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Democrats legislators OPPOSE Minnesota bill against female genital mutilation

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This is evil. There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil.

Now, the author of the Senate version is voicing second thoughts about approving the legislation yet this session, though Senate GOP leadership have not committed to a course of action. “We all agree this practice is absolutely horrible, and something needs to be done,” said the author, Sen. Karin Housley. “How can we empower communities to address this practice from within rather than having Big Brother come down and say, ‘This is wrong?’ ”

Is this the new approach to law and order? Why have laws against murder or rape? Why not say, “How can we empower communities to address this practice from within rather than having Big Brother come down and say, ‘This is wrong?’”

Local politicians caving to pressure from Muslim migrants concerning the most brutal, misogynistic mutilation imaginable.  There is nothing ambiguous about clitordectomies where the “procedure” removes the clitoris damning these girls to lives without sexual pleasure and chronic, painful, ongoing health problems.

The bill won support from all but four of the 128 House members who voted, including Rep. Ilhan Omar, the country’s first Somali-Muslim legislator.

FGM fact sheet:

 The number of women and girls at risk for female genital mutilation (FGM) in the United States has more than doubled in the past 10 years. More than half a million women and girls in the U.S. are at risk of undergoing FGM in the U.S. or abroad, or have already undergone the procedure, including 166,173 under the age of 18, according to the Population Reference Bureau (PRB).

Dissemblers and deceivers claim that FGM is cultural phenomenon, not religious. FGM is an Islamic cultural phenomenon. FGM is found only within and adjacent to Muslim communities. (source: Gerry Mackie, “Ending Footbinding and Infibulation: A Convention Account,” American Sociological Review).

Unlike male circumcision, female genital mutilation has no health benefits for girls and women.

Female genital mutilation (FGM) involves partial or total removal of the clitoris, causing injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons.

Femal genital mutilation procedure has no health benefits for girls and women. It removes all possibility of sexual pleasure. It is the worst kind of misogyny.

Procedures can cause severe bleeding and problems urinating, and later cysts, infections, as well as complications in childbirth and increased risk of newborn deaths.

 More than 200 million girls and women alive today have been cut in 30 countries in Africa, the Middle East and Asia, where FGM is concentrated

FGM is mostly carried out on young girls between infancy and age 15.

FGM is a violation of the human rights of girls and women.

Photo above: Renee Jones Schneider, Star TribuneRep. Mary Franson spoke Thursday in Minneapolis during a community education awareness meeting about female genital mutilation. To her right are FGM survivors Fadumo Abdinur and Farhio Khalif.

Minnesota bill against female mutilation raises opposition

By Mila Koumpilova and Faiza Mahamud Star Tribune, Star Tribune, May 18, 2017:

After bill’s near-unanimous passage in House, longtime critics of practice have raised about the measure, leading to some second thoughts.

Opposition from some members of Minnesota’s immigrant and refugee communities is slowing the momentum of a bill that would impose stiff penalties for parents involved in cases of female genital mutilation.

Since the bill’s near-unanimous passage in the Minnesota House this week, some longtime critics of the ritual have met with senators, lobbied the governor’s office and handed out fliers — all to raise alarm about the legislation.

The Council for Minnesotans of African Heritage, a nonprofit called Isuroon and other groups argue that the legislation carries overly harsh punishment and unintended consequences, including the possibility that newcomers from countries where genital cutting is widespread would not seek medical care and other services for their children. They call for a less punitive approach focused on educating parents.

Now, the author of the Senate version is voicing second thoughts about approving the legislation yet this session, though Senate GOP leadership have not committed to a course of action. “We all agree this practice is absolutely horrible, and something needs to be done,” said the author, Sen. Karin Housley. “How can we empower communities to address this practice from within rather than having Big Brother come down and say, ‘This is wrong?’ ”

Rep. Mary Franson, who introduced the House bill, said the Senate is bowing to pressure from groups “more concerned with perception than doing the right thing and protecting girls.”

“Watering down the bill really does a disservice to the little girls who are in danger,” she said.
Deqa Hussein took pictures as Rep. Mary Franson spoke during Thursday’s meeting. Hussein also spoke out at the event encouraging women to be proactive in protecting children.

Deqa Hussein took pictures as Rep. Mary Franson spoke during a community FGM (female genital mutilation) eduction awareness meeting in Minneapolis, Minn., on Thursday, May 18, 2017. Hussein also spoke out at the event encouraging women to be proactive in protecting children. ] RENEE JONES SCHNEIDER ¥ renee.jones@startribune.com

Renee Jones Schneider, Star Tribune
Deqa Hussein took pictures as Rep. Mary Franson spoke during Thursday’s meeting. Hussein also spoke out at the event encouraging women to be proactive in protecting children.

Concerns about the bill
Franson’s bill makes it a felony for parents to subject their daughters to the procedure and calls for loss of custody and prison terms from five to 20 years, depending on the extent of the injuries. It also increases penalties for those who perform the procedure, which has been illegal since pioneering Minnesota legislation in the 1990s.

The bill won support from all but four of the 128 House members who voted, including Rep. Ilhan Omar, the country’s first Somali-American legislator.

Fadumo Abdinur, one of several Somali-American women who testified in favor of the bill, said stiff penalties are needed to root out a practice that leaves girls and women with long-term health problems. Abdinur, who experienced genital cutting, did not get her period until she was 20, and only after a Texas physician partly reversed her procedure. She also suffered painful periods and intercourse.

“I don’t want any girl to go through this,” she said. “I will talk against it for the rest of my life.”

Lul Hersi, a St. Cloud mother of four and a supporter of the bill, says the United States should warn refugee parents against rushing to have their daughters cut before traveling to the United States — and disqualify them from resettlement if they do: “The parents know the risks they’re putting their kids in.”
Fartun Weli of Isuroon, which won a $180,000 federal grant this winter to educate health care providers about the procedure, stresses that she does not condone the practice.

