“Apology” of CA imam Shahin who invoked Muhammad’s hadith of Jew annihilation claims he’s a “model” for Muslim youth

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Indeed. Muhammad, too is the “perfect model” for Muslims to follow. Which is why child marriage, holy war, creed apartheid, gender apartheid, Jew-hatred, sex slavery are rampant — it’s all enshrined in Muslim law.

American Muslim leaders not condemning genocidal US imams.

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Fox News is reporting Jewish groups have asked Homeland Security and the U.S. Attorney’s office to investigate a California Imam who gave a sermon calling on Allah to “annihilate” Jews “down to the very last one” — and asked for his congregants to take part in the slaughter.

Imam Ammar Shahin gave the sermon at the Islamic Center of Davis, California on Friday. He asked for Allah to liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Israel from “the filth of the Jews,” according to a translation by the Middle East Media Research Institute, and cited an Islamic text that calls for a Judgement Day fight between Muslims and Jews.

“Oh Allah, count them one by one and annihilate them down to the very last one. Do not spare any of them,” said Shahin, who spoke in both Arabic and English during his sermon. “Oh Allah, make this happen by our hands. Let us play a part in this. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds.”

“The Prophet Muhammad said: ‘Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews… Oh Allah, liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews…. Oh Allah, count them one by one and annihilate them down to the very last one. Do not spare any of them…Oh Allah, make this happen by our hands. Let us play a part in this. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds.” *

“The sermon is very antisemitic and violent, much like many sermons in the mosques of the Middle East,” MEMRI Executive Director Steven Stalinsky told Fox News in a statement. “It is not surprising that the imam/mosque are denying this and saying that it is incorrect or out of context. In fact, there were two different sermons from California mosques this week, both of them calling for destroying/annihilating the Jews.”

MEMRI Responds To Islamic Center Of Davis’s Statement Following Exposure Of Imam Shahin’s July 21 Antisemitic Sermon

This week, MEMRI released a clip of a July 21, 2017 sermon by Imam Ammar Shahin at the Islamic Center of Davis (ICD) in Davis, California in which he prayed, in Arabic, to “liberate Al-Aqsa from the filth of the Jews… Oh Allah, count them one by one and annihilate them down to the very last one. Do not spare any of them.”

In response, the ICD released a press statement stating: “MEMRI, an extremist agenda driven organization that supports Israel’s occupation of Palestinian land, and other Islamophobic news organizations, accused Imam Shahin of anti-Semitism, quoting edited, mistranslated, passages of the sermon out of context.” (Read the full statement here). 

On July 26, Imam Shahin’s sermon was condemned by California members of Congress John Garamendi and Brad Sherman (see Appendix I).

Today, MEMRI translated yet another sermon by Imam Shahin at the ICD, from July 14, 2017, in which he made similar statements.

The following is MEMRI’s response to the ICD’s allegations.

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Response By MEMRI

Imam Shahin is one of a group of extremist preachers who have been exposed by MEMRI to be delivering incitement to hatred and violence (see Appendix II for list of these). Like the others, after being exposed, Imam Shahin and the Islamic Center of Davis are trying to deflect responsibility from themselves by issuing all kinds of mendacious and libelous statements against the entity that exposed them.

The inciting messages in Imam Shahin’s prayer were absolutely in context; here is the sermon in full from the YouTube channel of the ICD. The viewer can use their own judgment.

The message in the Imam’s prayer is clear and coherent, and MEMRI’s translation was absolutely accurate. It should be noted that Imam Shahin referred neither to “Israelis” nor to “Zionists,” but to “the Jews.” Imam Shahin also made similar statements in his July 14 Friday sermon, which was also posted on the ICD’s YouTube channel (view it here).

The libelous accusations against MEMRI are untrue, inasmuch as they are irrelevant to Imam Shahin’s inciting prayer. Additionally, the messages in his July 21 prayer are in line with his messages in the prayer from his sermon the previous week, on July 14 (see below MEMRI transcripts of the July 21 and July 14 sermons).

