came before Muhammad. We have collections of stories about the words and deeds of Muhammad, called the Hadith. There are many collections of these stories but some are more trustworthy than others. Six collections are known as ‘Sahih’ — that is, authentic –and among those the two most trustworthy are by Al-Bukhari and Muslim, that is ‘Sahih Bukhari’ and ‘Sahih Muslim.’ There is also the sira, the biography of Muhammad. You cannot understand Islam without understanding Muhammad.”

At this point the questioning stopped and Omar Shaheed continued:

Shaheed drew similarities to the ways, he said, the Christian religion was hijacked by the American Christian Knights, a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. He added that suicide goes against the beliefs of Islam.

“So where’s the suicide bomber coming from?” he asked the audience. “You think Islam would preach that? If you do, then you’ve got to believe that what the Klansmen said about Christianity was correct.”

But there was no “hijacking” of the Christian religion by the Ku Klux Klan, and its most recent avatars. They did not claim their acts were prompted by  Christian doctrine, though many of their members claimed to be Christians. As for suicide, it does go against the beliefs of Islam, as Shaheed says, with one exception: Islam also teaches that even if you will almost certainly die in an attack on Infidels, as when you set off an explosive belt you are wearing, this is still not considered suicide because the intent was not to kill yourself, but to kill Infidels. And though the chance of surviving is infinitesimal, it is not zero. If you kill Infidels, while dying yourself, not only are you not considered to have committed suicide, but are praised as a martyr, or shahid, the surest way to the Islamic heaven. When Shahid asks “so where’s the suicide bomber coming from” he knows from exactly where — Islamic doctrine, that considers him not a suicide but a martyr. What we Infidels call suicide bombing are not regarded as “suicide” by Muslims. Nor are  they described as such, either by those who send the bombers out, or by those who immolate themselves.

Sunday’s event was put on to address misconceptions about the Islamic religion, according to Glenna Barlow, manager of engagement for the museum. A dinner after the discussion included cuisine from around the Islamic world.

We thought it was important to differentiate between radical Islam and the majority of peaceful, devout Muslims around the world,” she said.

What does this mean? What is “radical Islam” but the Islam of those who are ready and willing to take up the duty of violent Jihad, as set out in the Qur’an? The obligation is ordinarily a communal one, fard al-kifayah, and if enough “radicalized” Muslims fulfill the duty, other Muslims, the so-called “peaceful” ones, are relieved of the obligation. But many of those “peaceful” Muslims Glenna Barlow mentions — Imam Shaheed insists almost all Muslims are “peaceful” — tell pollsters that they support the imposition of Sharia’ in the West, or even that they support the terrorist attacks by other Muslims. For example, 31% of young Muslims in Britain have expressed approval of the 7/7/2005 bombings in London. BBC Radio in its own poll in 2015 found that 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” Only 57% of Muslims world-wide disapprove of Al-Qaeda. 25% of Muslim-Americans say that terrorist attacks on Americas are justified as part of a global jihad. 48% of British Muslims would not report anyone “linked to terror.” There is much more in this worrisome vein, and none of it supports the claim that almost all Muslims are “peaceful.” What is needed is for someone to print out this information about these disturbing opinion polls, and bring it to these meet-your-muslim neighbor events, and either quote from them — as I have just done — or offer to hand them out. Omar Shaheed will find it impossible to deny the significance of these polls.

Omar Shaheed knows perfectly well that the people who come to these events know very little about Islam (save for the well-prepared questioners who sometimes show up, clearly to make trouble, and who are then put off with force-fed taqiyya), but are eager to hear whatever soothing version is offered to them, to relieve their anxiety,and he’s ready to give them exactly that. Will some of them have read the Qur’an, or even just a little bit of the Qur’an? Not likely. The hadith, the sira? They won’t even have heard of these. If they try the Qur’an on their own, much of it will be impossible to comprehend. To have a real Muslim offer to explain Islam, to answer all our questions — what could be better?

And Imam Omar has invited them to ask whatever they want.

“What does Islam have in common with Christianity?” asks a lady in the front row.