But she and other critics balk at separating girls from their families, which they argue victimizes them a second time. They say they worry about families arriving from places where the practice is deeply rooted. An amendment to Franson’s bill states the penalties apply only if the ritual is practiced in the United States. But Haji Yusuf, a Somali community leader in St. Cloud, questions whether authorities can always readily determine that.

For parents who came to the United States with girls who’d already undergone the procedure, the bill, which mandates reporting to authorities by health care providers and others, could discourage doctor visits.

The bill requires Minnesota’s health commissioner to provide outreach and education about the dangers of female genital mutilation (FGM) in immigrant communities — and to seek private funds to do that. The lack of designated funding for education, including for law enforcement and mandated reporters, is an issue for Ann Hill in the state’s Office of the Ombudsperson for Families, which has also raised concerns about the bill.

Brikti Hiwet, an Ethiopian-American elder and reproductive health lecturer at the University of Minnesota and St. Catherine University who attended Monday’s hearing, said she felt lawmakers had a “knee-jerk reaction” to the issue. She says existing state and federal laws prohibiting the practice are effective.

“How can you protect children when you take them away from their families and put them in foster care?” she said.

Hodan Hassan, a mental health clinician, also argues for a less punitive approach.

“When I read the bill, my heart sank,” Hassan said. “It criminalizes parents who don’t understand the legality of their actions and don’t have the ability to advocate for themselves.”

Hassan says lawmakers should not scrap the bill but should revisit and revise it.

Weli says she worries the House discussion framed the issue as a Somali community problem when almost a dozen immigrant communities in Minnesota hail from countries that practice genital cutting. At least one of the Minnesota girls whose parents took them to a Michigan doctor now charged with performing the procedure — the case that inspired the House bill — was not Somali, according to child protection documents.

“All our mothers went through this. Some of our sisters who grew up in Africa went through this. Our daughters won’t go through this because so much has changed,” said Abdullah Kiatamba, a West African community leader.

Aim is to protect girls

Franson says the bill’s intent is clear: protecting girls. So is the language in the bill that limits penalties to those who live in the United States when the practice takes place. She says loss of custody must be a consequence of a procedure that causes girls lifelong harm.

“America is the land of the brave and the home of the free,” she said. “Little girls who moved here from other countries have the right to be free from the oppression of female genital mutilation.”

She pointed to an event the nonprofit Voice of East African Women planned to hold Thursday evening as evidence that immigrant supporters of the bill have already taken on the task of educating communities about it.

But Housley, who met with Weli and Kaade Wallace of the Council for Minnesotans of African Heritage, said she wants to ensure senators get broad input and consider unintended consequences before they act — and time is running out this session.

“When laws get made this quickly, that’s when mistakes get made,” she said.

Kiatamba says the bill’s passage seems to have sparked an open conversation on a rarely discussed issue.

“Something dramatic needs to happen and bring this issue out of the shadows,” he said.

  • Joe Blow

    What pos’s really

  • Liatris Spicata

    “When I read the bill, my heart sank,” Hassan said. “It criminalizes parents who don’t understand the legality of their actions

    Say, Mr Hassan, do you suppose they have the capacity to learn?

    • As if the imams couldn’t get to work informing people. They are suppose to be there on Fridays.

      • Pray Hard

        What are imams going to inform people of?

    • Anjie Dodge Wittu

      And again if the can’t or won’t follow our laws I don’t think they should be here.

      • markinator

        Christian groups are constantly waging court cases to be exempted from our laws that we’re expected to follow. How is that different?

  • Poppey

    The practice of letting in Somalis to advanced western countries as “enriching refugees” has been a complete folly now for years, if these backward useless people cling to the practices of a failed non state and stone age system of “morality” they should be removed to where they feel more comfortable – Somalia. Taxpayers in Minnesota would benefit.

    If these offensive positions about refusing to conform to our decent standards continue, you’ll be faced with demands to allow stoning for adulterers. If you want the problem the UK has with FGM, surrender to them.

    Import and sleep with monkeys and you can’t help catching their flees. Is Somalia the “Switzerland” of east Africa?

    • markinator

      Hey, let’s impose biblical penalties for certain crimes, or what you call “sins”! If we begin to stone adulterers, Trump gets the rocks first for his violations of the sanctity of marriage. Then Newt Gingrich, and all the rest.

      I think it’s just special how you demand that their “offensive positions about refusing to conform to OUR DECENT STANDARDS continues….” will result in imposition of biblical and sharia law. Those are not decent standards at all, especially by fine christians who love their neighbors like themselves, right?

  • AlgorithmicAnalyst

    Dhimmi Dummies :)

  • Ron Cole

    First the lefties advocates baby murder, then they sell the parts, now they seek to mutilate babies.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/176f19c9acb48230e8d317d2dba09098a210c6fa3213faf3d95b9cdfe56e118d.jpg

    Why the next thing ya` know they will advocate legalizing toy boys, girlies, and its.

    • markinator

      No, the “lefties” do not advocate baby murder, nor do we sell any human body parts. We do not seek to mutilate babies, and your generalizations are quite ridiculous. The real sexual deviants seem to be republican senators and congressmen.

  • Nefarious420

    So much for draining the swamp and declaring groups like CAIR a terrorist group, instead they get to work on legislation like this, Thank you Mr. Trump for keeping your word on being tough on Islam and kicking the terrorists out of our political system /sarcasm

    • rh2

      Trump has been harassed from Day One of his Presidency not only by Leftie Trash, as expected, but also by subversives on his staff working for the “Deep State”. He didn’t know whose advice to trust on anything, and that’s why many of his campaign promises haven’t been implemented yet.
      Now that he has hard rock advisor Mike Cernovich back at his side, we will see Trump making some positive personnel changes, and dumping those considered of dubious loyalty not only to him, but to the US itself. He can then concentrate on Draining the Swamp, and also, among other things, declare CAIR the country’s mortal enemy. . ..

