Evicted? Why not deported? What town, community, or village will be their next target?
The quote of the story comes from the landlord, “ “[The] events of recent days have focused our collective attention on the complexities of living in a culturally diverse society. ”
Raping, urinating on and in the mouth of a 5 year old special needs girl is “cultural diversity.”
“Report: Muslim Migrant Families Evicted After Their Children Sexually Assaulted 5-Year-Old Idaho Girl,” Katie McHugh, Breitbart, June 27, 2016:
The Muslim Iraqi and Sudanese migrant families whose male children stripped a white, five-year-old Idaho girl naked, sexually assaulted her, and urinated in her mouth while filming their attack have been evicted from their apartment complex, according to the Idaho Statesman.
The landlord mentioned the defiling of the innocent child and filming it to enjoy watching her suffer again and again as one of the “complexities of living in a culturally diverse society.”
“With the police investigation now largely complete, acting in our capacity as property managers, we have served the legally required notifications to terminate the tenancy of those households who the police have identified as responsible for the criminal acts,” the landlord wrote to the tenants of the apartments where the barbaric crime took place. “[The] events of recent days have focused our collective attention on the complexities of living in a culturally diverse society. When management was first notified in broad terms of the truly horrific events of earlier this month, we immediately offered our full support and cooperation to local law enforcement.”
The Iraqi and Sudanese sexual predators, said to be aged seven, 10, and 14, have reportedly been confined to a detention center. Nearly every news outlet covering the story has sneered at local residents aghast at the rape for mistakenly attributing the child rape to Syrian refugees, instead of Iraqi and Sudanese refugees. Why this nitpick is important when migrants savaged an innocent little American girl is never explained. Nor is it explained why Americans should even begin to tolerate, let alone subsidize migrants who come with a child rape risk in their communities.
Muslim men typically attack and rape women in a manner that would please Hollywood horror movies glorifying torture and human suffering. Many Muslims enjoy destroying — not “just” harming, but physically and psychologically destroying — a non-Muslim human being. The Idaho victim endured a torment similar to an Australian nurse who made the mistake of falling asleep in a car in a Western country where Muslims were permitted to reside.
I was pulled out of the car and thrown to the ground. There were six of them and they all started kicking me. They were speaking Arabic… Three of them raped me on the footpath. They spread-eagled me. A fourth guy sodomized me. He put me in a doggy position and put a knife to my throat.
He started to cut me. He was cutting through the scalene [neck] muscle. I knew I was going to die… I was in incredible pain. I could hardly breathe. I was swallowing blood.
Then I heard shouting in Arabic. One of the guys who had not raped me knocked the knife from the guy’s hand. He said in English, ‘This is f***ed.’ The guy who had the knife, this mongrel, big, bearded, he wrenched my jaw open, pulled my head back, and stuck his hands down my throat. I had no top teeth left. They had been kicked out.
They started urinating in my mouth. They were all laughing. One of my eyes was closed with blood. Then they just took turns kicking me. They spat on me and left.
Interestingly, Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan has repeatedly claimed that any restrictions on Muslim migration is “not our values,” despite sending his own children to a Catholic school that excludes Muslims.
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Please release names of the vermin and their families so that other children will not be violated and defiled by these animals. I know that the “department of justice” is providing cover for these scum and also threatening anyone who dares to speak an ill word about muslim criminal illegal aliens. all we ask is that the rule of law be followed and that justice is served according to the laws of idaho and the united states of america.
There are cases in which college boys who got drunk and ‘mooned’ somebody are literally labeled sexual predators FOR LIFE. These scum probably won’t even have to report to local police and if there is ever trouble they can ‘vanish’ into the vastness of a free society.
All protected by the feds
United states citizens need to start taking the law back into our hands I guess. I can promise you if these scum did this to my daughter I would kill them all with no mercy
In Texas if you catch someone doing this, it is completely legal to kill them. Long live the Republic of Texas! TexaSecession!!
TEXIT !!!!!!!
AMEN!! TEXIT!! TexaSecession!!
I haven’t heard this in a while, gave me goosebumps and I’m watching again whilst I type. Absolutely outstanding!! God blessed Texas and God bless you!!
” What ever makes you happy, tickles me plumb to death” quote: Mrs. Christianberry Yancy, Texas
I wish we had more ladies like her, God rest her soul. But I see you carry the quote, so hope lives.
Did you know her?
I did not, but from the little I found to read about her, she sounded like a ray of light.
There is something to read about her.??? Who knew?
That’s a Texas sized upvote for you!
real men protect girls and women
Yes ma’am, and anyone that can’t, for whatever reason, physical or mental, stand up for themselves. Romans 15:1, “Now we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not just please ourselves.”-NASB
If we get charged with murder we have to insist on a jury of our peers, people who defend our country like we do.
they are in “protective custody “.
Muslim scum
Evicted? How about DEPORTED – after serving JAIL TIME!
WTF????
.
Deported with their families. Show no mercy.
I’m not a Trump fan, but maybe he wasn’t so wrong when he said kill them (I believe he was referring to ISIS fighters at the time) AND their families.
No jail time — costs too much — there are time honored traditional and very effective ways to deal with rapists
don’t they have lots of nice bears in the area?
Yes their are, but bears leave traces of what they eat…..now pigs eat every little bit, but i do not think there are many wild pigs running around like their is down in our southern states. i guess the bears will have to do.
Bears are natures scavengers but even they draw the line at eating filth.
EXACTLY!! What has happened to the American People’s REPRESENTATION by our GOVERNMENT??? KENYA DIG IT?
The boys’ FATHER gave them a HIGH FIVE. I want these people GONE!
I racked my brains for a minute or so, and asked whether I have EVER in the near 40 years of my life, whether I have read or heard of a similar sets of rapes (as above) perpetrated by a group of non Muslims? Answer – NEVER.
Nor have I and I’m kicking up around 40 myself. I was hoping to see you here, it’s a little off topic, but I watched Nigel Farage on Neil Cavuto today and I must say, Bravo!! His character and demeanor are that of a true, free Englishman. It was gratifying beyond words to see him slap down these propaganda notions of uncertainty, security, all the lame roll outs that the globalists use to cow the people. I am proud of the special relationship our great countries share.
i’m 60, and i agree, they are animals. where did these little animals learn this barbarity? if i was the father, grandfather, uncle, brother, or whatever of that little girl, there would a few less muslim animals in idaho today, and those that remained would clearly understand that they were next if they stayed
it is ingrained into their culture and actually demanded in their religion, I’ve read a large amount of the Quran in an effort to understand them and it literally states that infidels should be raped, tortured and murdered, and that their fields should be burned and animals slaughtered etc etc. These people want us all dead, there are NO GOOD MUSLIMS it is a lie perpetrated by the left, If someone truly does not believe in doing these things then they are NOT MUSLIM as it is CORE to their religion
This is true and ever so depressing.
ALL islamo moHOGmad demons NEED a bullet INGRAINED into their tiny brain.
Re ” their religion”?! Islam is not a religion! islam Is a political system wrapped around a pedophile’s plagiarized materials from several sources and from imagination during drunken stupor. Goals of the islamofascist movement, which encompasses all mullahs, al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and many others, is to promote a political ideology that seeks to subjugate all the world’s peoples, by physical force, under the supreme governing authority of islamofascist law, in every area of life and thought. The islamofascist goal is to enforce submission in body and mind—on pain of death. When considering taqiyya and kitman, one realizes that there is only one outcome between islam and infidels and that is a fight to death.
ITS A TOOL FOR THE NWO… TO USE THESE PEOPLE AS THEIR WEAPON.. SUICIDE VEST ANYONE?? IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT THE UN IS WHAT THEY WANT TO REFER TO AS “THE” GLOBAL GOVERNMENT!! BALONEY!! ITS A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS!!
And full of terrorist Arab countries that do nothing to stop the slaughter of non muslims in their countries and even moderates, Shias, yazidis, everyone knows this and that is why I voted for brexit and amen God answered and we won because of prophesy of the corrupt EU supported by Islamic terrorist loving UN who only punish non muslim atrocities not muslims and their rape loving criminals who should be castrated in the very least to stop this rape wave, look at how turkey is increasingly suffering attacks, yet erdogan’s buys his oil from Isis, commits genocide of the Kurds in southern turkey knowing the refugee crisis takes the heat of the true muslim hitler who wants the annialation of Christians, Kurds or anyone non Sunni non muslim to achieve the next world war to take over the world with Islam , just Putin in his way and he knows it! But look how he’s normalising relations with Russia and Israel because he knows either one could wipe him out!
And our leaders are cow towing to this invasion and turning a blind eye to what is really going down here Newt was right on tonight when he said the powers to be are lying to the American people , we need Newt Gingrich and people like him in our government people with GUTS AND BRAINS that will face facts , and tell the truth. !
Our “leaders” are not cowtowing, they have created this “invasion” to foment civil unrest WORLD WIDE, so they can come in and rescue all of us with the NWO UN MILITARY… Alinsky method: Create the Problem and then come to the “RESCUE with a solution that takes away all SOVEREIGNTY !
Very well could be you have nailed it the question is when will we get the back bone in this country to completely crush it because that what must be done , and eliminate it forever ?
Obama is not just cow towing, the muslime is importing them to do this carnage as fast as he can. HiLIARy is right behind him. Wonder what she will do when she is raped by one of these muslimes
Miss pants suit even a Muslime has better taste than that
Enjoy it?
islam is a totalitarian way of life with a religious component.
Many Muslims don’t look at Islam this way. They see it at a religion. They don’t subscribe to the rape and beheading and all that is going on with the JV TEAM Obamastan and his buddies have cobbled together to create “International TERROR” Ewwwww!! We could wipe them out in a NY TRUMP SECOND!
Re “Many Muslims don’t look at Islam this way”; The key
is “Many muslims”. If one is a muslim, one follows the Koran. If one does not follow the Koran, “don’t look at Islam this way”, then that person is an idolater infidel and is put to death by horrible means. That is why muslims have been killing each other for about 2000 years.
They push their ideology which is based strictly upon the writings of the Quran Muslim, and Islam are one and the same Islam being THE exact wording of their evil book.
their religion?! Islam is not a religion! islam Is a political system wrapped around a pedophile’s plagiarized materials from several sources and from imagination during drunken stupor. Goals of the islamofascist movement, which encompasses all mullahs, al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and many others, is to promote a political ideology that seeks to subjugate all the world’s peoples, by physical force, under the supreme governing authority of islamofascist law, in every area of life and thought. The islamofascist goal is to enforce submission in body and mind—on pain of death. When considering taqiyya and kitman, one realizes that there is only one outcome between islam and infidels and that is a fight to death.
