Italian MP Demands Referendum to Leave EU Over Migrants: “Europe is Crashing!’

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The migrant situation in the European Union has soared so out of control that an Italian MP actually demanded a referendum for Italy’s voters to decide on whether to stay or exit the failing bloc.

“Europe is crashing by itself,” said Daniele Toninelli, a 5 Star Movement (M5S) member, to a national television audience.

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Muslim migrants are becoming quite a problem for Italy, and now one MP is demanding voters have the right to decide, a la Brexit, whether to stay with the European Union, or go.

Because of all the open door policies that have let in scores upon scores of migrants and refugees from mostly Muslim nations — migrants and refugees who’ve done little to bolster the EU’s economy, but rather quite a bit to change and degrade its cultural and political demographics.

Here’s the story, from the Express:

5 Star Movement (M5S) member Daniele Toninelli said on TV show InOnda that Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni should consider calling a Brexit-like referendum in order to ensure Italian citizens express their current views on membership of the European bloc.

“Europe is crashing by itself. We’d like to try and save it, but to try and save it we need to make important decisions.”

“And the important decision could be holding a referendum. Even if consultative, it’s a serious political action that gives Italian citizens the chance to show their opinion.”

Over the past few months Toninelli’s party has been particularly critical of the EU and other member states due to the detachment they have shown from Italy’s problems, such as Austria’s threat to close the border should more illegal migrants try to enter the country.

The Southern European country has been welcoming nearly 85,000 migrants since January 2017 as part of Operation Triton, an Italian-controlled security operation conducted by the EU agency FRONTEX.

Toninelli blasted French PM Emmanuel Macron for having “not giving a damn about Italy” despite his statements of solidarity towards the country.

He blamed EU law such as the Dublin III Regulation for the chaotic situation Italy has been forced to face, as it puts full managing and bureaucratic responsibility for migrants on the arriving seaports’ countries.

“A serious Prime Minister who cares about the interests of Italian citizens would have up and left with the €17 billions (£15bn) of public money we give the EU to remain part of the monetary bubble.”

Macron had previously been attacked by Italian socialist MEP Gianni Pittell for his “un-European” indifference towards Italy’s plight for help.

“We’ve all heard what Macron says about Europe but there’s no point in just flexing muscles and making empty statements. We want practical proof, consistent action.”

“I find it incomprehensible that Italy is expected to take in these ships on a daily basis containing hundreds or thousands of migrants and these ships can’t go to other European ports.”

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alfred5
alfred5
6 years ago

Civil wars, famines and tyranny are nothing new to the developing world and so why is it that anyone from Afghanistan , the Middle East or West Africa can troop across the world, then jump into a rubber boat and claim asylum ? Why is it that every Tomas, Dick and Mohammad can suddenly short circuit out immigration rules by gate crashing our borders ..why now and not, say, 30 years ago ?

There was a civil war in Lebanon in the mid 1970s and yet their were no fleets of refugees washing up on the coast of Greece ; there was a famine in Ethiopia in the early 80s and yet there were no columns of displaced people trecking across Africa to claim asylum in Europe …why is it that displaced people from around the world suddenly have the ”right ” to come to the EU ?

Nefarious420D
Nefarious420
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

Refugee jihad is what ISIS said their goals were, and everyone laughs and chuckles to themselves as ISIS words become realty, while declaring it is these made up extremists, who are really just run of the mill islamists.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  Nefarious420

Yes. It takes an amazing twisting of the imagination to make up that ISIS are ‘ made-up extremists’

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

In any war, you first send out patrols to test the enemiy’s strength and weaknesses. ISIS acted as a form of scouting force. Do we have any strengths ?

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Not at the moment.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

Indeed. We used to send aid there or a neighbouring country in which they took refuge!
Bring the third-world here en masse…get the third- world..
They have even brought their diseases with them and as antibiotics are losing efficacy as it is without these diseases; disasters of unprecedented proportions are waiting to emerge, and when they emerge, few will be prepared.
Monstrous and sinister. Such a plan can only be planned by sheer evil.

alfred5
alfred5
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

The population bomb came upon us in a sinister twilight ; but now its here at the same time we have been disarmed with accusations of WAYcism

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

Attacked on all sides, mostly from behind….starting with the chinks in our armour…

MrLogical
MrLogical
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

Or by the UN and the globalists…
But I repeat myself.
.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  MrLogical

Or by the Jews Soros and Rothschilds.

k.b . mcdan
k.b . mcdan
6 years ago
Reply to  MrLogical

One and the same.

k.b . mcdan
k.b . mcdan
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

It has been, the illuminati. I have read the pope is a card carrying member. He sure talks the talk.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  k.b . mcdan

Nothing would surprise me at all about anybody in leadership today, however they present themselves or say and do. I trust none of them!
The evil maniacs don’t even realise they are just useful idiots for that loser, the enemy of God!( who is not in my view even worth naming)

Jenny Smith
Jenny Smith
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

I agree with you, and I am on the same page with you as well. But I do not agree that every Tomas or Dick can short circuit out immigration rules. However, every Muhammad (a Muslim) or Ali (a Muslim) can. I am from Eastern Europe, and I have an EU passport and I still not go anywhere outside the EU. I have been desperately looking for a job anywhere in the west, but it is impossible to find anything. As to the EU, I do not have the required qualifications (a degree in the humanities- no one needs that), and as to other places and continents, I do not have a work permit. I eat only once a day, and I have not eaten meat for years. And I am not picky about jobs. So, unfortunately, it is Muslims who can go everywhere, not just anybody. There is an agenda here, which is supported also by the holy Pope who supports the Muslim immigration.

