Earlier this morning or very late last night (in my world) I received a strange and disturbing report that a group of Muslim men opened fire on hikers and campers in a large state park in California. Unable to confirm the source, I waited to post. More info is coming in …..
Of course there has been no reporting from the enemedia on this.
A heavily armed group of men with Middle Eastern appearance was arrested two hours ago outside Los Angeles after opening fire upon hikers and campers in a large State Park in the area.
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Super Station 95: Photos taken by one of the victims of the attack have been supplied to SuperStation95 as have screen shots of MMS messages sent/received during the incident. They appear below.
No word yet from authorities about the identities or affiliation of the men arrested. The Adelanto, CA Police Department effectuated the arrests.
According to the victim/witness, there were two groups of men, about 15 per group, armed with heavy weapons, who began shouting “Allah u Akbar” and started firing. The firing allegedly lasted upwards of TWO HOURS before police were able to find callers in the vast California parkland.
When police were responding, one group of 15 or so men took-off into the hills, while the other group was captured by police.
According to one of the victim/witnesses, his cellphone GPS map indicates below where the incident took place:
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At a camping area near Deep Creek Hot Springs, north of Lake Arrowhead and east of Hisperia.
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Photo and police scanner audio at link below.
APPLE VALLEY-(VVNG.com): At 9:20 a.m. on Sunday morning multiple agencies including the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies from the Victor Valley Station responded the report of suspicious circumstances at Deep Creek hot springs area.
Per scanner traffic, the reporting party told dispatchers that there were fifteen or more possibly armed men of middle eastern descent that camped out at the location chanting loudly through the night in what was believed to be their native language. Some of the men, believed to be in their 20’s went to a secluded area to shoot at around 3:00 a.m. Witnesses said that the shots fired sounded louder than that of handguns.
The Sheriff’s helicopter was the first on scene and they reported that when the men saw them they grabbed their things and began hiking toward the Bowen Ranch parking lot. The helicopter followed as deputies were en route to the location. The deputies arrived at the Bowen Ranch parking lot and waited for the men to approach.
The men continued to hike for around 20 minutes with backpacks and other bulky items. During the hike, the men reportedly huddled up in possible discussion and at one point split up into two groups.
When deputies approached the men all complied and were patted down. After all were patted down and cuffed, deputies requested an area search since they believed they could have ditched weapons while hiking the trails. Deputies searched for over an hour and did not locate any weapons left behind.
It is unclear if any weapons were located in the possession of the suspects. San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Spokeswoman, Olivia Bozek said, “The deputies detained the subjects and from what I was told they are going to be transported to the High Desert Detention Center. I do not know what charges they are going to be booked for.”
This story is continuing to develop and more information will be updated as it becomes available.
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Cate
7 years ago
CBS Los Angeles is now running the story. All of the men were detained and then released. I hope someone in law enforcement had the presence of mind to put every one of them on a watch list. And they need to be watched by their neighbors, too, because these guys are up to no good.
Who said they were shooting at 3am?? Oh, that’s right, it was Pamela. Well, It was actally 8am and people shoot in parks all the time. that’s why they were all released. Because no crime was committed
That would be Canada you clown. And you are saying that people in America don’t go out to parks for shooting?? You don’t watch your own news much do you?? Oh that’s right, you get your news from this page. http://www.snopes.com/muslims-open-fire-hikers/
If you read the article you would know we aren’t talking about a city park. It was Federal land, which is why the FBI were called in and determined that no crime was committed.
Other news sources have a little different story. There wasn’t 2 groups, men all complied with law enforcement, they were all released and the FBI is involved.
…and Ft. Hood, Chattanooga, Merced, Oklahoma, New York, Garland, TX, etc, etc, etc……(we are in their crosshairs!) Don’t turn your back to a Muslim! Best to all, Zingara
We should have a Jihadi watch database. People can report Muslims with questionable ties to radicalism and have them in a searchable database. I’d be interested to see if there are any living near me!
Funny, I thought your guns had to be locked in their case in California when they are not at home or at your workplace, absent a permit to carry. Is this another double standard being applied to exonerate the followers of the pedophile or have the Sheriffs actually issued them permits. Either way, it is creepy and makes me not want to go camping. It is time to cleanse our country of these savages. Go Trump!