      • AlgorithmicAnalyst

        That seems to be the main thing, getting rid of the traitors. Everything he says is liable to get leaked.

      • markinator

        Oh, cry me a river of bloody tears. We watched your ilk denigrate Barack Obama for 8 years, and the republicans all took an oath to spite him at all costs, even if it harmed our nation. Their concerted anti-Hillary efforts were no secret, and disgusted everyone, except you. And that is quite telling about you, isn’t it? Your list of rationalizations for Trump’s ineptitude is pathetic, frankly. He has engaged in Obstruction of Justice, and will be out of office by August, and Pence will be ousted along with him due to his lying about Flynn’s lying. Drain the swamp? har har The swamp things are all cabinet appointees. And there are only two types of Trump voters — the first are male, white, racist, christian multimillionaires. The second type are totally gullible morons who got duped quite easily by a narcissistic con man. Check your bank balance to see what type you are.

  • Mike Harris

    https://i.imgbox.com/RYB3v6eS.jpg

    As long as boys are mutilated, I don’t care.

    • Kook of the East

      Not the same.
      Dhimwhit.

    • KitteeK

      Cutting a piece of foreskin is not castration, so not the same as cutting out a sexual organ.
      Do you really not understand the difference?

    • Rocinante44

      jesus was “mutilated” like this. mary was not mutilated like muslims do.

      • Jhon Murdock

        Jesus never gave consent to his genital mutilation and never circumcised anyone in his entire life.

        • markinator

          Since there’s an absence of what Jesus did for period of 30 years, you can’t say that he never circumcised anyone in his life. Most of his life has no account at all. For all we know, jesus could have been collecting foreskins and clitorises that whole time. The 3 major religions all share the same god, and pray to him to be mean to the other ones.

          • Jhon Murdock

            Check my edit, Mark.

    • Pray Hard

      What’s your point, Mike? Is this a leftist attempt at equivocation?

  • Dennis

    To me this is all about conduct that simply violates “Mother Nature.” I will avoid any references to the procedure as being a cultural or religiously directed concept. It is simply a Very High Violation of the female gender and anyway that it can be stopped is the right way. Again, this has nothing to do with culture or religion; it is a major violation of Evolution, whether one believes in that or not. I have heard some people compare the FGM procedure to male circumcision, which I understand is the male passage of right into Judaism, but the differences between these procedures are monumental, and the effect of FGM is devastating, while circumcision has been established to have some medical benefits, and FGM does not. The culture that accepts this vile procedure must change is conduct, especially since it often involves innocent young girls, unable to fend for themselves, and if legislation is required to do so, so be it.

    • Pray Hard

      It has everything to do with Islam, well, over 90% anyway. Package it any way you like for your own mind, but ignoring Islam is simply incorrect. And, you seem to desire to be an intellectual type.

      • Dennis

        Sure I understand that this procedure is religious based, but I approach the issue from the perspective of whether one can ever reasonably conclude that this cutting has any reasonable basis in fact. There is none to justify it, especially when girls as infants are subject to it. They cannot protect themselves, and therefor will not receive what we know to be due process or equal treatment under our law. No religious belief should prevail over those rights. Therefor, I avoided the fact that Islam supports such tragic and devastating conduct. Hope I have answered your reply to your satisfaction.

        • ladywarrior

          Instead of all of us posting these thoughts on this site why don’t we put them in a formal letter to Attorney General Sessions and carbon copy President Trump? I think I will do that this coming week. Please join me.

        • markinator

          Dennis wrote: ” No religious belief should prevail over those rights.” I’ll take it to the next logical step — no religious belief should prevail over any rights of citizens. When christians claim that they’re persecuted, it’s their twisted response to being ruled against by the SCOTUS for things like wanting to legally discriminate against homosexuals and their friends. When we’re told that Person A had their religious beliefs violated, how am I supposed to determine if those beliefs are even proper? Also, as an atheist who prefers secularism, I can have a set of beliefs as strong as the next christian does, yet they’re only validated if a big walleye is preparing to be harvested.

  • Mike Wolff

    If it was Jews, Mormons, Amish or any white group practising FGM, the clamour to prosecute would be deafening. But for the politically correct, the fantasists of multiculturalism and “diversity”, Somalis are the dream ticket: low IQ, backward black Africans AND extreme Muslims. They are above criticism, even for such a vile custom.

    Shamefully, the US is only now bringing its first prosecution for FGM. Worse still, in PC/multikulti/diversity-obsessed Britain, despite FGM being illegal for more than 30 years, there have been NO prosecutions. Neighbouring France has brought more than 100 successful high profile prosecutions. It would seem that in Britain the fear of offending the two “communities” responsible – Muslim and black African – overrides any concern for the health and safety of young girls.

    • Chris HaworthVrecko

      Jews never practiced FGM. Get your facto straight.

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        • Susan

          You can only be a muslim to lie this much. This is a site for serious issues not the selling of scams. Get lost.

      • Evil Otto

        Try reading more than the first four words.

      • ladywarrior

        He isn’t saying Jews practiced FMG……..he’s saying “if “any other “religious” group did that they would be prosecuted.

      • Chrissy Anne

        Read the post properly before you post an answer.

  • Midnattsol

    “How can we empower communities to address this practice from
    within rather than having Big Brother come down and say, ‘This is
    wrong?’ ”

    You cannot. Islam is a tyranny of the majority. Even this law cannot be enforced unless doctors actively check to see if the girls were cut and report it.

    • you mean amputated.

      • Cai

        At last, someone using the right descriptive terminology.

    • ladywarrior

      Since these children are rarely – if ever – taken to doctors that will be a drop in the bucket.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    In islam, muslim parents are allowed to murder their children as well, does this mean that after mutilating the girls, they can also kill them as it is part of their culture?

    Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son. [Note: This parable along with verse 58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).]