MrLogical
MrLogical
6 years ago
Reply to  Jenny Smith

The Pope?

The Catholic Church was penetrated by the Communists shortly after the close of WWII, and in that 50-odd years, they have successfully achieved control of all the power levers of the Church, now including their very own Pope, who was marinated in the socialist stew of Liberation Theology that swept through Latin America during that same period.

The Pope is a mere puppet.

Have no doubt.
.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  MrLogical

For documentation on the Communist infiltration and take over the Catholic Church since the 1920s see the book: “School of darkness” https://lccn.loc.gov/54010204

The Jesuits are the worst of the worst in their dedication to Communism within the Catholic Church.

Robert Kimbel
Robert Kimbel
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Not to mention that they are a fraternity of pedophiles.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Jenny Smith

The Pope is a heretic and a full-out atheistic Communist.

Your English is so good that you should try teaching English in your country or any country you can get to. Teaching English on-line, is that an option? Check out: http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/

If you look White, you should try to go to any country, legally or illegally, that you can get to.

To teach English in the Oil Kingdoms of the Middle East for the best pay, you have to have a UK or former UK-colony (USA, Canda, Australia, Ireland etc.) passport. I am currently in the Middle East and most of the English teachers are Pakistanis and Somalis with UK (fake?) passports.

k.b . mcdan
k.b . mcdan
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

She would be insane to go to any country in the oil rich middle east.

k.b . mcdan
k.b . mcdan
6 years ago
Reply to  Jenny Smith

You got that right. The pope is a huge problem in all of this. He sticks his nose in every countries business, Why?

MrLogical
MrLogical
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

The difference?

The UN and globalist elites are promoting and fomenting this cultural invasion & unrest as a cathartic step in their quest for creating a NWO government.

And they’re doing this in collaboration with the Comintern and the Muslims pursuing the Hijra.

It’s a convenient symbiosis for them.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  MrLogical

I thought the first objective of the Moslem takeover of Europe was the complete destruction of Christianity, i.e. eliminate the Catholic Church?

The Moslems have already partly succeeded in that effort: Pope Francis is not Catholic and hates the Catholic Church and wants it eliminated from Europe and replaced with Islam.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Then surely his election was a deliberate move by R.C.C.hierarchy , all professed Catholics ? Benedict ‘s “resignation ” was rather too fortuitous. Some within the Vatican find it rather suspicious. They are obviously not party to the Big Plan. Islam wants the R.C.C. (first ) neutralized because its numbers and structure–central power in the Vatican —represent rival power they cannot allow to exist. No coincidence Christians were on the Nazi list for solution after their success with the Jews.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

The fact that Francis said that he hates Europe being referred to as a Christian continent indicates that he has no Christian faith at all but is a simple Communist – Socialist – Cultural Marxist operative.

Francis has not and will not lift a finger to save Christianity from elimination by the Invading Islamic Army.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

There are so many of these liberal apologist idiots.Our own King -in-waiting, wants to be known as ” defender of all the faiths ” rather than fid. def. of the Church of England. as his forebears have been since Henry VIII. Now I don’t care if he wants to call himself defender of the diddymen, but can you see Muslims and Catholics accepting such vaulting ambition without riots ? We know he is not ambitious, simply simplistic and nice, but the result will be the same. Trouble with melting pots , is some substances always rise to the top, while others sink without trace.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

Because now the Hard Left Jews via Soros and the Rothschilds have figured out a way to kill off Christianity by flooding Europe with Moslems under the false flag of humanitarianism and refugee status. The Europeans are too stupid to realize they are facing a military invasion. Even a complete moron can tell that the Moslem Invasion Army are irregular troops out of uniform.

The whole Moslem Armada and Invasion Army is being funded by the Hard Left Jews Soros and Rothschilds.

Tatiana Covington
Tatiana Covington
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

Recall recently how there were tens of thousands of younger people riding north on trains from places like Guatemala? I don’t hear anything about that anymore. Wonder why?

normie
normie
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

they don’t have the right but our political people gave them the OK along with all the do gooders

k.b . mcdan
k.b . mcdan
6 years ago
Reply to  alfred5

Well, this was orchestrated by Obama, Soros and the wonder woman Hillary. They have cause all of this. Both need to be tried for it!

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago

May end up with another religious war, like the 30 Years War.

zf
zf
6 years ago

Apples and oranges. We must try to avoid the leftist brain-dead rationales.

30 year war was – Infighting. Christians fighting among themselves.

This right now is – Islam VS everyone non-islamic

Entirely different case.

sf
sf
6 years ago

The conflict in the perception of islam, arises from the perception of the norm. It is true that most individuals would assume that the majority decides what is the norm. Therefore, when they see the majority of muslims – Not terrorizing, then they automatically assume that – Not terrorizing must be the norm of islam. And therefore, those muslims who do terrorize, are considered going beyond the norm, hence – Extremists.

This understanding fails to account for the fact that terrorism is not child’s play. It requires an extreme level of dedication and will, and an unimaginable level of fanaticism, which is not exactly feasible for must individuals out there. Consequently, even when it is the norm in islam to terrorize, most muslims are unable to terrorize, and as a result, give the erroneous impression that – not terrorizing is the norm in islam. In addition, a significant proportion of muslims themselves are unaware about the true nature of islam.