Here’s a good article-
http://newenglishreview.org/Richard_Hobbs_/Why_Islam_is_a_Cult/
Excellent article. The brainwashing is a birth to death onslaught.
It is CREATED to cause civil unrest worldwide so they can install Martial Law and bring in the UN as the Global policing force.
I have known a few muslims by acquaintance over the years and they were nothing but normal people who lived their lives and bowed on rugs. One did ask me if I could be his second wife.. but he asked!!
Then he wasn’t by definition a practicing muslim. in the same way that a vegan eating a cheeseburger couldn’t exactly be called a vegan eh?
If he didnt rape you then he probably just claims to be muslim but doesnt really read the book dear.
I have a difficult time calling them “animals” since I consider animals to be of nobler character than these evil humans, not to mention the fact that animals can never be held morally culpable on any level.
I use vipers, never know when they will bite, but bite they will.
I take animals over muslims any day. as far as referring to them :poop: would be most fitting.
Not really because “poop” is useful as fertilizer while Slimer’s never will be useful, except for when they are killing each other and not hurting humans or baby animals.
They contaminate the very earth they because the Slime Cult rules state that they must be buried, a$$ up, for their fellow Slimers posing as grave robbers and night crawlers sexual pleasure.
Proof of ground being permanently contaminated and unsuitable for growth is most likely the reason theses sand naggers are being imported by Barry at such a pace with little or no vetting or perhaps obama immigration to america is considered punishment or the newest parole system they have in place in Slime Land .
1 answer-every year the father is to kill a goat or bigger animal in his back yard or wherever & the kids must watch. Every boy knows he Must do this when hes older. I think they practice on animals. Little boys Love to throw rocks at cats, dogs.
What they do to the goat before they kill it is another perverted tale of islam.
“Yet each man kills the thing he loves,
By each let this be heard,
Some do it with a bitter look,
Some with a flattering word,
The coward does it with a kiss,
The brave man with a sword!
……………………..
― Oscar Wilde
That has an aura of truth about it. In may cases, it is “involuntary love slaughter”.
Well said.
they learned it from Mhmd, the 7th century psychopath who declared himself the Perfect Man for all to emulate, just as these vipers have mimicked.
and to fellow muslims as well….
They’re starting young to emulate their pedophile prophet and live up to being good islamists.
This is a horror movie coming true right under our nose these are not animals they are demons , being allowed to get away with this horror in our country , there should be open season on them as they have declared on us , this is war its time to be hard .and show no mercy .
amen brother
They like many other muslim children are being taught that infidels are a lower life forms to be hated.
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-muslim-children-taught-hate
Really? So where were you as recently as New Years Eve when they were showing film of all the attacks at the train stations in Cologne and elsewhere?
I apologize. I now see you wrote “NON” Muslims. My error.
Black on white gang rapes are similar. Motivated by an intense hatred of the victim. Google “The Knoxville Horror” for a example., Racially motivated black on white crime is epidemic compared to the reverse. But like Muslim on infidel rape it is spun away, minimized or even censored by The Corrupt Liberal Media.
Go to white college fraternities and you will see similar gang rapes. Whites are not morally better, just more blind to the faults of their own
Yeah, like the gang rape of that black woman by the Duke Lacrosse Team? And the rare white gang rapes that are not hoaxes are not interracial.
Try to keep up.
Islamists are a cult of savages thrown into the 21st century. At first glance, other than their crazy women dressing as mailboxes, they seem like people but they are inbred, brainwashed, illiterate supremacists for the most part who will try to kill us and take our country to prove their peacefulness.
Never heard of gang-rapes in gun-controlled New York City, LA, People’s Republic of New Jersey etc. You obviously do not read much
no, don’t put them in prison, they’ll get out. put them underground to push daisies.
Prison costs too much
As always a woman holding a “refugees welcome” sign.
I don’t get your point, if there is one. Are you some sort of misogynist?
Plenty of men are equally naive or idealistic, or whatever word you choose along those lines.
Are you still here” You are all talk and no action.
the colonists knew that there is “tillage” for them to access at will. These women do not know how islam treats women, when they find out, they will not admit to it.
Arf arf.
You will have to change your lovely avatar.
Since I quit countin` sheeples and employed your
avatar I now have to count hundreds.
Help me get some sleep.
Ok, now you should only have to count half as many.
The savages think this ole country is 3rd world. Just like obama and jarrett’s mentalities. Deport the whole f@#$%^g lot.
And any country that has their animals shipped back to them should either receive a bill for every cent incurred by their trash, or ‘deport tariffs’ on any goods we import from them. Since most of the countries these savages come from produce absolutely nothing but filth, well, we’ll figure something out. Send them back and make them pay.
It’s always the ugly liberal woman holding the stupid sign.
Don’t they know muslims are not supposed to have relations with dogs? Goats and sheep. ok, not dogs. Arf.
Do a search on Muslim bestiality. There are clear rules and specific guidelines on how and when to properly have sex with various animals including requirements to sell the goat to the next village when a Muslim male has finished raping it. Muslim women aren’t ignored because they are told the right way to have sex with swine. A cult obsessed with sex and violence.
That is right, islam is a perverts rationalization of the breaking of each of the ten commandments, or equivalent, which are found in ever religion except islam.
PURE EVIL
Great, where will they end up next.
They could have been Obomba’s sons
Maybe they are.
Wish it was his dad.
THEY ARE!
How about a pillory in front of city hall with city council taking turns getting some “cultural diversity” by spending a day in it. How stupid can a municipal politician get? Why donkey dance around the issue, this was an inhuman disgusting rape, not an example of cultural diversity. The American education system needs a lot of work.
Interestingly, Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan has repeatedly claimed that any restrictions on Muslim migration is “not our values,” despite sending his own children to a Catholic school that excludes Muslims. Typical do gooder “do as I say, not as I do” attitude. Any school that excludes muslims is on the right track.
Just imagine [ if possible ] the colossal GALL of Two-faced Ryan… saying it is ok for this to happen to the rest of our children, when his, are functionally exempt from muslim atrocities…
He better double-check, and make sure his are not subject to well-documented catholic-related sexual buggering of children…
All things considered, problems with Catholic clergy sexual misconduct, is trivial compared to the major issue of islamic sexual abuse of children, in compliance with the qur’an. Catholics know it is wrong, muslims are told through the qur’an that it is their religious privilege to molest children.
That’s just it, all those in favor of it ARE WEALTHY.
Evicted? Oh, the horror. Oh the humanity. Let them live w/the 0mahdi in the White Mosque — there’s plenty of spare guest bedrooms there. Or maybe w/Lurch. Or maybe with Loretta Lynch. Or McCain. Or Holder. Surely someone in the District of Criminals is willing to take in these poor, persecuted muslum apes.
When crimes like these go down in an apartment complex there’s commonly a mass exodus of decent tenants — because for some reason protecting one’s family and self is a higher priority than either multiculturalism or being politically correct.
Since the government is protecting child rapists, it is time for the ordinary citizens of the United States to protect themselves from Islamic thugs and from the Obama regime thugs. By whatever means necessary.
I mean … what are we suppose to do? Offer our women and children for rape and murder with a smile?
Eff that!
Fight till Islam and leftism is no more!
Wait a moment .. so if you are Islamic, you can rape without being charged with a crime?
This cannot be allowed! Obama’s goons have to be destroyed to the last person!
If a girl is raped, islam finds her at fault, it is always the females fault. Muslim men have no brains or self control, they are not considered responsible for their actions.
Quran
Quran (2:282) – Establishes that a woman’s testimony is worth only half that of a man’s in court (there is no “he said/she said” gridlock in Islam).
Quran (24:4) – “And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them…” Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad’s favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since if there are not four male witnesses, the rape “did not occur”.
Quran (24:13) – “Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah.”
Quran (2:223) – “Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will…” There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
Hadith and Sira
Bukhari (5:59:462) – The background for the Quranic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
Notes
Rape of Muslim women is against Islamic law – although the rape of non-Muslim women is not, if they are ‘captured in battle’ or bought as slaves. Even the rape of a Muslim woman is almost impossible to prove under strict Islamic law (Sharia). If the man claims that the act was consensual sex, there is very little that the woman can do to refute this. Islam places the burden of avoiding sexual encounters of any sort on the woman.
A recent fatwa from a mainstream Islamic site echoes this rule and even chides a victim of incest for complaining when she has no “evidence”:
However, it is not permissible to accuse the father of rape without evidence. Indeed, the Sharee’ah put some special conditions for proving Zina (fornication or adultery) that are not required in case of other crimes. The crime of Zina is not confirmed except if the fornicator admits it, or with the testimony of four trustworthy men, while the testimony of women is not accepted.
Hence, the statement of this girl or the statement of her mother in itself does not Islamically prove anything against the father, especially that the latter denies it.
Therefore, if this daughter has no evidence to prove that her accusations are true, she should not have claimed that she was raped by her father and she should not have taken him to the court. (IslamWeb.net, Image)
Since it is incredibly unlikely that a child molester will violate his victim in front of “four trustworthy men”, Islamic law amounts to a free pass for sexual predators.
Islamic law rejects forensic evidence (such as DNA) in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape and the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman’s testimony then becomes a “confession” of adultery. She can be stoned, even though the male is unpunished, since he never admitted to a sexual act.
Some clerics blame rape on the woman. Australian Sheik Feiz recently said a rape victim “has no one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world… to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature.” Even his successor, who was brought in to mitigate the backlash, compared unveiled women to “sweet pastries” tempting hungry men.
One of the world’s most respected Sunni scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, recently told an audience on his al-Jazeera television show that “To be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct.”
Dr. Abd al-Aziz Fawazan al-Fawzan, a professor of Islamic law said that “If a woman gets raped walking in public alone, then she, herself is at fault. She is only seducing men by her presence. She should have stayed at home like a Muslim woman.”
This was echoed by the imam of a Salafist mosque in Cologne, Germany in the wake of the shocking sex abuse rampage by recently arrived Muslims on New Year’s Eve in 2015. He explained that “the events” (which included rape) “were the girls’ own fault because they were half-naked and wearing perfume.”
