ACLU Opposes Maine Bill Criminalizing Female Genital Mutilation

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This same thing is happening with Democrats opposing legislation against female genital mutilation in Minnesota — the islamization of America.

And Minnesota doctors recently charged with mutilating the genitals of little girls are claiming it is a religious Islamic right. And the left is taking up the fight for the savages.

Perhaps they are taking this tack because the American Academy proposed a resolution to sanction a “ritual [clitoral] nick” back in 2010. As I warned at the time, and we see now how right I was, such a resolution would give Islamic misogyny the seal of approval by the American Academy of Pediatrics, no less. The sanction of clitordectomies, the sanction and norming of evil. We defeated that proposal, but female genital mutilation continued apace because of the increase in Muslim immigration.

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FGM fact sheet:

 The number of women and girls at risk for female genital mutilation (FGM) in the United States has more than doubled in the past 10 years. More than half a million women and girls in the U.S. are at risk of undergoing FGM in the U.S. or abroad, or have already undergone the procedure, including 166,173 under the age of 18, according to the Population Reference Bureau (PRB).

Dissemblers and deceivers claim that FGM is cultural phenomenon, not religious. FGM is an Islamic cultural phenomenon. FGM is found only within and adjacent to Muslim communities. (source: Gerry Mackie, “Ending Footbinding and Infibulation: A Convention Account,” American Sociological Review).

Unlike male circumcision, female genital mutilation has no health benefits for girls and women.

Female genital mutilation (FGM) involves partial or total removal of the clitoris, causing injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons.

Femal genital mutilation procedure has no health benefits for girls and women. It removes all possibility of sexual pleasure. It is the worst kind of misogyny.

Procedures can cause severe bleeding and problems urinating, and later cysts, infections, as well as complications in childbirth and increased risk of newborn deaths.

 More than 200 million girls and women alive today have been cut in 30 countries in Africa, the Middle East and Asia, where FGM is concentrated

FGM is mostly carried out on young girls between infancy and age 15.

FGM is a violation of the human rights of girls and women.

“Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — ‘Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64

Why is it obligatory? Because Muhammad is held to have said so: “Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” — Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75

“Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: ‘Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.’” — Abu Dawud 41:5251

“Do not cut severely,” but not “Do not cut.”

That’s why it is so common around the world, and why it is certain to become increasingly common in the United States, particularly with help from the ACLU, which doubtless wants to avoid appearing to be “Islamophobic.” (Robert Spencer)

“ACLU Opposes Maine Bill Criminalizing Female Genital Mutilation,” by Anders Hagstrom, Daily Caller, May 26, 2017 (thanks to Jihad Watch):

The American Civil Liberties Union launched a vocal opposition this week against a Maine bill criminalizing female genital mutilation (FGM), Mainely Media reports.

Republican Rep. Heather Sirocki is sponsoring the bill, saying that it would classify performing FGM as a Class B crime in the state, punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a $20,000 fine. The bill would also punish the parent or guardian of the victim.

However, the Maine ACLU staunchly opposes the protection. ACLU spokesman Oamshri Amarasingham said that the risk of mutilation isn’t worth expanding Maine’s criminal code. The Maine Coalition Against Sexual Assault also supported the ACLU, arguing that FGM is not happening in Maine.

Sirocki, however, pointed to a 2012 report from the Center for Disease Control, which found 500,000 victims of FGM in the US. Furthermore, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement found that 400 individuals have been arrested and 785 deported for FGM violations nationwide since 2003.

Maine, Sirocki said, is one of the eight highest-risk areas in the US for FGM. The practice has proven to be so rampant in the state that it has received special federal funding to combat it.

Sirocki’s bill would also criminalize “vacation cutting,” the practice of flying briefly overseas to subject minors to FGM in nations that haven’t banned the practice.

While FGM has been a crime federally since 1996, Maine is one of the highest-risk areas in the country for the practice, and Sirocki said that law enforcement needs to be able to try offenders on the state level….

