The Consequences of an Independent Kurdistan

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Part I here: An Independent Kurdistan?

Iraqi Kurdistan is closer to independence than ever before. Its next step is to hold, despite the opposition of Baghdad, a referendum on independence in the Kurdish areas. The Peshmerga are now battle-hardened and well-supplied with American weaponry. The American military has taken notice. When asked by a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee on May 23 about the Kurdish Regional Government’s (KRG) intention to move forward with a referendum on independence after ISIS falls in Iraq, Marine Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart, the chief of the Pentagon’s intelligence arm, responded: “Kurdish independence is on a trajectory where it is probably not if, but when.”

A Kurdish state in what is now northern Iraq will have tremendous consequences.

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First, it will increase the restiveness, the sense of new possibilities, among the Kurds in Syria, Iran, and Turkey, with some now agitating for incorporation of their lands into an enlarged Kurdish state. What seemed impossible just a few years ago will now be a reality. And if the Kurds in any of those three countries rise in rebellion, it will be hard to suppress them. An independent Kurdish state can offer both experienced soldiers, and American-supplied weaponry, that was not available to the Kurds before. For the Kurds it makes the most sense to begin their revolt in Syria, for six years of civil war have greatly weakened the Syrian military, while the Kurds in Rojava have been recognized by the American military as the most effective fighting force against the Islamic State in Syria.

Second, the example of a Kurdish state will not be lost on the Berbers who, like the Kurds, are spread over several countries and, like the Kurds, have suffered from Arab supremacism. Those Berbers who have increasingly been thinking of independence, in re-asserting their Amazighité  or Berberness, and previously assumed it could only be a pipe dream, now have the example of an independent Kurdistan to embolden them. That means they will no longer be satisfied with official recognition being given to their language. They want more: they want recognition and celebration of the Berber culture, not the disparagement  and begrudging recognition it has received from the Arabs. Many of the Berbers who now live in France — there are more Berbers than North African Arabs in France, and the Berbers are much more open to such groups of freethinkers as Riposte Laique (“The Laic Response”), which warns against the power and spread of Islam. Berbers are much more likely, both in France and in Algeria, to become apostates, or even to convert to Christianity.

The Berbers have sensed the connection between islamization and arabization, and in rejecting the latter, have started questioning the former. Should a Berber state be attempted, the Arabs will do what they can to suppress it. It won’t be easy for them. The Berbers are quite numerous; 45% of Moroccans speak Berber as their first language, and estimates of the total Berber population in Morocco, including those Berbers who speak Arabic, run as high as 70% of the total. In Algeria 25% of the population speaks Berber, but there are many Berbers who speak Arabic. The total Berber population is somewhere between 30% and 40% of the total. No one knows, for sure, and it is certainly not the kind of figure the Arab government, even if it collected such information, which is doubtful, would make public. It counts as Arabs all those who speak Arabic as their first language, even if by ethnicity, by culture, by sense of identity, they are Berber. The Berbers in North Africa will have the support of Berbers in France, for an independent Berber state. Some Berbers have discussed  a state where Western-style freedom of religion would be protected, including the right of apostasy by Muslims, both Berber and Arab.

The French government might recognize, if it has well-prepared leaders, that the Berbers, both in France and in North Africa, are less in thrall to Islam than the Arabs, and a religiously liberal Berber state could have a salutary effect on its Arab neighbors, as an example of real enlightenment and true Islamic moderation, much needed in the current climate.

The third consequence of an independent Kurdistan, after the example it will offer both other Kurds (to join that state) and Berbers (to emulate it), is the conceivable widening of the fissure between Arab and non-Arab Muslims all over the globe. 80% of the world’s Muslims are not Arabs. As they watch the Arab attempt to suppress the Kurds, and then to suppress the awakened Berbers, they will begin to see that there is merit in the claim, a claim that should be continually repeated by statesmen and scholars in the West, that “Islam is a vehicle for Arab supremacism.” It’s something that needs to be pointed out by us to them, that is to the very people who, as non-Arab Muslims,  have suffered the most from Arab supremacism, but once they have recognized the truth of the observation, it will be impossible for them to forget it. They know they are supposed to read, recite, and memorize the Qur’an in Arabic, face Mecca five times a day in Arabic-language prayer, copy the habits and ways  of seventh-century Arabs, that is of Muhammad and his Companions, if converts to adopt Arabic names, to make the hajj to Mecca, in Arabia, at least once in one’s life, and finally, they learn to treat their own lands’ pre-Islamic histories as things of little worth, from the time of ignorance, or Jahiliyya. Those are some of the ways that Islam reinforces the Arab sense of superiority.