“That’s a very good question. First of all, we Muslims believe in one God, just as you do. We are one of the three great monotheistic faiths, the other two of course being Christianity and Judaism. And we must be doing something right, because Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion.”(Laughter from the audience) “Islam is also one of the ‘three abrahamic faiths.’ Have you heard that said?” A few in the audience answer “yes!” “That means that we all believe that God revealed himself to Abraham. And we’ve got so much more in common.”

“Anybody heard of the Five Pillars of Islam? (“Yes’” several people shout in unison). “Can anyone name them?” Someone volunteers: “the Hajj?” “Yes, that’s right. The Hajj is the pilgrimage to Mecca a Muslim should make, if he can afford it, at least once in his lifetime.”

“Anyone else?” “Prayer?” says someone in the third row. “Yes, we Muslims are big on prayer, in fact we  prostrate ourselves in prayer, always facing Mecca, five times a day. It’s called salat. Any others?” Silence. “Well, there’s giving to charity, what we call zakat. Charity is  is very much at the center of Islamic life. We have a duty to the neediest among us. Okay, you’re doing fine. And there’s Sawm, or the fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. And then at night, during Ramadan,  you have the Iftar Dinner,. when you break the fast with family and friends. You may not know it, but President Thomas Jefferson held the first Iftar Dinner in the White House. Islam’s been in this country a lot longer than any of you may realize. It goes all the way back to Columbus — his navigator knew Arabic, practiced Islam in secrecy. And many of the slaves were Muslims. We’re just learning about all this now. That’s why President Obama said rightly that “Islam has always been part of America’s history.”

“But I’m getting away from the Five Pillars. There’s one left, the most important of all: the Shehada, or Profession of Faith. We acknowledge that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. That’s basically it. Now do you notice anything?” Someone says “Well, Islam seems a  lot like Christianity.” “Exactly” says Imam Shaheed. “We pray, and so do you. We give — it’s a Muslim duty — to charity, and so do you. We observe a period of fasting, and so do Christians. We go on pilgrimages, and so do Christians. The only difference is that we have a short Profession of Faith, and Christians have a Credo, which is longer, but they are essentially the same thing.”

“So if someone asks you some of the ways Christianity and Islam are alike, just answer: Both are monotheisms, both are Abrahamic faiths. And both ask their adherents to profess their faith, to pray, to fast, to give to charity, to go on pilgrimages.”

“Now, any other questions?’”

“Do Muslims believe in an afterlife?”

“Most certainly we do, and you go to Heaven for the same reason that  Christians do, for leading a virtuous life.”

“I hear so much about Jihad, can you please explain exactly what it is?”

“I was hoping I’d get a question on that. There’s so much confusion out there and, I’m sad to say, a lot of misinformation that is being spread by hate groups. And that’s having a terrible effect. Did you know that there’s been a 68% increase this year in hate crimes against Muslims? Reported from almost every state in the union. Bacon strips left outside mosques. Several ladies in hijabs being told by people on the street to ‘go back where you came from.’ Muslim families who report being started at suspiciously in airports. And the list goes on.” From the audience, clucks of sympathy and dismay.

“And I think we all know why. It’s always the same few groups, that have whipped people up about Jihad this and Jihad that. Just look at what you see on TV, what you read on the Internet. Well, let me tell you what Jihad is. It’s literally a ‘struggle.’ A spiritual struggle. It’s making sure you master your own behavior, to lead a life the way a good Muslim should. Some  of you may have heard the famous story about Muhammad coming home from battle? He and his men had been attacked and he had been fighting, but when he got home, he announced that he was returning from the Lesser Jihad to the Greater Jihad. In other words, the Greater Jihad was the one he conducted at home, the internal Jihad for self-mastery. And fighting was for him the Lesser Jihad.  Of course Muhammad sometimes had to fight for his beliefs, the way we all do, but it wasn’t something that gave him any pleasure, though to hear some of the islamophobes you would hardly be aware of that.”

Is there freedom of religion in Muslim countries?” 

