‘You are the future of Europe’: Turkish President urges Muslims in Europe to have at least 5 kids

Or invent alternate methods of reproduction, while developing battle robots.

We could with nukes..

In a government report published last month by the German newspaper Rheinische Post, experts recommended an annual intake of up to 300,000

migrants a year for the next 40 years, to counter lower German birth rates.

Without migration, European society and economy would bleed to death. There is no end to migration in the near future. The overall problem when dealing with immigration, is the need to first ascertain where these people have come from:- If they are from Commonwealth Countries (most likely not Australia, Canada, or New Zealand – there the immigration goes the other way), this can be seen as 200 years of imperialism coming back to bite us. If they are from Eastern Europe, this can be seen as 20 years of moronic EU policy coming back to bite us. If they come from the Middle East, this can be seen as 100 years of never ending scheming and meddling in that particular region coming back to bite us.

The people who make me the most ill are the people who decry immigration, then employ immigrant cleaners on crap wages. Yes, it’s much like the Republicans in the US, who stoke hostility against Latino migrants, while all the time depending on them as nannies, cleaners and gardeners. Well of course, they will support any policy that will strengthen their own position whilst damaging the rights of indigenous people and any politician wanting to retain British Values and Liberal values will fall by the wayside. So, the banker from Germany the cleaner from Colombia who cleans his/her office will all vote to strengthen their ‘own’ position, because of course their interests
precisely coincide. Its almost as if you think they are all the same. And what on earth are ‘British values”? If you are talking about the kind of crap spouted by UKIP and the Tories.

These are the reason that there will never be an end to immigration.

There will never be an end to immigration, because of aging
population and low birth rate. Without migration, European society and economy
would bleed to death. There is no end to migration in the near future. The
overall problem when dealing with immigration, is the need to first ascertain
where these people have come from:- If they are from Commonwealth Countries
(most likely not Australia, Canada, or New Zealand – there the immigration goes
the other way), this can be seen as 200 years of imperialism coming back to bite
us. If they are from Eastern Europe, this can be seen as 20 years of moronic EU
policy coming back to bite us. If they come from the Middle East, this can be
seen as 100 years of never ending scheming and meddling in that particular
region coming back to bite us.

I’ve rarely seen a mature debate about immigration, I think
the media have allowed biased neoliberal voices to shout down any positive
immigration fact from being discussed or of the right-wing figures to be
debunked, which the likes of Jonathon Portes have attempted to educate us with.
Most of the issues around immigration are relatively minor, and every independent piece of evidence proves what the trouble is, that this subject is surrounded with masses of hyperbole and exaggeration, which is leading to actual racism.

An immigrant is an immigrant. He is neither illegal or
legal.When does an ‘immigrant’ become a ‘native’?? All of us were immigrants at
one time in the recent or distant past. Especially all white Americans, South
Americans, Africans, Australians. How does their immigration policy sit with the
fact that they just waltzed in and took over?

Europe is dying its natural death. It needs more and more
immigrants to keep their societies alive. Without migration, European societies
and economies would bleed to death.
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The problem is that, for whatever reason, Western women put off having children or don’t have them…while in older-world cultures, having children is seen as a high priority.

But this is not the case – Every society that has given equal status to women – Has had its fertility rate fall below replacement level.

Except Israel. That means that that’s pure coincidence.

We in Eastern Europe aren’t stupid.Croatian and Balkan history of the Middle Ages is the story of Islamic jihad and its war on the people of Croatia and the Balkans.Also the Islamic jihad in the Balkans left consequences felt to this day like the Muslim legacy populations in Bosnia,Kosovo,Albania and Macedonia

Not stupid, but brainwash.

Islam is undefeatable! You cannot extinguish the Light of Almighty Allah! educate yourselves on Islam before it’s too late. You have nothing to loose and everything to gain. Step out of your comfort zone and ask yourself why is Islam always being demonized by the media. Why isn’t anything good being told about Islam? Do you honestly think you know all there is to Islam.? You’ll find your answers in Islam. The haters are mad because it is the fastest growing religion in the world. More women convert in Europe than men. Yet Islam oppresses women? Rather the opposite. Free yourself from the media and THINK for yourself.