In contrast to the allegations by the ICD, MEMRI is a bipartisan, nonprofit organization that has been translating and analyzing the media of the Arab and Muslim world for nearly two decades (www.memri.org). One of our most important projects is our Tom Lantos Archives on Antisemitism, named after Congressman Tom Lantos, the only Holocaust survivor to serve in Congress; in this project, we present content and figures like Imam Shahin as well as voices who oppose this. Sadly, hundreds of examples of such statements by sheikhs and imams, in both the Middle East and the West, can be found on our website.

Everything that MEMRI does in our work at the Lantos archives and at its nearly annual event, at which we present this material on Capitol Hill and feature brave Muslim reformists speaking out against it, has support from members of Congress from both sides of the political aisle. We work very closely with members from California, including Nancy Pelosi and Brad Sherman, who have both spoken at our events, and of course Tom Lantos himself was a representative from California. Our work is also supported by leadership ranging from John Kerry, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton to Paul Ryan, John McCain, and many others.

One of MEMRI’s flagship projects is our Reform Project; it is devoted entirely to amplifying the voices of reformists, moderates, and liberal activists in the Middle East, and to working with leading Muslim reformists and imams from around the world who are bravely speaking out against the kind of incitement and hatred expressed by Imam Shahin.

Also, MEMRI’s Board of Advisors has a number of prominent and influential Muslims on it.

It should be noted that over the past two years we have translated sermons by imams, sheikhs, and preachers in Canada, Germany, Australia, Spain, Italy, and Denmark that have included statements and quotes almost identical to those in Imam Shahin’s sermons – and this has led to criminal cases against these individuals.

Making excuses for Imam Shahin’s statements amounts to supporting his message, and that would be most unfortunate. The tactic of defaming and shooting the messenger relieves Imam Shahin and the ICD of responsibility for hate speech. This can only lead to further incitement that might lead young people who are under his influence to carry out hate crimes of their own.

 

Transcripts Of MEMRI Clips Of Imam Shahin’s Sermons, July 14 And July 21, 2017

Imam Ammar Shahin Prays To Allah To Turn Jerusalem And Palestine Into A Graveyard For The Jews And Liberate The Al-Aqsa Mosque From “Their Filth” –  July 14, 2017

The following is the transcript of the MEMRI clip from Imam Shahin’s July 14 sermon (view the clip on MEMRI.org here):

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Sheikh Ammar Shahin: “It is incumbent upon every Muslim – I am not saying ‘every Muslim emir,’ or ‘caliph,’ or ‘king,’ or ‘president” – every Muslim who attests that there is no god but Allah, every Muslim who accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his religion, and Muhammad as his Prophet… It is incumbent upon him to support his brothers in Palestine, even if only through prayer – and I am not saying ‘even if only through prayer’ out of weakness. By Allah, the Prophet Muhammad told us, in many narrations – and there is no time to list all of them now – that prayer is the strongest weapon that Muslims have. By Allah, brothers, it is stronger than the weapons of the Jews, the deceit of the Jews, and their wickedness.

[…]

“The Al-Aqsa Mosque is besieged, and there are no prayers in it. Those wicked Jews are prohibiting prayer there, so how can one not pray to Allah at night, because he is busy with his food, his drink, his children, or his country, his circumstances, or things that happen to him? Isn’t there a single wise man among us?

[…]

“We are not talking about children who are dying from hunger because of what the Jews are doing to them. We are not talking about Gaza and the women who are getting raped, the children who are getting killed, and the infants who are getting killed. We are not talking about any of that. We are talking about the mosque today only. We are talking about the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

[…]

“May Allah protect the Al-Aqsa Mosque from the harm of the Jews. Oh Allah, protect our brothers in the land of Palestine. Oh Allah, let us pray in the Al-Aqsa Mosque before we die. Oh Allah, allow Jerusalem to be liberated. Oh Allah, liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews.

“Oh Allah, show us the wonders of Your ability that you inflict upon them. Oh Allah, show us the black day that You inflict upon them. Oh Allah, show us the black day that You inflict upon those who wish ill upon [the Al-Aqsa] Mosque. Oh Allah, keep them preoccupied with one another, and make a deterrent example out of them. Oh Allah, count them one by one and destroy them down to the very last one. Do not spare any of them. Oh Allah, destroy them and do not spare their young or their elderly. Oh Allah, show us the black day that You inflict upon those who occupy Palestine. Oh Allah, show us the wonders of Your ability that you inflict upon them. Oh Allah, turn Jerusalem and Palestine into a graveyard for the Jews.”