“Well, l’m glad you asked that. There’s been so much nonsense in the news about that.  There are Christians in practically every Muslim country, even in Saudi Arabia — I’m not sure the Saudis could run their hospitals or universities or oilfields without Christians (laughter from the audience). if there weren’t freedom of religion, wouldn’t you think after 1400 years of Islam, there would be no Christians left? My goodness, I was in Egypt recently, visiting some relatives, and I saw Copts everywhere. They seemed to own half the shops in Cairo. There’s at least eighteen million of them in Egypt. Of course a few fanatics have attacked Coptic churches. But they still go to church, no one in the government tries to prevent them. They are free to practice Christianity. I’m not denying there are Muslim crazies who twist and distort Islam, and have attacked Christians. But definitely there is freedom of religion. And look not just at Egypt but at all the churches in Iraq and Syria and Lebanon — they wouldn’t be there if there hadn’t been freedom of religion over the last 1400 years. And of course it’s not just Christians who have freedom of religion. Look at Pakistan,where there are not only Christians but two million Hindus, perfectly free to practice Hinduism.”

“But what about all these stories we hear about Christians being killed in Muslim countries?”

“Oh yes, it’s terrible. There’s no doubt that there’s been some of that. But remember, it’s a recent phenomenon. It’s ISIS. And ISIS is on the run. I think the problem is that a small group of Muslims have simply gone — I don’t know how else to say this — crazy. I’ve tried to figure out what’s pushed them over the edge. I think what’s happened is that they are punishing the Christians in the Middle East, their neighbors and friends, with whom they have lived for generations, for the foreign policies of some Christian countries. It’s the sight of what Christian armies have done, invading Muslim countries, killing civilians — you know, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya –that has just been too much. I’m not excusing it — I’m just trying to explain it. Of course it’s terrible. And the silent majority of Muslims need to do more to speak out against it.”

“I almost forgot the most important thing. It’s a verse in the Qur’an, a direct command to all Believers. Qur’an 2:256: “There is no compulsion in religion.” I don’t think you can be much clearer than that. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The next time someone tell you about “religious persecution” in Muslim countries, just recite Qur’an 2:256 to them. And tell them that nearly 20 million Copts live in Egypt– and they are certainly not trying to leave. And about how the Egyptian government bombed ISIS camps in Libya in retaliation for the bombing of Coptic churches. “The twisted interpretations of Islam  by a handful of lunatics  should not be used to provoke hatred of the vast majority of peaceful Muslims.”

“Any other questions?”

What can we do to help create more understanding of Islam in our own faith communities?”

“You know,” says Imam Omar Shaheed, “I’m very glad you asked that question. I’d like to think that when those who try to divide us with their so-called anti-Sharia rallies, or try to peddle their poison on campuses or elsewhere, that you good people who’ve come here tonight will show up to defend peaceful Muslims. Show Up, and Shout Down. And I think if you tell others what you’ve learned tonight, maybe just starting with all the things Islam and Christianity share  — the monotheism, and both being abrahamic faiths, and of course the Five Pillars, that are duties practically identical to what Christians observe, that would help a lot. And if you feel like writing letters to your congressman, or letters to the editor of your newspaper in support of your local Muslim community, or put up signs outside your houses, as some people do, the ones that say “No matter where you are from, we’re glad you’re our neighbor” in English, Arabic, and Spanish, all that can help. It would be great to see those signs everywhere as a way of saying no to bigotry. And you can also request,as parents,  that the local schools have units on Islam that at least go over the things discussed here tonight, so that early on, children will be exposed to the truth about our faith, and not be scared of Muslims because of some story on Fox News, or some rant by our president. These study units on Islam are already happening in many school systems, but we need to do much more. The faith of 1.6 billion people, the fastest-growing religion on earth, shouldn’t be ignored by our schools. And when some people start describing Jihad as involving violence, tell them what Muhammad himself said about the Lesser and the Greater Jihad. And about the verse that says “there is no compulsion in religion.” And one more thing: please don’t hesitate to make an appointment and come to visit me,  to continue the conversation we began tonight. .And feel free to  refer people to me if you think they are open to being educated, and not hopeless bigots. My door is always open to anyone who genuinely wants a true dialogue, to find out more about Islam, and is not just trying to play a game of gotcha.

