Australia: “There has been too much promotion of so called moderate voices of Islam who usually turn out be apologists for terrorism”

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That is true not just in Australia, but all over the Western world. Kudos to Tanveer Ahmed for telling the truth that hardly anyone in the free world dares to tell. And there is more. He also says, again correctly, that Islamic terrorism is “grounded in scripture. People who commit terrorism, they are actually more devout than many other Muslims.”

That is what my colleagues and I have been saying for years, and have been excoriated and vilified for doing so.

“Australia needs to stop worrying about Islamophobia’: Muslim psychiatrist says ‘moderate’ activists downplaying Islam’s links to terrorism are fuelling extremism in teenagers”, by Stephen Johnson, Daily Mail, June 6, 2017:

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A Bangladeshi-born psychiatrist says the ABC plays a role in radicalising young Muslim teenagers by over emphasising how they are victims of discrimination.

Tanveer Ahmed, a cultural Muslim who moved to Australia when he was six, says the national broadcaster’s obsession with perceived Islamophobia was often counterproductive.

‘Often the voices they reach for reinforce that because their first instinct is to quell so-called Islamophobia,’ he told Daily Mail Australia on Monday.

‘It keeps feeding the message that none of it is their fault, that the West is in fact against them.

‘It’s inaccurate and doesn’t get to the source of the problem. It keeps feeding grievance, it keeps feeding this idea of Muslim grievance so in that respect it’s part of the problem.

‘Terrorism is, at its heart, a conflation of personal resentments with a political ideology of resentment which Islamism is.’

Dr Ahmed is a former SBS journalist who has also previously been a member of the federal government’s Australian Multicultural Council.

The 42-year-old psychiatrist, who has a practice in Sydney’s west and visits prisons, called on the ABC to be wary of airing so-called moderate Muslims who downplayed the link between Islam and terrorism.

‘There has been too much promotion of so called moderate voices of Islam who usually turn out be apologists for terrorism, desperate to dilute any link between terrorism and Islam and promoting a message of Muslim victimhood,’ he said.

‘They use voice after voice of from various religious Muslims, almost all of whom have identical views, that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism, Muslims are victims of racism and the real problem is racism and white nationalists.’

In the wake of the United Kingdom’s third terrorist attack in 10 weeks, Dr Ahmed said the mainstream media and politicians also needed to acknowledge terrorists were following the Koran.

‘It’s grounded in scripture. People who commit terrorism, they are actually more devout than many other Muslims. Their actions don’t come out of thin air, they’re following strict instructions,’ he said.

‘It’s important we don’t tarnish all Muslims but people are just so sick of the platitudes and calls for tolerance, for unity and that Muslims are victims when in fact there’s a great deal of sympathy in a significant proportion of the Muslim community for the justification of terrorism be it blaming Western colonialism, blaming racism, discrimination…..

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Bronish
Bronish
6 years ago

Dr.Ahmed….Amen! We need millions of voices to tell the truth about islam….the atrocities are simply committed by devout muslims following their evil book of instructions called the Qur’an, or Koran, or however its spelled.
As Geller says, it’s in the Quran.

M.D. Roud
M.D. Roud
6 years ago

The problem is that terrorism is at the core of Islam. I can’t remember who said “there is no Islam without Jihad” but it may as well have been Mohammad itself. He made it obligatory for muslims to wage war on unbelievers; “I have been commanded to fight until there is no religion but for Allah”
It is impossible to separate terror from Islam, so of course it’s adherents are apologists for terror. “I have been made victorious through terror!” Exclaimed the genocidal pedophile Mohammad, at learning of his slavish thugs having murdered the men of a city and captured their women and children for the purposes of rape. Shocking that his followers are not more well behaved

Michael Copeland
Michael Copeland
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

“The Koran directly commands us to commit terrorism….”
Ragab Hilal Hamida MP
in the Egyptian Parliament

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

The 6th pillar of Islam known to EVERY Muslim but strangely unknown by leftist apologists is to commit jihad to spread the Umma. I once admired Lawrence of Arabia until I read his book and then looked more carefully at his beliefs. he was the real first of many such Islamic brown tongues in the west.

notall
notall
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Long before Corbyn-Ladin there was Lawrence the closeted Oxford/Cambridge Islam-romantic accidently plonked into the real world. He was a little narrow shouldered man, not at all anything like the blue-eyed , blonde, Peter O’Toole god of the movie.

