End of the Dark Age: Trump to restart space exploration rather than fund climate hoax

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What wonderful news — investing in actual science and divesting from leftwing lunacy. Some of man’s greatest achievements and scientific discoveries came from space exploration.

Obama changed NASA’s mission from space exploration to Muslim outreach. NASA’s Administrator explained that Obama had asked him to “find ways to reach out to dominantly Muslim countries.” (More here: Obama ‘s stone age)

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Trump to send men back to the moon and ‘explore entire solar system’ rather than fight climate change

The president elect could put men on the moon once again – and use money from the climate change budget to do it

By Jeff Parsons, The Mirror, November 23, 2016 (thanks to Van):

Sending Americans back to the moon could also hinge on the appointment of Newt Gingrich, a high-profile Republican, to a top job at NASA.

Gingrich has been a vocal supporter of returning to the moon and has even spoken in the past about creating a permanent base there. He says that such a settlement could sustain around 13,000 people and possibly even become a new American state .

However, investing in a moon mission is likely to divert funds from NASA’s Earth Sciences division which researches climate change.

The division has received a 50% funding increase since president Obama took over. This year it received $1.92 billion at the same time as Obama proposed cutting funding for deep space exploration.

The Donald’s views on climate change are no secret. He has referred to it in the past as a Chinese hoax and claimed it was invented to limit American manufacturing and growth.

Therefore, it’s not much of a stretch to see NASA’s budgets and priorities overhauled during the Trump administration with a focus to putting astronauts back on the moon.

Speaking to The Telegraph , a former congressman who has advised Trump on space policy called NASA a “logistics agency concentrating on space station resupply and politically correct environmental monitoring.”

Bob Walker said that the incoming administration would “start by having a stretch goal of exploring the entire solar system by the end of the century.”

“You stretch your technology experts and create technologies that wouldn’t otherwise be needed. I think aspirational goals are a good thing. Fifty years ago it was the ability to go to the moon.”

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Patrick van Houts
Patrick van Houts
7 years ago
Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
7 years ago

obama increased the debt by 10 trillion dollars. Matching the accumulated debt of ALL his predecessors.
If obama wanted to commit to space exploration he would have done it. Bringing in islamic terrorists into the USA was a higher priority for him.

Patrick van Houts
Patrick van Houts
7 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

That’s weird – you make it sound like Obama deliberately wanted to bring terrorists into the USA. You can’t be serious abou that; but even if you are I am still feeling lucky I am nit an american citizen. Good luck with your country, hopefully your walls will be high enough.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago

van Houts:
I like your coffee. But Honest citizen is correct. There is abundant evidence that Obama has been a steadfast supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) for years, and it has been known for decades as a terrorist group. Hamas is MB, and so were the assassins of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. MB has an informal embassy in Iran, and controls Turkey, through Erdogan. Many ISIS members are MB.

Google ‘Qawadiri’ for more. He is their spiritual leader, and he tells them what to bomb, and why.

Craig
Craig
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

When rat obama was running for prez back in 2007, he said that the U.S. has never suffered, never had a war on its shores and he said he would punish the U.S.
Rat obama has been busy bringing illegal aliens in (he spends $3 million per year in mexico telling folks how to get on benefits once they get here) and the criminal ones (murderers, rapists, robbers) are released just before their deportation dates. Then there is rat obama’s support for sanctuary cities.
The influx of unvetted muslims is a direct attack against the U.S. and an attempt to bring his muzzie buds here. After all, rat obama was raised as a muslim. He just accepted over 2K muzzie that were rejected by Australia and, under secrecy, is bringing them her. The word got out from Australia.
Democrats are the enemy.

Carry,quietly
Carry,quietly
7 years ago

Obamaramalamadingdong specifically wants terrorists in the USA. Why else would he bring in the terrorists rejected by Austrailia?

Trump NOW boot Oblabberbutt!
Trump NOW boot Oblabberbutt!
7 years ago

He’s serious. He’s correct. Obama hates the USA. He is jealous of the success of “white” nations compared to the failure of darker ones. It embarrasses him. AND he is a Muztard, and it is their stated goal to destroy all non-believers (that would be most of us in the USA). Every act he makes is designed to weaken and ultimately destroy the USA. He may succeed. The rapefugees he has allowed into the country are killing Americans regularly. He gave Iran a pathway to nukes – a nation that has vowed to destroy us – where people chant “Death to Amedika” every chance they get.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago

Trump Now:
Marx / Engels worked out the theory behind uplifting the 3rd world and destroying the bourgeoisie Americans. In 1848 they wrote that the bourgeoisie were spreading globally, ripping off and enslaving people of poor countries, to drain resources at cut-rate prices. (The Communist Manifesto, free online).

As the movie ‘2016 Obama’s America’ points out, Obama (and all the Left) still believes that stuff without question.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

They were not ready for this. The democratic free-enterprise republic is the cure for world poverty.
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Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

If you would like some comic relief, there is the Canadian socialist “Leap Manifesto” that was put out by the most brain dead socialists and environmentalists in the nation. Read it and laugh… Then look at the list of those who signed on, truly America should build a wall between Canada and the U.S, it would be embarrassing for pole the stupid to be recognized as Canadians, they should not be let out of the country.

We start from the premise that Canada is facing the deepest crisis in recent memory.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission has acknowledged shocking details about the violence of Canada’s near past. Deepening poverty and inequality are a scar on the country’s present. And Canada’s record on climate change is a crime against humanity’s future.

These facts are all the more jarring because they depart so dramatically from our stated values: respect for Indigenous rights, internationalism, human rights, diversity, and environmental stewardship.

Canada is not this place today— but it could be.

We could live in a country powered entirely by renewable energy, woven together by accessible public transit, in which the jobs and opportunities of this transition are designed to systematically eliminate racial and gender inequality. Caring for one another and caring for the planet could be the economy’s fastest growing sectors. Many more people could have higher wage jobs with fewer work hours, leaving us ample time to enjoy our loved ones and flourish in our communities.