 

Imam Ammar Shahin Cites Antisemitic Hadith, Prays For Annihilation Of Jews, And Calls To Liberate Al-Aqsa Mosque From Their “Filth” – July 21, 2017

The following is the transcript of the MEMRI clip from Imam Shahin’s July 21 sermon (view the clip on MEMRI.org here):

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Sheikh Ammar Shahin: “Allah does not change the situation of people ‘until they change their own situation.’ The Prophet Muhammad said: ‘Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews hide behind stones and trees, and the stones and the trees say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah…’ They will not say: Oh Egyptian, oh Palestinian, oh Jordanian, oh Syrian, oh Afghan, oh Pakistani. The Prophet Muhammad says that they time will come, the Last Hour will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews. We don’t say if it is in Palestine or another place. Until they fight… When that war breaks out, they will run and hide behind every rock, and house, and wall, and trees. The house, the wall, and the tress will call upon the Muslims. It will say: Oh Muslim… It will not say: Oh Palestinian, oh Egyptian, oh Syrian, oh Afghan, oh Pakistani, oh Indian… No, it will say: Oh Muslim. Muslim. When Muslims come back… ‘Come, there is someone behind me – except for the Gharqad tree, which is the tree of the Jews. Except for a certain tree that they are growing today in Palestine, in that area, except this form of tree, which they are growing today… That’s the tree that will not speak to the Muslims.

[…]

“Oh Allah, support the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the rest of the Muslim lands. Oh Allah, liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews. Oh Allah, destroy those who closed the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Oh Allah, show us the black day that You inflict upon them, and the wonders of Your ability. Oh Allah, count them one by one and annihilate them down to the very last one. Do not spare any of them.

[…]

“Oh Allah, liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Oh Allah, make this happen by our hands. Let us play a part in this. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds. Oh Allah, let us support them in words and in deeds.”

 

APPENDIX I: California Members Of Congress John Garamendi And Brad Sherman React To Imam Shahin’s Statements

On July 26, 2017, Congressman John Garamendi (D-CA) issued a press statement in reaction to Imam Shahin’s statements:[1]

WASHINGTON, DC –Today, Congressman John Garamendi (D-Fairfield, Davis, Yuba City, CA), issued the following statement in response to the sermon delivered in Davis on Friday by Imam Ammar Shahin at the Islamic Center of Davis:

“The sermon apparently delivered on Friday by Imam Ammar Shahin is outrageous and unacceptable. Hateful, anti-Semitic language has no place anywhere in America, and certainly not in Davis. The Islamic Center of Davis has a long tradition of cooperation with other faith groups, and I am extremely disappointed that this tradition appears to have been flagrantly violated by this hateful rhetoric.”

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Also on July 26, Congressman Brad Sherman (D-CA) commented on Imam Shahin’s statements. It read:

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“It is unacceptable for anyone, anywhere, and at any time to call to annihilate Jews or any other religious or ethnic group. Imam Shahin’s rhetoric was nothing short of a call for genocide.

“I call upon the Islamic Center of Davis to terminate the employment of Mr. Ammar Shahin, to declare that he is ineligible for any future employment, and to permanently bar him from attendance at the mosque or at any of its facilities. I further call upon every organization to permanently bar Mr. Shahin from all of their activities and disassociate itself from the Islamic Center of Davis until it permanently disassociates itself from Mr. Shahin.

“In particular, I have contacted the following organizations and urged them to inform me when Mr. Shahin would be barred from participation in their activities and whether the Islamic Center of Davis would be likewise barred until it completely severs its relationship with Mr. Shahin. The organizations contacted are as follows: the University of California, Davis (the Islamic Center is located across the street from its campus), the Council on American Relations (CAIR), The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), The Islamic Society of North America, The American Muslim Council, and all interfaith organizations in the greater Sacramento area including Celebration of Abraham (A local Yolo County interfaith organization, of which the Islamic Center of Davis is a member).