    The first text comes from the Sharia manual Umdat al-Salik (Sunni). Section o1.2 lists many cases of murder for which the murderer is granted immunity.

    “o1.2 The following are not subject to retaliation:

    A child or insane person, under any circumstances … ;

    A Muslim for killing a non-Muslim ;

    A Jewish or Christian subject of the Islamic state for killing an apostate from Islam … ;

    A father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring ;

    • Pray Hard

      Moslems are brimming with shame to begin with. It’s their entire “culture”. They don’t know honor from sh*t. No one “brings shame” to any family. Their actions simply reveal the mountains of it that already exist … just sayin’.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        muslims have no honour they are dregs for humanities gutter, they make a lot of noise about honour to cover the fact that they are as honourable as feces.

        • ladywarrior

          I believe something went horribly wrong with their DNA centuries ago……as their centuries of blood lust has never abated…..there will be no peace on earth until this strain of sub-humans are gone.

          • JacksonPearson

            The Qur’an is the problem. There will never be peace as long as this evil book is allowed.

          • Irwin Stolzenberg Dds

            They are tribal and marrying of cousins is promoted therefore causing abnormal gene pool. One of many explanations.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Well said.

    • Janet

      Well said as always Mahou! It blows my mind how Muslims justify such heinous acts. To kill or hurt your own child is beyond comprehension. They don’t love their children the way a parent should. They are more like property to them the way their wives are. How can any mother let this happen. it has to be out of fear for her own life. But I also know that many of them are obsessed with family honor just like the men.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        muslims are incapable of genuine emotion or affection, everything islam is defied in how it benefits islam. The incidental benefits to the individual are payment for submission.

      • Jack

        Janet, with all due respect, the muslims must not bear the whole burden for the proliferation of islam in civilized society.
        As Americans, Germans, French, Swedes, and others, we must shoulder the majority of responsibility for allowing our societies to be infected by this cancerous slime. We here in the U.S. have even provided a “trojan horse” in the form of freedom of religion.
        Just because the followers of the bastard born muhammed are religious in their devotion to the deviancy, as instructed by this piece of swine feces, it does not make islam a religion.
        I pray it is not too late to correct this misconception.

      • Philosophy

        Islam kill all natural emotion–love for children—only submission to Allah. Even animals enjoy freedom to love their infants, but not followers of Islam.

    • ladywarrior

      Always point on and well informed, Mahou.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Thank you.

    • JacksonPearson

      That’ll be the next evil bill, after this evil bill is approved. Incremental Mahou, incremental.

  • God, I hate having these people in our country – or what was once our country.

    • Rocinante44

      who brought them all here? your friends, the democrats

      • wilypagan

        Plus RINOs like Bush, McCain, Rubio, and other neocons.

        • ladywarrior

          Don’t get me started on those sub-human scum…..and make that the Bush and Clinton Cartels and their minions……

      • spfg
      • ladywarrior

        And their Muslim/Marxist President…..Barrack Hussein Obama. I wonder if his little girls have been “fixed” according to Islam?

        • markinator

          Barack Obama is no longer our president. Your poster boy Trump just awarded Saudi Arabia the biggest weapons deal in our history, and he bowed before their king, and felt the glowing orb. He glossed over their abysmal human rights record, and treated them like royalty. But go ahead and continue to dredge up one-syllable sound bytes that caused you to vote for Trump. It shows how pathetic you are.

          • ladywarrior

            The first Hallmark of a Soros/Obama/Killary troll is they start insulting people……thank you for outing yourself as a troll….hope you choke on the money these American enemies pay you…..BLOCKED.

      • markinator

        The refugees are here due to the US bombing their home nations. That warmongering in the US is owned fully by the republican war machine. But maybe you’re really a bold bigot, who will turn away a boat full of women and kids because you’re such a fine christian, right?

    • Karl

      As long as they are here, use this opportunity to expose them. Speaking out against them in their home country will get you the death sentence. Accusing them directly will get you no where. Educate your friends, neighbors, church groups – basically people you feel comfortable talking to about Islam. If you are good at writing, get a letter published in your local news paper.

      • markinator

        Yeah, spread the hate around, because only good christians are allowed to hate muslims. “Church groups”??? What sort of church group holds discussions on their mutual hatred of muslims? Most of the christian ones likely do.

        • Karl

          Aren’t you being a little opinionated there? An alcoholic’s best friend is someone that tells them what they are doing is wrong. Markinator you are playing the role of an enabler. You are a Muslim person’s worst enemy.

    • markinator

      Your hate is duly noted. “These people” are human beings, and you’re just a bigot.

  • Rocinante44

    i continue to shout, where are the feminazis? those mean ugly babes will not touch the muslim abuse and humiliation of women, while continuing to conjur up some continuing ongoing war against against women by white christian american men.

    • Anjie Dodge Wittu

      Amen… I have written to many womans groups about woman coming here not being able to drive, need permission to leave the house, FMG, etc. They never respond. It doesn’t belong here our society may need work but we do not need to go back several decades.

    • ladywarrior

      The “feminazis” were never about elevating females…..it was more about bringing men down……not women up…..
      ….so far it’s worked because reports are out that millennial women are forgoing marriage because the men are too much like their “girlfriends”.

      And another report says they are going for men as old as their Dads even if it means they have to give up having children and are willing to to push the old guy around in wheelchairs in the future……..that is really messed up.

      Not to mention what it will do to the population numbers…..then once again we’ll be hearing that foreign workers have to be brought in because the population growth is low……which is exactly Merkel’s excuse for bringing in immigrants to Germany.

      This is how you take down nations, folks…..whoosify the men and make the women more aggressive than men….

  • Diana Prince

    The FBI is prosecuting its first case of FGM against a Michigan doctor that mutilated 6-8 yr old girls. It’s against the law. Period. No foreign or religious law usurps the U.S.

    If government thinks they’re going to get away with allowing this, they’ll have another Tea Party on their hands.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    democrats are so stupid they will cut off their clitoris to spite their race.