We know that the time for this great transition is short. Climate scientists have told us that this is the decade to take decisive action to prevent catastrophic global warming. That means small steps will no longer get us where we need to go.

so we need to leap.

This leap must begin by respecting the inherent rights and title of the original caretakers of this land. Indigenous communities have been at the forefront of protecting rivers, coasts, forests and lands from out-of-control industrial activity. We can bolster this role, and reset our relationship, by fully implementing the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

“Small steps will no longer get us to where we need to go. So we need to leap”. Moved by the treaties that form the legal basis of this country and bind us to share the land “for as long as the sun shines, the grass grows and the rivers flow,” we want energy sources that will last for time immemorial and never run out or poison the land. Technological breakthroughs have brought this dream within reach. The latest research shows it is feasible for Canada to get 100% of its electricity from renewable resources within two decades[1]; by 2050 we could have a 100% clean economy[2].

We demand that this shift begin now.

There is no longer an excuse for building new infrastructure projects that lock us into increased extraction decades into the future. The new iron law of energy development must be: if you wouldn’t want it in your backyard, then it doesn’t belong in anyone’s backyard. That applies equally to oil and gas pipelines; fracking in New Brunswick, Quebec and British Columbia; increased tanker traffic off our coasts; and to Canadian-owned mining projects the world over.

The time for energy democracy has come: we believe not just in changes to our energy sources, but that wherever possible communities should collectively control these new energy systems.

As an alternative to the profit-gouging of private companies and the remote bureaucracy of some centralized state ones, we can create innovative ownership structures: democratically run, paying living wages and keeping much-needed revenue in communities. And Indigenous Peoples should be first to receive public support for their own clean energy projects. So should communities currently dealing with heavy health impacts of polluting industrial activity.

Power generated this way will not merely light our homes but redistribute wealth, deepen our democracy, strengthen our economy and start to heal the wounds that date back to this country’s founding.

A leap to a non-polluting economy creates countless openings for similar multiple “wins.” We want a universal program to build energy efficient homes, and retrofit existing housing, ensuring that the lowest income communities and neighbourhoods will benefit first and receive job training and opportunities that reduce poverty over the long term. We want training and other resources for workers in carbon-intensive jobs, ensuring they are fully able to take part in the clean energy economy. This transition should involve the democratic participation of workers themselves. High-speed rail powered by renewables and affordable public transit can unite every community in this country – in place of more cars, pipelines and exploding trains that endanger and divide us.

And since we know this leap is beginning late, we need to invest in our decaying public infrastructure so that it can withstand increasingly frequent extreme weather events.

Moving to a far more localized and ecologically-based agricultural system would reduce reliance on fossil fuels, capture carbon in the soil, and absorb sudden shocks in the global supply – as well as produce healthier and more affordable food for everyone.

We call for an end to all trade deals that interfere with our attempts to rebuild local economies, regulate corporations and stop damaging extractive projects. Rebalancing the scales of justice, we should ensure immigration status and full protection for all workers. Recognizing Canada’s contributions to military conflicts and climate change — primary drivers of the global refugee crisis — we must welcome refugees and migrants seeking safety and a better life.

Shifting to an economy in balance with the earth’s limits also means expanding the sectors of our economy that are already low carbon: caregiving, teaching, social work, the arts and public-interest media. Following on Quebec’s lead, a national childcare program is long past due. All this work, much of it performed by women, is the glue that builds humane, resilient communities – and we will need our communities to be as strong as possible in the face of the rocky future we have already locked in.

Since so much of the labour of caretaking – whether of people or the planet – is currently unpaid, we call for a vigorous debate about the introduction of a universal basic annual income. Pioneered in Manitoba in the 1970’s, this sturdy safety net could help ensure that no one is forced to take work that threatens their children’s tomorrow, just to feed those children today.

We declare that “austerity” – which has systematically attacked low-carbon sectors like education and healthcare, while starving public transit and forcing reckless energy privatizations – is a fossilized form of thinking that has become a threat to life on earth.

How we can pay for all of this? Read “We Can Afford The Leap” by Bruce Campbell, Seth Klein, and Marc Lee

The money we need to pay for this great transformation is available — we just need the right policies to release it. Like an end to fossil fuel subsidies. Financial transaction taxes. Increased resource royalties. Higher income taxes on corporations and wealthy people. A progressive carbon tax. Cuts to military spending. All of these are based on a simple “polluter pays” principle and hold enormous promise.

One thing is clear: public scarcity in times of unprecedented private wealth is a manufactured crisis, designed to extinguish our dreams before they have a chance to be born.

Those dreams go well beyond this document. “We call on all those seeking political office to seize this opportunity and embrace the urgent need for transformation”. We call for town hall meetings across the country where residents can gather to democratically define what a genuine leap to the next economy means in their communities.

Inevitably, this bottom-up revival will lead to a renewal of democracy at every level of government, working swiftly towards a system in which every vote counts and corporate money is removed from political campaigns.

This is a great deal to take on all at once, but such are the times in which we live.

The drop in oil prices has temporarily relieved the pressure to dig up fossil fuels as rapidly as high-risk technologies will allow. This pause in frenetic expansion should not be viewed as a crisis, but as a gift.

It has given us a rare moment to look at what we have become – and decide to change.

And so we call on all those seeking political office to seize this opportunity and embrace the urgent need for transformation. This is our sacred duty to those this country harmed in the past, to those suffering needlessly in the present, and to all who have a right to a bright and safe future.

Now is the time for boldness.

now is the time to leap.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Hi Mahou:
Thanks for this. The “leap” seems to mean a “hail Mary”. In football, as the game ends, the losing quarterback sometimes throws the ball far down field, hoping one of his players will catch it, and run for a touchdown. Nothing to lose, and everything to gain. But only if defeat is imminent.