“Now let us continue the dialogue in the next room, where we can get better acquainted over dinner. I’ve just been signaled that everything is ready: the curried chicken, the lamb kebab, the hummus, the baba ghanoush, the naan and pita bread, and all the rest,  that Mrs. Bazzaz and her staff of volunteers have prepared. Honestly, you are in for a real treat. We have dishes from Morocco, Lebanon, Pakistan, Bangladesh. After a dinner like this, I don’t think that anyone can say that Islam is monolithic. Sorry I couldn’t have Thomas Jefferson join us, but you can consider this not just a dinner but an Iftar dinner, as this is the holy month of Ramadan, and I hope that as new friends we will have many more such dinners together. So please — in the next room, the buffet is ready, and once you’ve helped yourself, just sit down at any of the tables. We’ll be sure to have at least one member of our Muslim community at each table to answer questions about Ramadan.. And don’t forget to go back for the baklava, basbousa, and kunafeh. Enjoy!”

The evening was certainly a great success. People learned so much. Everyone said so. Everyone agreed.

Here are what two of them had to say:

Melissa Chappell and Kristi Meetze came from Newberry County to the event Sunday. Meetze, 44, was surprised by the similarities between Christianity and Islam, and said events like “Dinner and Dialogue” are important for education.

“To let everybody know that what you see on the news is not the whole story,” she said.

Chappell, 47, said she’s developed an interest in Islam but doesn’t know a lot about it.

“A lot of bad things people say about Islam, it’s not really Islam, but cultural projections that people put on Islam,” she said, specifically noting the perceived prohibition of women driving cars. “That’s not a tenet of Islam. That’s a cultural thing.”

And a good time was had by all.

  • CharlieSeattle

    Bill Warner, PhD: Jihad vs Crusades
    Interactive battle map comparison

    https://youtu.be/I_To-cV94Bo

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  • CharlieSeattle

    “There is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim, only Apostate ones!”

    https://stumpknocker77.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-moderate-muslim-only-apostate-ones/

    Many Muslims living in Islamic countries have no problem with the rule of putting apostates to death. The examples of Robert Hussein of Kuwait, Abdul Rahman of Afghanistan, and Bahaa el-Din Ahmed Hussein el-Akkad of Egypt come to mind. These ugly Muslim governments are succored by the West’s finances and blood while they impose an imperial and brutal religion upon its citizens.

    On the other hand, Muslims living in the West are embarrassed by this death sentence. The West values the freedoms of thought and speech, Islam does not, and these virtues have never blossomed under Islamic rule. Consequently, when asked about the Islamic law for apostates many Western Muslims do their best to cover up Islam’s edict. Motivated by conviction, or shame, they make up various defenses and say whatever they can to put your mind at ease and make Islam more acceptable to a naïve, gullible, and ignorant Western audience.

    >>> The way around that little Catch 22, …is to lie.

    >>> The Taqiyya Factor

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/the_taqiyya_factor.html

    Taqiyya is an Islamic doctrine that allows Muslims to deceive non-Muslims. As in lie to them. Dr. Sami Mukaram, author of Taqiyya in Islam, writes: “Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it…

    >>> Former President Obama expertly practiced Taqiyya, and still does.

  • CharlieSeattle

    The West does NOT need to allow thousands of backward, 7th century, unvetted and violent muslim savages into our countries that have ‘enshrined’ sexual slavery, rape, forced conversion, murder and genocide in their FAKE religion!

    In every WESTERN country where Muslims are in the minority, they are obsessed with minority rights.
    In every ISLAMIC country with a Muslim majority, …there are no minority rights!
    islam is NOT a religion of peace!!

    islam is a sick and twisted terrorist ideology that is completely incompatible with western civilization!!

    Deport all muslims, CITIZENS OR not, from the west at once!!
    Ban all muslims from traveling to the west, …FOREVER

    Trump is correct.
    Implement muslim control, NOT gun control.

    Defending your person, your family, your country from attack and invasion from those forcing a violent, terrorist, genocidal ideology on western civilization…is …not … islamophobia ….or racist. ….It is just common sense.

    The people of Europe, Britain and Canada must throw down their treasonous leaders forcing this evil upon them.

    …………………………………..The USA just did!