    • Cai

      Love your twist on the old ‘noses and faces’ theme.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Thank you.

    • markinator

      So that must mean that you’re a veritable genius. Obviously you’re quite intelligent. I bet you’re in Mensa.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        No, I am a member of “densa”.

  • Poo-Poo

    Why isn’t the demorat party condemned for such sexist discrimination ?
    Why isn’t the demorat party destroyed ?
    Half the cirizenry of the USA are women.
    How come the women’s groups aren’t even criticizing the demorat party ?
    Where is the media on this question ?

    • Anjie Dodge Wittu

      I am conservative and have sent messages to Women’s rights groups they never respond..

    • markinator

      Because this is the republicans demanding yet another unnecessary law to quell your unfounded fears of people who look and act differently than you do. The republicans are engaged in all-out war against Planned Parenthood, and they offer services to the women you just accused Dems of ignoring. You must have Poo Poo for brains.

  • jon

    “How can you protect children when you take them away from their families and put them in foster care?” she said.> The responsibility is on immigrants and refugees to obey the laws of their new nations. This practice is illegal here. If community leaders are worried that new arrivals won’t understand the legality of their actions, they are welcome to organize programs to teach them the new rules.

    • Anjie Dodge Wittu

      Exactly if they can’t follow the law then they do not need to be here. If they want to continue those rituals then they need to go to a Country that will allow it. Saying they didn’t know any better is like Hillary not being charged for sharing classified emails because they couldn’t prove intent to harm. What a bunch of crap

      • markinator

        Wow. This was supposed be about FGM, yet you still cling to the campaign-style rhetoric of anti-Hillary one-syllable GOP sound bytes. It’s a bunch of crap, no doubt. It’s your coping mechanism that allows you to justify being gullible enough to vote republican and rationalize that Trump’s intelligence faux paus has now been upgraded to Obstruction of Justice. And Hillary did not even share any classified emails. She was exonerated and found to be innocent of these fabricated crimes. Did you torture animals as a child?

  • Speak the Truth

    Hassan: “…….It criminalizes parents who don’t understand the legality of their actions.”

    Really? If the parents think it’s legal, why is this procedure performed in secrecy, with the victims ordered to not tell anyone, not talk about what was done to them, etc. Also, the doctors who perform this procedure knowingly commit a felony, and these docs have ample opportunity to inform parents, if said parents really didn’t know that the procedure is illegal.

  • Robinske2

    Pretty soon Democrats will be wondering how the Islamic community can be empowered to no behead infidels.

    • markinator

      And republicans won’t be wondering about it because they lack the philosophical skills to even debate it properly. Do you think that Democrats are infidels? Be careful about your answer, and consider it before you make yourself look more stupid, if that’s even possible.

      • Robinske2

        Only a glittering gem of colossal ignorance as yourself could possibly be defending FGM.

        As a democrat- you’re a bit late to the debate- didn’t your mommy wake you up on time or are you negotiating a better pay rate?

  • Pray Hard

    We shouldn’t even have to discuss this verminous, savage, superstitious behavior in a civilized nation. The f*cking Somalis and other greasy moslems can like it or GTFO. We don’t need or want them either.
    Come and get me!

    • ladywarrior

      That’s the bottom line. Period.

    • markinator

      After being so damn mean toward people seeking our help, you should know that you don’t get to tell muslim citizens to GTFO. And when you say, “Come and get me!”, you look like a coward.l “….other greasy moslems can like it or GTFO”. Don’t be surprised when they see your bad examples and come to get you.

  • Michael

    Dems have made it quite clear that the feelings of Muslims matter more than the freedoms and lives of ANYONE else. This bill is yet another perfect example of it. And if you recall back to the Orlando massacre of the gay Pulse nightclub, Dems were dumbfounded because they didn’t want to demonize Muslims so they blamed the gun instead and made more calls for gun control. Dems would rather sacrifice themselves at the altar of political correctness than criticize ANYTHING about Islam, it is sad and scary at the same time.

    • markinator

      Well, Michael, allow me to educate you or at least try. The Pulse nightclub shooting was found to have at least three conceal & carry citizens there. All three said they didn’t dare draw because they feared the authorities would mistake them for the perpetrator. Dems want sensible gun legislation, and our goal is not to confiscate your precious guns. Is it too much to ask that severely mentally ill people should not be allowed to purchase nor handle guns? Do you think it’s outlandish to expect reasonable background checks and wait a couple of weeks? Do you clutch at your Glock in the fetal position?

  • Jason Newstedt

    I’d like to point out that the MN Senate is dominated by Republicans right now. No, seriously. I know you don’t believe me because we look like FUCKING SISSYS right now, but it’s true. Even our own Republicans are lib’tards.

    Fucking hell. I’m going to set this damn state on fire if something doesn’t change. I WANT MY FUCKING STATE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU M-O-R-O-N-S!!!!!!

    • markinator

      Looks like you’re ready to snap, you fucking sissy. Yes, even your own republicans are libtards. But at least you have a deep-seated negative stereotype of them. Did you torture animals as a child?

      • Danielle Timmons Koprowski

        For someone who cites the negative implications of stereotypes, you tend to employ them frequently in the comment retorts. FYSA – your Christian and Republican hate are showing.

      • Jason Newstedt

        Nah, I’m actually part of a much larger group of individuals that will take the state of MN back. Just be patient.

  • Alleged Comment

    PROOF Demoncraps are COMMUNIST. Have no love for America. Does not wish it success or to prosper.

    We don’t need no proof anymore. We just need to go POOF! Demoncrap GONE!!!

    • Jack

      Though the massed Armies of George Soros daily, plot, Demonstrate, use violence, propagandize, disrespect, and work with Foreign Elements, leak top secret or higher classified material out of context to try make 45 look bad YOU understand that part of the Oath of Office “to defend and protect the Constitution from ALL ENEMIES Foreign and DOMESTIC.”