“I commend Mrs. Shireen Qudosi, the Director of Muslim Matters at America Matters for starting a petition urging the Islamic Center of Davis to terminate Mr. Shahin’s employment.”

 

APPENDIX II: Other Imams, Sheikhs, And Preachers In The West Making Statements Similar To Imam Shahin’s

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santashandler
santashandler
6 years ago

Interesting how, when called to answer for his inflammatory comments, he didn’t apologize. No, he turned it around to make himself look good. Its also interesting to note that whenever these bastards refer to Allah, they NEVER use ‘forgiving’ or ‘loving’ to describe him. What this Imam has done is outright incitement, which is a crime. Instead of “demanding” the mosques fire these imams, the ineffective congressmen should be calling for charges against them. But, they are too worried about reelection than public safety

gia
gia
6 years ago
Reply to  santashandler

exactly, it’s all about wrath and the undoing of anyone who isn’t Muslim. Never love or compassion or understanding ! always always, its about vengence violence and hurting and killing , yet we are supposed to welcome this to our doorsteps, embrace and accept our annihalaters!

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Jessicajlight
6 years ago
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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

“Our prophet, pubh, was a man who always acted out of wisdom, humility, compassion and fairness to everyone he encountered”. Of all the recent lies that imams dedicate from the pulpits in mosques, this is only one more.
This is a muslim supplication that is chanted in mecca by followers of the fool mutgonad, police beat upon him.
“Also shown was a snippet of formal prayers at Mecca, Islam’s holiest city. As Muslims circumambulated around the Ka’ba, the following supplications were blasted on a megaphone, chanted to by Islam’s devotees:

O Allah vanquish the unjust Christians and the criminal Jews, the unjust traitors; strike them with your wrath; make their lives hostage to misery; drape them with endless despair, unrelenting pain and unremitting ailment; fill their lives with sorrow and pain and end their lives in humiliation and oppression; inflict your tortures and punishments upon the unjust Christians and criminal Jews. This is our supplication, Allah; grant us our request”!

lostlegends
lostlegends
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

That SOB’s mosque is 50 miles west of me. They must be warming up, I take it as a signal to the bull pen. They must feel safe and strong enough to start launching attacks in Sacramento now. Where’s the FBI??

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  lostlegends

Federal bureau ion islam, where they always have been, behind the scenes makeing sure that the puppet show of national security follows the democrat script.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The ugly truth. I wonder how many muslums work for the F-I_B these days?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Lots, still infestations left over from the o’bimbo caliphate.

name
name
6 years ago

Note – Please read the following comment dispassionately and rationally, without getting carried away by emotions –

If nazis had won –

– There would be no muslim colonization of europe today
– There would be no muslim invasion through mass immigration of europe today
– There would be no muslim terrorist attacks in the west today
– There would be no endangerment of the caucasian race, because of low fertility today
– There would be no rapes of non-muslim women by muslims today
– There would be no partially segregated muslim zones and muslim enclaves in europe today
– There would be no sharia in the west today
– There would be no ongoing islamization of the west today

Above all, there would be no risk of islamic takeover of the western civilization today

I dislike nazism, but someone had to say it.

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago
Reply to  name

You apparently don’t realize that Haj amin al husseini, the mufti who lived in Berlin during WWII, and had the favor of Hitler, and many of the leadership was beloved by them for muslim jew hatred, and hatred of christianity, and that had the nazi’s won, why there would have been ten times the amount of Islamization of the world, due to that alliance.

hmmmm
hmmmm
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

Kid, I have known about husseini since long before you even learned what islam is.

“there would have been ten times the amount of Islamization” – This shows your ignorance.

Do you not know that at the core of islam, is the mandate to destroy everything un-islamic?

How do you think a nazi europe would have reacted to this, after finding this out? Imagine a muslim, allahu akbaring a bunch of nazis at the disco. Or imagine a bunch of muslims, mass raping nazi women, at nazi new year celebration.

Just imagine…..and you will get your answer.