What must be understood here is that our primary concern is not the followers, but their doctrine. Even if a few of the followers of a said doctrine engage in destruction, it makes it incumbent upon others to go after the doctrine. There is no need to go after muslims as a whole, when we can simply go after their doctrine, and verify that this – Not terrorizing—-is not the norm—in islamic doctrine, and terrorizing is indeed the norm in islamic doctrine. With consequently, renders islam indictable. In addition, terrorism or no terrorism, the values of islam itself are antithetical to the modern, secular system that we have in the civilized world.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  sf

All terrorist were brought up in “normative” Islam and then decided to take their religion “seriously” using a direct and fundamentalist interpretation, i.e. the Wahhabi / Saudi Arabian School of Sunni Islam.

The terrorist are formed and supported by normative Islam, i.e. parents, family, friends, mosque. Terrorists are just normal / average Moslems who have taken normal / average Islam from theory and the textbook into practice and application.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Bwarrrkkk buck buck, cluck, the chickens of socialism have come home to roost.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

If they are serious about it , they should stop bringing in these jihadis and deport the ones , especially those indulging in criminal acts.

Next the Left/liberal Pro-islam Loons will want infidel women/Girls to be assaulted, molested, gang raped , murdered http://bit.ly/2tTQW4b

..and its “poor” muslim religious practice and Halal (approved) by allah as per koran !

TDD
TD
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Al Jazeera has reporters that praise terrorist attacks.
But liberals still want to believe their is nothing structurally wrong in many eastern communities and countries. (just look at the TV they watch, and the books they read. they all foster hate of the west and judeophobia).

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  TD

The liberals who ignore the obvious are like victims of battered wives sydrome ” they only hit me because they love me.It’s the only way they know how to show it…all they need is lurve.” or Stockholm syndrome. Or abuse, where the victim stays close to the abuser because they know he / she has the power and is easily roused to violence. The more jihad attacks we get, the more appeasing we become, the more excuses made. Rather like battering a steak to break down the muscle and tenderize it–successful terrorism.

k.b . mcdan
k.b . mcdan
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Liberals are a danger to the free world.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago

Just one observation I disagree with him on : Europe is not ‘ crashing by itself’ it is crashing because most of it’s leaders, and world-elites WANT it to crash.!
And considering destruction has always been easier than repair, hardly difficult when allowed to go on unbridled, and especially when citizens have been stuoid enough to allow thrmselves to be brainwashed. What can possibly go wrong then for the destroyers?!

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

The Moslem invasion of Europe is being funded by the Jews Soros and Rothschilds to destroy Christianity.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

What is it like being a useful idiot and puppet for the Jew-hating Muslims who jihadded for centuries taking over Zoroastrarian Persia, Christian Egypt, Syria, Byzantines, much of AsiaandAfrica and even Spain??

Muslims have been infiltrating particularly through the MB ( Muslim brotherhood in case you don’t understand) since 1928.
Mosques have been built by Saudi Arabia in the West for longer than forty years.

The fact unbelieving leftist Jews ( as Jews are the only people around who are a religion and ethnicity) support the muslim agenda is their problem as it is for ALL leftists of whatever ethnicity. No excuse they didn’t know as the German public clamed after WW2 or that they were ‘ influenced’ and ‘ brainwashed? WELL DON’T BE ??? Because nor everyone was/ is…so possible??

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

It is a simple and indisputable fact that the Jews Soros and the Rothschilds are funding the Moslem Invasion boats from Libya to Italy for the explicit purpose of destroying Christianity as reprisal for what happened to the Jews in World War II. The fact that the Jews in Europe today will be exterminated by the Moslem Invasion Army does not seem to bother Soros or the Rothschilds as long as the main objective, Christianity, primarily the Catholic Church, is destroyed.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

That is not the point is it? Are you so sure of your case and obsessed you did not even fully read my comment?
Jihad for centuries you just ignored ! So muslims do what Jews tell them? Why? Are they not at war with Israel?
Soros and the R family are evil maniacs agreed, but nothing to do with religion.
Satan wants Christians AND Jews ( Yahweh worshippers) destroyed as Hitler his puppet did. Bonhoeffer the German pastor discovered that the Christans would be dealt with after the Jews and this was confirmed in stasi archives found after the fall of the Berlin war.FACT.
We were given the info. In black and white!

WE WE destroy Christianity AND GOD KNOWS IT. HE has left us ( I and others have been given prophecies which all confirm biblical prophecies) as HE is a gentleman and will allow The ‘ alien’ to take us over..however.
Our Nations left the faith without a knife at our throats !
He is in control though, and blaming anyone will not help I am afraid as it never did and never will, simply because the ‘falling away ‘was prophecied.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

I guess what I am saying is that the Sanhedrin needs to excommunicate Soros and the Rothschilds so there is no question in anyones mind that the Jewish people do not support the actions of Soros and the Rothschilds in destroying Europe.

The actions of Soros and the Rothschilds are placing all Jews in disrepute. To paraphrase an Oriental proverb: “Son, do not shame the family.”

Wikipedia / Sanhedrin:

The Sanhedrin (Hebrew: סַנְהֶדְרִין‎ sanhedrîn, Greek: Συνέδριον,[1] synedrion, “sitting together,” hence “assembly” or “council”) was an assembly of twenty-three to seventy-one men appointed in every city in the Land of Israel. In the Hebrew Bible,[2] Moses and the Israelites were commanded by God to establish courts of judges who were given full authority over the people of Israel, who were commanded by God to obey every word the judges instructed and every law they established. Judges in ancient Israel were the religious leaders and Teachers of the nation of Israel.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Bear with me please : Judges have passed, as the people demanded a King.
The Pharisees and scribes in NT were the enemy of Jesus Christ. (Many were, not all fake Jews??) The ‘ Lion of Judah’ called their father the devil and ‘ broods of vipers’ For a reason. They put Him to death, not the majority of Jews. (Jews were the first CHRISTIAN Evangelists.!) The Pharisees and saducees eventually decided to leave them alone as ‘ the cult’ would die out as all did unless it WAS true.
They and the Jews did nothing to Christians, the Romans did. Cruelly and for centuries!
Then came the judgement of Rome. No Jew involved. Although they had been under the yoke of Rome who killed many.
Rome was destroyed by letting in as we do, the ‘ barbarians’. They became the slaves and totally taken over. As we will be.