When it came to light in 2016 that a 13-year-old British girl had been abused by a dozen Pakistani rapists, certain members of the Muslim community said they believed the victim “played her part.”
In 2013, Syria’s chief Mufti, Sheikh Abd al-Rahman Ali al-Dala, issued a statement that gives soldiers religious permission to rape the women they capture.
There can be also no such thing as rape in a Muslim marriage, even if the husband has to hit the wife in order to bring about her submission. Another recent fatwa reminds a woman, she “does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her.” (Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597).
How silly for me to forget all you reported!
Thank you for this very “truth bomb” reminder.
The issues of islamic subhuman violence must be kept in front of the public who has been conditioned to pre digested regurgitated sound bits on the lame stream media news.
Yes!!!!
People are often concerned and sincere, but have very short memories.
Appears so!! We have had MULTIPLE MASS MURDERS by MUSLIMS since Obama began this quest to flood our country with illegal aliens, and each time they come out and SWEAR THEIR ALLEGIANCE TO THE MUSLIM POPULATION!! WHAT DOES THAT SAY MY FELLOW AMERICANS???
Time for all good Americans to come to the defense of America … Lets meet by the tens of thousands and put the traitors in prison for getting thousands diliberately raped and murdered around the world.
Allowing city managers, police, a speaker of the house like Ryan to remain in government is totally contrary to American values. This crime should be punished by the death penalty IMHO.
No — he is being wimped down by the eff’n Manafort
I’m 73 and when I went to university for the first time (1960) a questionnaire was circulated for some sort of survey or rape. We were aghast that 15% of first-year students had been raped by a father, uncle, of family member, but not one of them had been raped by more than one person or been beaten, kicked or urinated on … and we were crushed at the horror. This is in altogether another dimension.
islam brings a whole new meaning to rape, violence and any number of other cultural enrichments that muslim crime is described as.
I like the ‘cultural enrichment’ (as a sensitive, inclusive political term) but its practical applications are horrific, and neither cultural nor enriching.
When dealing with politicians, the bigger the lie, the more adjectives are used to spin it. democrats are “huge” when it comes to lying.
Oh yes. Just change the word: once I was camping with all the children and grandchildren and that first evening, a warthog came close to our fire, its tusks gleaming in the flickering firelight. The grandchildren all stood closer to their parents, until oldest son said, ‘It’s (name of the warthog in, I think, ‘The lion king’). All the grandchildren relaxed. This was something they knew and were comfortable with. So abortion becomes ‘the woman’s choice’ and all is well. Nobody actually thinks it’s the killing of pre-born babies.
The vacuous of the population are always looking for some way to whitewash some of the less pleasant aspects of life. Post birth abortions sounds better than murder, wonder when that will catch on?
Probably real soon: i know of one Italian dr who has raised the possibility. A dr Francesca Something or dr Something Francesca. Her argument was that a woman might have a baby and then have reasons (financial, etc.) to rethink her decision …
Yes, do lets murder all children who are an economic inconvenience. It is amazing how totally mentally derailed some of what one would think are intelligent people can get.
Sounds like Shakespeare and the lawyers … but in truth, the horror of what people see as logical argument frightens me.
What amazes me is that we in Canada have moved fro a
justice system” to a legal industry, where everything, including criminal charges are weighed on a cost, price, profit, loss scale.
I was even more shocked when I received Faith Goldy y’t’day (‘The Rebel’) about what’s transpiring in Canadian schools. More multi-culti nonsense for young Canadian girls to put up with. And in this case I don’t even see the profit, only the cost, loss, price.
The Canadian education system is being re-written by consultants and contractors with second agendas. They get paid enough to give generous lick backs to departments of education to machinate society into a clueless glock of drones. Fortunately they’re are enough people who think, as as to get around much of it.
And invaded by bearded 20-year-old migrants (also reported Pamela Geller late y’t’day).
Canada,at one time valued immigrants, as they valued the opportunities that Canada gave them. Today, immigrant and welfare bum are fully interchangeable.
These newcomers, however, are too old to attend classes with 13-14-year-old Canadian girls. It seems to be more than a welfare thing.
They are expected to go to school in exchange for getting colonist welfare bum allowance. Let the chips fall where they may. Some bureaucrat is content with knowing they have done their job well.
May he/she never have another night of peaceful sleep.
Federal civil servants sleep well, as the primary qualification for the job is speaking french, preferably better than english. What the job entails, is irrelevant as bilingualism is the most important thing to the liberal government.
You’re right. When the 2 sets of our children who wanted to emigrate, thought of Canada, they were first of all asked if they could speak French. But I still hope the civil servant who made this particular decision, will never again sleep an uninterrupted night’s sleep.
Being bilingual gets extra points on the application form. My french is atrocious, it was obligatory in high school, I almost ever used any of it after that, despite living in an area with several french settlements all around it, french is used less every year.
However, given the 20-year-old bearded men in the same classes as young Canadian girls, I’m glad they do not all speak French. We have only 1 granddaughter, a petite blonde, this year in her final year at school (who does speak French). NZ is much safer at the moment.
Canada was safe, it has a liberal government that places liberal dogma, progressive politically correct multiculturalism above the safety and well being of Canadians. It is always good to have a second language or two, it allows one to “think in different terms” which is the key to the knowledge of the universe.
Oh yes, the more languages one can read , the richer a person one is. (I deliberately wrote ‘read’ because I can read both Dutch and Flemish, but cannot actually speak either.)
Went to school with family who spoke Flemish, never could figure out anything about it. My Dutch friends sound like chainsaws when they speak, apparently it is not allowed to speak at less than 800 wpm in Dutch?
The Dutch do speak very fast, but if I concentrate I follow. Flemish is easier, but I read both. Even Danish captions to photographs are intelligible.
There is much good that can come from being at least conversant in at lest one other language. Over here, english has crept into everything, even the local dialect of french has a lot english and cree indian in it.
Sounds as if you’re going back to one language over there, namely English, spiced with French and herbed with Cree. Should be very expressive.
That is one thing about french, is that one can describe exactly the situation and all ramifications implicated with it. English, a bit all inclusive, cree, even less so.
It sounds very meticulous. All I remember (but this is from a non-French speaker) is the saying that all likenesses between the spelling and the pronunciation of French are mere coincidences.
Actually I find english to be difficult in that pronunciation and spelling, to my way of thinking are often out of synchronization.
Thinking of words like brougham and Cholmondeley and Wriothesly?
Those would be examples. but words that the spell checker gets hung up on like to, too two, check, cheque, lead, read, read, basic every day stuff.
Here’s one you probably have seen innumerable times.
Only very good minds can read this. This is weird, but interesting!
7H15 M3554G3 53RV35 7O PR0V3 H0W 0UR M1ND5 C4N D0 4M4Z1NG 7H1NG5!
1MPR3551V3 7H1NG5! 1N 7H3 B3G1NN1NG 17 WA5 H4RD BU7 N0W, 0N 7H15 LIN3
Y0UR M1ND 1S R34D1NG 17 4U70M471C4LLY W17H 0U7 3V3N 7H1NK1NG 4B0U7 17,
B3 PROUD! 0NLY C3R741N P30PL3 C4N R3AD 7H15. PL3453 F0RW4RD 1F U C4N R34D 7H15.
If you can read this, you have a strange mind, too. Only 55 people out of 100 can.
I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno’t mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! If you can raed this forwrad it
In defence of the spell checker, it cannot read. Awful to be able to spell but not read! (Who’d want to be a machine?) I’ve seen your examples before and I don’t know if we’re very special. I don’t think I move in very exalted circles, but I’ve only once come across a person who couldn’t read the first example and this young man could barely read at all. Personally I like the second example, the one where digits fulfill a letter function. Youngest grandson says ‘It’s cool’. (Hope he doesn’t try it at school.)
Same here, so far I haven’t met anyone who can’t read them. Suspect they are those “pseudo” intelligence tests designed to give the illusion of uniqueness to those taking them. Actually they look very much like first drafts of anything I write.
And like mine … except for the dots!
Apparently I am the “dottier” of the two of us. Success.
I like putting dots in. They help me pretend that I actually have a second and third worthwhile thought after the reader has read the first one.
While on trivial subjects, have you seen this?
This is an unusual paragraph. I’m curious as to just how quickly you can find out what is so unusual about it. It looks so ordinary and plain that you would think nothing was wrong with it. In fact, nothing is wrong with it! It is highly unusual though. Study it and think about it, but you still may not find anything odd. But if you work at it a bit, you might find out. Try to do so without any coaching.
Hey, took a while: no E’s! Is there anything else I should have seen? Even counted letters per line …
That is it, very few people get that one very fast.
Thanks, just wondered if perhaps I should have seen something else: you know, discover one thing and be so smug and satisfied that the deeper one totally escapes one’s notice.
Nope, thats all, it is interesting, never really considered a paragraph without a specified letter.
Wonder if one can do the same sort of thing, say, skipping the a?
Might be worth a try someday when there isn’t a lot of world problems to solve.
OK, but by that time we may both be dead.
One can only do what one can with what one has.
And there’s nothing to stop us doing puzzles (or puzzling things) when we reach eternity. Just think we shall know all, just as we are known. All should include all the languages of the world too (not as an aim, merely as an extra).
That is going to complicate sudoku and crossword puzzles, maybe I will finally be able to do them.
We might just be (or might have become). Able, I mean. I cannot do sudoku, mainly, I think, because numbers are not my first interest. Words are, so I enjoy crossword puzzles, but some of the cryptics go far beyond my ability.
Sudoku is mindless numbers for the sake of doing something when trying to rationalize not doing anything useful. At one time I liked crosswords, I even wrote a few for a newsletter for a coven of technicians, if you ever want some real mental gymnastics, write an original crossword puzzle. The issue I have with todays crosswords they often refer to celebrities or contemporary “slang” which I am totally unfamiliar with. So, I have stopped doing them.
I can’t do ‘slang’ (also, I don’t often read Mr Peterson’s ‘The Message’ translation of the Bible, for being slang, it’s already badly dated), or ‘stars’ (screen, sport, etc.). But I like cryptic crosswords although I cannot guarantee always solving them. Beloved and I used to, when the local newspaper printed the wrong grid, to solve the cryptic and correct the grid. We made and solved acrostics too. Numbers, however, are not as interesting as words. Son, who majored in Mathematics and Computer Science thinks numbers are more interesting than words … Beloved quoted, ‘Each to his own madness’: a good summing up.