 Look at how the left has brainwashed our children:
https://youtu.be/YQge2xTKPno
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taxpayer22
taxpayer22
6 years ago

ACLU Opposes Maine Bill Criminalizing Female Genital Mutilation

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago

The aclu is another brain dead socialist organization that made money from keeping America weak. It is on the same turnip wagon as hollywood, the lame stream media and boring tv monotone monologue preachers. The mutilation of girls is the mark of slavery.

taxpayer22
taxpayer22
6 years ago

Islamic Female Genital Mutilation also can include removal.

Where are the protests by the feminists ?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
6 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

Todays “feminists” are a cult of self anointed elitists who are trying to position themselves at the front of the parade to give the illusion others are following them. Most are muslim, muslim women do not have opinions, they are directly controlled by men. The feminist movement is a puppet show with strings being controlled by imams.

Edward Cline
Edward Cline
6 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

The feminists are also too busy creating feminist “physics” and a feminist version of the Genome.

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Tinarferguson
6 years ago
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Suresh
Suresh
6 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

Agree. Obama destroyed America economically , aided jihadis and brought in over 600,000 future jihadis and Paid Pro-muslim Media supported it.

Did you know NaTO member Islamic Republic of Turkey allows harvesting of organs from refugee childrens http://tinyurl.com/mfpzzl8

And that includes killing children ! And even UN was aware of it for over 3 years but keeps blaming syrian govt !

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago
Reply to  Suresh

Yes, the U.N. is “monitoring” this so it will continue.

Lady
Lady
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

And profiting I bet.

boocat
boocat
6 years ago
Reply to  Lady

Getting their “cut” of the sweetness.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

Female genital mutilation not only describes cutting off the hood of the clitoris and total removal of the clitoris but can also include removal of the major and minor labia and the sewing of the bloody residual flesh over the urethra so a channel is made by the ifibulation of a stick or other object to keep this channel open while it heals so that the female has to dribble urinate through a common urethral and vaginal orifice made very small until marriage to prevent any sexual activity. Females enjoying sexual pleasure is purposely destroyed to prevent infidelity. Side effects include recurrent urinary tract infections, incontinence, chronic pain and increased mortality of childbirth. Many girls do not survive this barbaric mutilation, usually done by women using unsterilized instruments such as razor blades, dying of blood loss and infection.These practices did not begin with Islam but are predated among many African cultures including pharaonic circumcision which is the most radical kind as described above. The WHO has condemned these practices. Feminists are anti-female, they debase motherhood and could care less about girls and women who have undergone this horror. Do unto them what they want done to others.

Mike Harris
Mike Harris
6 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

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IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike Harris

So Ahmed, does this mean you support FGM? Why don’t you get your lips circumcised?

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

Agreed. Where are the feminists who specializes in horror stories like “back alley coat hanger” abortions?

Joe1938
Joe1938
6 years ago
Reply to  taxpayer22

The 1%’er “feminists” are libtards and dance to the strings of their puppet masters as did the retarded puppet.

Robinske2
Robinske2
6 years ago

Satan will not divide his house.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

The ACLU has teamed up with Godless LIBERAL JEWS and infested with, drum roll, MUSLIMS! Both typically spend their time harassing Christians.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  felix1999

As a political conservative who is of the Jewish Faith, I despise what the liberal Jews are doing. But most liberals/leftists are not Jewish so I must perceive a bit of Jew-hatred in your post. There are atheistic Jews and those of Christian descent but many lib-Jews have distorted the commandment of Tikkun Olam, “to help fix the world” and have gotten it very wrong.

felix1999
felix1999
6 years ago

It’s ILLEGAL. I believe this is also FEDERAL law.

Lady
Lady
6 years ago

How can anyone say that the ACLU is for minorities anymore?