There were 12 Hebrew tribes, all sons blessed by Jacob .Jesus said He came for the lost sheep of Israel?
Everyone interprets that differently. I do this way.
Abraham and Jacob were promised by GOD that they would father many Kings and Nations. This cannot be Judah alone? They were blessed but also spiritually as through Judah line ( David) the Messiah came, as prophecied.
The other ten tribes ‘ Israel’ were divorced by God. Judah thinks they cant come back as they did after 70 years in Babylon, (or there would not be a country Israel.)
The sheep all over OT are Israel and Judah, no gentiles, and the ‘ bridegroom’ returns for His bride?
God dying, rising again so divorce law broken and He can re-marry His bride. Long story. All clear in the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation.
The Hebrew tribes moved many believe to certain European Nations ( Kings and Nations ?) nd lost their identity eventually, where they became Christans as many gentiles they assimilated with them have done, all part of the olive branch.
So, Many Westerners are descendants of the ten lost tribes the brothers of Judah
And became Christians. All worship Yahweh in Jesus Christ, the Son, and all will one day worship the Hebrew Messiah from line of David.
There are ‘Fake Jews ‘ because Jesus told us there are. See above, But we need to be careful in discernment. Obviously such as soros are! Who cares what he does, or Rothchilds? God is mightier. And He will judge….

Whatever any sanhedrin does or any illuminati does or does not do, is irrelevant (illuminati want their anti-Christ in Jerusalem…the ultimate insult to Yahweh ? But He mocks them, and will return and vanquish His enemies and the AC.
All that matters is that Jesus Christ will one day sit in His seat in Jerusalem ruling every tribe and Nation.
Much of Judah will come into the fold recognising ‘ the one they have pierced’ and be fervent Christians at some point. It is starting now in Israel.

Blessings and prayers…

obbop
obbop
6 years ago

Islam is far more than a religion. It is also a way of life, a set of customs and if not constrained by outside forces an economic AND governmental system. Islam is not compatible with the Western way of life. It is our right and DUTY to preserve our Western way of life.

bikerken
bikerken
6 years ago
Reply to  obbop

I would disagree on one point. I don’t believe islam is a religion in any sense of the word. It is mainly a system of government that is at it’s very root as fascist as it can be. It controls every single aspect of your life and enforces it with it’s own system of law, sharia. It definitely qualifies as a cult. But the entire ruse of the association with some sort of supreme being is for islam a cover so they can hide under the cloak of religion. I don’t believe that they ever considered or proclaimed themselves to be just a religion centuries ago. They have always been an aggressive nation looking to expand and take territory anywhere anyway possible. What islam has learned well over the last few centuries is that sometimes it’s easier to take over a country by simply walking in and out populating the host nation.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  bikerken

Infiltration ! Maybe the Soviets took a leaf out of the Muslims book as they had also decided infiltration was the best method after they couldn’t encourage the workers in the West to ignite a Soviet-style revolution/civil war.
And few if any , dare take on the West militarily…..
However, it has never been easier for Islam as the muslim take-over of the West has met with the least resistance they ever encountered historically.
Former Soviet infiltrators have stated how perturbed they were with a Western assignment, but needlessly they discovered, as “it was easy” Not much of a challenge though for a hardened KGB infiltrator ?
Muslims don’t look for a challenge as long as they win, however, using whatever means. So: easy for them too?
Shameful.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

USA First Amendment Freedom of Religion protections should not apply to Islam because it is primarily a military and political system of conquest and not a religion.

Without the West’s misapplication of separation of “Church and State” and “Freedom of Religion” laws, Islam would be considered a foreign military power not allowed to operate in the West such as the Nazi or Communist parties.

KitteeK
KitteeK
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Except communist parties were allowed in Europe, especially the Netherlands ( where thr majority are commies anyway they just pretend they aren’t!)

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  KitteeK

In the USA, any political party that advocates the violent overthrow of the US government is outlawed by 18 U.S. Code § 2385.

The Alien Registration Act of 1940 (Smith Act), 76th United States Congress, 3d session, ch. 439, 54 Stat. 670, 18 U.S.C. § 2385 is a United States federal statute enacted June 29, 1940, that set criminal penalties for advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government and required all non-citizen adult residents to register with the government.

Provisions

Title I. Subversive activities. The Smith Act set federal criminal penalties that included fines or imprisonment for as long as twenty years and denied all employment by the federal government for five years following a conviction for anyone who:

…with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or…organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof.

The Smith Act’s prohibition of proselytizing on behalf of revolution (like the political organization called Islam) repeated language found in previous statutes. It went beyond earlier legislation in outlawing action to “organize any society, group, or assembly” that works toward that end and then extended that prohibition to “membership” or “affiliation”—a term it did not define—with such a group.