Not true. Handguns must be locked during transport with ammunition in a different part of the vehicle. Bolt action rifles do not need to be locked while in transit, but it is always a good idea to remove the bolt and put a lock through them anyway. When you are on BLM land firearms do not need to be locked, and sidearms can be carried in a holster. There are other areas and times when you can walk around the wilderness with loaded firearms as well, think about hunters. It would be nearly impossible to hunt if you had to haul around your rifle locked in a rifle case while stalking your target…
Thanks for the info. I will look into it. I would feel a lot safer camping with my handgun on me, especially with wierdos out there shooting into the air.
I highly recommend doing your own research. Law enforcement usually gives little to no leeway when it comes to guns. I’m going camping on BLM land in April and I know I can legally have my firearm loaded at all times, just not concealed. The same laws don’t always apply in different areas, ie national parks or forestry land. Good luck and be safe.
Don’t let this cockroaches disturb you american brothers and sisters. this is not what is that religion at it core. the same BS that happened with other religions nothing new, sick people take it and explain it as it serves their madness. Go for parking, go to parties, celebrate the life at best you can. don’t let them win!
nanza
7 years ago
Sure, practice run, and of course they were released. Apparently they are the “untouchables” !!
Omate7
7 years ago
CA. NY. NJ. MN, WI,PA,VA,DC,IL,FL,KS,AZ are a NEST of Islamic Terrorists!
At least in AZ, the Muslim terrorists will most likely be out gunned with many residents that do own and carry. If it’s a local militia group, then the law enforcement will be out gunned.
Headline says “opened Fire on hikers and campers” but story mentioned nothing of that. I’m concerned but you lose credibility with this type of journalism.
Read the tweets by the campers…. The Arabs mounted the ridge and proceeded to fire down to the valley where the campers were… Not aiming at individuals … but one’s not supposed to fire toward people …. if one knows people to be present at a location…
This sounds like some gun fun in the desert and campers get nervous and call cops, I also like shooting my guns out in wilderness areas it’s called freedom.
I wonder if they were the same men I reported to park Rangers at Joshua tree national park, with sniper rifles,, hand guns and a butt load of ammo on a Sunday spying on the family campsites? Called the sheriff too. I was IGNORED! I called the FBI shortly after as the San Bernardino attack occurred. Hisperia is jus a short ride off of 247! DAMN! This little desert is turning into jihad central! I’m gonna have to call the Fumble and Blundering Investigation on this one too and connect to dots FOR them. SMDH
Hope you will call again. Maybe you will not be ignored this time. Anyone with information regarding this investigation is urged to contact
Deputy S. Scranton or Sergeant D. Rodriguez at 760-552-6800. Callers
wishing to remain anonymous may call the We-Tip Hotline at
1-800-782-7463 or go online at http://www.wetip.com.
The commenter Victoria Martinez (above) reported men with sniper rifles at Joshua Tree and said she was ignored. I was replying to her comment. There was another commenter that said he also saw men firing guns in the past few weeks at the park or campground that this incident happened He said he did not call because it was too much at 3am and the police would not take him seriously.
Because the feds know about these guys and probably have them infiltrated with confidential informants. Just like how Tim McVeigh was well known to the intelligence community.
I remember reading a story about local police who had been hired and WELL PAID as off-duty security for a Saudi petrocrat. When one of the servants was beaten right in front of them they did nothing (this according to the servant who was beaten).
Victoria, next time you see them armed, and the police don’t respond, wait 2 minutes call back and say never mind you shot them. I bet the police would be there in minutes.
Park rangers are do-nothing, see-nothing clock watchers at the bottom of the dole pit. To get a union, State-paid employee to react, their job would have to be in jeopardy which means the islamedia would have to be involved.
The American government under Hussein Obama is catered for the moslem savages
rw93003
7 years ago
Looks to me like it was just a bunch of guys of mideastern descent camping and target shooting– That is very common (for everyone) in those places. They had the misfortune to cross paths with some PC alarmist types who probably support sanctuary cities.
Can you believe your buddy Obama is allowing another 100,000 of these assholes in the country, and the ones already here have infiltrated areas of national security during the 8 year assimilation period. And you worry about Trump?
Already have 700 thousand from Somalia Sudan iraq Afghanistan who knows were else since 1990s.