Like the old guy said “It doesn’t take all kinds, we just have them” Diversity in a positive way is absolutly delightful. That is what one finds on these forums, lots of fun, so long as one does not take it too seriously.
On the other hand, I tend to take you seriously, because I think we are doing something important. By means of laughter, re-inventing the wheel, not doing Sudoku, and talking about God, we are not only talking about our lives but about how we should be living them. There’s the gratitude!
Thank you, I have a very high opinion of your opinions. The whole idea, to quote one of the most disagreeable bosses I ever had, is “That if we are not having fun, we are doing it wrong” HIs idea of fun was a bit eccentric, but he had the right idea. There is no point in being too serious, we aren’t getting off this planet alive, so might as well prepare for the trip, enjoy what’s available when it is.
We are indeed having fun, a quiet and pleasurable kind of fun so we must be doing it right. I tend to be serious by nature (and we’re not going off planet, anyway, ever, as the new heaven and the new earth are coming down here), so I love the fun you offer. Thank you!
Whether we go there or heaven comes here, it’s all good. Actually I tend to be a bit too serious in real life, if you can call my existence living, which whatever it is, I like it. In writing, the delay and ability to refer back tend to add dimensions that make for much more interesting conversations. It also tends to make me get to the point instead of “O look, a squirrel” being distracted, or using distractions to buy time. You and a couple of others are definitely persuading me to think a lot more than I am accustomed to. The pleasure is all mine, I will happily share.
Well … at 73 … I’ve noticably slowed down … but what happens in one’s heart and mind is miles beyond merely existing. Agreed, writing is a very interesting way of conversing, because one thinks as the words ‘unscroll’ on the screen and has time for 2nd and even 3rd thoughts. And squirrels are beautiful!
Beloved said all this about men thinking logically and women being grasshopperminded is nonsense anyway. True that men tend to think linearly, as in A to B, and women may go A C D E to B, but they (women) have enriched their thought miles and miles beyond men’s linear progress. And their wealth of heart and mind shows in the way they engage with the world and with God. That’s what I appreciate about you: you share the wealth!
Well, to repeat a discussion I have been having for years, it is rational, logical, linear superior intellects that have made the world the way it is today? To me that is not a recommendation for there superior efficiency. Interesting point you make with women thinking in a non linearity sequence. If you observe a multi cylinder internal combustion engine, the firing order of the cylinders is not in obvious sequence, but off set to allow for maximum efficiency of the engine. Four cylinder engines use either 1, 3, 4, 2 or 1, 2, 4, 3. Linear has its place as does non liner. Fit for purpose needs to be the primary criteria for decision making. When it comes to spiritual matters, the sequence is infinite, to live right. It is harder to be bad, actually, but there are many who relentlessly pursue evil.
You and Beloved seem to be in perfect sync. I differ, however, on being good and bad. Personally, I find being good rather difficult as I tend to slip into badness the way one skids on a muddy footpath … seemingly without any volition. And goodness I have to reach for.
It will take a while to iron out what is good and what is bad. Regrettably I have seen things that I originally thought were good, that turned out bad, and bad that turned out for the better. When in doubt, I have selected cherry picked quotes from the Bible and a few other religious books that I hold on to with all claws and teeth.
I find that my conscience (if I take the time to listen, which is a special skill which I have not yet successfully mastered) does know the difference (and I think that might be what God means when He says we are made in His image, for we do NOT look like Him, seeing that He is spirit). The Bible quotes I know are not conducive to me ruling my conscience. But I also hold on to my religious books for dear life (literally).
Sometimes I think my conscience is hibernating as when I have listened to it, on occasion, have been frozen out of places where it wanted me to be, but were not accessible because other people’s beliefs. That eventually got me believing that the straight and narrow is actually the wide scenic route. Every once in a while I find something someone wrote or said that is worth believing and living.
Listened to my conscience too sometimes and found I could not obey because of what other people believe, but in such cases, I think the effort/the obedience is the thing.
One set of my grandparents had a print of the ‘The broad and narrow ways’ above their dining-room fireplace and as a child I stood there for hours, working out what was happening in specific places on the broad way … I decided then that I didn’t want to be on that broad way, because as far as I could see they were doing awful things … and many of them were very ugly and distorted. I love the straight & narrow, except for its ever uphill slant.
It very much looks like we had a somewhat similar experiences in our formative years. Popular opinion and convention never appealed to me, for some reason they always seems a bit article to the point of disagreeable. As we are using “broad” and “narrow” with reference to the same thing, I defer to infinity for an actual working definition. Creation is a big place, we have the freedom to choose where we go in it, so long as the path gets to a desirable end, then we have the freedom to select it. None the less, I still have problems asking for directions some days as I suffer from thinking I know what I’m doing and where I’m going. How wrong I sometimes am. The climb is not too much of an issue for me, it is the freewheeling runaway that going down into the valleys that can be difficult, usually there is enough momentum to get me up the other side.
The print was of Hieronymus Bosch’s painting. I’m also willing to wait for Higher Authority to furnish a working definition. I’m also more than slightly averse to popular opinion and even more so to convention (I spoke the eulogy at Beloved’s memorial service, clothed in white and shocked a number of people who found me ‘lacking in respect’). I don’t actually ‘mind’ the uphill way (it’s so right. The Christ carried His cross uphill, so why would I demand a different route?), but sometimes the slant is really steep and I have to learn something new/understand a specific matter better, before I can resume.
White garments are the classic conventional colour of morning in Japan, however in your instance, with the western connotation of white, you made a statement that very subtlety stated many things on many levels. Very well done. One of the quandaries of Christianity, is that its founder got treated rather badly, why would Christian expect to be treated any different, although it would be nice to have a few “cups” passed by.
I’ve read about white being the colour of mourning in Japan. Quite a number of the congregation thought I was being ‘bohemian’ (both for speaking his eulogy myself and for dressing in white), unwomanly (I should have let the minister do the speaking? But I’d known Beloved for 40 years!) and deliberately provocative in my white. It was all fine with me. And actually alleviated the taste of that ‘cup’ a bit. As you say, why should we be treated any better than Jesus was?
What you did is what you saw as right, which it was, your decision is yours and out of respect for you, nothing but acceptance or at least quiet tolerance. If there is a
eulogy, it should be given by someone who knows what they are talking about, not a person who has to deal with a lot of grey areas in the subject. Given a choice, I would prefer to be a wedding guest at Cana, than a participant at the last supper, I am a pussy.
Agreed. Do you think the young man of Mark 14: 51 was Mark himself? I had a Wednesday morning B/S with a number of ladies my own age and I offered my detective story reading of that passage and they all wondered whether I was adding to the words of Scripture, despite my having said that I was doing this because I like detective stories, I like the Biblical history and I wondered whether, in this instance, I could combine them for an extra-Biblical excursion. But I enjoyed the excursion.
Suspect it was Mark, as the actions of the individual would indicate that they had a concern or interest in the subject. A stranger would very likely not have joined a mob, or gone anywheres close to it as things were obviously getting out of control.
I’ll look up my Biblical detective story and post it for you.
Ok.
This is the short version: There were clearly unknown disciples on whom Jesus could rely, who, if they had little, gave it all (vss. 13 & 16; ch. 11: 2) & small services in the right place & time, may be essential parts of a plan. Mark still seems to find it wise to conceal the man’s name (vs. 13). The house might have been Mark’s own home (Acts 12: 12). Only ‘one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved’, in a better position to observe (John 13: 23-26), gives the final details of the drama at the table (vs. 20), but there are good reasons to question whether John was, indeed, the beloved disciple. Jesus institutes Holy Communion (vss. 22-25) as a natural follow-up to the Passover.
For the agony in the Garden of Gethsemane & the arrest, someone hidden & unknown must have seen & heard & reported (vss. 51-52 are peculiar to Mark, & perhaps it’s a way of signing his own work), even to Jesus’s very words. I do believe this was young Mark. Think of the rich widow of Jerusalem: in the long room on the roof of her house, the Lord and His disciples are having the Last Supper. In his room below, Mark lies still, aware of the danger surrounding this house this night. Then he hears Judas’s rapid footsteps going down the stairs (John 13: 30) and next the sounds of the company in the long room leaving. He throws his bedsheet around him & follows. He hears & sees all in the Garden, up to the coming of the betrayer and the arrest. Suppose he shouts a protest and the angry hands grab him & he slips out of his sheet (vss. 50-52)? In the early church, says an old tradition, Mark was known as ‘the Stumpfingered’: might he have received a sword slash across his fingers? Was it Mark’s cry that stirred Peter into action, perhaps against the very man who’d mutilated Mark’s hand?
You are very likely right, Mark wanted to “witness” the event for future reference, hence his “signature” being incorporated into the chronicle of events.
Thank you. The remark about being glad for not having my head, was prompted by a question I asked, ‘What was Jesus wearing when he came out of the tomb? Mary M doesn’t shout, ‘Oh help, there’s a naked man wandering around the garden!’ ?’ To my mind, Adam & Eve in Eden were clothed in the glory of God and then they sinned and lost the glory and needed clothes. But Jesus, crucified and risen, has won back that long-lost glory and MM doesn’t perceive Him as naked, although His shroud is lying in the empty tomb. He’s clothed in the glory of God.
Fairly sure he was dressed for the occasion. Jews don’t have much of a history of naked anything, Greeks and Romans were forever depicting the human form naked. If he would have appeared naked, there could be the suspicion he was not Jewish.
I don’t think He was naked. I think He was clothed in God’s glory and to the human eye, used to a certain type of clothing, He’d appear fully clothed.
Getting dressed for the occasion of the resurrection would be nothing more than a detail.
We’re getting those white robes, but after being resurrected. I don’t know that we’re going to be dressed beforehand. Surely the bodies must come before the clothing?
Probably won’t matter, everyone will look good, and behave properly.
Sheer excitement will have us all glowing.
It will be nice to “glow” and not be pregnant.
Oi vey, the 3 pregnancies were the 3 virtually migraine-free periods of my life. But yes, in the present Auckland winter ‘glow’ sounds warm.
“Glow” is severely overused around here, I started to “radiate” whenever the term was used. Language is influenced by geography.
One can also, on occasion, ‘smoulder’.
“Slow rolling boil” is what I ended up doing.