That’s what this “leap” is about. Authoritarian socialism is in its death throes. Gradualism didn’t work, because the people figured out the game. The jig is up. The dogma has literally begun to be erased from Western brains. The Leap Manifesto is a hail Mary pass, dumping the gradualist approach, and trying to stir up the remnants of a dying philosophy before it loses all it’s power completely.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

That sums it up quite nicely, every village idiot in Canada signed on to it.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Extractive projects indeed…

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  David Mason

socialists are so cute when they turn green.

Carry,quietly
Carry,quietly
7 years ago

JFK put men on the moon. Obamalamadingdong put men in womens restrooms. Is that the space research you’re referring to?

scheradoD
scherado
7 years ago
Reply to  Carry,quietly

The Current Executive did that?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Carry,quietly

Well said.

Craig
Craig
7 years ago

That is why he turned NASA into a muslim outreach program. That is why he cut NASA’s budget. His talk about Mars is just BS for the history books.
The poor little weiner is dying just pumping the air pump.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago

Yes. He forced General Services Administration and other US government agencies to condense space, ostensibly to reduce greenhouse gases before this amazing planet goes up in smoke and flames and is reduced to a volcanic cinder.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

So long as it involved muslim space cadets, with direct reference to the qur’an as the ultimate scientific reference.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago

The computer you are using right now came from the space program. NASA has paid for itself many times over. Pouring money into the global warming money pit, not so much.

Craig
Craig
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I notice in many of their atmospheric “calculations”, they always use a static atmosphere model. So, the model is faulty right from the beginning, they just ignore the trillions upon trillions of cubic feet of dynamic atmosphere. It is obvious that “global warming” is a money making industry as shown by the Chicago Climate Exchange (where rat obama is a founding member), which takes money for alleged polluters and the members stand to make trillions of dollars if “carbon credits” ever see the light of day. Al Gore is a billionaire from pushing “green” products of the companies he is on the board of directors of or is a CEO of. East Anglia has stated several times that they faked the numbers to please their governmental masters (as evidenced in their emails released over a decade ago).
I guess no one ever notices that when socialist democrats speak of things they are always a CRISIS or an EMERGENCY or whatever they use and something has to be done now, now, NOW!. This tactic is straight from Saul Alinsky (a communist).

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Hi Craig,
Yes, when you boil global warming down, it evaporates. The best statistic I can find simply points out that almost all extreme warmists are leftists, and most skeptics are conservatives. Pew Research verifies these numbers. Thus, warming is about politics, not science.

This fits with your point about Alinsky and the addiction to emergencies. Since about 1880, socialists have run dozens of catastrophic science scams. The Yellow peril was the imminent catastrophe of huge and endless floods of Asian immigrants reaching US shores.

Acid Rain, Ozone Hole, Killer Bees, Return of the Ice Age, Nuclear Winter, Asteroid impacts, Forest loss, Population explosion, Peak Oil, China Syndrome, Tidal waves, Deserts getting bigger, Clear cutting, spotted owl extinction, snail darter extinction, DDT, etc.

All fostered by the Left, and none came true. The common thread is that capitalism is causing a crisis, (‘The Crisis of Capitalism’), and only big government socialism can save of us from the “Doom Theory Du Jour” as I once called it.

But now, we are armed with the internet, and we can clearly see the MO of the left. Global Warming is dying out in the public eye, so the Left will manufacture another crisis. Millions of Americans are ready for them this time.

Warren
Warren
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

You forgot the delta smelt. Notice that the welfare of the American people is never on their agenda.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  Warren

Yes, the plan is to destroy all democratic free-enterprise republics. Human mortality is irrelevant. It’s just part of the process.
“Death is the solution to all problems. No man – no problem.
~ Joseph Stalin
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joseph_stalin.html

billdeserthills
billdeserthills
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Lets not forget the ‘Blood Running in the Streets’ that was supposedly going to be the end result of the concealed carry programs, that allow citizens the right to carry their own weapons to defend themselves.

JCL154
JCL154
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Yes you are right about next crisis, they are now trying to gin up Sea Level Rise.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  JCL154

JCL134:
Yes. And sea level rise won’t happen without global warming. Recent careful studies of sea level show little or no change. Sea level is dropping in the Arctic (Post Glacial Rebound). Manhattan sea level is dropping, and Al Gore’s prediction of 20 foot sea level rise in Manhattan is just dumb. No evidence for that.

Another new ‘crisis’ is “Ocean Acidification”. Baseless nonsense.

I think the global socialists will go with asteroid impacts next. It would be catastrophic if one occurred, and there are lots of asteroids out there that could be claimed to be “headed directly toward earth”. Asteroid impacts make good propaganda, because the global socialists will claim that we need a global, authoritarian socialist government to prepare for such an asteroid impact.

Dean
Dean
7 years ago
Reply to  Craig

It was a dorm room theory at the beginning and many of the basic postulates were disproved even before it became popular. You’re right, it had to be a fixed model to continue with the hoax fed with and justified through biased input…GIGO.. but it rode on the back of a growing bias that favored theories over substantiated scientific fact receiving government funding. Actually hard science with real technological potential doesn’t need government funding because of its industrial value, unless its an accelerated project for war such as the Manhattan Project or the Apollo Program, but theories excite the big government mentalities. Government funding and interference with education which lead to the degradation of the scientific method of separating theory from fact is the basic problem. The govt funded education establishment was easy to coop by the regressive left because of government bureaucracy and all the science funding projects ever since have in some way been used to feed the left. The global warming/climate change hoax is just the highest achievement of the government/science conspiracy.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago
Reply to  Craig

What do you mean by a “static atmophere model”?

Scientific models of the earth’s atmosphere incorporate numerous dynamic processes.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

giggle, sure they do, they are extrapolated form the fertile imaginations of leftzo’s magic world of unicorns and solar energy.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

Do a mathematical model of air flow over a small city on an ocean coast for three months, show your work, with explanations.