:
Dar Al Uloom Al-Islaamiyah of America
2012 Mallory Street,
San Bernardino, CA 92407, USA
Mosque are military out post for islam. Islam is not a religion! islam Is a political system wrapped around a pedophile’s plagiarized materials from several sources and from imagination during drunken stupor. Goals of the islamofascist movement, which encompasses all mullahs, al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and many others, is to promote a political ideology that seeks to subjugate all the world’s peoples, by physical force, under the supreme governing authority of islamofascist law, in every area of life and thought. The islamofascist goal is to enforce submission in body and mind—on pain of death. When considering taqiyya and kitman, one realizes that there is only one outcome between islam and infidels and that is a fight to death.
Notice now, in an election year, obama upped the special forces in iraq, after this pos let it metastisize for years. Watch the iraqi army retake mosul… right before nov,, and obama and the dems, who ruined the middle east… take credit
yes, trump for 2016…also….I could not care if it were bull
moose, rocky or twinkle star, just REMEMBER the promises
you make Mr. Pres….better keep them….your ass is not
“kick you out the door” proof…..WTP have had it up to
here with all the bs politicians spread around like purfume
in a whore house to cover up the smell of unwashed bodies..
it still STINKS…….
yea maybe..and maybe Kasich..or maybe Mr,/Ms USA….
as a team…just DO NOT MESS WITH THE BEST..the
Constitution and BofRs…..and whoever it is better remember
to keep their PROMISES….!
Trump is a showman. Don’t trust him, he changes his views pretty easily and is not prepared. He says things that are appealing but trustworthiness maters.
And this of course is your opinion, & has no validity behind it. How many times did O’boo boo change his views, wasn’t prepared,and wasn’t trust worthy?
That your comment got 60 votes makes me wonder about the mental health of those voters, considering you comment is absolute nonsense. There is no evidence whatever that these people actually shot at anybody. Who were the alleged victims,and how many of them were injured? were they treated in hospital. “It is unclear if any weapons were located in the possession of the suspects”
Under your precious 2nd amendment any resident of USA has the right to own a weapon and go go in the desert and shoot all day long. No matter what his religious affiliation. This is the worst reporting I have ever seen on PG’s page
We have to be informed on hearsay in these times and Geller gives full disclosure. Do you really think the police are going to allowed to tell the truth? That pic is clearly so cal and it’s clearly a bunch of muslims. When what is taught in their mosques is determined to be treason, then their guns rights will be removed and their teachings banned.
CNN finally covered the story, and it has glaring differences. None of the men’s faces were shown in the enemedia pics, they each have a gun in front of them, claimed all legally registered to them, except one rifle w/serial numbers scratched off. No mention of the wait, or the group that split off and hid…total fail. Now, I am beginning to become afraid of my own country.
Obviously they know they are going to be caught if they’re playing this game. so they only use clean stuff. the goal is to frighten people. they must watch TV and howl with laughter
Hearsay? Theven writer of this article had added things to the story to make it sound better I’m not saying these guys are not up to no good because I’m sure they are but to report false info to set in panic is wrong!
Well Im glad you’re not panicking. We are not panicking either. Geller makes us less panicky. You are the one who says she makes us more panicky. In fact, she carefully calibrates her tone to help the masses out there who do feel a little panicky so they feel protected as they (we) “come out”, while at the same time ensuring the bullies know we can and will bring them down.
No in fact she would be trying to add panic by adding to the story there were 2 groups when there was only 1 and adding that these men were shooting at people and that there were victims. No reason to lie about a story unless your wanting to scare people.
Why do you jump into conclusion that Pamela Geller is a liar? The news
she publishes are backed by facts, in this case she even mentioned that,
“Unable to confirm the source, I waited to post. “We will hear about
this story in the next days. I am appreciative that she keeps up with the
news, otherwise so many events would be simply hidden from our sight.
In a couple years, after the 2nd has been repealed you’ll be making posts about “Under your precious 1st amendment…” until that too has been taken away from us.
Why don’t you move to “Your precious Cuba” where you will be happy, Communist Scumbag.
No, I suspect shooting firearms in a state park violates state law in most places unless you have a hunting license in-season.
And the VC knew how to cache their weapons to avoid problems with allied forces so that these jihad is wereally found without arms is no great surprise.
But “heavy weapons” usually means something different than the way it was used in this article.
“YOUR Precious 2nd Amendment !!??You must be A Brit , A Frog, or a Hippie! I tried shooting in the West Texas desert in ’82, miles from San Angelo, Tx. A .22 short Beretta pistol. Cops were there before I shot a 6 rd. mag. ’82, And they’re much less anti-gun there.