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  • gia

    A good time was had by all! Yeah I am sure the muzzies went home happy knowing they made their evil cult once again look peaceful.
    If these people want to get to know Islam they need to start paying attention to what is happening in Europe.
    Are these fools oblivious to all that has happened in every European country?
    This is funny Muslim meet and greet ! Learn about Islam from bunch of lying coniving Satan worshipping crazy as heck muzzies!

  • Trump can’t ban islam

    trump is working with moderate muslims to fight extremists. that is why Trump is bringing thousands of moderate muslims to usa. Islam belongs in usa now

    • old003

      You are in for a bigly surprise dhimmi.

    • famouswolf

      There are no ‘moderate’ moslems. If you believe that you are either a) practicing taqiyya or b) a damned fool. Or both.
      And…if you think you 7th century barbarous apes have DJT fooled…LOL. Just you wait.
      Watch the destruction of your sick ‘religion’ as it gets defused and dismantled. He’s not ‘working with ‘moderate’ moslems’, he’s setting them (and you, whether moslem or apologist) up. You see, by neutralizing the militant arm he’s taking away the only thing that keeps the average moslem enslaved to your disgusting, woman hating, slave loving, cruel, morally destitute piece of sh*t ‘religion’. Islam will fail when compared fairly and truthfully with every other religion/philosopy on planet eart. Every. Single. One. Every single time.
      The West and Christianity are far superior, in every way, and will triumph. Islam will die off, and good riddance. It can’t happen fast enough to suit me, and meanwhile I will do everything in my power to see it destroyed. As will millions of others. You got a fight on your hands, pal, and it ain’t gonna be easy. I promise.

    • santashandler

      You are seriously deluded

  • AlgorithmicAnalyst

    Sickening.

    • santashandler

      That is an understatement

  • herdzcatz

    Wonder what they would have done if everyone who attended wore their signs “I’m a Christian (Jew, Buddhist, atheist, etc.). Ask me anything.” I would have worn my “I’m a Christian” sign with pleasure.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    Another muslim donkey dance around the issues. Pretending that to understand the qur’an requires being conversant in medieval arabic does it? So those sponsoring “come to muhammad, police beat upon him” sessions are all conversant in that ancient language? Really? So are muslims all over the world then? That being the case, what we see muslims doing that involve criminally insane violence against any non muslim is the unchangeable word of allice? What was on the menu? As a gesture of politeness as guests of a non mulsim nation, would the muslims have a nice pork barbecue, and a few domestic beer, in solidarity with the community? Or are muslim dietary and other laws forced on those attending?
    Shall we discuss a few quotes from the qur’an? After all, wo can explain the quotes from the qur’an better than a muslim? Please answer the following.
    “Muhammad was the last of the Prophets, the Seal of the Prophets. Allah’s message was delivered to him over 23 years, and that message can be found in the Holy Qur’an. He is the most important figure in Islam. He brought what we Muslims believe is the Truth. He was, we feel, a Model of Conduct and the Perfect Man”. So, your perfect man is described as a pedophile, rapist, murderer, necrophiliac, thief, assassin and bigot. With references to the qur’an, which can be easily looked up, as all of mutgonad’s , police beat upon him” character descriptions are carefully documented in the the qur’an. Shall we debate them one point at a time?
    -“(You are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind) (3:110).
    Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Hurayrah commented on this Ayah, “(You, Muslims, are) the best nation of people for the people, you bring them tied in chains on their necks (capture them in war) and they later embrace Islam”.
    -Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son. [Note: This parable along with verse 58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).]
    The first text comes from the Sharia manual Umdat al-Salik (Sunni). Section o1.2 lists many cases of murder for which the murderer is granted immunity.
    “o1.2 The following are not subject to retaliation:
    A child or insane person, under any circumstances … ;
    A Muslim for killing a non-Muslim ;
    A Jewish or Christian subject of the Islamic state for killing an apostate from Islam … ;
    A father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring ”
    -Anwar al-Awlaki, a cleric born and raised in the United States and once held up as an example of moderate Islam, instructs his followers not to steal for the sake of self-enrichment, but rather for the cause of Jihad:
    “The reasoning behind comparing booty to hunting and wood gathering is because the property which exists in the hands of the disbelievers is not considered to be rightfully theirs in our Islamic shari’ah because of their disbelief and when Islam does give them the right to own it, it is an exception to the rule such as in the case of ahl al-dhimma after they pay jizyah. This is why our scholars say that Allah has called booty as “fai’” which means “to return”, so they say that the property of the disbelievers that doesn’t belong to them has “returned” to the believer: its “rightful owner.”
    -Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
    -Respected Quran scholars in the past interpreted verse 4:34 with impressive candor. Tabari said that it means to “admonish them, but if they refused to repent, then tie them up in their homes and beat them until they obey Allah’s commands toward you.” Qurtubi told wife-beaters to avoid breaking bones, if possible, but added that “it is not a crime if it leads to death.” (source)
    Muslim (4:1039) – “A’isha said [to Muhammad]: ‘You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'” These are the words of Muhammad’s favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam.
    -Prophet Mohammed’s confession:
    “I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
    — Al-Tabari, The History of Al-Tabari, vol. vi, p. 111
    ‘Then Gabriel came to the apostle and said , “What have you done, Muhammad? You have read to these people something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did not say to you.”‘
    — Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 166
    There will be no one of you who will not enter it (Hell).
    This was an inevitable decree of your Lord.
    -Sahih Bukhari (83:37) – “Allah’s Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate.”
    Afterwards he may save some of the pious, God-fearing Muslims out of the burning fire.
    — Sura 19:71-72
    -Then there is islamic writing on negroes “Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406) was, among other things, an Islamic jurist, Islamic lawyer, Islamic scholar, Islamic theologian, and hafiz
    “Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”[4]
    Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah, 14th century
    “beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”[4]
    Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah”