JCL154
JCL154
7 years ago

10 yrs ago UK court ruled algore movie had too many science errors to be called a science move, had to be called political movie. Since then we passed algores own deadline he set for the destruction of earth.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/earthnews/3310137/Al-Gores-nine-Inconvenient-Untruths.html

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Global warning/climate change, as conceived and promoted with the heavy political rhetoric, is not good science – just to begin with.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

Hi Mark,
Yes. It violates several essential rules of science. It is Void Ab Initio (invalid at the outset). The worst problem is the failure to disprove the null hypothesis. It’s a universal rule of science. The scientist says “I discovered a new phenomenon”. The Null hypothesis says “there is no phenomenon”.

Suppose I say, “The sky is blue”. Null hypothesis= “no it isn’t”. So I get a bunch of sky (i.e., air), put it in a room, and measure the color. Nothing. Bright lights, no light, still no color. So I get a satellite, and look down on the earth. An atmosphere 50,000 feet thick should do it. But still no color. Just changes in brightness and hue, depending upon the way sunlight impinges on the atmosphere. Null hypothesis = “glass is colorless, but a prism can bend light, and the light passing through can have many colors.”

I ignore the null hypothesis, and I say, “The vast global consensus is that the sky is blue. Everyone believes that.” The null hypothesis= “irrelevant argument”. So I give a talk about my findings, and someone stands up at the back of the room and says, “it’s not blue, but it looks blue because of light refraction. The atmosphere is transparent.” So I have him arrested.

After I die of old age, he gets out of jail and everyone says, “You’re right, DemocracyRules was unable to disprove the null hypothesis. The sky is not blue.”

And the great posthumous commemorative statuary of me that I dreamed about, never gets made.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Thanks DR for the fine, fair and well thought-out response – rare these days!

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

Mark:
My pleasure. And use the argument elsewhere if you like it. I don’t own any of those ideas.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

To your credit!

Al Gore invented the internet
Al Gore invented the internet
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

I am not sure about that. I am sure lots of useful stuff came from the space program, but was the computer one of them?
http://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/computers/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/inventions/who-invented-the-computer.htm

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago

NASA makes that claim based on the microcomputer, aka personal computer. The Altair was the first commercially available microcomputer. It was based on computers used in NASA equipment. It did almost nothing useful.
http://history-computer.com/ModernComputer/Personal/Altair.html

Apple was two guys in a garage, who hooked an Altair-type device up to a keyboard and a TV monitor. It wasn’t very useful either, but at least users could see what the computer was doing. Then accounting spreadsheet software was adapted for the Apple, and boom! Soon, every accountant had to have a microcomputer, because hand-typed spreadsheets are a huge pain to do.

In 1981, IBM launched their PC, that cost about $15,000. For certain jobs, it was totally worth it.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

The computer you are using right now came from the space program.

That just plain ain’t so: the computers we all use owe very little to the space program. If you heard NASA make that claim, it is propaganda at its ripest.

You might argue that DoD provided a considerable impetutus, and NASA has historically been funded by DoD, but even that is a stretch. Just for example, TCP/IP, if you know what that is and how central it is to connecting computers, was developed at Bell Labs.

We explore the solar system and beyond because humans are driven to learn and to explore…. well some of them are. The “spin off” benefits are modest and many of them would have been developed without NASA’s assistance.

letstalkcandidly
letstalkcandidly
7 years ago

“Investing in a moon mission is likely to divert funds from NASA’s Earth Sciences division which researches climate change.” This is just Trump replacing one spending madness with another.

NASA is filled with wild-eyed fanaticists; remember, they’ve been on the front lines of the CC Hoax from the beginning. Like all so-called scientists, they love to fulfill their hugely costly personal wet dreams, regardless how far-fetched, using endless resources of hard-working taxpayers. It is definitely a concern that Trump can be easily dazzled by these flimflam boys. Trump has great personal insecurities and a deep desire to be identified with publicly highly-regarded people and groups of people. Although Trump is a smart businessman, he is driven in some pretty strange directions by his overblown, fragile ego. He thinks he can deal with the smartest guys in the room but he is putty in their hands. They will manipulate him in ways that he won’t even know he is being handled.

Trump needs to leave this nonsense alone right now. He should stick with what he does best: the business of running a great enterprise – and nothing is greater than running the USA. He needs to concentrate, purely, on getting America’s fiscal house in order, not trying to re-start a program that sucked multi-billions out of the nation and accomplished little of any real importance to the average person or family.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago

Elections Mean Things

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago

Liatrus:
I’m sorry I cannot find evidence to support your assertions. There is abundant evidence that the synergistic effects of the invention of computers (Colossus computers at Bletchley Park), the transistor (Bell labs), the microcircuit, digital memory and many other other microcomputer components came from the defense industry of Britain, the US, and spin-off groups like Bell Labs and NASA.

The Altair 8800, invented by Ed Roberts, was the first commercially successful microcomputer, and it came from the collective defense industry. Especially NASA.
http://pc-history.org/altair.htm

David Foster
David Foster
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

Actually, the biggest government contributor to ‘the computer you are using right now’ was probably the ballistic missile program: while the first-generation guidance computers for Minuteman and Polaris used individual transistors, later models used integrated circuits—this helped the microelectronics industry to achieve scale, and, ultimately, reduced unit costs.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago
Reply to  David Foster

When Intel developed the 4004 (which developed into the 4040, which evolved into the mighty, for its day, 8080) the missile program was not its target market: adding machines for a Japanese customer were. Back in the early 1970’s, the world of DoD was rather skeptical of commercial off-the-shelf products. I doubt they even had a MIL spec for integrated circuits when the 4004 hit the market.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago

They had a spec for the gum in c- rations though.