Barry Wendell Jackson, Esq.
Barry Wendell Jackson, Esq.
6 years ago
Reply to  Lady

I was once a strong member and supporter of the ACLU. I am a Liberal, Blue Dog Democrat (look it up).
I terminated my membership decades ago as I perceived ACLU to be abandoning its values, and seemingly becoming puppets of extreme leftists. All too often I disagreed with their positions. That on FGM is a example of a terrible position. The ACLU does not even understand that Islam (submit) is not a religion but a political and social movement, to establish a Global Caliphate.
Once established (and even before) agnostics and atheists will be executed (unless they convert.) And there will be no more elections. (Islam combines government and religion.)

Christians may be comforted to know that if they will submit to the Caliphate, and pay the required tax, they will at least be able to pray in private. I am not so comforted.

I am comforted by knowing (not believing) that my SOUL will survive my death. (Search for “Out of Body”, and also for souls.) I have seen souls, beginning with news videos of Fukushima. Souls are invisible when they perceive eyes may see them. Surveillance videos will record them. i have seen such.

I am a Major, USMCR(Retired). Once, during Korea, I was the target of sustained sniper fire. The very accurate sniper was always a foot low and 4-5 feet to my right. He did not sweep his target. I did not flinch or move. My platoon observed that I had no fear of death. I still have no fear of death.

BTW- There are some (5% or so) Muslims that I consider friendly. Without setting out details, these are:
1. Kurds.
2. Ismailis.
3. Sufi.
4. Druze
5. Ahmadi
6. Ibadi

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

Really?
Kurdish muslums were fully complicit in the genocide of 2.5 million Armenian and Assyrian Christians in Turkey/Armenia.
Ahmadi muslums? Ms. Geller had a news story out of Canadastan right here that described a publicly funded apartment building run by f’ing Ahmadi that disallowed non-muslims from being tenants.
Have any of your “good” muslums renounced jihad or the rabid Jew hate that is part and parcel of islum?
FOAD.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago

Bless you for your service in Korea. You- and those who served as you did- saved millions from the depredations of Fat Boy and his ancestors.

My animus toward the ACLU began in the 1970’s when they tried to ship a 14 year old Ukrainian lad back to Breshnev’s clutches.

boocat
boocat
6 years ago

The Kurds are salt-of-the-earth people. I have seen photos of brave Kurdish daughters, unveiled, in their military fatigues out fighting for freedom.

barbara
barbara
6 years ago

There is no way a Civilized World can condone the Satanic, Barbaric, Ghoulish, Savage Torture.of Female Genital Mutilation. The ACLU has become a Cult of Insane Psychotic Attorneys who have lost all sense of humanity and common decency!!!! To put in bluntly the ACLU has Lost Their F##cking mind. What’s next? Public beheading in American Town Squares???? They have fallen under some kind of Middle Eastern Sharia Voo-Doo Spell !!! Ban the ACLU !!!!

Gary Ritzman
Gary Ritzman
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

The ACLU represents people who commit criminal and obscene acts. But it seems that if you are middle class white they run from you with their hair in fire.

barbara
barbara
6 years ago
Reply to  Gary Ritzman

Hi Gary!! I responded to you but got the red pending button.!!!! Need to call them commies ect ect.

Gary Ritzman
Gary Ritzman
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

The Discuspolicecanbeasses100%

barbara
barbara
6 years ago
Reply to  Gary Ritzman

Gary, “BINGO” lol !!! They did not like the part about white middle class males being very intelligent and could think for themselves. They prefer the poor ole me victim to further their commie agenda!!! Anyway I thanked you for your service in Nam ect. My brother was there as a tunnel rat and you Nam vets are the greatest!!!!!God Bless

Gary Ritzman
Gary Ritzman
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

The ACLU really steps up when the so called victim is from the inner city. The only requirement is to have been on taxpayer paid subsidies now and more than one generation. Please give my very best to your brother, one the bravest of the brave. Be well US Army vet.

barbara
barbara
6 years ago
Reply to  Gary Ritzman

Thank You Gary and I know you were the bravest of the brave too!!! Thank God you both made it back!!!! MAGA!!!!