    • markinator

      People who bastardize names like “Demoncraps” for example, have been shown to have substandard mental faculties, and most of them tortured animals as kids. But not you, no way. Clearly you’re quite intelligent. I bet you’re in Mensa.

      • Alleged Comment

        The only people to basturdize them are the Demoncraps themselves.

        It’s funny about the left so many ways their names give them away.

        Dumbocrats, DemoRATS, Democraps, Demonrats, etc.

        Hillaryous, BO, B’lack Obama, Paula RINO, Diane Frankenstein, Nancy PILAUsy, MEchele, Barbara Boxhead, LBJ (lewd blo job), and why do so many sexual deviants begin with Bill?

        Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Bill O’ Really, Bill Maher, etc.

  • Jack

    Pamela Geller this article resonates with me the true nature of Leftist Anti-Semitism. What is FGM the purposeful removal (clitoris) of the ability to engage in enjoyable sex by the woman. By this medical albeit barbaric procedure the idea is to help keep the married woman from straying from home. Isn’t this an excellent method of maintaining matrimonial bliss?
    Now to demonstrate the hypocracy of the Left Europe, San Francisco and other American localities have wanted to ban Jewish Circumcision calling it barbaric, without any beneficial health reasons, ruining the enjoyment of sex for the male without his permission and causing a deformity. However remember FGM that has no health benefit, is medically proven to depress the sexual enjoyment of the female, is not in the Quran or Hadith, is Ok to practice because the culture of a savage tribe uses it to tame their women. By the way I can never get a clear answer from officials, are we, the USA, accepting polygamous marriages into the country, paying welfare for all of them in one or more houses and will this too become the new norm forced upon society by the Left? Don’t forget the Left was on the bandwagon in Utah to eliminate the breakaway sect of Mormons for Polygomy. What’s the difference?

    • Fromafar

      P.S. Circumcision does have potential health benefits and it has NO effect on male sexual pleasure.
      This is an apple and orange issue.

      • Jhon Murdock

        It’s OK to think that way just so long as you reserve the choice to have it done to informed, consenting 18 year olds.

        • Fromafar

          Well thank you so much for letting me know what’s OK to think. Big Brother would be proud, very proud of your learning “NewThink” so well.

          • Jhon Murdock

            Aw, shucks. Just a little routine kindness toward someone who doesn’t look or sound like the sharpest tool in the shed.

          • Fromafar

            Since you have zero idea what I look like, or sound like, I’ll just go with stupid is as stupid says.
            Buh bye “Aw Shucks.”

          • Jhon Murdock

            Your unimaginative, dull gray avatar looks (and GED-style comments) say it all.

          • Jhon Murdock

            Your unimaginative, dull gray avatar looks (and GED-style comments) say it all. Toodaloo!

    • Susan

      FMG is in the hadith the rapist pig mohammad approved of it.

  • Fromafar

    Why is it even necessary to have a bill like this when it is CLEARLY A CRIME to subject any woman to this procedure?
    It’s also sexual assault. Prosecute the perpetrators under existing laws and throw them in jail.

    The fact that anyone would vote against this bill on likely “multicultural” evil, is in my opinion a pretty good reason to recall them.

  • Sunshine Kid

    It is time to remove politicians from power if they cannot be moral enough to recognize evil.

  • Ben

    A barbaric practice designed to further facilitate the subjugation of women. Anyone in this country, who is not Muslim, and advocates this practice has ulterior motives for supporting it. Democrat support could only expect their support to ingratiate Muslim citizens to reciprocate when it comes to election time. They could care less about the health of women.

    • markinator

      Democrats do not support the FGM practice, and you’re an utter moron. The GOP budget that attempts to slash all funding for Planned Parenthood ought to demonstrate to you that the republicans subjugate women, and are deliberately mean to them by taking away services they need and use. You have a serious issue with your stereotyping, and should seek professional mental health services.

      • Ben

        The only problem I have with Planned Parenthood is the abortion issue. When a very large portion of a budget is for that purpose then I have a problem with it. Too, your opinion is yours and you’re welcome to it. There still seems to be questions also re: the selling of body parts. I’ll ignore your references to my being a moron and a mental case Those seem to be characteristics of a lot of Democrats – but then I really don’t give a hoot about either party.. Both have their share of idiots.

  • ladywarrior

    Translation of the headline of this story: Dhimmi Demon-crats Want Little Girls Genitalia To Be Mutilated in Order to Please Their Sharia Donors.

    Every time I see these kinds of stories I have to stop and wonder what century I am and if I’m watching an episode of Twilight Zone.

    For God’s Sake, People! This is the frekking 21 Century! Where is the DOJ on these crimes against children?! If a non-Sharia compliant parent even spanks their child the local Children’s services office swoops down and takes their kid!

    I am so dam sick of this! It has to be stopped. I think I’m going to write Attorney General Jeff Sessions and ask him to explain why they aren’t protecting these children from their crazed parents and relatives.

    • markinator

      Are you even able to write a coherent sentence? You bastardized the headline to bolster your own myopic, bigoted character, and then whipped yourself into a frenzy after apparently accepting your own lies as truth. Go ahead and write to Jeff Sessions — his reading comprehension skills are lacking too,

  • Sharia law is antithetical to secular American laws. Unless America intends to create a two-tier system of justice – one for sharia compliant Muslims and one for everyone else – this bill should be passed unanimously. The next bill should outlaw “honor” killing and every other barbarity embraced by sharia compliant Muslims including child marriage, wife beating, murder of homosexuals, and murder of apostates. The Sharia is hostile to Western norms – sharia compliant Muslims can live in any number of Islamic countries – not in America.

    • RayG1

      Linda, It can be claimed that there is “honor” in killing an enemy during a war. Killing an enemy to preserve your freedom and survival is not a shameful thing. The Muslim “honor killings” is murder, pure and simple! It is wicked, shameful, and against our laws. We don’t need any new laws. We just need to enforce the laws we have.