DemocracyRules
DemocracyRules
7 years ago
Reply to  David Foster

David Foster:
Yes, I see your point. NASA claims that that “microcomputers” (aka, personal computers) came from NASA. You are right that integrated circuitry was essential to make PC’s practical in the real world. In my view, the entire ‘Space Race’ was actually a missile race. The Moon Shot was just a convenient way to keep the public interested, and keep the funding going.

So I see the missile race and the space race as very similar things.

cjae
cjae
7 years ago
Reply to  DemocracyRules

You mean Al Gores’ billionaire hoax program.

scheradoD
scherado
7 years ago

Holy Bleep Batman! Trump is going to reverse….

Bob Walker said that the incoming administration would “start by having a stretch goal of exploring the entire solar system by the end of the century.”

This is precisely what I’ve insisted with respect to the Evolution and God debates.

Yes, the entire solar system, particularly, the numerous moons of interest spinning around Jupiter.

With a total of 67 known moons — including four large moons known as the Galilean satellites — Jupiter almost qualifies as a solar system unto itself.

(src)

Craig
Craig
7 years ago
Reply to  scherado

Actually…if you consider the Earth itself with liquid H2O (1 in a billion), the correct distance from the sun (1 in a billion), just the right size moon for stable atmosphere (1 in a billion), the moon is exactly the correct size for coronal exploration of the sun during eclipses (1 in a billion), the magnetic field to stop cosmic rays, coronal mass ejections and other deadly space items (1 in a billion)…you know, after a while if people cannot see the grand plan, then there is no hope for their small lives.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  Craig

Understood, Craig. Unrelated – how do you explain the iridescent red and green colors of some hummingbirds without a molecule of pigment? How do you suppose (rhetorical question, of course)?

Ben
Ben
7 years ago

Many of the answers to our problems here on Earth will be found in space.

Dean
Dean
7 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Not the biggest problem, man will be the same wherever he goes.

Typical woman, no?
Typical woman, no?
7 years ago
Reply to  Dean

I always thought it was ironic that the very first thing man did when he set foot on the moon was to make a mistake in the “That’s one small step for man……” statement.
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I always like the joke about Neil Armstrong saying “Good Luck Mr. Gorsky!” as he stepped on the moon:
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When he was a kid, he was playing baseball with a friend in the backyard. His friend hit a fly ball which landed in the front of his neighbor’s bedroom windows. His neighbors were Mr. and Mrs. Gorsky.

As he leaned down to pick up the ball, young Armstrong heard Mrs. Gorsky shouting at Mr. Gorsky. “Sex! You want sex?! You’ll get sex when the kid next door walks on the moon!”

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago

You reflect the original erroneous reporting on the matter of Armstrong’s famous quote. Neil Armstrongs said, “That’s one small step for a man …”. The quote didn’t quite make sense without the article.

Dean
Dean
7 years ago

thanks

Ben
Ben
7 years ago
Reply to  Dean

In space we will be able to make pure medicines, alloys, technology that will advance us hundreds of years. A mutual interest to attain such technologies once everyone realizes the benefits should cross
divisions. Of course, there will always be those with mental illness, the unhappy, or those wanting to bugger someone up the backside, but the majority of us will set religious and sociological differences aside during this quest for enlightenment.

soundclick.com/Globalfirm
soundclick.com/Globalfirm
7 years ago

I don’t know about climate-change but what I know & what everybody who has a sound judgement knows is that nuclear waste-production is an ecological problem & should be banned.
Check out also the documentary ‘Addicted to plastic’ to see how plastic waste is being disposed into the ocean, making people infertile, torturing fishes & birds & destroying nature. 
A global government must prevent unecological regulations.

Space-programs can be life-saving & should not be jeopardized by the Muhammadism-conspiracy.

We also need to develop an ethical global imperialism to enact human rights & to overthrow the Muhammadism-conspiracy imperialism.

The world should be made an English-language protectorate & English should be optional official language globally.

Ban Islam, the Muhammadism-conspiracy & save lives & profound human rights worldwide.

Did you know: There’s slavery today of Africans in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania(25%,50%?of population), new north Sudan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Oman, Algeria, Lebanon, Qatar (?), Pakistan, UAE, Niger, Libya, Nigeria, Chad, Mali, Somalia & elsewhere inspired by sadist, racist slaver tyrant, inventor of slavery of Africans, mass-murderer, crucifier, genital mutilationist, clitodirectomist, child-rapist & pederast, theist psychopath who burned people alive for not praying & others to extort them, Muhammad who owned Africans as slaves & said that his deity turned Africans black, so their descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks (Abeed means African & slave in Arabic,) (Read more about sadist, racist slaver Muhammad at WikiIslam). & IslamicState stated they want to revive enslavement of Africans in America as I’ve read here.
Anti-African racists & Muhammadism Out of Africa!
Ban the Muhammadism-conspiracy & democracy, save profound human rights globally.
Help me to win the next election with my worldwide low-budget-campaign, for human rights & ecology, globally.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago

Yup.

GO DONALD GO! 2016
GO DONALD GO! 2016
7 years ago

Yes, space exploration is better than the climate hoax. However, I’d like to see some other things happen first.
Such as:
1) absolute border security
2) no more refugees plus deport all people within our borders (from anywhere) who are non-citizens
3) penalties so stiff that illegals self deport by the 10s of millions and no employer willing to hire them
4) stabilize Social Security and stop scaring people about it
5) eliminate the ACA, but particularly the individual mandate penalty
6) eliminate 95% of the IRS with a flat tax of some kind
7) either eliminate or else use the Dept of Education to our advantage and cut the crap in schools
8) no more civil asset forfeiture without conviction
9) stand your ground and castle doctrine laws for the entire country
10) law prohibiting taking away our rights by foreign entities such as treaties, the UN, world courts, etc, etc, etc.
11) get the deficits and debt under control
12) eliminate all “hate crimes” – treat everyone the same – no more PC BS
13) eliminate all EOs enacted by Obola
14) eliminate pardons
15) drain the swamp (fire every person hired by Obola)
16) law preventing bureaucrats from making rules/regulations/laws – all must come directly from Congress – no more rule by unelected bureaucrats
17) law requiring every state to verify citizenship of every voter
etc
etc
etc
etc

Good list! Let's giter done!
Good list! Let's giter done!
7 years ago

Add nationwide concealed carry reciprocity to the list.

billdeserthills
billdeserthills
7 years ago

Thing I don’t like about nationwide reciprocity is if the feds get the names of all the concealed carriers–

Good list! Let's giter done!
Good list! Let's giter done!
7 years ago

Yes, that could be a problem. Also Congress could adversely change the law for the entire nation with one bill I suppose. Too bad, but we will be fighting these battles forever I guess.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago

Reciprocity with the no carry permit required states!!!