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago
Reply to  hmmmm

You don’t actually understand the tyranny’s they represent, and hence your poor understanding. The nazi’s who escaped to the middle east became muslims. It has a god, who outlives the political leader ( think Hitler and his methadone riddles body dying, a few years after his conquering) who would have lead the masses then, and by what theology. Islam was the teacher to naziism, and would have indeed swallowed it up in one fashion or another. That’s what would have happened. Oh, and braggadocio does not make for good logical thinking and speculation…

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

You two write quite similarly. Meowing and mooing and ad hominem.

Geuilio Miotta wrote back in 2013 or so: “At the top of the most wanted list of the Simon Wiesenthal Center there is a man who today would be one hundred years old. His name is Alois Brunner and he is responsible for the deaths of over 130,000 Jews. The Nazi hunters still place him in Syria, where he was last seen in 2001, protected by the regime of Bashar al-Assad.

Brunner was one of the most zealous ideologues and officials of the “Final Solution”, the plan for the extermination of the Jews. The idea haunted him to the point that in 1985 he said to the German magazine Bunte: “I regret that I didn’t finish the job”.

When the United Arab Republic of Syria was formed, Dr. Brunner took up residence at 7 George Haddad, in the embassy district of Damascus. In 1961, the year that Adolf Eichmann was captured by the Israelis in Buenos Aires, Brunner received a bomb-letter, probably from the Mossad and lost an eye.

Brunner, a personal friend of Hafez el Assad, took part in the construction of Syria’s secret services on the model of the Gestapo.

In November 1967, the neo-Nazi organization Bund Heimattreuer Jugend published in Esslingen Hegensberg, West Germany, the obituary of Karl van Kynast: “Lieutenant (res.) of the Bundeswehr, Captain in the army of the United Arab Republic, he felt at the Suez Canal on 12 September, 1967”.

Brunner is, in fact, only the best known of a number of Nazi officials who participated in the construction of of the Islamic regimes and who died in those lands after converting to Islam.

This alliance between the Nazi swastika and the Islamic Koran is well explained in a 1942 article written by Johann von Leers, the best known of Nazi converts to Islam. Published in the newspaper “Die Judenfrage”, the article presented Judaism and Islam in terms of Hegel’s thesis and antithesis: “The hostility of Muhammad towards the Jews had a consequence: the Oriental Jews were totally paralyzed. If the rest of the world had adopted a similar policy, we would not have the ‘Jewish question’. Islam has made an eternal service to the world by preventing the conquest of Arabia by the Jews”.

One of the leaders of the “Jewish Affairs” in Galicia, Altern Erich, converted to Islam and took the name of “Ali Bella” in Egypt, where he trained Palestinian terrorists.

Leopold Gleim was known through his original name as a head of the Gestapo in Poland, but became “Ali al- Nahar” at the service of the Egyptian dictator Nasser.

Oskar Dirlewanger, after killing tens of thousands of Jews in the Ukraine, became the bodyguard of the Egyptian dictator. Dr. Heinrich Willerman, famous for some of the most atrocious experiments at Dachau, and directed the terrorist “Camp Samarra” in Egypt.

After having “liquidated” the Warsaw ghetto, Kurt Baurnann joined the Ministry of War in Cairo and trained the Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

The head of the Gestapo in Düsseldorf, Joachim Daemling, went to work at the Egyptian prison system.

Even François Genoud, the famous banker of Nazism, testamentary heir of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Goebbels, used the war treasure of the Reich to finance the Arab- Muslim anti-Jewish causes, and in 1959, gave birth to “International Association of Friends of the Arab World”.

Walter Rauff, who invented the “gas vans” which killed at 97,000 Jews during the Holocaust, in 1948 tortured Jews in Damascus.

Boeckler Wilhelm became “Abd al Karim”, the SS Wilhelm Berner instructed Palestinian terrorists, the SS Gruppenführer Alois Moser became “Hassan Sulayman”.

In Cairo lived Hans Eisele, “Dr. Eisele”, who in Dachau became notorious for torturing prisoners with injections of cyanide. Even Otto Skorzeny, the SS commander who freed Mussolini from his prison on the Gran Sasso, lived in Cairo, where he perfected the Intelligence Services of Nasser’s regime.

Among the collaborators of Skorzeny there was also an official of the Goebbels Ministry of Propaganda, Franz Buensch, an “expert on the Jewish problem” who had worked with Adolf Eichmann on the “Final Solution” and had also written a book entitled “Sexual Habits of the Jews”, perhaps the most repugnant document produced by the Nazis.

