Tortured Muslim Child Marriage Victim Tied to Chair, Set on Fire, Dies

The Saudi men in pajamas probably went home and ‘entertained’ themselves.

Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219
The Reason Why Women Have to Wear the Hijab
Main Articles: Revelation of the Hijab and Qur’an, Hadith and Scholars:Hijab
If you ask a Muslim why Muslim females wears the Hijab (veil) the reason given is usually one of two (or a mixture of both):

They are showing obeying a command from Allah as given in the Quran; it is a matter of piety.
They are protecting their modesty by dressing this way instead of showing their body off for everyone to see.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The real reason that Muslim women wear the hijab today is not a spiritual one, nor a matter of piety. Covering the hair/face cannot be considered an act of modesty because Muslim men are not required to cover theirs. The sole reason they do it is because Umar bin Al-Khattab, a companion of Muhammad, wished that Muhammad would reveal verses from Allah requiring women to wear it. when Muhammad did not oblige, Umar did not bother praying to Allah for assistance. Umar knew he had to make it personal for Muhammad himself in order to bring the revelation down. He followed Muhammad’s wives out when they went to go to the toilet and made his presence known. When Muhammad heard of this, the revelation that Umar had so wanted was sent down from Allah. Umar knew where these revelations were really coming from, which is why he pestered Muhammad and bothered his wives instead of asking Allah.

Nonie Darwish and Wafa Sultan are no longer muslums.

No one deserved to be treated like trash except evil people–like the man who killed Ms. Genovese, and ISIS members.

Muslim women who are brainwashed and/or threatened into living under oppression don’t deserve to be treated badly. If anyone does, their abusers do.

The point of helping someone isn’t to be thanked, (though it is nice). And while there are some women who are extremist enough to believe oppression is okay, many aren’t okay with it.

Not all Muslim women are okay with oppression. That’s like saying all Christians are okay with following all the rules in Leviticus.

Have you ever read “Now They Call Me Infidel” by Nonie Darwish? She was born a Muslim, in Egypt, and witnessed a lot of the oppression women go through.

Now she lives in America, converted to Christianity, though she respects the good aspects of her birth country. She also is a major voice for women’s rights.

I strongly recommend her book, because not only is she a speaker against Sharia law, she also tells stories about some women who were not lucky enough to escape oppression like she did. She’s proof there are people who will speak against Sharia.

Yes, she is a target by jihadists. But she’d be the first to point out that women and girls in her country are worth saving.

Look….I agree that Islam needs serious reform, especially given the number of jihadists out there. I know how things are, how the world works. And I’m scared to death at the idea that jihadists could win. I’m afraid of terror attacks, too. Extremists scare the hell out of me.

Going back to one of your first comments, you said that Muslim women deserve to die for believing their religion……I know how frustrating things are now. But the only reason a lot of these women stay with this oppression i because they’re threatened, or they aren’t educated so they honestly don’t know a different way of life exists.

Saying they deserve to die–because they’re threatened, or uneducated–doesn’t make sense since people in general won’t always question what they don’t know.
If they deserve to die, then people who are kidnapped (threatened) and people who are uneducated about their rights (like women in the FLDS) deserve to die, too…..and that’s not true. None of them deserve it.

Your second sentence proves my point…..one reason they stay is because they’re threatened, or their kids are. Others aren’t educated enough to realize there’s a better way of life out there….many of these women are isolated in their homes. If they don’t ever get the chance to escape, it’s not their fault.
It’s not their fault, and they don’t deserve to die.

We haven’t tried to talk to these women. We haven’t debated with them, or told them about other ways of living, we haven’t asked what they really think when their husbands aren’t around. Until then…..how can we really, truly know none of them want to be saved from oppression?

You’re right that women who escape that life need to watch over their shoulders….sadly, a lot of extremist men out there can, and do, try to kill women who escape. But women have escaped. And for every woman who escapes, you can pretty much bet that there are many others who want to as well, even if they can’t say.

Again, I recommend that book by Nonie Darwish. Through reading her book, I saw examples of women who weren’t able to escape, but clearly were not happy with the oppression on their lives. I really think that book is something you should read…..Darwish is open, caring, yet determined to expose injustice in her homeland.
She knows her life is at risk, but she wrote the book to help raise awareness of jihad, Sharia law, and oppression in the west. I was amazed to read it, and I think you will be too.