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago

Well, this writer used to be an ardent enthusiast for the space program, as far back as Alan Shepard’s suborbital flight in 1961, narrated by “Uncle Walter” Cronkite.

It is going to take some time to flesh out the foolishness the crept into NASA for so many years, particularly the past eight. Mr. Trump had best not solve these problems with tax payer dollars alone. Private industry is chomping at the bit to get into a space program; private sector vigilance and expertise should work wholeheartedly to diminish, them eliminate, wasteful spending that has characterized the space agency so exploration can move forward with a creditable foundation in good science. AND ELIMINATE THE POLITICS.

Ben
Ben
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

You don’t know how right you are about the private sector wanting to get into this.
We could advance by leaps and bounds if they’d only release the ufo technology so many more private scientists could work on the understanding of it, and reverse engineer.

Mark Steiner
Mark Steiner
7 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Just believe here that government space programs lead to massive government waste. Mr. Trump’s matter with the cost of Air Force One is a recent example of pointing this out.

Ben
Ben
7 years ago
Reply to  Mark Steiner

“All” government projects go hand-in-hand with massive waste. It is an accepted fact, that for every dollar spent half is wasted–and that’s the good news. Many projects are a complete waste of money. I know, worked Intel. Ever wonder how one airplane can cost a billion dollars?

Trevor Fortune
Trevor Fortune
7 years ago

Just imagine NASA once again the home to rocket scientists instead of “climate scientist” and social justice warriors. Heads will be exploding all over the place as universities find their enrollments in “social sciences” (whatever the hell that is supposed to actually be) dry up as the gravy train is drained along with the swamp.

cjae
cjae
7 years ago
Reply to  Trevor Fortune

We’re going to making exploring space great again!!!!

Give peace and Donald a chance
Give peace and Donald a chance
7 years ago
Reply to  cjae

Donald did say he would take care of the vets. Hopefully he will do it.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago
Reply to  cjae

Jobs in American industry.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

Climate change is part of the evolution of the planet, it is not influenced to any degree by man, other than local conditions in large developed cities are slightly noticeable. The whole “global warming” scam was designed for the pseudo superstition of environment “alchemy” to sucker brainless politicians with more tax payer money than brains into subsidizing pseudo research fraud.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

it is not influenced to any degree by man, other than local conditions in large developed cities are slightly noticeable

And your qualifications for making such a grand scientific pronouncement are what, exactly?

I suspect you have scientific background whatsoever and are totally unqualified to render such a judgment. That is a quality That makes your opinions on a variety of subjects utterly without merit.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

You are entitled to being wrong, it is a freedom enjoyed in civilization. But do refrain from excessive speculation it makes you look like your are getting your comments by interpreting carrot cards. If I thought you were smart enough to know what my qualifications were, I would not mention them as if you are dumb enough to believe everything written on a sheepskin, you are about as smart as the sheep it came from. Baaaaaa h.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Those who believe in climate change are either subsidized to do studies to do more studies that will never come to a conclusion, or those too stupid to realize they’re trying to empty the ocean into a hole on the beach.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

Perhaps, Dorrie, you can explain to me how, other factors remaining constant, you can increase the percentage of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere (what, CO2 is up over a factor of three since the industrial revolution began, not to mention other contributors like methane?) while you simultaneously reduce albedo, and not expect the earth as a system to heat up.

I’ve posed that challenge to several “deniers”, and have never received a thoughtful response. Now in fact, other factors do not remain constant, but at very least humanity is changing the baseline, your insipid, unsubstantiated claim that I am INSANELY wrong not withstanding.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago

The answer is… who cares?
Make up all the questions and answers you want and it still won’t make any difference.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

NASA Says so, didn’t you see the PBS NOVA program on that?

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  David Mason

No.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

It was a few years ago. Blamed tornados on concrete jungles with all their cars, air conditioners, people and such causing freak air flows around cities.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  David Mason

To a very insignificant degree a large city will have a slight effect on air currents and temperature,

Heltau
Heltau
7 years ago

Well, in the next 4 years we will see if Mr. Trump can get away with all this supporting of the space race.
Just depends on how congress moves it behind to stall or move ahead with exploring more of our space around us.
Merry Christmass to all you out there reading and commenting about the various articles.

Dean
Dean
7 years ago

I would like to believe this but Ivanka has met with Gore in the past and today Gore met with Trump. That along with his statement to NY Times that he has an open mind on the issue. That leaves a lot of open room for all of the above but I would prefer an unabashed denier.

bannedquran20
bannedquran20
7 years ago

Climate hoax is making Al a rich man and yet, people are still taking the bait, hook, line and sinker!! Dumb clucks.