Joann
Joann
6 years ago
Reply to  Gary Ritzman

100%

Susan P
Susan P
6 years ago
Reply to  Gary Ritzman

My 6th grade teacher, back in 1957-58 warned us repeatedly to avoid any contact with the ACLU. She claimed they were a communist front and any association with them would haunt our whole lives. In all the years since, I have never once seen the ACLU on the correct side of any argument.

Carowal
Carowal
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

Yeah, the spell is called political bribes.

Mike Harris
Mike Harris
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

Why do you want to protect Muslims?
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barbara
barbara
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike Harris

I’t called “EXPOSURE” You FAKE TROLL!!!

MGTOWER
MGTOWER
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

Daily reminder: Male circumcision is far worse than female circumcision (both in terms of amount of tissue/nerves removed and totoal numbers of victims), and it continues on an industrial scale.

http://imgbox.com/7lf9fTkE

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  MGTOWER

Totally medically untrue. Removal of the foreskin which is the tissue that covers the glans penis has no effect on sexual pleasure in the male. The glans penis, which is the biological equivalent of the female clitoris, is the tissue that is responsible for sexual pleasure and is heavily innervated and has a large supply of blood vessels for engorgement. Both the clitoris and glans penis are the sexual organs of humans and stimulation of this erectile tissue results in orgasm. Remove either one and no orgasm is the result.

MGTOWER
MGTOWER
6 years ago
Reply to  CindyLouTerror

>Removal of the foreskin which is the tissue that covers the glans penis has no effect on sexual pleasure in the male

The male foreskin is the main erogenous zone of the male as opposed to the female foreskin, which nearly has no nerve endings. They are anatomical equivalents but they aren’t microanatomical equivalents. The male glans has only few nerve endings for rough sensitivity comparable to the rough touch sensitivity of the human eye.

Moreover it’s funny how you talk about “biological equivalent” body parts but then don’t conclude that if it’s allowed to ablate boys’ foreskin then so it be allowed to ablate girls’ foreskin, and if it’s prohibited for girls then so should it be for boys.

augustwest747
augustwest747
6 years ago
Reply to  MGTOWER

The clitoris is not equivalent to female foreskin.
Male foreskin is NOT the main erogenous zone.

boocat
boocat
6 years ago
Reply to  barbara

The ACLU is a vile, un-American organization.

barbara
barbara
6 years ago
Reply to  boocat

Hi boocat !! The ac-lu are full of diabolical demon-possessed criminally insane insurgents and need to be charged with Treason and Sedition!!!!

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago

That ACLU spokesman? A f’ing muslum? Gee, what a surprise he doesn’t want to see FGM outlawed. This is the norming of islamic “values” in the USA.

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago

to equate removing a girl’s clitoris with removing foreskin on a penis — c’mon, people. now, if you remove the guy’s penis, THEN they’re equal. remove sexual pleasure for the male? outrage! cruelty! and that is precisely what this does to a woman. my god. that it is being promoted by Americans? my god … how much money is the ACLU getting from Muslims? that would be one of my first questions.

this is cruelty and brutality, nothing less. courtesy of Islam. and now endorsed by anyone in America?

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

How much funding does the ACLU and Southern Poverty(?) Law Center get from soros?

Michael Buley
Michael Buley
6 years ago
Reply to  CindyLouTerror

Soros is behind a lot of it, for sure. I admit to not knowing enough about the guy. I should by now. Have to correct that.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

Most web sites about him are redacted and changed often so choose your sources.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

Just remove the glans penis which is the biologic equivalent of the clitoris. This procedure may delay or remove ejaculation but there are other ways to harvest semen and inseminate females.

MGTOWER
MGTOWER
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buley

>to equate removing a girl’s clitoris with removing foreskin on a penis — c’mon, people. now, if you remove the guy’s penis, THEN they’re equal

Clueless VIRGIN detected. Learn some basic anatomy for Pete’s sake.
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Moreover it’s completely irrelevant whether cutting off feet or hands is worse. Keep knives away from children’s genital.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  MGTOWER

Allahtard please prove that the “vaginal tube and ovaries” are equivalent to the penis and testicles. This should be good for a laugh.