      • Perhaps you are right – but then it appears necessary to unequivocally reassert that our secular laws supersede Islamic sharia law.

      • Bob Mac

        Gary, you are one friend I really look up to. This is Bro’ Bob in The City. God bless you.

    • markinator

      Then you need to explain why our taxpayer funded courts are always clogged with religious butthurt cases from christians who demand to be exempted from the laws the rest of us are expected to follow. How is that not a two-tiered system of religious delusion?

  • RayG1

    For a woman to enjoy sex by having an orgasm with that special someone they are sharing this experience with is part of being human. This is a normal, natural experience for all women. That’s the way God made them. For anyone to take this away from them permanently, is a crime against their humanity. I can’t think of anything more repulsive and gruesome than to mutilate these girls in the name of “religion”. This practice of FGM was started by tribesmen in sub Saharan Africa long before the Muslim prophet Mohammed was born. How can it be claimed that it is a “requirement” in Islam?

    • markinator

      Nearly every facet of christianity was stolen from other places, like christmas and easter for example. Since this has been happening for millenia, how can these holidays be claimed by the christians? When you claim, “that’s the way god made them”, then by default that same god made my grandson with severe autism, and I find that to be completely unacceptable by a god who claims to love us. You clearly have a desire to hate muslims, and you hide behind your own intolerant religion.

      • RayG1

        Why do some kids become autistic when they get vaccinations and others don’t? When the kids become autistic from the vaccinations, it’s because they have some kind of parasite, usually from having pets in the home. The vaccination combines with the parasite somehow and affects the brain. You want to blame “God” for your ignorance of such things? The information that vaccines can cause autism has been out there for years. Yes, my religion is “intolerant”. Christians know that we have exclusive access to God through Jesus the Christ, who is alive and well with God. Islam has a dead pedophile to worship. I don’t hate Muslims, I pity them! They are the victims of Islam. Islam condones and encourages incest. That is why the average Muslim IQ is 80.5. Incest causes high infant mortality, high birth defects, and low intelligence. You think the Muslims blame their god “Allah” on their condition? You really need to rethink your decision to become a liberal. You must get tired of being wrong all the time!

        • Bob Mac

          Brother, I am proud to be your friend.

    • Bob Mac

      All the more reason to constitutionally ban shariah from America.

  • dad1927

    clearly we need to root out these democrats

  • Timothy

    This is another perfect example of why, somehow, Islam must either be destroyed or rendered pretty much useless. One way would be to jail any Muslims who violate American Laws for very long periods of time, maybe even life sentences. Their religion is irrelevant when it comes to human abuses just like any religion that approves and condones human abuse.

  • Philosophy

    Islam is an organized war against woman—woman has not right to feel sexual pleasure. Islam intends to enslave woman, and through woman enslave entire civilized world. Then, why civilized world should grant them citizenship? We must impose certain pre-condition for those Muslim who seek citizenship of US, like 1. No FGM. 2. No Mosque and Quaran that are at war with woman and citizen. Still keep them in suspicious list, and under constant supervision, never allow them to rule ‘us’ by saying what girl and woman should wear?

  • garysvent

    These people should not be allowed into the US who ever practiced this indecent mutilation. In addition, punishment should not be jail or fine but immediate expulsion, with NO right of appeal. Idiot liberals who think girls being removed from their so-called families are being punished a second time would not hesitate to remove them in cases of rape or other abuse; those who think otherwise should not be anywhere near “social work”, or government of any kind, in a civilized society.

    This reluctance to act civilized in cases like this exposes the imbecility of the diversity-freaks among us who think it’s cute to try to turn America into a 3rd world toilet, since in their view it’s just too damn hard to set 3rd world toilets on a better course for their future; apparently this is what comes from being unable or unwilling to recognize that some cultures are far superior to others. We aren’t at perfection as a nation or culture yet, but we were a lot closer a few decades ago before we decided that eggheads knew better than the rest of us how to live productive lives.
    It is not a productive life that denigrates either sex with acts of deptavity and mutilation. Our culture and civilization tell us that’s wrong,’and does so correctly. We learn nothing from worshiping at the shrine of diversity. Nothing but how how to become worse. Shame on these idiots who don’t know or don’t want to know the Absolutes of a helpful life.

    • markinator

      You wrote: ” We learn nothing from worshiping at the shrine of diversity.” So then you prefer a homogenous society where everything and everyone are somehow different, which is a definite contrast in terms and definitions. That will only lead to less random DNA being infused, ultimately resulting in even more red state brain death.

      • garysvent

        You don’t have a clue what I want; but I can tell you I do not want high-brow eggheads designing societies as if they know better how the human species should progress.
        Nazis tried that. Lenin and other manipulators tried that. Margaret Sanger loved that.

        The world was better when it was NOT planned by bureaucrats and so-called thinkers. Progressivism is a failure; Islam is a similar poison.
        Busybodies have ruined far more lives than they have saved. Go live in your library and stay the hell away from real people.

  • Sgtsnuffy

    WHAT ??? DON’T OLD WHITE MEN WANT THE YOUNG GIRLS TO BE MUTILATED ???? HELL THEY BLAME EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ISLAM PERPETRATES ON HUMANITY ON US !!! SURPRISED THEY DIDN’T CALL OUR OPPOSITION TO THIS SAVAGE PRACTICE OF SUBMISSION RACIST OR ISLAMOPHOBIA OR SOME SUCH GARBAGE . IF THEY DON’T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS EVIL CRAP THEN THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN THE SAVAGES WHO DO IT .

  • Irwin Stolzenberg Dds

    The legislatures who are women should undergo FMG then lets take look how they vote.