Title II. Deportation. Because the Supreme Court in Kessler v. Strecker (1939) held that the Immigration Act of 1918 allowed the deportation of an alien only if his membership in a group advocating the violent overthrown of the government had not ceased,[13] the Smith Act allowed for the deportation of any alien who “at the time of entering the United States, or … at any time thereafter” was a member of or affiliated with such an organization.[14]

The Smith Act expanded the grounds for deporting aliens to include weapons violations and abetting illegal immigration. It added heroin to the category of drug violations.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  bikerken

Islam is a military and political totalitarian system masquerading as a religion to disguise its motivates from those it wishes to conquer.

Islam has more in common with Naziism and Communism (a complete political and governmental system, i.e. the caliphate) than with Christianity, Hinduism, Buddism etc.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  bikerken

My take on it is that islam is a lifestyle instead of anything else like religion or ideology.

obbop
obbop
6 years ago

Mohamed’s hordes will have no mercy as Islam is advance by the sword. Or gun. Or bomb. Or explosive birth rate. Or rape. Or maiming. And on and on and on. The barbarians are not “at the gate.” The barbarians are inside and allowed in by traitors to Western civilization.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  obbop

Name the traitors: The Jews Soros and Rothschilds who are funding the Islamic Army Invasion.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Please prove the Rothschilds have anything to do w/the mass muslum migration to Eurapia.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

The Rothschilds banking cartel is the power behind the throne in all world and especially European machinations. The Rothschilds are the “Shadow World Governemnt” because they have all the money to lend and manipulate all the puppet states of Europe and the World.

Rothschilds Control Islamic Army Invasion of Europe, see: Google “rothschilds european immigration”

Wikipedia:
The Rothschild family is a wealthy family descending from Mayer Amschel Rothschild, a court Jew to the German Landgraves of Hesse-Kassel in the Free City of Frankfurt, who established his banking business in the 1760s.[2] Unlike most previous court Jews, Rothschild managed to bequeath his wealth and established an international banking family through his five sons,[3] who established themselves in London, Paris, Frankfurt, Vienna, and Naples.

During the 19th century, the Rothschild family possessed the largest private fortune in the world, as well as the largest private fortune in modern world history.[4][5][6] The family’s wealth was divided among various descendants[7] and today their interests cover a diverse range of fields, including financial services, real estate, mining, energy, mixed farming, winemaking and nonprofits.[8][9]

The Rothschild Group

Since 2003, a group of Rothschild banks have been controlled by Rothschild Continuation Holdings, a Swiss-registered holding company (under the chairmanship of Baron David René de Rothschild). Rothschild Continuation Holdings is in turn controlled by Concordia BV, a Dutch-registered master holding company. Concordia BV is managed by Paris Orléans S.A., a French-registered holding company.[52] Paris Orléans S.A. is ultimately controlled by Rothschild Concordia SAS, a Rothschild’s family holding company.[53] Rothschild & Cie Banque controls Rothschild banking businesses in France and continental Europe, while Rothschilds Continuation Holdings AG controls a number of Rothschild banks elsewhere, including N M Rothschild & Sons in London.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

So money talks. What’s new ? Isn’t Arab / Muslim money buying the Christian world’s complicity in the destruction of 2000 years of Christian civilization ? Our children are being brainwashed in their state schools and universities, by Arab bought teachers. Our future leaders. You would be better employed worrying about that, than ancient superstitious twaddle. All that Jew conspiracy rubbish has been around since the intelligence of Jews first became evident, despite their slaughter by envious, thicker fellow man. Never was a saying truer “You can’t keep a good man down.” than of the Jewish race. And it’s definitely been tried ! THAT is why they are so envied and envy breeds hatred. The Muslim invasion benefits the globalists, liberals. socialists in the short term. Yes, there are so called Jews among those. But if you can explain how facilitating the conquest of the world by a ravenous horde with primitive beliefs, who hate everyone, will benefit a highly evolved group like (most ) Jews and the world of finance , you will deserve a Nobel. Your Jewish conspiracy diatribe did not.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

We are supposed to write comments that have something to do with the article under discussions. In this case that would be “Italian MP Demands Referendum to Leave EU Over Migrants: “Europe is Crashing!’”

My thesis is that the “pull factor” is the European open boarders and the money provided by Soros and the Rothschilds to have NGO boats transit the Islamic Invasion Army out of Libya to Italy. Soros and the Rothschilds have also paid off the media (private, for-profit companies who would murder their mother for 5 cents) to report the story as “humanitarian refugees” rather than a “military conquest operation” by the Islamic Invasion Army to keep the Europeans asleep while their homeland is overrun with Islamic Army Soldiers in civilian uniforms.

Yes, the Middle East Oil Kingdoms are providing money for the “push factor” to move the African Moslems out of Africa.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

And my reply is that you have not proved Rothschild responsibility for this Muslim invasion. Your answer is based only on Jewish conspiracy hyperbole. The UN and the EU cooked up this Doomsday scenario of under population. If anyone is to blame , blame them. Blame the globalists who want to eradicate nationalities and our civilisations. Blame the liberals who want some saccharine vision of the lion lying down with the lamb—involving Muslims !!! While people like you pursue yetis, the reality is unfolding all around us. Wake up.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Why don’t you try googling: “Soros and Rothschilds” and you will find that they are linked:

“George Soros Funded by the House of Rothschild – The New American”

“George Soros and The Rothschilds – YouTube”

“George Soros And Rothschild: Like CANCER In Your Wallet – YouTube”

The obvious financial aspect of their (Soros and Rothschilds) Moslem invasion of Europe is that it results in the devaluation of everything so they (Soros and Rothschilds) can buy things up on pennies on the dollar.