Grant Woodside
Grant Woodside
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

How do you think children are created?
Divine conception?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Grant Woodside

Duh, so then how can the vaginal tube and ovaries be equivalent to the penis and testicles genius?

Robert Batchelor
Robert Batchelor
6 years ago

The ACLU has got to go! They are just plain looney tune on this and, as a result, we have to fight them on this to save our women. Every day it’s something new. I’m just left shaking my head and wondering—what next?

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago

soros has got to go and the list of gotta-go’s is almost endless.

knightsstrength
knightsstrength
6 years ago

ACLU should not dictate till all of them, their families have had FGM, and males Castration themselves

NSNZ
NSNZ
6 years ago

EVERYTHING islam is DISGUSTING.

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
6 years ago

That quoted statistic about the commensurate number of US females under 18 being at risk for FGM more than doubling in the past 10 years tells you all you need to know about this barbaric and primitive procedure. Whose numbers among the US population has increased dramatically over the past decade, either through birth or immigration? Who was President during eight of those ten years? I rest my case.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago

Who was the Kenyan born muslim, terrorist supporting, open borders preventing ICE from doing its job and violating US law, illegal POTUS who imported unvetted “refugees” and ebola carrying Africans? Who dropped $400,000,000 into Iran in non-US money? Who wanted to continue these policies? You are spot on, Drew.

Alleged Comment
Alleged Comment
6 years ago

The ACLU has long long been known as a communist organization. Very anti-American and wishes to see America go down in flames.

If they were anti-communist in Russia or China they would have been beaten and tortured to death a long long time ago.

They do not know how lucky and free they are in America. Such a RUBBISH organization.

joe1429
joe1429
6 years ago

As usual the aclu on the wrong side!

tn_tea _ partyer_420
tn_tea _ partyer_420
6 years ago

Let the ACLU lawyers who are women defending this practice be the first to hop up on the table and put their feet up in the stirrups

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago

You are too kind. That’s not the way it is done to the majority of muslim girls. In muslim countries, Africa, Asia no pain killers are used, often rusty bloodstained razor blades or glass do the cutting while the girls are held down, many die from loss of blood or infection. There is a lot of information and disgusting pictures on the ‘net. If the “procedure” is done by a doctor, the resulting loss of female sexual pleasure and disfigurement and side effects are the same. Any doctor doing this should be imprisoned for life.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago

The American Academy of Pediatrics most likely did that for financial reasons. They exist by charging doctors to take board certification exams and to re-certify . They also charge membership fees and with so many doctors being allowed into the USA from Islamic countries they form a relatively large block of payers to AAP. If AAP offended them by saying that FGM is wrong they could refuse to pay for all this and AAP sees that as a loss in potential revenue.

If you follow the money trail the motive will appear.

Forrest Grump
Forrest Grump
6 years ago
Reply to  CreoleGumbo

Hogwash! You made an absurd statement, but fail to back if up with any type of proof. You must have worked for the MSM.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago
Reply to  Forrest Grump

You are obviously not a doctor and you are obviously unaware of the politics of medicine and its professional organizations. If my statement said AMA as opposed to AAP would you call that hogwash too?

Forrest Grump
Forrest Grump
6 years ago
Reply to  CreoleGumbo

I suppose that my doctorate in dental surgery and 35 years as a member of the ADA doesn’t prove that I have been immersed in medicine in general and one of its subsidiaries: dentistry? Your reply clearly illustrates that you have not done your homework, and that you again have made yet another completely spurious assumption which, as I again reiterate, is factual only in your own mind.

As President of a local medical/dental association for 15 years, I can assure you that I know what I am talking about, but if you wish to continue with more baseless nothing-burgers, be my guest. You will continue to show your ignorance.