You might be surprised…..this book did reach a lot of people, Americans and foreigners, Muslims and non-Muslims both. It wasn’t sappy or preachy in any way, it was…real. She was honest about what needed fixing in her culture, which was refreshing.

Nonie Darwish even started a website called “Arabs for Israel”, where Muslim, Jewish, any-other-religious group could talk about peace in Israel and the middle east. I read some comments from people on all sides….I was pleasantly surprised at the positive messages, from Muslims as well as Jews.

Again, I recommend this book. You would probably like it.

Actually, “Now They Call Me Infidel” is non-fiction. That’s one of the amazing parts about it, that it’s true. That there really is resistance to jihad among people who lived in it.

I have to get going now…..but I just wanted to say, I know we obviously disagree on quite a few points.

But for whatever it’s worth, I understand how scary things are right now. And since you’re Jewish, I imagine it’s even scarier when you hear extremists call for deaths of Jews. (I know I get scared when I hear for them calling for deaths of Americans, because I’m American.) Our fear is totally understandable.

I just hope we can empathize and work together with other people who have been targeted by extremists too…..including Muslim women who, in a different way, are also targets of jihad and Sharia.

Best wishes.

Why not, people have been choosing to trust in things that kill then since the beginning of time. Some people are fated to die at the hands of stupid religious people and they always have. I hope you don’t think you can take away all their muslim women–just because they might get beaten or killed or due to their willing acceptance of a life of virtual slavery and the possibility of additional wives thrust upon you, well maybe that makes the work easier….

I think it’s nice that you want to send in the cavalry, Arlene
Now try not to be too good, don’t want you dying too young

Go ahead, try to save them–You will fail and they will treat you like sh1t just for trying

They have a name for those helpful muslim women–
DEAD

Do you truly believe an 18 year old girl, a rape victim, a victim of forced marriage, deserved to die?

I don’t really think you do.

You’re worried about terrorism and Sharia law, just like I am. And that’s okay. We all have reason to be afraid.

But saying an 18 year old girl deserved to die? Or that we could have harvested her organs? That doesn’t help anyone. Not me, not you, not anyone who reads these comments.

You’re right that many women wouldn’t think they were being abused if we arrived magically to help…..the kind of help they need involves therapy, counseling….they would need to reexamine their beliefs from scratch. Sadly, that’s a long process.

But I think they can do it, if they were educated enough and able to debate freely. They’re not being given a chance to reexamine their beliefs, which is part of the problem.

No one’s asking us to travel to Sri Lanka and whisk these women away on a private jet. That wouldn’t work.

But what we can do is share these stories worldwide, try and get the word out to as many people as possible so more and more people will push for change.
We can push for tougher actions on jihadists and people who enact Sharia law—if the threat of harm is taken away, if jihadists can’t attack these women, they’ll feel safer to question things.
We can push for restrictions on jihadist and Sharia/law groups.
We can support the fight against ISIS, since such violent groups add to this fear and oppression.
We can tell Muslim women–even if they can’t reply–that they don’t need to live in oppression. We can show them, though kindness and education, that there’s another way to live.
All these things, even doing just one of them, might make all the difference.

They may believe what their faith says, but if given a chance, they’ll want questions answered. They’ll want a better life.

Yes, we definitely do need to help abused women in our country. We need to help abused women anywhere, in any way we can. We may not be able to do as much for women in Muslim countries as we can for women here, but they’re both worth it.

Whatever culture someone is from, if we help someone being abused, we’ve made the world better….even if it’s only a little better. (I know that sounds corny, but stopping abuse anywhere really does help break the cycle.)

Yes. They are worth it. Even if they don’t know it.
Just being a human being makes someone worth saving. (Well, unless it’s a bad guy like ISIS’s leader or something).

Thing is Arlene you don’t hafta believe in inertia to get splattered all over someone’s windshield like bugs do

This girl knew far more about her religious beliefs, at 18 than I hope I ever do. She could not save herself, and if anyone could see this coming, it should have been her

Not everyone can be helped and if you wanna help start here at home, help your neighbors, help some animals,
help some kids–you might find you are helping yourself