In the Egyptian capital there was another infamous doctor, Aribert Heim, “Dr. Tod”, Dr. Death, so named because of the cruelty of his experiments in the camps of Buchenwald, Sachsenhausen and Mauthausen. Heim converted to Islam under the name of “Tarek Hussein Farid”. He sported an Islamic beard, he went to the al Azhar mosque every morning and read the Koran in the German translation.

The collaborator of Goebbels, Johann von Leers, was solemnly received in Cairo by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini: “We thank you for having fought against the powers of darkness incarnated by world Jewry”. After converting to Islam, Von Leers assumed the name of “Omar Amin von Leers” and in Cairo occupied many posts in the administration of Nasser.

When Tom Cruise in 2008 produced the movie “Valkyrie”, Major Otto Ernst Remer, who in the film has the face of Thomas Kretschmann, was portrayed as a key figure in the bloody suppression of the conspiracy that tried to assassinate Adolf Hitler. In 1993, an Egyptian newspaper interviewed Remer, who hailed the Khomeini revolution, said that the gas chambers were “lies” and who compared the defeat of Nazi Germany to that of the Palestinian Arabs, “both victims of the Jews, both suffered under occupation”.

And how to forget that neo-Nazis helped Yasser Arafat in 1972’s Munich massacre?

This is not an exotic, distant story, it sheds a dramatic light on the existential war between political Islam and the Jews.

While reading these and other stories of Nazi officials who fought for Islam, I am reminded of the project of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haji Amin al Hussein, who planned to install a gas chamber and a crematorium near Nablus/Shechem. That is the real “occupation”, that of a genocidal and totalitarian ideology at war with the Jews in their own land

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

You’re entitled to your own opinions ( I’m being polite ) but not your own facts

Mark GoldbergD
Mark Goldberg
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Goldberg

well…. that certainly explains it :^)))

gia
gia
6 years ago
Reply to  name

I was surprised to learn of the connection between Islam and the Nazi regieme it’s not a connection alot are familiar with but nonetheless does exist.
I get what you trying to say but sorry this is a misunderstanding on your part.
This isn’t something that can be simplified either.

Chair Chill
Chair Chill
6 years ago
Reply to  name

The Muslims / progressives are bad (down right horrible), but a Nazi victory in the 20th century would have been worse than what we have now, for several reasons:

1) A defeat of the allied forces would have spelled doom to the free world
a) Gas / Mineral rich Russia would have made a deal with a triumphant Germany or possibly even become a de facto German protectorate…
b) The Muslim, oil / gas rich middle east would be a natural allay to Nazi Germany (both are viscerally antisemitic with an imperialistic world view)
A triumphant Germany (+ Japan, Italy and a total colonization of Africa) would be able to totally corner the global energy market to the detriment of America and any other remaining opposition to Germany
2) A Nazi victory (murdered about 1/3 of total Jews) would have finished the Jewish people as viable entity and with that their sizable / invaluable contributions to the betterment of the world (high technology / water, agricultural, medical innovation / vital military intelligence within the hostile Muslim world etc) – The demise of the Jews (as a viable people returning to their homeland) would also destroy the foundations of Judaeo Christian heritage in the west and empower the pro Muslim / Antisemitic (Nazi or otherwise) progressive elements of western society even more…
3) Just like the Muslims are exploiting the sheer, colossal stupidity of all progressives in the west that lick their muslim arses with feverish ecstasy, it is more then likely that post victory Nazi Germany, would also decay (just like western Europe is decaying today) and be plucked (within one generation) like ripe, low hanging fruit by the filthy claws of Islam… If that would have happened, we were all become muslims…

I think the galactic in proportions arrogance of Islam + the sheer, eternal depths of progressive stupidity, are fast reaching critical mass toward major over kill that will bring a wide and deep societal REACTION which will halt both corrosive powers to a grinding halt and usher a major reversal (with in the next 5-10 years)

Be patient / vigilant, the arrogant / stupid muzlims / progressives, are going to lose this war, BIG TIME!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Chair Chill

There’s no way Stalin would have EVER made peace w/the Nazis, not after tens of millions of Soviet comrades were slaughtered by the Nazis.