AlgorithmicAnalystD
AlgorithmicAnalyst
6 years ago

A lot of “muslims” from India have Hindu ancestry, as Hindus were forced to convert to islam or die during the 1000 years plus muslim genocide in India, the greatest genocide in history.

M.D. Roud
M.D. Roud
6 years ago

Yes! Tamerlane slaughtered a lot of Hindus. Those that were left converted to the religion of peace with heavy hearts. This is Islam. This is subjugation

M.D. Roud
M.D. Roud
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

I want to add that the religions of the world seem to have many differences, but with the occasional abberation they all seem to get along without without murdering one another with one notable exception

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

Islam!

TDD
TD
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

Even among leading Atheist scholars like Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and or even Bill Maher – – they identify R-Islam as perhaps the most dangerous.

(in liberal forums, I will usually cite liberal Atheists to make the point that the liberal community has failed when it comes to calling out the anti-semitism and racism, and radicalism that exists in the muslim community.).

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

When Tamerlane was told it was impossible to transport his legions of Hindu slaves across the Hindu Kush he stated something to the effect he couldn’t just let them go, because they were kafir. The rivers ran red w/blood and piles of heads accrued that were so tall a man and horseback couldn’t look over the top.

TDD
TD
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

“The rivers ran red w/blood and piles of heads accrued that were so tall a man and horseback couldn’t look over the top.”

The REAL “Trail of Tears”.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  TD

Hindu women committed suicide en mass to avoid becoming slaves to muslums.

TDD
TD
6 years ago
Reply to  M.D. Roud

” Tamerlane slaughtered a lot of Hindus.”
Liberal response: “But…. But.. I thought Muslims were not colonizers like the evil westerners?
Only white people kill anything “Indian” I was led to believe.”

Yeah, Muslims killed and conquered Indians too, except they were Brown skinned Indians in Asian.
No more white-washing Muslim history.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  TD

I would’ve considered traveling to Pakistain and Bangladesh (spit) when they were under British rule, but now, when they’re under muslum rule? Not on a bet.

Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago

Agree. Left/Liberal Pro-islam Politicians, media are either
ignorant or corrupt to support such a vile ,intolerant, dangerous Idealogy pretending to be religion.

They will sell the country’s security in pursuit of their self
interests. Like Dems on Payroll of Iranian Lobbyists sold out American interest on the Iran nuke deal !

Hard to Believe ? check http://tinyurl.com/mcake4d

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Like every criminal, muslims will take advantage of the weak who are too stupid to see what is going on, then sucker them in more as once the story gets started, it is unstoppable.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

“Tarnish all muslims”? It’s not my fault islum is a Jew hating, totalitarian, fascist, supremacist death cult Tanveer. It’s not my fault you choose to believe in it. And bigotry against f’ing muslums? It’s called commonsense by the kafir al najjis.

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

He does have a point: much as I would like to believe otherwise. many Muslims in the west are forced to adhere to Islam by fear for themselves and their families. It is the criminal element and the brainwashed teens & children who are the ones to actually do it. I know several Muslims who support and subsidize groups almost certainly jihadist ones but they are simply not brave enough to refuse. The ABC?? Leftard rubbish so nauseatingly sycophantic that even hard core Muslims see it as comedy.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Michelle

Whatever your reason/excuse for being a muslum collaborator it’s not good enough. Furthermore, how do you know which muslums are “forced to adhere to Islam”? Trust them at their word? You should realize your excuse for f’ing muslums was also used by Nawzis during WW2 — I was just following orders.

Trump Blue Me
Trump Blue Me
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

You hate Muslims, Muslims hate Jews. Why does that make you OK but they’re not OK. You are in fact the same!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Trump Blue Me

Dear allahtard, you might think most of the kafir al najjis are just too stupid to realize what you muslum vermin do to people who criticise your damned, dumb, Jew hating death cult once you have any sort of political power but you’re wrong.
So do you prefer male goats? Or female?

Trump Blue Me
Trump Blue Me
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

At least goats don’t have as much back hair as yours do!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Trump Blue Me

How would you know bacha bazi man?

Trump Blue Me
Trump Blue Me
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

You blue Bibi.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Trump Blue Me

Go rimjob your imam for allah.

Trump Blue Me
Trump Blue Me
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Bibi pegs you!

Trump Blue Me
Trump Blue Me
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Have you ever had Jew-Kabobs?