Peter Joffe
Peter Joffe
7 years ago

It is very difficult to say anything about climate change as satellite photos show the the ice caps have increased in size in the last two years but some glaciers have receded or even dissipated. On TV we see the same old images of melting ice caps so there is a problem there. But are we just going through a natural cycle of heat and then cold? Volcanic eruptions eject more CO2 gasses into the atmosphere than man has done in hundreds of years of burning fossil fuels. This has become so politicized that we don’t know what is going on other than some people like Al Gore are making lots of money out of it?? Trump please appoint a commission of inquiry to look at the facts and advise us of the scientific findings without political interference. The various ice ages and heat ages are well documented but none of them show any political interference that is now the norm. Are the Chinese involved? Perhaps but I doubt it. Are we going through natural cycles of drought and floods? I suspect that we are. Do emission taxes do anything to fix the ozone layer? Of course not as we have to switch off the volcanoes to make a serious difference. The time for truth has arrived with Republicans so lets get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth — SHMG.

conan_drum
conan_drum
7 years ago

‘a new American state’ Seriously? The USA can hardly manage the states it has on earth. I just heard a report that in many US states. Rapists have Parental Rights, ie. rights to be involved in the lives of the child they ‘fathered’ by raping the mother. Meaning they are involved also in the life of the victim of their rape. You have ‘legal’ system that grants a criminal the right to have unsupervised visits with a child they fathered by raping!

conan_drum
conan_drum
7 years ago

The people claiming GW is a hoax have no scientific qualifications whatsoever and that is including Trump. It is on eof his more stupid claims. The Chinese are one of the world’s leaders in renewable energy! Real Scientists are indeed sceptical by nature so can anybody seriously say that the world’s scientists can be convinced of GW en masse that it is a hoax. If a was any scientist could become famous by proving it was!

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago
Reply to  conan_drum

The global warming hoax is based solely on computer models with scientific research, data, and debate nowhere in the mix. After the media used computer models and opinion polls to predict a 50%-38% election advantage of Clinton over Trump, yeah, count me as skeptical.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  conan_drum

The Chinese know what sells to the gullible and poorly educated west, solar cells and unicorns, major exports from China.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  conan_drum

Anthony Watts / December 2, 2015

From The GWPF:

China will talk a good game at the UN Climate Conference in Paris, but won’t make any binding commitments, concludes The Truth About China, an important new report published today by the Global Warming Policy Foundation. “China’s Communist Party has as its highest priority its own self-preservation, and that self-preservation depends overwhelmingly on its ability to continue raising the standard of living of its citizens,” states economist Patricia Adams, the study’s author and the executive director of Toronto-based Probe International, an organization that has worked closely with Chinese NGOs for decades. —Global Warming Policy Foundation, 2 December 2015

More than 2,400 coal-fired power stations are under construction or being planned around the world, a study has revealed two weeks after Britain pledged to stop burning coal.

The new plants will emit 6.5 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide a year and undermine the efforts at the Paris climate conference to limit global warming to 2C. China is building 368 plants and planning a further 803, according to the study by four climate change research bodies, including Ecofys and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research. India is building 297 and planning 149. Rich countries are also planning new coal plants. The nuclear disaster at Fukushima has prompted Japan to turn back to coal, with 40 plants in the pipeline and five under construction. –Ben Webster, The Times, 2 December 2015

Drew the Infidel
Drew the Infidel
7 years ago

JFK put a man on the moon. Obhammud put a man in the ladies room.

Ben
Ben
7 years ago

Not a man, but a thing.

theoprinse
theoprinse
7 years ago

Thanks ms Geller for this article. Newt Gingrich Moon base for 13.000 people becoming a new American State is a great plan.Gingrich also wanted to look into NASA’s burocracy. President Trump can support the use of Nuclear Thermal Rockets although SpaceX Full Flow chemical engines are powerfull, used nuclear rockets can afterwards serve for electricity generation for decades. The Trump administration can support a Mars colony as well. Ultimately the Stephen Hawking project Breakthrough Starshot to Proxima also needs full support.

linda goudsmit
linda goudsmit
7 years ago

BRAVO!! Restarting our space program is a fantastic idea!! Funds should immediately be recommitted to REAL science and withdrawn from the political science of GW. The fact that the climate fluctuates is indisputable – it has ALWAYS fluctuated. The fact that we should stop polluting our environment is indisputable – only an idiot thinks it is a good idea to pollute. The debate over the issue began when liberals fused the two ideas and began promoting the ludicrous idea that man is responsible for climate change – it was never based on real science it is a whopper of a lie promoted by the UN and exploited by globalist (one-world government) politicians to transfer the wealth of industrialized nations to non-industrialized nations.

sovereigntyofone
sovereigntyofone
7 years ago

” Climate Change ” now that’s a joke, the climate changes all the time, it has changed since the birth of this world, so what else is new. No, the planet isn’t coming to an end like all these ” freaks ” are trying to tell us.
IF there was ” Global Warming/Climate Change ” Al Gore would be on a rampage to come up with stoppers to put in all the volcanoes on the planet. This is nothing more than another Ponzy Scheme of the Global elite to steal money from the already over taxes people of the world. China is one of the worst violators of the clean air act.
This old world will still be here spinning when the rest of us are dead and gone.
It’s time to go back to the moon ( not Mars) to see what is there. If we don’t colonize the moon, China will put military bases on the moon eventually.
Just my 2 cents worth.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago

Yes, climate changes “all the time”. The drivers for that change today, however, are different than ever they have been. Moreover, anthropogenic climate change will almost certainly have enormous adverse effects for homo sapiens. Only fools would, for ideological reasons, ignore human driven climate change.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

error: Only fools believe in anthropogenic origins of climate evolution.

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago
Reply to  Mahou Shoujo

They suffer from an ID-I0T error.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago
Reply to  David Mason

That is rather old, try something from this century.