Does that lead to fireworks??? Am sending my proper e-mail address to the ‘rodent’. Did I promise anything else?
Slow rolling boil, in my case leads to volcanic eruptions, fortunately I don’t do it often, as I become much more unpleasant than normal when it happens, I don’t like it when that happens as I usually end up apologizing for collateral damage for a long time. Nope, just a mailing address.
Sent the address, but the niggle at the back of my head seems trying hard to remember something else. Perhaps it’s simply steaming away on its own.
Postal address, got your note, Thanks.
Does that make sparks and an explosion? If so, it’s worth doing!
Thank you. The ‘glad I don’t have your head’ remark was prompted by a question I asked, namely, ‘What was Jesus wearing outside the tomb, as His shroud was lying inside?’ After all, MM doesn’t shout, “Help, there’s a naked man wandering around the garden!”
I believe that Adam & Eve, in Eden, were clothed in God’s glory and then sinned and lost the glory and needed clothes. Jesus, having been crucified and resurrected, has won back the lost glory for all of mankind and we shall share in it after our resurrection.
Being naked would tend to shed a lot of the facade many people hide behind. Adam and Eve, I can see as not being encumbered by clothes. For the resurrection I am sure the appropriate vestment would be provided, it was, after all, the fulfilment of prophecy, there would have been some sort of dress code. As usual a couple of apostles had to be competitive to see who got to the tomb first, arriving dressed for a race instead of a miracle. Maybe the dress code was not considered that important after all.
What surprises me about the men and the women is the unbelief. Jesus had told them that He would rise on the 3rd day. They’d been with Him for 3 years and they’re all wildly surprised. Did they think He was lying? Did they think one shouldn’t take His words literally? What was happening?
People were sceptical then they still are today. The obvious is quite elusive to many people.
Yes! We’ve got the entire literally/not literally thing going well …
Have thought about this comment of yours for a while. What I have come up with is a quote from a Catholic priest when asked about being chaplain in a convent and hearing the sister’s confessions. He said it was like being stoned to death with popcorn… the ball is now in your court… I am feeling rather self righteously smug as I think you would have to work at being even a bit bad. Maybe a bit mischievous, but bad?
If I do a proper examination of conscience (Ignatius of Loyola), from prejudices, to motives, to thoughts, to words, to deeds, there is much to be rooted out (not counting the flashes of mischief, which I classify as play). One truly bad thing is that I worry about things & people, despite telling others to trust God … And I do trust Him and I worry? How’s that trust? And yet I know that the everlasting arms are under me, holding me up. And I wouldn’t like people to be able to see even the 10 most recent thoughts I’ve had! Thoughts fly so quickly, don’t they? They’ve been thought before one can grab their tails and pull them back into orderly ranks …
That is what makes freedom so much fun, is the freedom to think and act when appropriate. If everyone could read each other’s minds, it would not be much fun, definitely make for uninteresting conversations. One thing I am comfortable in, is that our Creator knows we are not perfect, it is not always what we do, but how we carry through afterward. Then there is the accounting part. Forgiveness and knowing it are a great feeling.
I like my ability to think and act (but, like many others, I’m not always sure that my think and act are appropriate). I know God knows that I’m not perfect (even I know that), and I’m grateful for the quiet evening when I can (in His wise and loving company) look back at the day, step by step, and see where I went right and where I went wrong and be forgiven and go to sleep with a clear conscience (which lasts until I get up the next morning …)
There is nothing worse than a nagging conscience. The little bit of time it takes every eyeing, is a small price to pay for have a reasonably clear one, with ongoing efforts to maintain and improve it, is well worth it.
Yes! I endeavour to keep a short (as short as I can keep it) account with God, but success eludes me in various ways every day.
Generally I tend to appease mine somehow, when I don’t I usually can’t sleep.
Yes. I keep thinking that one evening I shall stand before God with not a single transgression (prejudice, motive, thought, speech, act) on my conscience, the same way I dream of one day having perfect faith and saying to the mountain (preferably the part of the Taurus that contains Iran’s greatest nuclear works) to go jump in the sea …
I once told something about this definition of perfect faith and got a long sermon about Jesus not meaning it literally – I detest convention.
Convention is a crutch for those with no vision. Conversations that are not motivated by conversion or persuasion are no fun at all, has a go round with some alleged Catholic who was determined to convince me about some dreadful Jewish conspiracy. So what, no one is perfect, even the Jews have their “eccentrics” . There is you, Dorrie, Wilypagan and a few others that are inspirational to correspond with, in that we all have ideas, all share, but no one is trying to convert anyone to anything, except me and the purgatory thing, which I am not pushing as all I have to say about that will be said on a cloud when I say “told you so”.
Agreed. Every single race has its oddments (and islam is not a race). I shall watch the clouds and listen attentively … I also like Dorrie & Wilypagan.
When the time comes, I will arrange for tea and cucumber sandwiches,with the crusts removed, for all of us, the conversation will be very interesting.
Hmmm … new question: I’m aware that the risen Lord ate with His disciples at Emmaus and on the seashore. Do you think, in our glorified bodies we’re going to have to eat (which includes preparing meals, setting tables/trays and doing dishes)? The conversation sounds wonderful. If this is happening in heaven, may I bring Beloved with me? I’m sure he’ll enjoy the conversations and you’ll enjoy his wit.
Won’t have to eat, but it is likely going to take a while to get used to spiritual social conventions. Tea sounds like a good place to start.
OK. The approach-slowly concept.
As near as I can tell, birth is a bit of a change in life style, suspect death to be about the same.
Sounds reasonable, from my own Bible reading. Pity we do not remember how it was before we came ‘trailing clouds of glory’. I hope that with the next change I’ll remember a bit more.
Personally I think the only thing we are taking with us when we leave, that we didn’t have upon arrival, is experience.
Oi vey. I’d so like to take a few memories along ..
There is no doubt in my mind that that is precisely all we are bringing. The reason is that memories of experiences are what will define heaven or hell, depending on what one did in life.
I have memories that do not really point to spec. experiences: a memory of touching a rough brown tree bark, a memory of barely-there mist on the early morning sea, etc. They’re just there, as discrete memories of beauty. Can’t imagine a heaven sans a sea.
Infinity is just that, it will take that long to look at it all.
Revelation says there won’t be a sea … but perhaps that’s another one not to be taken literally.
There is a lot that shouldn’t be taken literally, those that do so, are on the same perilous path as islam.
I believe so. On the other hand, I’m rereading the Book of Revelation and John’s description of the city makes me think: he saw something so wonderful that he used the best gems and the best words for beauty that he knew but he didn’t really have the words to describe the grandeur … Imagine how surprised I’ll be when I get there and the gates are really made of enormous, gleaming pearls!!!
That raises another question, if giant pearls, then how big were the oysters they came from? Smoked oysters are something I cannot get enough of, will wait, with considerable anticipation.
Hmmm, I’m still wobbly on the do we eat in heaven/do we not eat in heaven matter. Your question delves into things like, where do the oysters come from if there is no sea? Who collects them, shucks them, prepares them, serves them, does the dishes? May I, most respectfully, ask, “If there’s a full kitchen in heaven, may I be assigned elsewhere?”
Personally I don’ think souls eat “soul food” or anything else, but to get in a familiar functional setting. Eating with friends, is a good ice breaker, so to speak. As I am the bane of housework, I cannot envision heaven as involving such misery.
Suddenly I feel much better!!!! But now what about your love of smoked oysters?
Will you send me a mailing address to the “rodent”? Want to try an experiment with the post office. Did not keep the one you sent earlier as it was a “one time” thing, it would have been unethical for me to not delete it when done.
Will immediately e-mail Son in Wellington: he set it up on the computer there and I’ve meantime returned to Auckland. Hang on.
Sent Son an e-mail to ask for the address, if it’s still on their PC. Shall let you know.
ok thanks.
If we remembered anything we would want to go back immediately,
Pretty sure I wouldn’t, not with Beloved and a huge number of other well-loved friends and family there.
Still working on what we were or were not before birth, after death, a bit easier to comprehend.
We shall comprehend when we get there, but perhaps not be able to explain to others.
That is the big problem with theology, religion and philosophy, they have to be learned by the individual, no one can do it for anyone else.
Same with life experience and with history (or is that a tautology?)
People understand things when presented in different ways, it is always good to repeat oneself in different terms, on occasion, for those who see things from a different angle,
And for others, to keep repeating.
To communicate, various techniques are needed. Knew a person who only learned or remembered things if they wrote them down. Being told something was not reliable, but if written down and read, no problems. Then there was another person who was quite intelligent, but autistic, if they heard something it was retained, if read, no comprehension at all.
fund two things were important in teaching young children who found learning difficult (which I did for free 2 days a week at a little elementary school near our house, after I’d retired): repetition and making the abstract visible. I also learn more easily from a text and I therefore find that I cannot really learn from videos.
Some days, I really wonder if I learn or have ever learned anything. It is good to keep oneself on the humble side, that happens to me, on occasions that it is needed.
A friend once said one should never ask God for humility, because it is a gruesome experience when He grants it … but you’re right, sometimes we need it.
Actually I don’t mind being humble, what gives me much grief is being “humbled” best to start out that way, much less painful then being forced into the position.
I’d also rather be humble than humbled. Remember the song about it being so hard to be humble when you’re perfect in every way?
Yes, I remember that song, there were a few people that I knew that were sure it was all about them.
Googled the song. It was written & performed by one Mac Davis. I even listened to the first stanza again … I didn’t know people who thought it was about them but all of them knew people who thought it was about them.
The world of entertainment is a funny place, there are things like that song, and the “Dilbert” cartoons. There is no way I can be convinced that the writer of “Dilbert” was not getting material form a couple of places I worked over the years.
Dilbert definitely receives info from a dept. I also worked for!
Administrative imbecility has reached epidemic proportions.
I’m not trying to be clever, but from a friend who regularly visits India and from another who lives in the USA it seems to be pandemic.
It definitely is, much worse than previously thought, for a while there was hope that the recession would thin out a few layers of stupid, but it seems to have added a couple more. It is getting had t o be able to afford all the administration we didn’t ask for, but got piled on us.
So’s the paedophile matter that’s now sticking out its head in the Jewish yeshivahs, and is there being being kept quiet, too. (Today’s Times of Israel.)