  • Steve

    Leftists continue to “cut off their nose to spite their face” with obstructing the republicans at every turn. Twenty-eighteen will show them the error of their ways – maybe. Over the last 8 years democrats have lost over 1000 seats at all levels of government. But I sure am not losing sleep over their committing political suicide though it is hard to listen the insanity of waters, pelosi, schumer, et al. On the other hand they are giving the comedians a run for their money.

    • markinator

      That’s called wishful thinking, and rationalization. The comedians aren’t skewering democrats at all. They’re poking fun at your poster boy Trump directly. He’s got a fetish to legitimize his illegitimate “victory” of nearly 3 million fewer votes. We have him red-handed violating numerous Constitutional clauses, like the Emoluments Clause that he just violated again over the weekend. He gave the biggest weapons deal to the Saudis, in exchange for their agreement to enrich his daughter’s private foundation. And you’re okay with how he just made the deal by using our taxpayer money and resources to coddle that nation of misogynists, and used that leverage to enrich his daughter. Gee, don’t you wish he would have gotten a better deal for you?

  • OLD FART MARINE

    Send every last one of the Somalis back to their point of origin. Segregate the world and make the laws simple. SomaliLand is for Somalis! They don’t belong here in the United States, some people don’t want freedom or can’t handle it!
    SEMPER FIDEILS

    • markinator

      Why stop at merely sending Somalis back? Let’s send back the Germans, Italians, Mexicans, British, Japanese, French, and all the rest of the ethnicities you seem oblivious to. Then your white kids can only marry their white relatives because the gene pool is so shallow. And the saying is “Semper Fidelis”, for the Marines who are literate.

      • OLD FART MARINE

        Rooster Vacuum, now that’s a term you should know and love.
        Cowards like yourself suck at combat and usually get everyone killed.
        Word of advice, cut the apron strings, and improve your argument.
        SEMPER FIDELIS 241 Years killing the enemies of Freedom, regardless of ethnicity!

      • Robinske2

        Another post from the biggest fool on the internet.

  • santashandler

    So, big brother is now worried about ‘big brother’ being too overpowering on families. total insanity! who’s at the controls of this ship

  • solange9

    FGM is already illegal. How many more laws do we need? We first need to enforce the ones we do have. I know the doctors recently arrested for this are going to trial, so it is clearly illegal.

  • John Stevens

    Did you say “Islamophobia”? They don’t want to assimilate, they want to conquer.

    • markinator

      And that’s different from christian claims that they must share their gospel with the world how? They simply want to conquer by spreading their religious delusions, in exchange for that promise of eternal homage to jesus. As I understand it, in heaven you get to line up with jesus each day to point and laugh at the souls burning for his eternal amusement. Then watch some Syrian orphans starve slowly, and round out the night by winning some red state football games.

  • MosheAkiva

    Great news. The next step is to force every feminazi for the procedure if she is allied with muslims.

    • markinator

      Will you do it yourself, tough guy, or expect others to do your dirty work?

  • Philosophy

    The basic terms is this–Genital Mutilation—of Male and Female–both served same purpose. Naturally Genital is sits of sexual pleasure, and in Quran this sex pleasure is HARAM…

    Why haram ?

    Followers of Islam is not a civilian, hope to live homely family life. Follower of Islam is in fact solders, devoted to militant. He…..not she….is at war with civilization, at citizen. Where both are not allowed to taste the pleasure of sex organ, granted by nature. Islam is at war with those who are enjoying nature, by using their brain power.

    Muslim will never obey Civil Code. To follow sharia–that is follow Quaran is thier first priority. They do not come to live civilian life, but to destroy civilization.

    There is only one option, withdraw their citizen with single order, means withdraw their right to life, right educate and all civilian profession. put under constant watch of State Military, order them kill them if they break any single law, like attack girl or woman, involve in looting, no political activity, this much is enough. Let them go back to their native place at their own expense. No mercy.

    This is the only option to save your civilization, other loss for Islam.

    • markinator

      For a troll, you’re not very bright.

      • Robinske2

        Are you talking about yourself stooge?

  • Brenda Golden

    For those who don’t think this is a bad thing step up, drop your drawers, and let someone start cutting with a razor just like they do to little girls. No pain killers, no sterile surroundings, just some demon with a rusty razor. Then if you heal you can come back and tell us all how wonderful it is.

    • markinator

      For those of you who support the Faith Healers who annually pray kids to death in the US, you are condemning young american citizens to die from the christian delusions imposed upon them as children. Thanks to them, we’ve learned that it takes about 3 years for a child to die of untreated asthma while the parents do nothing but pray to appease their imaginary, vengeful god.

  • iprazhm

    This is nothing but INSANITY! Just when you think no democrat can surpass the current evil of the whole, they prove you wrong once again!

    • markinator

      What did the democrats do regarding the subject of this article? It’s the republicans who control everything. Yet you blame Democrats for this. It’s insanity, that much is certain. You just need to figure who’s sane, and who isn’t.

      • Robinske2

        Obviously you’re a dem stooge- your beloved party is doing everything under the sun to embrace Islam and limit law enforcement from protecting the innocent. Perhaps you would be better off getting your friends in the Islamic community to use the Koran to make a case why terrorism is wrong so teir members don’t commit atrocities like FGM and worse.

  • Greg Hartley

    All children, regardless of gender, culture or parental religion, have a fundamental right to keep all their healthy, functional genitalia.

    • markinator

      When did the dead kids of Faith Healers get to choose that religion that kills them slowly? They have a fundamental right to keep their body living.

      • Robinske2

        What the he*& are you even babbling about moron? Do you even know what the article is about- you’re the biggest idiot ever to post- go back to your mommies cellar and…

  • davehogue

    How did Minnesota wind up with this many perverts? What they need is a bill to ban Muslims.

  • Mark

    This bill is a response to an emergency. It is well thought out and makes clear a fundamental principle : the practice of FGM is intolerable. It is unethical medicine defined: unnecessary, painful, disfiguring, and irreversible. Mutilated nerves will be sending pain messages to the brains of the victims until they die. This is allowed?

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