The Kurdistan spectacle, of a non-Arab Muslim people throwing off the Arab yoke, with the Arabs trying to re-impose it, should help awaken other non-Arab Muslims as to how they have suffered from Arab Muslims (far more than they ever have from the hated Infidels) and is more likely to increase their resentment both of Arabs and of Islam itself as that “vehicle of Arab supremacism” — a phrase one should be prepared to use on every conceivable occasion, so that it enters into the collective consciousness of Muslims and Infidels alike. That’s what the Kurds can help bring about, by holding that referendum this September, and voting for independence, and at long last attaining, despite the Arabs’ best efforts to prevent it, that independent state that they were promised long ago. An unintended consequence, devoutly to be wished.

 

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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

iraq is a failed state, break it up and see what can be recovered from the pieces.

Dean
Dean
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Except the English plan was to combine warring factions to keep them busy fighting each other and we upset that plan by removing Saddam, and now they are aligning with Iran, who he fought eliminating millions of militants on both sides. Except for the Kurds, I prefer the English plan.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  Dean

You are absolutely right.

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  Dean

I doubt after WW1, the English had a plan to create warring factions. However, you can read and study the San Remo conference, and make decisions on the ratified policies. Not a good thing to jump straight to generic propaganda when discussing a complicated issue

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I agree completely. It would very interesting seeing the Kurds, elect representatives that believe in commerce, trade, business growth, etc, and avoid implementing Islamic political ideology

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

If they want their own country, they will have to pay for it. The palestinians are having trouble begging enough money to continue their war against Israel, there is no international disposable cash left, now that o’bimbo is gone.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

It would also be interesting to see a man fly on a winged donkey w/the head of woman from Soddy Barbaria to the Temple Mount, but not very likely.

deweyv
deweyv
6 years ago

The kurds havevsaved alot of people so what in the helis wrong with their own state

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  deweyv

Tell it to the 2.5 million Armenian and Assyrian Christians slaughtered/enslaved by Kurds in Armenia/Turkey.

Joy Daniels Brower
Joy Daniels Brower
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

OMG. I did NOT know that it was the forefathers of today’s Kurds that promulgated those atrocities a century ago!! I thought it was just the Turks who caused all that destruction and human misery.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

“So before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was
me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family
against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the
tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.”


Leon Uris,

The Haj

Belfast
Belfast
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Funny how the Kurds and Israelis are close buddies, and the Turks and Kurds are at each other’s throats.
The Kurds also have nearly all the Christains who fled Iraq and are doing fine.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Belfast

Oh really? I saw a PBS show that tried to present a Kurdish muslum as some sort of humanitarian who was saving Yezidi women from slavery. Problem was, he was making a profit of off “saving” Yezidi women. What do you call someone who profits from the buying and selling of human beings again?
Like I said go tell the families of the victims of the Armenian Genocide, or are some genocides more acceptable to you than others?

Goldbug
Goldbug
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

You saw it on PBS, so it has to be true. Right?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Goldbug

I can’t prove it was wrong and the likelihood of a f’ing muslum selling /buying slaves in the 21st century sounds to me like a good bet, considering the ONLY countries that feature legalized slavery are ALL f’ing muslum states.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

New possibilities for everyone except the kafir al najjis — for whom it’ll be a case of meet your new muslum boss, same as the old muslum boss.

old003
old003
6 years ago

As long as islam is in the equation freedom and personal liberty will not be.

Dean
Dean
6 years ago
Reply to  old003

Right, although the Iraqi Kurds love America, Islam is still incompatible and cannot replicate our uniqueness. And we need to remember that the Syrian Kurds, who we are helping against Assad are dedicated Marxists and rebelled against Assad for his moderate views and secular plans for social change.

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  Dean

Good point. It is true that communisim and Islamism have a lot in common, although Islam is based in a theocratic construct. The only thing that confuses me about sharia law is this: 1400 years, and they’re best ideas, are to push gay people off buildings, smash their brains on the sidewalk, then pass cake out to their children. I don’t see this as any application of a fair judicial proceeding. You? LOL

Poppey
Poppey
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

In both Syria and Iraq J Ian, the Baath Party ruled as a one party state, the Baath Party was allied with and based on the Soviet model of government. Secular dictatorship.
Assad, father and son as well as Saddam suppressed Islam and its theocracy for many years, that’s why the MB violated the truce with Assad’s father and attacked his convoy sparking the assault on Homs where they were wiped out by the Alawite Assad government forces.