The hikers just made up the story because they were bored, the police just found the Middle Eastern guys there accidentally, there is no evidence of shootings because to be a witness to gunshots is not a good evidence, Muslim terrorists do not shout Allahu Akbar, and in general Muslims are very quiet, peaceful guys, etc.
Drudge posted a local CBS report ….which is contradictory…. It says Sherrifs heard AllauAkbars but hikers didnt hear gun shots…. So why the calling of the cops ?
Yep! A practice Run! The purpose would be to time the Authorities and see how long it would take, before authorities would arrive on the scene. All planned!
Well, you can do the research and confirm everything to your satisfaction, then report back, huh?
freebird
7 years ago
How is the law ?
If someone shout “Allah Akbar” and I stab him in panic, is this self-defence or just an overreaction like if someone shouts “Heil Hitler” ?
Did you know Hitler loved Islam and hated Christianity?
Ben Hur
7 years ago
Hoe dare those campers disturb those fine Muslims conducting military training in the sticks. It’s also very dangerous as some of the campers could have been accidentally fired upon.
I prefer to have them all put inside a Container and put on a Cargo ship and drop off in the middle of the Ocean. That is here the Muslim or Islam belongs
..just doing some late night raccoon hunting, that’s all…
Farah Naeem AKA AJ Islamist
7 years ago
Farah is now a Loon Watch editor. She is Pakistani conspiracy
theorist Islamist, living in Riyadh with an American passport. We need to strip
these Islamists of their American citizenship.
Farah Naeem who uses the ID ‘AJ’ on Disqus. She is now a Loon Watch editor.
She is a Pakistani so called Phd (probably bought or cheated
her phd) who has an American passport, and spreads 9/11 CIA and Jewish
conspiracies. Terroist apologist Farah Naeem is married to Naeem Akhtar who is Saudi based.
They have a daughter in the USA. They all need to be kicked out.
Loon Watch’s Ilisha Recommends American Saudi Blogger Who Claims
Netanyahu and Obama Orchestrated Terror Attacks to Blame Islam
Most people in America view California as having their own country actually not wanting to go by conventional ideas and laws. California wants hidden places for criminals who enter illegally called safe harbors or something to that affect! California wants to take in refugees with hidden terror cells so its what the people vote for and want with the election results! Anything and everything goes there!
But the feel good libtards and followers of the philosophy of sacrifice will scold you for not inviting in savages.
After all:
We are all the same.
I’m not.
RobG
7 years ago
And of course California is one of those “gun free zone” states. Let ’em try that crap in Nevada, Texas, Utah, etc, and see how long it takes ’em to get dropped by concealed carriers.
InDisbelief
7 years ago
I read they released them all? So be prepared for more violence & shootings in CA.
Dick Ellis
7 years ago
ARREST FOR FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS! ILLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY!
wilypagan
7 years ago
Sounds like the bikers need to get up there and clean out our state parklands, since the authorities are so helpless. Enough of these savages.
Zundfolge
7 years ago
Not sure I’d trust news from “SuperStation95” … they may be on the level but looking through the rest of their site makes me think they’re either a kook site or a satire site or just a click-bait tabloid site and not a legitimate journalistic endeavor.
The photos look to me more like someone caught a bunch of illegal Mexicans coming across the southern desert.
peto
7 years ago
lock and load, protect your selfs, beacuse the gov wont help you, lets send those savages to hell with there false god allah
Attaboy
7 years ago
They better be executed… this is basically and act of war. They are playing war games in our desert parks now. People are dumb if they dont vote to get Trump in, he is the only one talking about how he can stop this terrorism.
Adam
7 years ago
Time for Waterboarding + to be implemented!
TRUMP 2016!!!
debra jamieson
7 years ago
where are the hikers,deport these jerks
gallowaygrumblefield
7 years ago
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) and Loretta Lynch are uninterested because there’s no “Whitey did it” angle.
Sandy Pfaff
7 years ago
LOL…these terrorists are not used to being arrested when they attack people…its a little different the the good Ole USA boyz!!!!!!!!!!
Wasn’t talking specifically to you, wanted a credible source to verify it, but love the way you seized on the opportunity to run off your mouth.