    • AlgorithmicAnalyst

      They seem to have lies for every occasion. It is almost admirable, how good they are at lying.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        They are well practiced, with lies conveniently categorized.

      • CharlieSeattle

        That is Taqiyya!

  • santashandler

    The “meet and greets” are nothing more than indoctrination seminars designed to hoodwink the uninitiated that all is well and to enjoy the falafel with the imam who wants to cut their throats. This setting would be the perfect place to set up a mind control program designed to send these people out into their communities to promote the “peacful” religion.

    The devil convinced a large percentage of the world he doesn’t exist. How difficult would it be to accept he is using his disciples(these “loving” meeter greeters) that the religion to him is peaceful…..

  • Philip

    Oily. Mad respect to anyone who can wade through the taqiya in person without doubts. Muslims on Twitter are less interested in seeming charismatic.

  • Kalidul Liq

    here is the verse 98:6…

    Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.

    let say quran has violence verses in it, which it doese,so what, Bible and Torah has some too,Muslim are not responsible for verses and words in Quran since it is in God Hands and we cant alter God words and we as a muslim have a right and the freedom to bleive what we want and only one can be judged for his actions and deeds. ISIS dont represen Islam and me just like how Zionists cant represent The jew religion or people..or how Pamela cant represent peace loving human being but she represent the Devil and the zionist.

    • Mark Goldberg

      Let’s say quran has violent verses in it? you say then, ‘so does the bible and torah.
      The Quran is mostly violent verses, and it is specifically for the submission and or death of all infidels, in all places for all times… forever. The ‘bible’, the Torah, has some violence in it, but it is specific against specific tribes, specific peoples in a certain time and place. It was never declared against all, as is Islam, and it was never for all times, as is Islam.
      And ‘zionists’ are and do represent jews, but then you don’t like that, do you. You don’t like that that like itty bitty country called Israel, with it 3300 yr history, it’s two holy temples, exists and has it’s right to be in its homeland. In fact, you consider it a crime, against Islam don’t you?
      And I consider Islam a crime against all others.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Would you explain what is being referred to by these passages form the qur’an?

      Prophet Mohammed’s confession:

      “I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”

      — Al-Tabari, The History of Al-Tabari, vol. vi, p. 111

      ‘Then Gabriel came to the apostle and said , “What have you done, Muhammad? You have read to these people something I did not bring you from God and you have said what He did not say to you.”‘

      — Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, p. 166

      There will be no one of you who will not enter it (Hell).

      This was an inevitable decree of your Lord.

      Afterwards he may save some of the pious, God-fearing Muslims out of the burning fire.