The worst thing the west did was upset that balance, civil war and terrorism in both countries have been the bitter fruit since.

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  Poppey

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the British assisted several muslim countries to form a Parliamentary Monarchy, where Islam was the designated religion of the State, but western legal construct was implemented: Afghanistan would be an example: But, muslims continually revert back to full Political Islamic rule, and create civil war in the countries. Either way, at some point we do need to continue to try, and bring the muslim countries into some form of Parliamentary democracy, rather than a Monarcy / Dictatorship. It seems to me, that was the original goal.

J Ian
J Ian
6 years ago
Reply to  old003

Unfortunately, I agree. For a short time, these countries function well in a Parliamentary democracy. But? Eventually, the Islamists, start bombing, raping, and killing, which shuts down commerce. Then the economy collapses, and without non muslims to pay the poll tax, things get bad real quick. ex: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Iran, etc.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  J Ian

What’s an “islamist”? Is it like a nazist?

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

It’s BEST to have the middle east fight each other rather than US doing the fighting. I’m ALL for this.

Kalambong Kalambong
Kalambong Kalambong
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

The best scenario will be moslems can’t stop sending each others to HELL

Me Here
Me Here
6 years ago

The Kurds need to choose LIFE instead of islam or their new Nation will fail.

Alleged Comment
Alleged Comment
6 years ago

LET’S do it then! Uck ’em up. Probably what General Mattis might say.

Butseriously
Butseriously
6 years ago

Great to have two Non-Arab states in the region. But if a Caliphate and the genocide of Christian and Jews has to be negated, then its best to hold any festivites till we see a Coptic 2-State and Lebanon being free.

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago

The CIA should begin a psy-ops program to promote anti-Arab sentiment.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

Because we all know it’s only Arabpig muslums that are the problem.

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Because we all know the principle of divide and conquer.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

The vast majority of f’ing muslums are from Malaysia and Indonesia.
BTW, who’s dividing and conquering whom in the 21st century?

Ichabod Crain
Ichabod Crain
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

I don’t know about you, but I am encouraged to see Sunni fighting with Shia, and I’ll be even happier to see the Sunnis divided.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Ichabod Crain

It seems to me the only time Sunni kill Shi’a or vice-versa is when there aren’t any convenient kafir al najjis to kill — and there are less and less of those in any muslum state on practically a monthly basis.

DavidMacko
DavidMacko
6 years ago

Bring our troops home, end foreign aid and quit all other meddling. If the Kurds, Berbers or other oppressed groups, such as Christians, who were not mentioned in the article, want to be free, let them. Follow the advice of Washington, Jefferson and Adams, not the one-worlder Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Soroses who have created a living hell on earth and intent to complete their evil plans.

inthebellyofthebeast
inthebellyofthebeast
6 years ago
Reply to  DavidMacko

Right because that kept us safe before WWII.
Keep the Muslims fighting each other in their home countries. Better there than here.

Jim
Jim
6 years ago

I too would like to see the Kurds have their own independent state but I see a future much like the birth of the state of Israel. On the eve of Israeli statehood in 1948 they were invaded by every one of their Arab/muslim neighbors (and then some). I see this happening to the Kurds as well and whats infinitely worse they have been disarmed by the west’s (mostly the US) refusal to arm them with anything but small arms. This will end in a disasterous massacre unless the west helps and I can’t see that happening with the small numbers of US troops. Worse, can or will the US airforce/navy aircraft fight a NATO ally like Turkey??

inthebellyofthebeast
inthebellyofthebeast
6 years ago
Reply to  Jim

Iraqi troops are garbage without US air support and intel. Iran wouldn’t dare, and neither would Turkey. So Meh.
Kurds have a lot of captured material to draw from as well.
No. If such a scenario were to occur I think the same outcome as what happened with Israel is most likely. Shamed Iraqi, Turkish and Iranian troops limping home with their pride and their tails between their legs.

inthebellyofthebeast
inthebellyofthebeast
6 years ago

I am good with anything that keeps Muslims killing Muslims.
Is that wrong?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Anything that empowers muslums is wrong for the dying free world.
You don’t empower Italian fascists like Mussolini in hopes they’ll oppose Nazism, because they won’t.

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