The secondary benefit of the Soros and Rothschilds crash of Europe is that they get to destroy the archenemy of the Jews: Christianity.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

John D. I have read all that, probably before you did. One glorious feature of the internet is any loon can put up a video or write a blog, quote some other dubious conspiracy nut, and hundreds will take them for the 10 Commandments. How do you think these bizarre anti-Semitic theories like children for matzos, harvesting organs while pretending to offer aid in disasters, poisoned Gazan wells, when the Gazans defecate in their water sources, etc. etc.etc. acquire ” validity “? Christianity is in decline, why even the numpty Muslims bother with it, let alone financiers or Jews, I certainly don’t know. If they want to be avante, they should pay attention to the Pagans and polytheists, who are on the increase. BUT while you obsess over rich Jews and others over atheists, Islam WILL walk in and take control over the West. Concentrate on the real problems, stop being distracted by inconsequence.You play into their hands.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Ma’am:

Are you of the opinion that Jews can do no wrong and are above criticism? Judaism is a political-religious system like Islam so just because in the USA people have been brainwashed into thinking you can not criticise a religion (especially Judaism and Islam), religions certainly can be criticised when they impact on the general public or they venture into politics.

Let us take the case of the Jews in Lakewood, New Jersey. Here you have several dozen orthodox Jews who are millionaire jewlers being indicted by state and federal prosecutors on welfare fraud in the tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars range. Are you saying that because they are Jews they are not subject to the criminal laws of the state of New Jersey and the United States?

Even the radio commentator Michael Savage, who is a Jew, says that he can not stand people wearing the “Holy Robes” (holy robers?) who are pious by day and criminals by night. Savage also finds fault with Jews who are “Holocaust propagandist” and believe that Jews are above criticism and untouchable because of the events of World War II. Savage notes that 60 million Christians in Russia were executed under the Communists but you do not see all the Christians in the world proclaiming their superiority and inviolability based on an event that was ten times worse than the 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis during World War II. So the question is asked why the Jews worldwide proclaim their univeral victimhood status, and thus their superiority and immunity from criticism, based on something that happended to Jews at a particular place and time in which all Jews clearly did not participate?

I think it is clearly possible that the Jews of today resent that the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 A.D. and the Jews of today, nurse their endless gripes and complaints against their treatment by the rest of humanity by commemorating this event with the annual mourning of the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple with the Jewish fast Tisha B’Av. I think it is not beyond the pale to think that the Jews of today would want revenge against Rome, the Italian State and all of Europe for what they suffered in 70 A.D. The Jewish instrument of this revenge will be the Moslem invasion and destruction of Europe and Christianity organized and paid for by the Jews Soros and Rothschilds.

I think the policy in the comments section is not to disparge other peoples ideas but to put forth your better idea for all to see and then people can make up their own minds.

I notice that you have not articulated another idea (i.e. if not Soros and the Rothschilds, then who?) other than to tell me that the Jews are above criticism.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Never have I stated that Jews are beyond criticism. Orthodox Judaism joins all fundamental religions in being anathema to me.I support the State of Israel’s right to exist as any legal state ‘s, but some of their decisions and historical actions are deserving of fair criticism. Some Israelis and Jews are just as fallible and culpable as any other group and should bear responsibility for criminal activity exactly as all other groups . (except Muslims apparently) .In fact, why does their religion have any bearing on their crimes, except for certain, predisposed individuals ? What I abhor and challenge at every opportunity is the unjustified obsessive harassment of Jews and Israel, because they are Jews and Israel is the only Jewish state. Antisemitism is one of our most successful growth industries, churning out books, articles, films, students, politicians, determining local and foreign policies, UN decisions. It is used as a cynical form of currying favour, appeasing an ascendant Islam, backed by Arab money. Your above post clearly demonstrates that point. By blaming Rothschild / financiers, you take the onus for the “crash of Europe” off the real culprits. You make VICTIMS of the real perpetrators. To send the hounds –the masses–off after another prey, is a favourite ploy used by liberals, our novo fascists. It was definitely one of Hitler’s favourite ruses. It worked..

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

This is why men do not like to correspond with irrational women:

Pleeeeeeeeease, who are the reeeeeeeeeal “culprits” you refuse to name????????

If not Soros and the Rothschilds, then who??????

The NGO invasion boats are funded by Soros who is just a surrogate for the Rothschilds. This is just a simple statement of fact. Are you disputing this?

“why does their religion have any bearing on their crimes”: Because Judaism, Islam and any other totalitarian system (Naziism, Communism, Socialism etc.) is something the adherent has to engage in 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. In Europe there was this event called the “Enlightenement” beginning in the 17th Century which was the culmination of the European Wars of Religion between Catholics and Protestants 1524 to 1648. This resulted in the political and governance separation of Church and state which has not occurred in Judaism or Islam. In the Western world, if you go to church on Sunday, you re-enter the secular and civil arena of life after the church service has ended for the sake of keeping the peace between the religions. In other words, you do not carry on with your religion in public to such an extent that you would give offense to other citizens as in forcing your religion on them.

Are you saying that Jews do not resent Christian Europe for being the successor empire to the Roman Empire and it being responsible for the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple in 70 A.D.?

If you think the “real” perpetrators are the people in the boats which I have termed the Islamic Invasion Army of Europe, I have stated clearly that under the Geneva Convention of the Law of War, INVASION = an act of war. Under the Geneva Convention troops out of uniform are treated as spies, saboteur and infiltrators and are subject to summary execution. All Islamic Army Invasion boats should be torpedoed and those who make it to land should be subjected to summary execution. Problem solved in three days.

Europe has lost its will to live and is allowing itself both literally and figuratively to be repeatedly raped when it has the lawful power to summarily execute the invaders via machine guns or any other means available.