Keeping things like this quiet and trying to hide them only makes it worse when they do come out. islam is proud of the fact that it approves of, encourages and rationalizes pedophilia. Problems are not solvable util they are known and acknowledged. It is time some alleged religious “leaders” started leading instead of figure heading.
Islam is also not discussing this problem, mainly, I suppose, because for them it’s normative & not a problem.
That is the thing about islam, it takes each of the Ten Commandments, then rationalizes breaking them in order to be compliant with shari’a. What human decency describes as sin, shame and disgrace, islam glorifies and elevates.
Yes, horrible as it sounds, that’s exactly what they do.
On top of that, they brag about it. islam has no redeeming features.
Pehaps we can indoctrinate them to believe that politicians are good to eat.
That Queer`yan must have a reference to that.
An imam said a man may eat his wife if really hungry. She should comply as it is her duty to be part of him. There are references in the qur’an which allow for
According to several Middle East newspapers, the Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh has created a sensation after he issued a new fatwa which permits a man to eat his wife in the event that he is afflicted with a severe hunger and fear of starving. He can now, according to Sharia, Islamic law, eat parts of her body, or eat the flesh so that his hunger is satisfied.
The Mufti of Saudi Arabia said that this is evidence of the sacrifice of women and obedience to her husband and her desire to become one with his body.
This fatwa created a sensation on the social networks and in particular on Twitter, in which the Saudis are active users. Many have expressed shock over this fatwa, calling it cannibalism.
The Mufti also issued a fatwa a few weeks ago which said that marriage of minors under the age of 15 years is permissible, stressing that so far intentions to discuss the issue do not exist.
The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia is the head of Sharia Law, and the fatwas he issues are to be followed by Muslims around the world.
Yet the scholars Ahmad and Dawoud protested by saying that prophet Mohammad said, “Breaking the bones of a dead body is like breaking the bones of a live body. Al-Shafie said, “One may eat the flesh of a human body. It is not allowed to kill a Muslim nor a free non-Muslim under Muslim rule (because he is useful for the society), nor a prisoner because he belongs to other Muslims. But you may kill an enemy fighter or an adulterer and eat his body”.
Dawoud slandered Al-Mozny by addressing Al-Mozny saying, “You allowed eating the flesh of the prophets”. Ibn Sharie responded also to Al-Mozny by saying, “You allowed killing the prophets and did not allow eating the flesh of the infidels”.
Ibn Al-Araby said, “The proper thing for me is not to eat human flesh unless the person makes sure that this act saves him from starving to death and Allah knows best”.
This all depends on the definition of `eat`.
Was wondering who would bring up that detail… as it is islam, all of the above.
Y’t’day’s Gatestone Institute had an enligtening piece by S. Mansur ‘A Ramadan Piece: The other Islam’. I found it most interesting, esp. as to the views of Islamic thinkers.
It is sometimes interesting to read the islamic take on events. Unfortunately the ones I seem to find are all particularly arrogant and condescending. As I do not consider myself inferior or superior to anyone, these articles are of limited value to me.
Mansur quotes from & tells of Islamic thinkers who do not go with the mainstream of Islam. They are indeed the people Islam needs, but does not recognise.
A problem with islam is that it may have been able to force submission on its “converts” in the past, but today, with ideal and technology, the brute force and ignorance of the profit are no longer functional. More people leave islam than join it, those that are muslims, are only kept control through violence. The cracks are in the foundation of islam, which is built on sand. When it starts of break, it will destroy itself.
I wonder, with the recent IS attacks against both Sunni and Shia muslims, if that breaking has not started?
Personally, I think so, as islam is really an “cellular” type of autocracy, with each following the qur’an, picking the parts they find justify their personal preference of violence, accusing each other of apostasy fits well with the overall scheme of submission to violence.
If it has indeed started, may it continue long and fruitfully and free the millions of people who suffer the Arab, Iranese and Turkish oppression, esp. the women & children.
There is hope, in the past, it was easy to contain a lie to a geographical area, a bit of violence and the status quo is maintained. Today, not quite as easy, although many terrorists are thoroughly westernized muslims, they revert, but for every one of them there are many muslim that are not interested in the violent submission to an austere and hateful cult.
And my heart bleeds especially for the women & children who should have had better lives in the West and are still caught in the misogyny of islam and neither they nor their men (many of whom also do not want to submit to violence) seem able to get out of it because the West enables the Sharia courts and the horror.
And yet islam grows.
It is growing, but not as fast as its propaganda would like the rest of the world to believe.
Seven out of every ten converts, leave Islam, by Imam Luqman Ahmad
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enter and exitWe are constantly being told that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States. We are also being told that the Muslim population is anywhere from 2 million, to six million and that a third of them are converts. That would put the number of converts from around 700,000 to 2,000,000. However, I’m not sure if those numbers are accurate because many converts are leaving Islam, and or never even begin to practice Islam in any appreciable way other than take their shahaadah (declaration of conversion), and you don’t see anywhere near those numbers reflected in the nation’s masaajid.
Nor do you see too much evidence that people who became Muslim say, 20 years ago have stayed in the religion, raised their children upon it and started a second generation, or even third generation. The overall estimates of the Muslim population may be accurate, but the stated percentage of converts does not seem reflected on the ground. In almost every major city in America except for maybe Philadelphia and to a certain extent, Atlanta, you don’t see too many large communities of converts to Islam. You see a lot of young people who are recent converts and that’s great but where are the thousands upon thousands of Muslims who converted ten years ago? Twenty years ago? Thirty years ago? Where are their children, their grandchildren?
We need to re-evaluate the statistics that are being fed to us, because it has lolled many of us into a false sense of accomplishment to the point where we brag about how well Islam is doing amongst converts in America while in reality, it seems converts, by and large, are not faring that well and that the largest concentrations of Muslim men in America are those in our nation’s prisons. When I used to volunteer at Folsom prison, there would be hundreds of male converts in attendance, and I have never seen hundreds of male converts at any Masjid anywhere in California.
At risk of being blasphemous, this came up, it is somewhat irreverent, but I find it ok. My friend’s name is “Bob” which after I found out meant “battery operated boyfriend” then speculated about him and the energizer bunny. He is a bit nervous for some reason.https://youtu.be/bVVOUHTtJkY
I can imagine that he would be …
He should know by now that… anything can happen.
‘The unexpected mostly often happens’, doesn’t it?
Life is what happens while making other plans. Some times it happens to me, other times, I do it to others, when one does not watch t.v. one has to amuse oneself on occasion.
At the moment (two teenagers in the house) I don’t much indulge my taste for amusing myself (except in my head), but I can still do it with the youngest who is going on 12 and very, very sharp, with an exuberant enjoyment of wit.
Teenagers are more fun that a barrel of monkeys, the have remarkable similarities, When the kids were in their teens, I took particular joy in the literal version of dipping their thumbs in warm water while sleeping. There are still a few comments about those years.
I like our teenagers, but just now, towards the end of the year and in the last week of term there’s a bit of sensitivity. The youngest has no such hang-ups (not yet).
The unpredictability of teenagers is much of what makes them interesting. In some ways I sort of feel sorry for the x as it missed out on a lot, by pandering to its carnal desires instead of living life in the sequence that is intended. O well, nothing can be done about that.
Agreed. But I’m sad for them for they have really missed out on much that gives unalloyed pleasure.
It is important to take the day and enjoy it for what it is, as we only go this way once, some people don’t know what is valuable, there is nothing that can be done, as value is something one has to learn for oneself.
Pity all these things we must learn for ourselves: would have been so much easier to learn from others’ experience.
If we could do that, it would be true utopia within one generation.
Probably that’s why our brains are not enabled to do it. We’re not meant to create our own Utopias.
Perhaps some have a built in “fail to” mode. In that whenever they have success at hand, they prefer to grasp failure for the jaws of victory. Some people I know certainly seem that way.
Abba Eban said, post the Geneva Peace Conference of 21 December 1973 ‘The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity’. Still true.
That is a fact, with turkey being the perfect text book example of frequently lost opportunities.
Turkey is, yes, but Gaza is a very close second. I wonder if Mr Abbas is really running out of time there?
turkey because of its geographic location could have been the bridge between east and west, profiting from both. As it turned out, is has the worst of everything which it incubates and encourages. gaza is a ingrown hair of the middle east, it has no value until its present residents are removed or replaced by a generation of creatures with brains.
Turkey is, in a sense, that bridge: how much has Mrs Merkel paid Turkey not to send any more ‘refugees’? Now Turkey seems to be holding out for membership of NATO (sponsored by Mrs Merkel?) And Turkey’s still getting rid of ‘refugees’ Greecewards … It might be feeding its own very worst habits, but it’s profiting, at least in getting money and getting rid of inconvenient people! I do not think that either the PA or Hamas likes people with brains, for such people see what’s wrong and say so … the thinking people tend to end up dead or in prison.
Very true, islam is not for those who have any curiosity about “why” things are or any other question., islam means submit, or die, no room for discussion. A thinking muslim is a treat, that must be eliminated as islam has one problem solving tool, senseless violence.
I know a muslim family in the homeland: a quiet gentle family of shopkeepers who want more than that for their children, but their chances, with an influx of ‘devout’ muslims are so very slim. The father is a reader and talks about a great many things, but carefully.
That is a big problem with islam, is that it refuses to grow or move with the times, it is kept back by those who either have much to gain by preserving the status quo or are afraid of change. The destruction of islam has started with the factions not accepting each other, or anything else, but following the contradictions of the qur’an, which can only lead to destruction.
I think your first proposition: they who have much to gain by preserving the status quo – status, the right of life & death over others, being courted outrageously by Western leaders who should know better …
Machiavelli was right about change hard to accomplish, because those who profit from existing systems will not want to do anything to jeopardize their investment.
Sounds exactly like the ayatollahs, mullahs & imams. You must have been working out a definition for them.
Actually my definition of them is a collage of obscenities and language learned from working in hydrocarbon development, a mental institute and jail. The moderator would not approve. Will have to refer to Machiavelli, as he is much nicer in his description.
I have clearly not seen your definition of the religious authorities in islam! OK with Macchiavelli!
As I would like you to not have a low opinion of me, I shall keep my personal opinion islam quiet. But suffice to say I can get sailors, “rig pigs” and other persons of questionable integrity to blush, if pontificated in some circumstances.
I cannot have a low opinion of you. Do you talk to your ‘sailors, “rig pigs” and other persons of questionable integrity about islam?