Michelle
Michelle
6 years ago

That will leave him wide open to violence and I wonder what our famous federal police/security services *chokes & blushes* are going to do about protecting him?

soundclick.com/Globalfirm
soundclick.com/Globalfirm
6 years ago

No one is exempt from the guilt of the fail to condemn unethical collective manifestations.
Muhammad’s cult entails many aspects of today’s collective guilt that must be condemned to be guilt-free: from Muhammad’s commands to terror of non-members of his cult, torture, burnings, crucifixions, genital mutilation, forced theism, rape, pederasty, to enslavement of Africans & many more. The manifestations of the Muhammad-cult since Muhammad, create a guiltiness.
So the problem with the Muhammad-cult are not just that commands to terrorism are part of the Muhammad-cult’s cult-rules but that the collective guilt we must face which occurs from the failing to condemn Muhammad & his cult are an too often ignored necessity for a guilt-free consciousness & thus mental-health.
Psychiatry, media, school, academia is the interface where the conscious-making of this guilt & of the necessity to overcome it through condemnation of Muhammad & the Muhammad-cult can happen.
#Ban Islam, save lives worldwide & free the African slaves from Saudi Arabia to Mauritania, the Biafra-leader, the Leavenworth 10, Israeli soldier Azaria, Salim Masih & so on.

Steve
Steve
6 years ago

In this country they have the chance but refuse to break the chains.

Alleged Comment
Alleged Comment
6 years ago

There is no “moderate” Moslem. You are being BAMBOOZLED with SCAM words.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
6 years ago

There are two kinds of muslim…terrorist muslim and ignorant muslims. The former are those who know islam and follow their quran to the letter. The latter have no clue about islam and have a idealized image of islam that has no bases in facts. “When I examine the quran, the hadiths and the islamic books under my microscope, I came to the absolute conviction that it is impossible for any human being to read the biography of muhammed and believe it and yet emerge a psychologically and mentally healthy person” Dr. Wafa Sultan Psychiatrist, author and Ex-muslim zombie.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  bannedquran20

I used to know someone who personally knew Wafa Sultan. He said ANY event she chooses to attend is carefully vetted before she accepts the invitation and she receives regular death threats from f’ing muslums right here in the USA. Because islum is a religion of peace…

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

islam is a cult of criminally insane mentally retarded psychopaths.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

I’ve only met one other person from S.E. Asia who seems to share your opinion. Surprisingly enough he was Korean Christian. I just about fell out of my chair when he knew what the f’ing muslums had done to Buddhists and ethnic Chinese in Indonesiastan.
The pastor of his church and his son disappeared in Turkey while preaching the gospel there. Before that they went to Iran to preach the gospel there. I admire their courage and conviction because I would much rather see both muslum states reduced to radioactive ash.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

You have condensed the situation and presented the best solution, radio active ash is all islamic countries will ever amount to.

Bullet Proof
Bullet Proof
6 years ago

Christianity (the seed of God-Son of God) vs Islam (the seed of Satan-Antichrist {Gen 3:15, 1 John 2:22}).
Only Islam specifically denies the Son of God.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

Why is this ongoing charade of utter stupidity pirating to islam wanting peace allowed to continue? muslims will not accept peace unless it involve the complete capitulation of all a nation and its citizens to islam, then, it has to be the right kind of islam” or it is apostasy, which involves murdering all apostates.
Quran

Quran (8:38-39) – “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven… And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran

Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” Suras 9 and 5 are the last major chapters that Muhammad narrated – hence abrogating what came before, including the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -“There is no compulsion in religion…”.

Quran (9:5) “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them…” This is one of the verses that abrogates 2:256, since prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat (see below). Some say that the textual context limits the application of this verse to non-Muslims in Arabia at the time of narration. While there is some merit to this, it does not change the fact that the Quran is sanctioning violence as a means of coercing religion.

Quran (9:11) – (Continued from above) “But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion”In conjunction with the preceding passage, this confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam. Quran (9:56-57) – “And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you). If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste.” This refers to people living with the Muslim tribe who may not be true believers, but must pretend to be in order to survive. They have no safe refuge to escape the Muslims. If Islam were a religion of peace, then why the fear?

Quran (2:193) – “And fight them until fitna is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.” The key phrase here is to fight until “religion be only for Allah.”

Qur’an (3:83) – “Are they seeking a religion other than Allah’s, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?” But didn’t the earlier verse (2:256) state that there is “no compulsion in religion”? This contradiction is resolved by abrogation – where the later verse supersedes the earlier one.

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