Only a weak and disgusting people like the Europeans take food out of the mouths of their own children and give it voluntarily to an invading Army. Once the Moslems take over and exterminate all the Europeans, the USA and Russia will be dropping neutron bombs all over Europe to get rid of who ever is left gnawing on the dead carass of Europe.

If you can not name anyone who is responsible for the European Invasion, then please be quiet and stop interrupting the discussion with sensible adults.

vercingetorix
vercingetorix
6 years ago

Why do they not send them back to Africa? It could be so damn easy…….

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  vercingetorix

The Jews Soros and Rothschilds want to destroy Christianity by brining in the Moslems.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

Ah ! So the VOLAGS –the Lutheran Social Services , the Catholic Charities and the World Relief, Minnesota, among others were just fronts, when they imported 84,000 Somalis ( proven the most difficult to integrate ) into the States–33,000 to Minnesota alone ? Gotcha. Oh them omnipotent Jews !

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

They wouldn’t have been able to import any of them — if it weren’t for the corrupt atheist scum in the US government.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Pretty Polly, pieces of eight. You should get some help for your atheophobia, Izzy. John D. was blaming the Jews ( although he can have Soros–a real Jew, huh ?? ) Besides who was POTUS in 1993 ? Bush or Clinton, both good or public Christians, weren’t they ? And if the Christian VOLAGS had cared a cent for you the people, they could have refused, could they not ? Rather like the lie the Vichy government tried–they were FORCED to hand over their Jews for slaughter. Man up.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

George Carlin, defeatist atheist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2aHwvRSAzY

The only people who have stood up to the f’ing muslums who run Dearbornistan, Michigan and were incarcerated, threatened, attacked while doing so? Christians. All the atheist scum in the enemedia did was satirize them.

Both your governments in Eurapia are run by atheists.

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

OK you want to continue down this road. I’ll bet your “atheist scum ” were all dedicated Democrats. It is all about their politics and ideology (agenda )Do you seriously think even the self styled Christian countries, like the US , UK stop to consider Judeo Christian values when weighing up trade vs. human rights ? We axxxlick Saudi Arabia for goodness sake ! We will find a resource or reason to play besties with North Korea, do you think our leaders will fall on their knees and ask God’s guidance ? We’ll be in there faster than a pig to trough. Just as Christian countries like France, Germany were cosying up to Iran before JCPOA was dry. Our newbie Archbishop of Canterbury ( leader of the C of E )confesses he sometimes does not believe in God’s existence, Does that make him “atheist scum ?” A wood consists of individual trees. Anyway, take your Ovaltine, get lots of sleep because a new demon is fast overtaking atheism. Apparently idiots, sorry, free thinking folk are abandoning the ordered structure of Christianity, not for individual thought–atheism–but for polytheism. One mumbo jumbo for another ! Never mind original sin. Humankind is mad. Have fun.

vercingetorix
vercingetorix
6 years ago
Reply to  Erica Ling

Blaming jewish people for the catastrophic decisions of christian and atheist governements concerning the refugee-crisis is disgusting and utterly absurd!

Erica Ling
Erica Ling
6 years ago
Reply to  vercingetorix

Thank you. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Some folk are anti-Semitic, some atheophobic. Whilst not comparable to the persecution of the Jews, the vilifying and killing of atheists for our non-beliefs is an undisputed historical and extant fact.

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
6 years ago

“Operation Triton, an Italian-controlled security operation conducted by the EU agency FRONTEX.”

“Security”? That rings hollow. This is Assisted People Trafficking, a ferry service in breach of international maritime law.
Conducted by the EU? The EU should be doing its best to undermine the homogeneity of nation states, according to Peter Sutherland, lately UN representative for “Migration and Development”.
That is what is happening.
See “Peter Sutherland, Paid Migration Promoter” at Liberty GB.
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/peter-sutherland-paid-migration-promoter

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

Torpedo the Islamic Army Invasion boats in the water.

SFTOBEY
SFTOBEY
6 years ago

Yes. The so-called “refugee” invasion and the continued toleration of the INVASION of aliens (legal and illegal) – particularly from Third World countries – constitute the “shock troops” of the globalist, oligarch “New World Ordure” cabal. The plan: destroy whatever hegemony the nations of the West still retain. Destroy their sovereignty. Cause as much strife, economic hardship, crime, mayhem and murder as possible.

When the situation gets bad enough the sheeple of the once-free nations of the West will beg their so-called “leaders” to “do something”. Then the NWO cabal will come out with their “solution”: WORLD GOVERNMENT. (Translated: enslavement of all who are not part of their cabal or the government drones that do their dirty work.)

“Refugee Crisis: Using Chaos to build Power”
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22793-refugee-crisis-using-chaos-to-build-power

“UN-‘Together’: Propaganda Bid Seeks to Flood West With Migrants”
https://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=25414:un-together-propaganda-bid-seeks-to-flood-west-with-migrants

“New UN Chief to Europe: Ignore Voters. Open the Borders”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/24744-new-un-chief-to-europe-ignore-voters-open-the-borders

“EU Insider: US Must Take More Refugees – Get Rid of Sovereignty”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/item/21730-insider-eu-u-s-must-take-more-refugees-get-rid-of-sovereignty

“Soros and CFR Exploit Refugee Crisis for New World Order”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22447-soros-and-cfr-exploit-refugee-crisis-for-new-world-order

“Hungarian PM: Mass Migration A Plot To Destroy Christian West”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/22853-hungarian-pm-mass-migration-a-plot-to-destroy-christian-west

“Soros Hack Reveals Plot Behind Europe’s Refugee Crisis, Media Funding and Manipulation”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-16/soros-hack-reveals-plot-behind-europes-refugee-crisis-media-funding-and-manipulation

“Viktor Orban: European Union Is Following ‘Soros Migrant Plans’”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/10/viktor-orban-claims-european-union-following-soros-migrant-plans/

Timothy Adams
Timothy Adams
6 years ago

Send foreigners back all of them problems cease

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Timothy Adams

Torpedo Islamic Army Invasion boats.