      — Sura 19:71-72

  • Beverly

    Whether its cultural or Islam, people are still being killed or harmed (FGM, stoned to death, thrown off buildings).

  • Michael Copeland

    The well-meaning Glenna Barlow makes a common error:
    “We thought it was important to differentiate between radical Islam and the majority of peaceful, devout Muslims…”
    She is not comparing like with like.
    It is like differentiating between the established rules of baseball and the majority of peaceful players – two completely different categories.
    Those dear sweet peaceful devout muslims MAKE NO DIFFERENCE to Islam the ideology: its rules are fixed. Islam is not a Trade Union.

  • Simba

    Takiyya will be implemented the in full force and not to only convince about ” peacefulness” of Islam but for also inducting young converts.Those from unhappy,broken,divorced families should be VERY careful.One American lady who married a Turk has commented that in Turkey along with a husband she has now got a joint family which she missed in the U.S.This is frightening.Just note how many thousands from Russia have got married to Turks,only because of the adverse male/female ratio.Just Google–thousands of wives for Turks from Russia with love.Looks and strong family values are being used here.Worst part is that no single woman seems to have divorced the Turk.That’s exactly why Erdogan asked Putin to continue tourists from Russia and the latter complied.He probably has no choice when the women desire this,apart from other quid pro quo( I don’t know what could they be)

  • iprazhm

    I’m sorry. Just, I’m having a hard time mustering up an ounce even, of sympathy for these useful idiots. They have the truth all around them, it hasn’t been kept from them, but they want to be accepting of islam because multiculturalism is just so very important, and they want to feel important. Their favorite television personalities tell them it’s so!!!!

  • Jack Holan

    It looks like in the right setting, an ignorant audience on the topic, a smooth (religious) has the ability to Buffon (smooth talk) over probably an intelligent group of people. The only option to counter this is a wine and dine sitdown with small groups to count it.
    The Imam sowed his hand at least twice regarding our values and Constitution. When he instructed the group that the next time they hear a speaker misinforming the public about Islam to shout them down. The second UnConstitutional point out Imam makes is teaching about Islam in Public Schools over other Religions because there is a Greater Need. I guess during his study of the Quran and Hadith the Imam didn’t read the US Constitution and Supreme Court Decisions that prohibit teaching Religion in Public School and no Government Body can set one Religion above another like Obama illegally succeeded in doing with his Executive Orders. That Thank G-d is the past

  • St. Hahn

    I’ve got a few questions that I would ask. I understand Muhammad is considered a perfect example of human conduct, did he have any faults? How many wives did he have? Why did he have more than other Muslims are allowed? Tell us about Muhammad’s 11th wife, Safiyah bint Huyayy. What about his 3rd wife? The Koran was said to be verbally revealed by God to Muhammad over a period of 23 years but he never wrote any of it down. Muhammad could not read or write. How can we trust any of it to be the true word of God, in Arabic or any language?

  • Mark Goldberg

    So, I’d ask the imam: over 1500 people were murdered by muslims during Ramadan this year, around the globe. About 4500 or so were wounded. This is typical of Ramadan, every year. This is the ‘holy’ month of Islam and it involved increased attacks upon non muslims. This is not due to ignorance of muslims who don’t understand their Qu’ran, this is those who are following the teachings of their imams and the Quran. In attacks around the globe this last year, in America- where a party organized for two muslims on the birth of their child by non muslims was reciprocated by those muslims by slaughtering everyone in the room- some 14 or so. This was not because they misunderstood the Quran, but because they were taught the Jihad against ‘infidels’ unbelievers, and in Paris, a nightclub had some 150 or so people slaughtered, literally, with women having their breasts cut off, men having their genitals cut off, and this was not some ugly random cherry picked event that never happens by muslims but rather is the norm for Jihadists, who follow the 98% of all the Islamic teachings on Jihad, that making war on unbelievers is holy. For you to come here and say that we’re all one, in monotheism is disingenuous because, first, you take no responsibility for the 280 millions of people slaughtered in the name of Islam, you take no responsibility for the enslavement of mega millions even today, by Islam and muslims, and you come here telling these people that Islam loves their prophets, and them and we are one. That is not accurate and not true. The Quran has 109 verses of violence against non believers and jews and christians are specifically called to submit and pay the terrible taxes that make them 3rd class citizens across Islamic law and belief- there is no such equality for all others that you claim, nowhere in Islam.
    When Mohammed wrote in Mecca in his quran, early in his career- ‘Listen to what they (unbelievers) say with patience, and leave them with dignity’, it was later abrogated, as are all the earlier commands, for the later ones, specifically in the Quran 8:12 ‘Then your Lord spoke to his angels and said ‘I will be with you. Give strength to the believers. I will send terror in the unbelievers hears, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”