Halkirk
Halkirk
6 years ago
Reply to  name

Your omission of the obvious ‘There would be no more Jews’ stands in stark contrast.
If all the Jews were to have been annihilated by the nazis there’s a good chance you wouldn’t have been able to post your message because the Printed Circuit Board (PCB) wouldn’t have been invented which is in a computers nor the Cell Phone.
https://www.historyandheadlines.com/10-great-jewish-contributions-mankind/

Covadonga
Covadonga
6 years ago
Reply to  name

Germans in WWI started the Islamisation of Europe by bringing in Turkish Muslims from their ally, Turkey, to work in German factories when the young German men were on the front fighting.

Instead of Rosie the Riveter, they shipped in Raheem the Riveter.

In desperation to stop the raping, enslaving German army from further advancing into France, at a time when so many Frenchmen had fallen to German bullets, the French undertook the unprecedented, extreme measure of bringing Muslim troops from the French colonies in Africa onto French soil to help in the war effort. These were the first substantial groups of Muslims to settle in Western Europe since 1492.

The British, too, brought in soldiers and other personnel, some of them Muslim, from their colonies. (Mohandas Gandhi, a Hindu, organized an Indian ambulance corps to transport wounded soldiers to hospital.)

That’s right – Muslims have been living in the heart of Europe 100 years now, thanks to none other than your friends, the Germans.

Nazis enlarged on everything the Kaiser did, and arranged for Yasser Arafat’s cousin and political inspiration, Haj Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, (the same one mentioned by Mark Goldberg in this thread) to have a regular radio show that was broadcast in all the Vichy French colonies throughout Africa and the Middle East, and was hugely popular among the thuggish Muslim population there. The show focused on Jew-hatred and praise of your friends, Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers’ Party. It is credited with creating a 20th century revival of the age-old social ill of Islamic Jew-hatred.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago
Reply to  Covadonga

I am familiar with material which documents the wartime and post-war connection between Nazis and Muslims. I also occasionally come across snippets of information such as yours which indicate prior alliances – with some comments suggesting the associations could stretch back to medieval times. However I have not come across sources that substantiate the connections at all and would be obliged if you could point me towards any you know of.

Covadonga
Covadonga
6 years ago

Here is one, dealing with the ties between Europe and Islam in Medieval times:

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Above all, it meant, by sheer impact of force and time, the gradual adoption by the Christians of many of the characteristics of their Muslim foes. Thus by the eleventh and twelfth centuries Christian kings in Spain and southern Italy reigned over arabized courts and had adopted typically Muslim (and utterly non-Christian) customs, such as polygamy. The most famous, or infamous, example of this was the Emperor Frederick II, “the baptized sultan of Sicily,” who kept an expensive harem guarded by eunuchs. [18]
[end quote]

That quoted from the excellent counter-jihadist historian and thinker Emmet Scott, in the epilogue of his seminal book Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited: the History of a Controversy. His quotation inside that quote is from Hugh Trevor-Roper, The Rise of Christian Europe.

Scott’s entire epilogue is probably highly relevant to your question. His book and its sequel, The Impact of Islam, are both must-reads for any counter-jihadist who wants to understand the modern world in terms of where it came from.

On the more recent subject of the origin of 20th century Islamic immigration to the West, I think you can search the web for very general works on immigration and on the economics of the Kaiser’s Germany during the Great War, with respect to manpower shortages. As far as I am aware, both counter-jihadists and their archnemeses, the dhimmwitted left wingnut kooks, are in full agreement that it started in WWI with Germany bringing workers from their Ottoman ally.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago
Reply to  Covadonga

I very much appreciate that information. Indeed I can track down information for the 20th century and your references for the medieval period give me a good starting point there. Actually I remember Hugh Trevor-Roper’s name from a Reformation Europe history course I did in the 1970s. In those days he and Geoffrey Elton were the SMEs on all matters European and to comprehend their texts was to know all about Europe!

I have ordered the Emmet Scott book and look forward to receiving and reading that. I was always more interested in studying the history of northern Europe but now that I have rekindled my knowledge of Islam I will find it helpful to become better acquainted with the southern region.