Al Gore invented the internet
Al Gore invented the internet
7 years ago

LS,

I don’t think people ignore it. I think the science is questionable. One of the bigger reasons to question it to me is that ice ages have come and gone for a long, long, long time before humans impacted anything. Why is that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg
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And how DO you measure the exact level of the oceans to within a mm or 2? And how do you measure the temperature of the planet?
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AGW may be legit – I have an open mind but I’m not convinced – and I don’t see the point in wrecking the economy over it if in fact it’s not going to help much. AND we can only afford so many solar panels and windmills with their energy storage problems, etc. And if we wreck our economy but the entire developing world continues to spew CO2 what good did it do? Couple videos attached. I’m still trying to determine what I think about it. I did go see Al Gore make his case and it was convincing, but since then I have developed doubts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zOXmJ4jd-8

sovereigntyofone
sovereigntyofone
7 years ago

N.A.S.A.
Never A Straight Answer.
Just my 2 cents worth.

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago

Trump to restart space exploration rather than fund climate hoax

What wonderful news — investing in actual science and divesting from leftwing lunacy. Some of man’s greatest achievements and scientific discoveries came from space exploration.

I did not realize that Pamela considered climate change to be a “hoax”. She is full of nonsense: climate change, and its anthropogenic origins, are no hoax. I believe she has no scientific background and is totally incompetent to make such a judgment. The fact that she does says quite a bit about her thoughtfulness.

I’d like to know what “great achievement and scientific discoveries” have come from manned space program. You might say Hubble is an example, and it probably did require on-site human involvment. However, I don’t know that unmanned probes could not have discovered as much.

I grant she has “caught a wave” (and inspired one) in terms of the anti-jihad movement, and done so with a panache that has no peer. But I am quite disappointed that she has such a grossly inflated view of her own sphere of knowledge which, through the years, I’ve noticed is colorful but neither deep nor particularly insightful. Pamela has a quick, but rather limited, mind.

Mahou Shoujo
Mahou Shoujo
7 years ago

And you are as mentally nimble as mud. Do you have any real or imagined qualifications to judge other peoples qualifications? You sound like an affirmative action disciple who places political correctness above knowledge.

aebe
aebe
7 years ago

Have you never enjoyed a frosty glass of Tang , troll ?
Kindly demonstrate that man caused climate change is real , and that the attempts to do so by false means are not the entire of the hoax .

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago

It is a hoax!

Glen Benjamin
Glen Benjamin
7 years ago

Anything to do with global warming or climate is supposed to be the purview of NOAA not NASA? Paul prudish, NSS and others have said returning to moon to stay is logical plan. I agree as they also believe Mars is too expensive and dangerous at thus time and much can be learned from lunar base. Earth observatory, lunar R & D plus Martian test bed. Finally many agree the asteroid redirect is a waste at this time. Moon perfectly got to mine and study with it being so close.

GO FOR A LUNAR BASE NOW and watch as tech explodes in advancements.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago

I envy you Americans. You’ve got Trump who is doing everything right, and we’ve got Trudeau who is doing everything wrong.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

Dorrie, And Hillary Clinton and her jihadist aide weren’t despicable thugs? Please show us the facts about Bannon’s “thuggish background.” We already know from Wikileaks and other sources that Hillary and Abedin were malicious brutes.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

You do not need to be impolite when you reply to my emails. The American people elected Donald Trump and they are going to have to accept some of his political appointees. Just because you personally do not like Bannon does not mean he is an inappropriate choice for his position in the US government. You sound like a classic liberal projectionist who claims the world is collapsing before you give a man like Bannon an opportunity to show what he can accomplish.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

As a nice Canadian boy, I’ll say, “sorry eh,” re: my ignorance of the difference between a post and an email. Living in the Great White North does cut a person off from the politically correct things one should observe while on the Internet.

If you want to talk about debauchery and thuggery, read about the Clinton Administration from the viewpoint of a Secret Service agent charged with guarding Hillary for eight Bacchanalian years. In the agent’s words, The entire Clinton Administration was one big party, featuring Bill as a unbridled molester and violator of young women, and Hillary as an extortionist too busy counting “contributions” to the Clinton Foundation to give a damn about her husband’s philandering. (Although, it has been suggested that Hillary and her former jihadist aide may have traded dildos a few times when Bill was out boinking star struck girls.)

It would be difficult for either Trump or Bannon to trump the Clintons’ squalid, unseemly and oafish behavior while in the White House and while Hillary made her risible, unsuccessful attempt at becoming the first woman POTUS.

I’ll trade you Trudeau (the Castro lover) for Trump and Banon any time.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

I have a friend who believes Trump was sent to earth to save the world, so it is possible to compare Donald with Jesus.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

Thank you, Dorrie. I’m glad that you have a sense of humor. I do believe that the U.S. is the greatest country on the planet, and the entire world owes Americans a debt for rebuilding Europe after WWII as well as preventing communism from spreading throughout democratic countries. What I am saying is I do not want there to be animosity between a Canadian and an American because we disagree on a political matter. I have traveled extensively in the U.S., and I have always found Americans to be friendly, generous people.
I wish you all best,
David

David Mason
David Mason
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

He has no opinion!

Liatris Spicata
Liatris Spicata
7 years ago
Reply to  David Square

Not true, David. Trudeau has a much better hair do.

David Square
David Square
7 years ago

. That is the hilarious truth, blazing star. Trudeau also has a better body, judging by the number shirtless selfies he has taken.

Joe Bleaux
Joe Bleaux
7 years ago

I was 9 when we last left the moon. I figured that by the time I was in my 50s we would have moon and Mars colonies, at the very least, and probably be heading beyond Mars’ orbit. I’m 53 now and thanks to a complete dearth of national vision and leadership, we can’t even get a human into low earth orbit and have to pay the Russians (!!!) to give our folks a ride. Disgraceful.

Tatiana Covington
Tatiana Covington
7 years ago

Hail Trump!

Commieobamie
Commieobamie
7 years ago

Go TRUMP!!!!

aebe
aebe
7 years ago

On the Moon in ’69 and downhill from there . Could have had a welfare to work program that would have put us on the Moon by now , Using Sandbags !
Favorite author was Robert Heinlein , a man who should have seen us graduate from the Earth .

Validate your 2nd Amendment Rights ….. Carry

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