Paul Revered
7 years ago
If you see something shoot something, leave them for bear food
Dr. Doomsday
7 years ago
The police took 2 hours to find them. Why didn’t they ask them to turn on the GPS on the phone and at least give a readback of their location? DOH! Standard SAR procedures…
Pray Hard
7 years ago
If it was nothing, fine. If it wasn’t nothing, we’ll hear from them again. Reporting on this sort of thing, dangerous or not, is the only way we stay informed.
Manure.. “No terrorists found” -uh huh.. lets see when they pop up again, shooting up some mall or school yard. The fact is, they were not breaking the law, other than stupid shooting towards the people reporting it, which should have gotten some citation, but did not.
Who is “Scott Reiboldt”? Please post your drivers license numbers and picture plus one other verifiable piece of i.d.
Punk Rock Patriot
7 years ago
I live in Southern California just a couple hours drive from this spot. Not one news story about this incident at all. The local and national news are hiding this story from us!
NJK
7 years ago
Dear God, what have the politicians done.
Pray Hard
7 years ago
Just some good ole moslem boys out havin’ a little fun one moment, terror cell slaughtering Americans the next. I don’t even call the cops any longer when I hear gunfire in my city, but that doesn’t mean that I didn’t hear it.
Rocinante44
7 years ago
if the hikers and campers were california democrats, then they are getting exactly what they voted for with their muslim president. elections have consequences.
Pray Hard
7 years ago
Addressed to the whiners for Islam: Remember San Bernardino when nobody said anything? Where have all of you fake anti-Islamists come from who comment here now and who are so very concerned about Pamela’s journalistic standards?
Some of you actually believe that because the cops said they weren’t terrorists that they weren’t? How childish. What do cops ALWAYS say? And, because the cops said that no illegal activity had taken place that these guys aren’t terrorists in training? I don’t know whether they are or not and YOU don’t either. If you’re going to make excuses for moslems, well, I hate to tell you, but this isn’t the site for you. Leftist and jihadi sites sound more like your cup of tea.
San Bernardino County Sheriff'
7 years ago
The San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department has released an official news release reference this incident. Please read it in it’s entirety.
Deputies respond to the report of shots fired in the Deep Creek Hot Springs area of Apple Valley—
DATE/TIME: March 27, 2016 / 8:25am
INCIDENT: Incident
LOCATION: Deep Creek Hot Springs, Apple Valley
SUMMARY: On Sunday, March 27, 2016, at about 8:25 am, deputies from the Victor Valley Sheriff’s Station responded to reports of shots fired in the Deep Creek Hot Springs area of Apple Valley. The reporting party told the 911 operator more than 100 shots were heard and 5 to 7 subjects wearing turbans were seen in the area shooting assault rifles, handguns, and shotguns.
Due to this being a very rural location, Sheriff’s Aviation assisted to conduct an area check for the alleged shooters while patrol units from the Victor Valley Station responded. The sheriff’s helicopter arrived and located a group of males, 17 total, walking away from the creek carrying back packs and other items. Deputies from Apple Valley, Hesperia, and Victorville Police Stations also responded to assist.
Shortly after deputies arrived to the area the subjects were detained and searched. Several handguns, a rifle, and a shotgun were found during a search of the backpacks and bedding the subjects had been carrying. The subjects were very cooperative and were interviewed. A local FBI agent responded to assist with interviews. A records check of the subjects, their weapons, and their vehicles was completed. The records check revealed none of the subjects had a criminal history or outstanding warrants, the weapons were registered with the Department of Justice except for the rifle, and the vehicles were also registered.
Several hikers were contacted, but none of them witnessed the guns being fired. There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained and they were released.
Anyone with information regarding this investigation is urged to contact Deputy S. Scranton or Sergeant D. Rodriguez at (760)552-6800. Callers wishing to remain anonymous are urged to call the We-Tip Hotline at 1-800-78-CRIME (27463) or online at http://www.wetip.com.
I choose to believe eye-witness accounts over the (likely edited to suit the pc crowd) news.
Steve Remarkable
7 years ago
They are preparing. This is their commanders last year in office (Obama). They will unleash their plans on the cities that have most restrictive gun laws first. Then, after they attack, their Islamics in waiting will come out of the woodwork. Then they will try to advance to other gun-toting states…. but, it will take some time.
Chuck
7 years ago
Who makes this crap up??? LOL
Revcon
7 years ago
I actually was more attracted to the other articles at the bottom of the this web page – I see naked butts, low cut tops – more interesting, don’t you agree? Somehow this “Alluh Akbar” stuff seems contrived. Keep the pot boiling.
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