To be honest, people are just attracted to Islam because of the sincerity in its pillars of faith. We aren’t invading. They just invited us over hahahaks. “If we judge greatness by influence, he (Mohammed) was one of the giants of history. He undertook to raise the spiritual and moral level of a people harassed into barbarism by heat and foodless wastes and he succeeded more completely than any other reformer; seldom has any man so fully realized his dream. He accomplished his purpose through religion not only because he himself was religious, but because no other medium could have moved the Arabs of his time. He appealed to their imagination, fears and hopes and spoke in terms that they could understand. When he began, Arabia was a desert flotsam of idolatrous tribes but when he died it was a nation. He restrained fanaticism and superstition, but also used them. Upon Judaism, Zoroastrianism and his native creed, he built a religion simple, clear and strong, as well as a morality of ruthless courage and racial pride which, in a generation, marched to a hundred victories in a century to empire and remains to this day a virile force through half the world.”

Islam appears to hold a strange fascination for white British women who are converting to it in large numbers. Of an estimated 50,000 or so white Britons who convert to Islam every year, some two-thirds are thought to be women. Most of them are independent career women — bankers, doctors, broadcasters — who know what they are doing, and often do so in the face of opposition from family and friends. High profile converts include Lauren Booth, sister-in-law of former Prime Minister Tony Blair, well-known journalist Yvonne Ridley and MTV presenter Kristiane Backer.

Though there is no hard data, mosques claim that there has been an increase in the number of converts to Islam since 9/11 with more women approaching them.

“I receive many more inquiries from women. It is quite surprising, given the negative publicity in terms of the mistreatment of women. But women say it was all the negative things that first stimulated their interest,” said Sheikh Imam Ibrahim Mogra from Leicester.

So, what makes professionally successful and liberated western women embrace a faith which has become synonymous with oppression? And what has it been like for these “new mullahs ”?

A ground breaking study by Cambridge University’s Centre of Islamic Studies (CIS) and the Leicester-based New Muslims Project provides a fascinating insight into the experience of women converts. Its 129-page report, “Narratives of Conversion to Islam,” outlines what it describes as “the social, emotional and sometimes economic costs of conversion” and examines the reasons for women converting to Islam in a society with “pervasive negative stereotypes” about it. The study shows they were prompted as much by a genuine curiosity about Islam, especially in the aftermath of 9/11, and a quest for “faith and spirituality” as by a reaction against too much individualism and excessive permissiveness of western culture. Then there are often such practical considerations as the wish to marry a Muslim boyfriend. Many were introduced to Islam by a

Yasir Suleiman, project leader and director of CIS, described conversion as “a complex phenomenon.”

“It is often full of joy and pain for the convert and her family and friends, regardless of the faith to which she converts, but no more so than when the faith is a maligned Islam and its followers.”

Women said people wanted to know why a “liberated/free Western woman would embrace a backward faith that oppresses her.” According to Professor Suleiman, the question implied that there “must be something ‘wrong’ with, or ‘perverse’ about, the female convert to want to do this ‘wrong/perverse’ thing.”

“boyfriend, fiancé or husband.” Some were initially drawn to it out of sheer curiosity and then got “hooked.”

The report — based on the experiences of nearly 50 British women converts of different ages, ethnicities, and faiths or no faith — says that many met with hostile family reactions. One was thrown out by her father who was horrified that she had embraced a “barbaric and uncivilised” faith. Her brother reacted by joining the far-right racist British National Party to prevent further “Islamification” of Britain, and neighbours were told that she had died. When she travelled abroad, her family informed the security services of that country that she was a terrorist.

Atheist families often reacted with greater hostility than the religious ones. One woman said her atheist mother was alarmed that her grandchildren would be indoctrinated into Islam and brainwashed into a set of mythical, “fairy like” beliefs. Most converts reported feeling confused and isolated after the initial euphoria of conversion as they struggled to find acceptance both in their new-found community and the wider

Until now, conversion was not talked about openly and reported mostly in negative terms focusing, for example, on white criminals converted to Islam by Muslim prisoners — or Muslim converts like the terror suspect Richard Reid, the so-called “shoe-bomber” who tried to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight in mid-air by detonating a bomb concealed in his shoe.

This is the first serious study of its kind and is expected to open up the debate on an issue clouded by prejudice. And the prejudice is not all one-sided. Muslims are no less prejudiced towards other faiths, and notoriously sensitive to desertions from their ranks. When Prof. Suleiman says that “converts have the potential to be a powerful and transformative influence on both the heritage Muslim community and wider British society,” one hopes he means all converts not just Muslim converts.
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The government has no money that it does not take from its citizens who work and then give to bureaucrats who are unaccountable to anyone.

All western nations.