Absolutly, the only people I have time for are those who can converse on any variety of subjects, islam does come up as it is attracting a lot of negative attention. … still, must be careful, I have been known to attract a certain amount of criticism, for some opinions.
No, no, I was just wondering about their responses? Don’t post: I’m sure there’ll be a certain amount of criticism.
Oh yes, 360 degree feedback does occur. Sometimes it is sort of positive, more likely not, I do tend to get emotional at times, must be creeping westernization, as I never used to be particularly emotional.
Congratulations: you’re assimilating!!!!!!!!!!! Lovely concept – 360 degree feedback.
Is assimilating a good thing? 360 degree feedback was a thing we had to give our supervisors once a year, not that they ever paid any real attention to it, but it gave the masses a sense of empowerment. giggle.
In many places in the West the M problem is that the refusal to assimilate. But I was pulling your leg. Our supervisors (school inspectors) spent a period or two in our classes and that was that!!!! Badly sabotaged any sense of empowerment …
Long ago I remember school board members sitting in on classes on rare occasions, they seemed, even back then to be a particularly poorly informed creature on what teaching and learning is all about.
Additionally, I came to the conclusion that, with some sterling exceptions, school inspectors were also poorly informed on what constituted teaching & learning.
The ones I remember, were a collection of moujik, who never really had any education and were unsure of its benefits or use. There was a major debate in the decadent western city I went to school in as to whether the slide rule should be allowed in classrooms. Eventually it was, but not without some very uninformed discussion.
Hey, I remember slide rules! Beloved used one for Maths 1 (1960). I never went on with Maths at uni, much preferring lit. But I remember years later, the same sort of discussion about investing in/not investing in a photocopier … same sort of people took part in the discussion too.
These are the same bunch of education administrators that would ban penknives and goose quills because writing was over rated, Heaven forbid some girl get her pony tail dipped in an inkwell.
There was also a general Something or Other who watched an aeroplane display and thought it was interesting but they’d never have more than novelty value.
It is amazing how short sighted people get into positions of authority. Sometime sit is necessary to think above and beyond the present to figure out the future.
How they get into positions of authority is the riddle! As to thinking above and beyond, to many that’s an impossibility.
Someone has to to these things, those who get these jobs usually are those who can kiss up to the voters or whoever hires them with very believable stories, then, once they are in office, maintain it through the same fairy tales.
You make them sound like Mr Erdogan. He’s well-known for Fairytales by uncle Reccep/Recep (?)
World leaders are a particularly good example of profound kiss ups and liars.
Perhaps you and I should start a ‘Fairy tales for all occasion’ website and Mr Comey’s interview with Mr Gowdy can go there to start the collection (although Mr Comey may actually be boxing very, very clever).
That is a good idea, a few years ago some one gave me a copy if “Politically correct fairy tales” is was rather well written, quite enjoyable, might be worth doing a series of politically correct contemporary news fairy tales, for a while?
Would be very interesting!
It is somewhat dated, I found it last winter and re-read it, but the ideas are good as is the format.
Lovely to try!
Ah that reminds me of my early school house antics.
If you were the one who dipped my pig tails in the inkwell, it was a waste, anthracite blonde matches ink quite well.
That is waht the BCC* calls Conservatism.
* BCC: Beltway Crime Cartel
After reading this comment again, I don’t think I have ever been more delightfully complimented.
Sheer truth, lady!
Blush, turned 18 shades of the colour produced by the longest waves of the visible spectrum, approximately 630 to 750 nm.
Sheer humility, lady!
Once again, it is to blush. Theo only thing I ever has that was “sheer” was a nighty, long ago.
I think you’re wonderful, sheer nighty and all!
Shortly after Beloved died in April 2000 I had an infected foot and went into hospital and the young women (they were all 3 so young, 16 years ago) went shopping for 3 sets of pyjamas. One set was dark-red satin. One morning I was still in pyjamas, when a friend’s daughter came in and she said, ‘What beautiful pyjamas. What a waste that nobody, except us, sees it!’ Wasn’t sheer, just a bit clingy.
It still seems strange to me, to have at one time bought clothes who’s sole purpose was to motivate someone into talking me out of them. Fashion eludes me, I think I have spent too much time in a largely male, though there are more women entering it all the time, world.
I didn’t actually ever buy them but Beloved and the girls did! They had a sort of intrigue going …
Must confess to making a few futile attempts to be “alluring” turns out I am as alluring as an umbrella with a glockenspiel folded in it.
I remember one attempt at a new hairstyle and another at painting my face: neither was successful … sad to relate. Don’t think I quite got to the umbrella stage.
Occasionally hormones and bored genes must gang up um what is left of my brain, as I have come up with some fairly strange ideas over the years, fortunately they seem to be slowing down as I get older.
They are slowing down … pity. I liked most of them. Where’s the days when Son described me as weird and Younger Daughter said, ‘I’m so glad I do not have your head’.
My kids are resigned to the fate that their parents had no normal children. That’s my story, I am sticking to it, and it is all their fathers fault.
Our children are persuaded of the opposite: they have no normal children, and it’s all our fault (mine and Beloveds) for it’s all our genes.
Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children.
I thought there was an illogicality in their argument somewhere. Thank you for explaining that.
On must instruct the children in the error of their ways, occasionally.
Will do, next time the topic is raised.
Getting the kids to admit to anything is getting hard do, they have gone from knowing everything to indifference.
I don’t think they admit, but they hear, although they pretend not to. I must believe that something sticks somewhere.
When I was abut 18, I was amazed at how little my parents knew about anything, by the time I got to 25, I was amazed at how much they’d learned.
I have, for years, used that quote from Mark twain for our children and now I use it for our grandchildren. I think he put the ages at 17 and 21, but I’ll have to check up on that. My forgettery is growing stronger than my memory.
It fits very well into any combination of numbers. Mark twain had a lot of very good observations.
Therefore one of my heroes. I esp. liked what he reportedly said when travelling in Israel he asked a fisherman’s price to take him across the Sea of Galilee. On hearing the amount, he is alleged to have said, ‘No wonder Jesus wept’.
Business is business, even the Saviour of the world had to deal with it. That would be part of his divine/human attributes, his reaction to inflationI suspect would be similar to every one eases.
Probably, though, once in heaven, no more ‘Give unto Caesar …’ The taxman may find himself unemployed.
After a polite amount of righteous wrath from taxpayers, they too can enter.
I’m sure that there are morally & ethically upright tax collectors and I don’t know if they’ll have to wait for the ‘payers’ wrath to subside, but some may have to.
There are good in the worst and the worst in the good. Once again here I am passing this over to the powers that be to sort it out. If I only had a brain…https://youtu.be/nauLgZISozs
Thank you. Enjoyed that no end!!! And I also give thanks that we have a trustworthy Higher Authority to figure out all the nitti-gritties.
I know the quote! mainly, i want to apologise for being so slow to reply. I had a computer problem (it freezes up every now and then) and then, I gave up because I had a savage migraine (probably computer-caused). But I did eventually reply this a.m.
That is the nice part about fast written communication, it is ready when you are, and available for all parties concerned at their convenience. Hope you are getting over you migraine.
Am, yes, but there’s always that point when one doesn’t know whether the thing is going to become better or flare up against. Still haven’t heard from Son re that other address: it was on an unused computer in their house (everybody there has his/her own and this big one just sits there) but Son said he was going to delete the address and he’s working incredible hours of overtime. Doesn’t sound as if he’s home much …
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Oh help! I’m trying to get hold of a certain person who’s advertised a temporary post for a helper for children who find learning hard and my head is in 3 or 5 or 10 places at the same time. What was I going to send?
Only a mailing address.
Perhaps I’m going schizophrenic (but I’d prefer catatonic).
O dear, not again, I had a friend who mentioned something similar. the issue with one, as one gets older, is the percentage of things that one has to deal with, it is cumulative. When younger, not nearly as much on the pile as there is as one get older and more involved with being alive. Cat – a – tonic, take a few “cat naps” it tends to clear things up rather nicely.
That is probably the solution! Shall lie down on the couch for a moment or two …
Have a nap. Naps are good.
No nap yet, headache sparking up, but the washing’s done, the address in your hands (or computer) and the e-mail to the school sent. Now I’m hungry …
Ever notice that no matter how much you do, there is always something else? Prepaid penance?
Must be!
That I am very sure of. If I couldn’t rationalize it that way I would go crazier, I am sure.
I like the ‘crazier’!
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Sent my proper e-mail address. Did I promise to send anything else with it?
Thumb screws work every time.
There is something to be said for that.
Cholmondeley … that sounds familiar for some reason, think it might have appeared n an old “Doonesbury” cartoon at some time. This will require some consideration, before I figure out that it would take ages to sort through them to see if it actually did? Then again, maybe it was in Bob Edwards writing? Arrrrgh, my bad memory has done me dirt, again.
I first read the surname in a story/cartoon when I was about 12 and it took me a few years before I realised the surname is pronounced Chumly.
Success at last, I knew I read that name somewhere long ago, It took a while for my brain cell figured it out, haven’s read “Eye Opener Bob” for years, but to a few of us in high school, he was a folk legend.
Edwards also invented Albert Buzzard-Cholomondeley, an English remittance man whose “letters” home contained ingenious and hilarious methods of extracting money from his father.
You’re very bright! My memory takes much longer than yours to click in. But now you’ve served my memory! Thank you.
Memories are like mammaries, I really wish I had it/them. As I get older I get a little jealous of those who are smart and good looking. Sigh.
I never was either of the two, anyway, so yes, I envy but I do not miss …
In some ways I think I missed out on a few things, in retrospect, it probably worked out for the better.
What I seem to have missed out on totally turned out not to matter in the long run.
It is hard for me to tell, some things, I think would have worked out better if a different path followed, but that leads to other variables… there is some truth in the saying “No matter where you go, there you are”.
Yes. Beloved and my life together was complete, retired by the sea, long walks on the beach to check on starfish and anemones and sometimes finding a shell to add to our collection (also gifted to a museum later) … and then he died. Our children were married, at peace and doing well … and then they emigrated. So, at 73, taking stock of the variables, here I am on a cold morning in Auckland, writing to a person I’ve never met, but whom I have come to know as outstandingly clever, from whom I learn and to whom I tell things I’d never have believed possible. True: ‘No matter where you go, there you are’.