    This is not some cherry picked misunderstood verse. When muslims not merely slaughter non muslims, but do hideous disembowling it is not some rare psychopathic anomaly. In mumbai back in 09′ or so, in India, the muslims killed some 164 people, and I mean slaughtered them indescriiminatey, and even went to a Jewish religious home, specifically to slaughter a young rabbi and his wife who was 8 months pregnant. They slaughtered her, they cut out the fetus, and they cut off the genitals of the rabbi, this in their religious home. This was not some anomaly, some misunderstanding, and I can show you hundreds more of such events, but you come here preening about how you come as a fellow monotheist and how we should all just understand you and not feel any negative feelings about anything, even as we are being lied to and misled.
    Last we should remember that at the beginning of this nations independence, it was attacked by muslim pirates in the mediterranean sea, and Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, ambassadors to France and England asked the muslim ambassador why they were attacked:

    they questioned Ambassador Adja as to the source of the unprovoked animus directed at the nascent United States republic. Jefferson and Adams, in their subsequent report to the Continental Congress, recorded the Tripolitan Ambassador’s justification:

    “… that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.’

    Indeed, Imam, I accuse you of willfully misleading these folks and disguising your intensions and taking not one iota of responsibility for the terrible, terrible attacks upon humanity by Islam, since it’s founding, right up to today, across the globe and in the US. Shame on you.
    But shame on all the rest of you US citizens if you don’t allow yourself to examine the data and see if you indeed are being mislead, and even lied too.

  • freepetta

    Bring a concealed weapon in case one of the SAVAGES decide to jihad Columbia University. People are so damn naive. They think Muslims are “PEACEFUL” what a joke!!!

  • Korinne

    I wanted to go to this but I have to work for a living so I don’t have time to hang out in art museums and argue with Imam’s practicing taqiya.

  • Stefanie Daniella

    it’s clear these muhammadans think a “virtuous life” leads to the ideal afterlife outcome (muslim paradise, christian heaven, less time in papal roman purgatory, whatever)

    but they, as many others, mistaken fake christianity (roman catholics + spinoffs) … “there are none (humans) good, not one!”
    for
    real true christians who are saved (heavenbound) by being ATONED (Jesus’ own-perfect-self “God’s blood” sacrifice washing all sins of the believer, making them “holy” = “unblemished” saint, all sin-debts of death “covered” = atoned) which allows them to have an eternal afterlife in heaven with friend/fellowship with God. the believer is a repentant self-confessed openly blemished (imperfect) mortal sinner, saved by their faith in the effectiveness of God’s “need only one once” sacrifice of Jesus at Calvary, so long ago … a DONE DEAL.

    so all those who got to heaven, are all holy there by Christ
    none are holy by “self-worked-virtue” (all such are as “filthy rags”) and never accepted by biblical God

    when folks set up interviews between muhammadans and so-called non-muslims (christians, real or fake), they never disclose the vast difference between real christians and pseudo-faux-facsimile fake christianistic-flavored unbelievers (as big a difference as atheist is to real christians)

    after eden:
    all virtuous-toil/work like Cain, the cursed-earth-tiller farmer
    was INSUFFICIENT
    vs
    all God-provided unblemished-life-sacrificed like the Lamb by Abel’s “offer-back” (from God, back to God) was SUFFICIENT, albeit briefly, until Jesus’ self-sacrifice SUFFICIENCY was FOREVER.

    so, it is, for uswards, by Jesus Christ alone, we enter Heaven

  • Citizen Survivor

    Islam is a death cult populated by filthy psychopaths.

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