You must have done a considerable amount of study in your time as your comments reveal a breadth of knowledge which very few have. I have learned a great deal from your perceptive posts and thank you for them.

Covadonga
Covadonga
6 years ago

You are very kind, Milady.

Glad to have been of assistance.

Please be aware that Mr. Scott changed a few of his important conclusions between writing M&CR and writing his next book, Impact. I’m thinking especially of his take on Muhammad’s alleged massacres of Jews at places like Medina and Khaybar, and the potential effect of news of same on the Sephardim (Spanish Jews.)

The obvious causes of his reversals are two:

1.) The additional research on Spanish issues he did between the two publications, as a result of the different emphasis of Impact, which dealt primarily with European problems in the time period immediately following that covered by M&CR.

2.) The appearance in print of Robert Spencer’s Did Muhammad Exist? An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins, which was written after M&CR, but before Impact. Mr. Spencer used a comparison between rather dubious older written sources and a mixture of solid archaeological data and newly discovered written sources to cast a great deal of doubt on the veracity of the traditional Muslim tales concerning the beginnings of their own faith and of their own first Caliphate. This doubt had an obvious effect on Mr. Scott’s thinking.

Also, there is another book presenting neo-Pirennist thinking, John J. O’Neill’s Holy Warriors: Islam and the Demise of Classical Civilization. Due to the close similarities in topics, structure, and even wording between this work and M&CR, I have always assumed it to be a different draft of that work, albeit written under a different nom de plume, and including greater coverage of medieval Christian, especially Irish and English, art and letters.

If the Book of Kells, other illuminated manuscripts, and royal decorative objects of the Medieval period are your thing, I highly recommend this book, or at least its later chapters, as an adjunct to M&CR. If they are not your thing, I suggest that if you take a look at those chapters, and in particular at their illustrations, you might find a new interest!

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago
Reply to  Covadonga

Apologies for my delayed reply to thank you for this additional information. I now have Emmet Scott’s M&C book, together with Andrew Bostom’s The Legacy of… trilogy but as always, in between maintaining currency with the blogs and sites I follow, there is precious little time available for reading. I have also been following with great interest Alexander Shah’s articles on this site and get sidetracked with re-appraising myself of the history of Islam in the Balkans.

Thank you for pointing me towards O’Neill. I do enjoy illuminated manuscripts but prefer viewing them in their place of origin. As I live on the opposite side of the world travel costs dictate my trips to Europe are rather more infrequent than I would otherwise intend but when I next get the opportunity to venture over I will take a look at the book’s later chapters for inspiration. Thank you again; I appreciate the willing and generous manner with which you share your breadth of knowledge.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TO THIS?

“Fox News is reporting Jewish groups have asked Homeland Security and the U.S. Attorney’s office to investigate a California Imam who gave a sermon calling on Allah to “annihilate” Jews “down to the very last one” — and asked for his congregants to take part in the slaughter.”

Who is replacing John Kelly as head of Homeland Security? I’d LOVE it if it was Rudy Gulliani.

Covadonga
Covadonga
6 years ago

If Islamic morality is your standard (i.e. if you are a thug) then he’s exactly right.

In mosque-attending circles, killing the Jews down to the very last one, and all the rest, is noncontroversial. It’s all very standard, vanilla-flavored Islam, as enunciated by one of Satan’s Little Helpers from al-Azhar University. You can tell by his red and white hat that’s where he went to school.

With that kind of academic pedigree, he is the best possible example for your kids, if your goal is for them to grow up as vicious little Muslims.

R. Arandas
R. Arandas
6 years ago

Truly, I am not sure how anyone today could see Muhammad as a beneficial role model. True, the Arabian society before Islam was maybe even worse, but Islam’s influence has only brought ruin to the Middle East.

David Feldman
David Feldman
6 years ago

A Muslim cleric calls for the annihilation of Jews multiple times in broad daylight in the middle of a university and it is barely even mentioned in the media. The people in the mosque don’t even object or call for his ouster. Mind boggling. Not only that but some members of the mosque had the audacity to blame the translating organization of bigotry for merely translating the speech.

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