CreoleGumbo
CreoleGumbo
6 years ago
Reply to  Forrest Grump

Actually it does not because dentistry and its politics is different from medicine.

pennant8
pennant8
6 years ago

If you are wondering why the state of Maine, a state that hardly ever gets in the news unless the price of lobsters goes up, is suddenly in the news over FGM, it’s because Maine was selected to be one of the receiving states when the US decided to import Somalis by the planeload.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  pennant8

Over 90% of Somali women have had the most severe form of FGM done to them. Unfathomable.

drummie
drummie
6 years ago

WHERE are all the pink “vagina” hats?

Edward Cline
Edward Cline
6 years ago

The ACLU would condone and champion the ritualistic murder of a child with a knife or an ax if it were claimed to be part of a religious Satanic ritual. The Duh! Brigade is on the loose!

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago
Reply to  Edward Cline

As long as it wasn’t the practice of Christians or Jews. Both religions the ACLU fights to eradicate.

Timothy
Timothy
6 years ago

The ACLU is another organization that’s on its way out the door too. Its days are numbered because its lost all of its morals and values towards just about every issue it’s involved itself in. Its become even more deceitful and twisted in these troubling times we’re living in today. It will fall just like all the rest of the Evils that exist these days. This is a War now a War between Good & Evil

Gordon Miller
Gordon Miller
6 years ago

Very nice example of Muslims bringing their wonderful customs and culture to our country. Yes, FGM will soon be standard practice here. Praise Allah. And thank you ACLU for your thoughtfulness.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
6 years ago
Reply to  Gordon Miller

Yes, ain’t multiculturalism swell?

Stephen Honig
Stephen Honig
6 years ago

The ACLU (American Criminals Liberty Union). The liars I mean lawyers should be charged for criminal behavior and put in prison. They are not the same organization as it was in its nescent time. They only represent the worst evil miscreants. Just like the Democratic party that morph into the evil Liberal/Progressive party.

Apothis
Apothis
6 years ago

It is a complete hypocrisy for any American woman to support this practice.

dts6b
dts6b
6 years ago

Muslims were not the first to bring FGM to the U.S. For over 130 years, American doctors – Christian and Jewish – did various forms of what we now call FGM. Check out Prof. Sarah Rodriguez’s excellent book “Female Circumcision and Clitoridectomy in the United States: A History of a Medical Treatment”. Prof. Rodriguez teaches in the medical school of Northwestern U in Chicago. As far back as the 1860s, American doctors were cutting female genitals in an effort to
prevent/cure masturbation and other “ills”. Playgirl and Cosmopolitan magazines published articles in the mid 1970s promoting “female circumcision” to improve the sex lives of women. Blue Shield would pay for a female circumcision until the late 1970s. When Christian and Jewish doctors were cutting female genitals they did not call it FGM. We had nice, polite terms like “Orificial Surgery”. Google “Journal of Orificial Surgery” and you can find Google e-books available free over the internet so that anyone can read what American doctors were doing to little girls.

CindyLouTerror
CindyLouTerror
6 years ago
Reply to  dts6b

Unfortunately your post is misleading in support of your point of view. There were many things done for misguided ignorant “medical” reasons in the past. But never done in the name of “religion!” Why does your post compare apples and oranges?

dts6b
dts6b
6 years ago
Reply to  CindyLouTerror

You might want to read the first AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) 2010 FGM policy statements where it points out that there are Christians and Jews who also want to cut their daughters.
“FGC has been documented in individuals from many religions, including Christians, Muslims, and Jews.” This is in the section CULTURAL AND ETHICAL ISSUES on page 1089 of the policy statement which you can find at: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2010/04/26/peds.2010-0187.full.pdf
I don’t think I’m comparing “apples and oranges” as you claim. My post was to point out to previous posters that FGM is not just a Muslim issue. American doctors, Christian and Jewish, were using their religious beliefs about “sin” as justification for cutting little girls.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  dts6b