“No matter where you go, there you are” “Oblivion, You are here” and “Bloom where you’re planted” are a few phrases that have explained a lot to me. You and a few others on the internet, have taught me more than I though was available to learn.
I don’t believe oblivion awaits us, but, on the other hand, I’m not actually sure that I’m blooming where I am, either … Being a Christians is difficult, isn’t it? I agree with the learning: at the moment the curve is sharply upward again, thanks mainly to you, but also to others on the ‘net.
There was a sign on the bulletin board at a place I once worked. It was a big circle with a dot in it, with the caption “Oblivion, you are here” after a while it made perfect sense. Sort of like another one which said “Doing a good job here is like wetting yourself in dark pants, it gives a warm wet feeling, but no one notices” . Having never defined myself by any standard other then myself, I had no real problem. Those who defined themselves by what they did or do, were not a happy bunch, as are all who resent the world not seeing their true genius, despite them mentioning it frequently. The Internet, has a lot of good things, people like you are part of it. So long as you keep off the “bell curve” you will never stop learning. Of all the things I loath, the “bell curve” is very high on the list.
I’m also just me, and I have no actual problem with others touting their unrecognised genius, believing that that sort of genius is unrecognised for a reason.
I like the ‘net and its newfound genius for allowing one to make friends! Especially friends like you.
Where were the parents of this little girl who was left wandering about unsupervised and consequently fell prey to these vile monsters?
I’m speechless at the amount of sadism and hatred towards the innocent victims.These vile monsters should be dispatched from among civilized people. Worse yet are the western politicians who are bringing them to our midst , and lying for them and protecting them. They are our worst enemies. Same is the MSM who hides their crimes and protects them . If people are to survive they have to take the reins of survival into their own hands.
There is no reason a child cannot play outside without being raped. The crime here is the rape, not the actions of the child or her parents.
Idaho is militia and prepper territory. It is a miracle these ragheads did not vanish mysteriously. And may yet.
We can add child molestation, rape and abuse to the long list of crimes Obama is guilty of. Obama is responsible for what happened to this 5 year old girl and just as guilty as the pond scum that assaulted her. Obama brought these bottom feeders into this Republic and he should be held accountable for it along with his other high crimes and treason.
As far as the people in Idaho like the idiot in the picture holding a sign saying ” Refugees Welcome “, they should be locked up in mental institutions. So much for Mrs. Potato Head holding the sign. I wonder how she would feel if a family member was raped, and abused by these so called ” refugees “?
I am just curious what they are putting in the drinking water in Idaho?
Just my 2 cents worth.
Paul Ryan! A Catholic? Yep! And a ‘bought person’. From Canada.
What do you have against Canadians? Would you rather import more muslims?
Hmmm, didn’t you once say you wanted Canada’s muslum population to immigrate to the USA?
Whether I want it or not, that is where it is going, muslims from the middle east do not like the extremes of Canadian climate. Your president is right, global warming is the biggest problem facing America, as it has made Canada unacceptable for islamic habitation, but has made America perfect for them.
LOL. Well done. Bravissima!
& he promised to keep Trump on a Constitutional leash.
My mind is having trouble wrapping around the depth of depravity required to do those things to a person, and all laugh about it. I guess that can happen when you accept a vile belief system that lets Satan make you a vessel for his lusts.
This liberal asshole holding the sign is part of the problem and the solution.
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We have a clear choice in November to put America first or to embrace globalism. Donald Trump will preserve our secular laws and protect American values – the savages in Twin Falls will be deported and returned to a country that embraces their sharia law. If globalism becomes our first priority then we can expect more savagery because Hillary’s politically correct multiculturalism defends all values and cultural norms as equals. I have news for Hillary – all cultures are NOT the same. I am not telling any Muslim to reject sharia law – I am telling every Muslim that I reject sharia law in America.
Animals…
Islamophobia anyone???
It is the primary product of muslim industry everywhere.
Along w/islamic terrorism and persecution.
I am ashamed of Twin Falls Idaho. Idaho, my favorite State, has taken one giant step backward for mankind.
Hi Pamela can you give some more details about this “Australian nurse who made the mistake of falling asleep in a car in a Western country where Muslims were permitted to reside.” I’m in Australia and can’t say I’ve heard anything about this and I follow all this stuff very closely. If it’s true it would have been headline news in some papers here – there is already plenty of commentary about muslim inspired events and it has been ramping up over the last year as the obvious becomes harder to deny. Was this recent or some time back? Where did the report come from?
Looks to me that this refers to the story in the Herald by Paul Sheehan which he ‘regrets and did not sufficiently check the facts of’. It’s probable that the ‘victim’ at least greatly embellished the story and could have made it up. IMO it really hurts the cause when a story like this is repeated (as above) when it is so easily shot down.
The political elites who can financially insulate themselves from these barbaric hordes don’t care – it’s the masses who cannot afford to get away to safety who must suffer from the decreased safety these Muslims bring to their neighborhoods, their pastimes, their modes of transportation.
I’m sorry… But instead of the Hatfield vs McCoys… It’s going to be HatfieldMcCoys vs MudSlimes!!!!! There are places all across this Great Country to make a Few Hundred Thousand MudSlimes Dissappear!!! Instead of Where’s Jimmy Hoffa??? It’ll be Has anyone seen MoHam-ed?? These Filthy Animal’s that did this Horrible Act against this Innocent Little Girl Should have Their Bloodlines Terminated!!!!
I think they need to purge all muslims from this country. I don’t care were they were born, but we would not allow any other religious community to act the way these boils on the butt of humanity act. Thanks to Obama for bringing in the Muslim Brotherhood, infiltrating our government with these Aholes and defiling our citizens with their horrendous actions. Why do you think Egypt purged their government and country of Muslim Brotherhood! If they can do it so can we. Oh I digress, we have one running the country right now. So if you want them gone, you better get out there and vote for Trump, because Hillary is just an extension of Obama and the muslim brotherhood. Just check our Huma. She is part of the muslim sisterhood which is the female arm of the muslim brotherhood.
These boils are making our country sick. Time to lance them and cleanse our country of this illness.
You should realize that under Sisi, the “moderate” muslum dictator, Coptic Christians are still being persecuted by the government under the guise of islamic blasphemy laws and the persecution of Christians outside of the government hasn’t stopped (muslums burned down a dozen more Christian homes while the all muslum police force did nothing).
I know! Soon to be in a City near you..USA. That is why they need to be purged from our country! Even if they were born here, most have not assimilated especially if they are wanting Sharia. Look at the other countries who have tried to help them, and instead they rape, murder, and riot. I would say they are Animals, but ANIMALS act better than they do. No, these neanderthals have never evolved.
I’m sure CAIR is going to sue the landlord for the evictions because of his cultural bigotry.
0 immigration from countries that discriminates women and gays. HANG EM IF THEY DO THESE ACTS.
Names – we need names so that we know who not to rent to.
Deport these savages with a Remington .308 to the brain ….Cheapest way i know…
Want to know how they really live? Look at the hell holes they come from…
Get real America…you are at war …whether you like it or not…
Not only is the government white wash of the victim a deferment to the Muslims it’s a slap in the face to the American taxpayer who subsidize these ungrateful SOB’s. This government will never understand what jihad truly is. It’s not just a war on the battlefield but an ongoing consistent degradation of American law & way of life. Those boys should be put on the sexual predator list for the rest of their lives & deported back to Sudan & Iraq. If Hillary Clinton is voted in expect more of the same. There will more & more capitulation. Once Muslims get a foothold in any community or country they make obscene demands over & above the normal wants & needs of the general population. Look at what is happening in Minn. Food banks, the Somali’s want free halal food. Can you believe just how ungrateful these people are. Free food & then it has to be halal. Which city has the money for that. We need to send a clear message regardless of your party affiliation that this immigration business isn’t working & the Somali’s, Iraq’s etc be resettled in BFE.
Good! I can think of other things that should be done to them but I will be content for the moment.
And for Odumbster and his AG–Screw you both!
And those like that dumb chick holding the welcome sign–they are just stupid and there is no cure for stupid!
Who cares what country this vermin is from…….Syrians are not the only Muslim refugees being allowed into, what was once a free America, I said
“once was” We are not free anymore. Our freedoms are being eroded on a daily basis..Our freedom of religion is not what it once was because we now are calling a murdering CULT A religion..We have no say about who we allow into our country..We are forced to abide by laws passed with the stroke of a pen…we are also forced to abide by laws …..not provided by the constitution,but ordered by 9 people who are “making ” laws instead of upholding them…
I could go on and on but I do think the American people are smart enough to know what is happening to our “freedoms” and allowing more Muslims in is just another devastating reason..Just look at Europe for a lesson. Surely that should be enough to make obummer and his minions reverse the decision.
The 2/3rds of Germans that want Merkel out at the next election would probably prefer this happen to her (no chance with her security). Ruddy mandating “multiculturalism” and “racial tolerance” (Muslim problems) for others to live with.
The boys that did the crime ARE GUILTY and punishment is the order BUT, BUT the real punishment belongs to the parents and to there mouseque leaders because they are the ones who taught these dogs to do these and other acts against infidels (which these devils are the REAL infidels and they are taught that the little girl is a dog. This is how ignorance of God’s Word [the ONLY triune God] works).
Islam breeds VIOLENCE, and VIOLENT sexual predators.
But why won’t Pam sign on to actually getting rid of Islam in America?
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html
Thursday, February 08, 2007
A Proposed Constitutional Amendment
Background and justification to Amendment 28
Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;
Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice one’s religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a “religious test” for participation in the body politic;
Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;
Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;
Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even “moderate” Muslims states such as Turkey and Malaysia actively suppress other religions;
Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenet the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (holy war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;
Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;
Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;
Whereas there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;
Therefore: Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:
Article I
The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.
The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.
Article II
As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.
Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.
Article IV
Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.
She had the chance to publish this back in 2007 but still she ignores it.
It would take a civil war to implement that amendment — especially now when a significant majority of our representatives are on the take to islamic petrodollars.
bacha bazi ya’ll. Web search this. If you are not outraged, you will be!
bacha bazi ya’ll. Web search the term.
If you are not outraged already, you will be!
I have an honest question. I retired from law enforcement over 20 years ago so this may sound quite stupid. Can you not use deadly force anymore to stop felonies?? Seems that if someone had shot these subhumans it would be a permissible shoot?? Or beaten their privates hard enough where sex would not be possible, forever.