Teresa Scott Bolen
Teresa Scott Bolen
6 years ago

Too late. The ships have landed.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago

“I find it incomprehensible that Italy is expected to take in these ships on a daily basis containing hundreds or thousands of migrants and these ships can’t go to other European ports.”

Or send them back before they get even close to shore … Europe is doomed, save for the few countries which have not allowed the invasion force in.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

Or topedo the Invasion Army Troop Transport Ships in the Mediterranean. After the third Troop Transport Ship is sunk and all soldiers are drowned, maybe the Moslem African Army will figure out that there are no free rides to Europe.

This situation is not a civilian refugee crisis it is a military invasion by irregular Islamic Army troops out of uniform. Under the Geneva Convention, out of uniform troops are subject to summary execution.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

would be wonderful to see, since this is an invasion force. but the globalists who want these invaders there, won’t allow it, let alone direct it. yes, it would be nice to see several ships simply sunk. because it is, literally, ‘them’ or ‘us’ — ‘us’ at this time being Italy and all of Europe. If we don’t take them out, they will take us out … it’s a war, declared only by one side.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

I like how the enemedia describes Italy as “welcoming” the muslum vermin, because something tells me the people of Italy (the voting public, the people who don’t live in secured villas and fly private jets) aren’t.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Government’s need to start censoring the mass media especially television. In the USA, fake news can be censored by the Federal Communications Commission which grants licenses to private companies to air TV channels over the broadcast medium (airwaves, internet, cable, etc.). If a station puts out lies and deceptions that are detrimental to national security and public order (encouraging Africans and Antifa to engage in riots) the station can have its broadcast license revoked and the station will be put off the air.

MrLogical
MrLogical
6 years ago

I wonder what Vegas is giving as odds on an EU breakup within the next 2 years?

Something’s gotta give or civil war across the continent is inevitable.
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Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

Despite all the kibitzers from the outside, this is the reason the Brexit referendum was successful. The citizens of the UK wanted their immigration policies set in London as opposed to Brussels.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

It is too late for the UK unless they kick out all the welfare Pakistanis after stripping them of their UK citizenship.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  John D. Horton

I’ve got faith in them to do the right thing. After all, they resisted Hitler’s best efforts in the Battle of Britain in ’40.

John D. Horton
John D. Horton
6 years ago

Under the Geneva Conventions, invasion = an act of war. Italy has every right to torpedo the invasion boats, whether loaded with invaders or not, any where that the Italian Navy can find them.

Italy’s failure to torpedo the invasion boats is an act of complete stupity and laziness on the part of the Italian people. Next, the Italian people will bend their grandmothers over a chair and invite the Moslem invaders to rape the Italian grandmothers.

This is not a civil law immigration issue, it is a national defense and war issue.

edbo
edbo
6 years ago

SINK THE BOATS

James Stamulis
James Stamulis
6 years ago

You want to save your country then start sinking those refugee boats instead of accepting them!

Kenek
Kenek
6 years ago

too late morons, your moslem population is too big now. They will not allow you to reduce the number of migrants. Serves you right for allowing the enemy into your “progressive” country without objection. the camels nose is already in the tent.

Guy Matthew
Guy Matthew
6 years ago

better hurry before it’s too late… …it’s already too late for DOOMED Germany and France…comment image

Guy Matthew
Guy Matthew
6 years ago

better hurry before it’s too late… …it’s already too late for DOOMED Germany and France…comment image

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Guy Matthew

I thought the French nearly fought to the death at Dien Bien Phu?

Steven
Steven
6 years ago

The most disgusting thing I’ve seen in the last year was a film about an Italian hotel owner being forced by the Italian government to open his little hotel that he lovingly took care of for 40 years to a group of illiterate black Africans. It was a horror show that I will never forget.

Robert Kimbel
Robert Kimbel
6 years ago

It’s time to start blowing those ships out of the water. Once a few are sunk, the invasion will stop. These savages have no intention of assimilating. They are coming to rape and plunder, and eventually take over. The Italian culture deserves to be preserved. France can destroy itself if it wants, but Italians have a right to determine their own future. Macron is a traitor who married his mother. Thankfully, we have Trump, although they are trying every trick in the book to get rid of him.

NonIslmophobicAthiestPedoHater
NonIslmophobicAthiestPedoHater
6 years ago

Too Little Too Late.
EU – Canada-Usa any other country that has allowed Demoncrats and Libtards freedon to reign unchecked and brainwashed into embracing the idea of allowing themselves to be willingly invaded by Slimer Pedofiles is toast.unless sanity and common sense is allowed to be freely used for personal safety and betterment as it used to be.

Perhaps PC has ran it’s course?

garry pollackD
garry pollack
6 years ago

The italians shud be very carefull about leaving an alliance with Germany… Last time a previous chancellor Hltler sent in the Whermact!

Bruce Atchison
Bruce Atchison
6 years ago

Finally, a voice of common sense is heard by the world. Daniele Toninell has finally realized the insanity of letting so many invaders into his country. Let’s hope that other MPs take courage and voice the same objection to unfit and insane people flooding their lands. To hell with political correctness!

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