They still oppose it and from what I can see there is no mention of any religion at all (gee, I wonder why?):
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2010/04/26/peds.2010-0187

dts6b
dts6b
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

The link is just to the “Gateway” page of the AAP policy statement. If you click on “download PDF” you will find the references to “Christians, Muslims, and Jews” as I noted above.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago
Reply to  dts6b

In which section do I read where Christian & Jewish girls were circumcised with rusty blades or cut glass? What page has the numbers that died from blood loss and infection? Did they have their female relatives holding them down and clamping their mouths shut as they screamed in pain?

dts6b
dts6b
6 years ago

I have news for you, Pork, but back in the 1860s when American doctors started cutting female genitals, they often were using rusty blades – and they certainly weren’t using sterile technique or anesthesia. Read any history of medicine to see how doctors didn’t understand even the most rudimentary ideas of germs or hygiene. BTW, a few years ago, I saw an exhibit on the history of medicine in Chicago from the 1890 until 1910. There were 16 business cards of doctors in the Chicago area on display. 4 of the business cards were for Jewish doctors who were also advertising their services as “antiseptic mohels”. These doctors were trying to distinguish themselves from other doctors who weren’t practicing the new ideas. While these doctors may well have wiped their instruments with alcohol briefly, those instruments were then laid down on dirty table tops before use. Medical schools in the 1800s and early 1900s were nothing like medical schools today. Any kind of surgery before about the mid 1900s really was a very risky event.

Duchess of Pork
Duchess of Pork
6 years ago
Reply to  dts6b

Naturally any surgery before sterility and anesthesia were routine would be unhygenic so please answer again part 1 of my question. Take it from the 1930s if that makes it easier. Also awaiting replies to parts II and III. Thank you.

Phil McDonald
Phil McDonald
6 years ago

Use the same argument for Honor Killing of little girls and discarded wives.

Sage Nighthawk
Sage Nighthawk
6 years ago

To ALL of these so-called Doctors; The Oath that you take is; “First do no harm” but you continue to “MUTILATE the human body with this BARBARIC cult custom”! As Americans WE MUST stop this practice in our Country and the WORLD. This is TORTURE AND MUTILATION OF THE HUMAN BODY!

Warren
Warren
6 years ago

I could not even imagined this had I not read about it on this web site. Guys who want this should just get themselves a rubber doll and leave the real women to real men.
This is just one of the many things that we don’t like about Islam such as honor killing, Jew hatred, jizya tax, and the list goes on and on. They talk about reforming Islam, but my question is: once you take away all of these bad things, what is left?

Karen Willet
Karen Willet
6 years ago

I would go further and also outlaw circumcision. There is no health benefit to it unless Phimosis is a problem as a boy gets older and that is by far a minority of boys.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
6 years ago
Reply to  Karen Willet

It’s easier to get urinary infections when not circumcised.

Karen Willet
Karen Willet
6 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

It is not.

iprazhm
iprazhm
6 years ago
Reply to  Karen Willet

Clearly you are unaware that almost all FGMs involve the COMPLETE removal of the clitoris. That would the same as castration for a male, not circumcision.

Karen Willet
Karen Willet
6 years ago
Reply to  iprazhm

I did not equate the two and I am not unaware. I simply don’t think it good to put a knife to your child without good reason.

Advo
Advo
6 years ago

FGM should not only be illegal, it should be a capital offense.

Joe1938
Joe1938
6 years ago

aclu For FGM says all we need to know about the “aclu”.

D.Moore
D.Moore
6 years ago

No religion gives one the right to mutilate another. Sick belief system these folks have. Just to be straight on the topic I don’t support boys circumcision either.

Joe Stephens
Joe Stephens
6 years ago

Some people in this country seem absolutely blind to horrific practices of other countries and groups. FGM is a horrific practice that has no medical justification. The only thing it has it is to keep women down. ACLU needs to rethink its position.

reticle
reticle
6 years ago

FGM is already illegal. The ACLU supports those laws. Pamela Geller knows this, too. This article mystifies me.

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