France: Hollande drops plans to strip nationality from those convicted of terror attacks

ByPamela Geller on March 30, 2016
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He shouldn’t drop these plans. He should find a way to do it. This is a war. The French citizens who are waging jihad against France only value their French nationality insofar as it enables them to kill French non-Muslims. These jihad killers aren’t “Frenchmen,” no matter what the mainstream media says. They’re members of the global umma, and the global jihad force, and that’s the only identity that matters to them,

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“Paris attacks: Hollande drops plans to strip nationality,” BBC, March 30, 2016 (thanks to Samantha):

French President Francois Hollande has dropped plans to change the constitution to strip militants convicted of terror attacks of their French nationality.

“A compromise appears out of reach,” Mr Hollande said after the two houses of parliament failed to agree the reforms.

The proposal followed November’s Paris attacks which killed 130 people.

But it ran into huge opposition and led to Justice Minister Christiane Taubira resigning in February.

France’s president outlined the changes in the aftermath of the gun and bomb attacks by Islamist militants who targeted a concert hall, a major stadium, restaurants and bars on 13 November 2015.

The plans included emergency powers to be given a new status under the constitution – which is also being abandoned – and stripping those with dual citizenship of their French nationality if they were convicted of terrorist offences.

Sole French nationals were excluded from the proposal. Under international law, governments cannot make citizens stateless.

The lower house removed the reference to dual nationality when it approved the bill, even though opponents pointed out that the proposal would create a two-tier system – it could only be applied to dual-nationality French citizens.

The upper house, the Senate, restored the original wording that had sparked the initial debate.

Constitutional changes in France need the approval of three-fifths of the combined houses of parliament.

France has been under a state of emergency since 14 November. It is currently due to expire on 26 May.

It’s a brave leader who sets out to change France’s constitution. The nation likes to date much of its identity from the revolution that created it.

Changing it would be achievement enough for a president in the flush of a political honeymoon. For President Hollande and his deeply divided Socialist Party, it’s proved a step too far.

Mr Hollande’s tough response to the November attacks brought him a brief uptick in approval. He and his prime minister have been pushing back against the left-wing of his party, in a bid to show he can deliver leadership and change.

With fractures running through both the Socialist Party and the centre-right opposition, and many French voters complaining of stasis at the heart of their political establishment, this is one defeat he could do without.

One battle too many for beleaguered Hollande

The UN Declaration on Human Rights says that if you strip a mono-national of his nationality, then he or she become nation-less.

Adopted on 10 December 1948, following a vote in which 48 nations voted in favour, none against, and eight abstained (the Soviet Union, the Soviet Republics of Ukraine and Belarus, Yugoslavia, Poland, South Africa, Czechoslovakia, and Saudi Arabia).

Contains 30 Articles designed to act as “a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations”,

Article 15:

(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality

(2) No-one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality

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  • chitowncircle

    That should be a no brainer

  • Let Me Explain

    Typical of the French response to being attacked. There is a new occupation of France underway from radical Islam and, although French citizens are being murdered, the government does not have the courage to stand strong and fight.

  • thult

    On a related issue, I have been very interested in opening a retail gun store, and I have been told that the BEST place to buy used guns is France; for the most part, they have NEVER been fired, AND they have only been dropped once!

    • Pray Hard

      Very old joke.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Very true statement.

        • Benton Marder

          It used not to be true. The French were real men once, but that was a long time ago. Napoleon had a lot of them, but he ran off and left many of them in Holy Mother Russia.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That was then, this is now. We have to deal with an unpleasant contemporary reality, not an idealized past.

  • Pray Hard

    Typical leftist cowardice. We knew he wouldn’t follow through.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    The french super zero, Cheese eating surrender monkey man, once again triumphs over liberty, equality and fraternity, retuning them back to the oblivion of multiculturalism,

  • pdxnag

    How can a citizen of the worldwide Islamic Ummah be stateless if there is a big long list of Sharia-compliant drop off locations? But of course in Islam to become an apostate is no less than a change of nationality, which contrary to the cited provisions, they consider a death penalty offense. Demand no less than apostasy from former Muslims who want to remain in a free country.

  • faraway

    Why are we continuing to accord human rights to sub-humans?

  • Crusader

    A million more into his bank account… Spineless, disgusting ‘man’!

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    Liberté, égalité, fraternité, SURRENDERte…

  • Wulf2000

    A Eurosocialist at work who looks very busy and does nothing in the long run to solve the problem but receives high praises.

  • Rocinante44

    wimpy idea. a real man would guillotine these muslim killers on the plaza in front of the Hotel de Ville, and let the blood pool there for the rats and birds to feed on. there is a precedent for this in French history. some evil dude was attached to four horses and pulled into 4 pieces on this very plaza centuries ago

  • Solipsis

    So France is surrendering to Violent Political Islam. Froggies deserve what they get.
    What goes round comes round.

    We never should have saved them form the Nazis. Nazis would be 1,000 times better than Islam and at least our leaders acknowledged them as enemies instead of inviting them in our homes.

  • Solipsis

    Freedom Fries anyone?

  • CanadaGoose1

    Same stupidity as that of our new Liberal government in Canada.

    • dad1927

      39% elected Trudeau

      • CanadaGoose1

        39.6% elected the Conservatives in 2011, 39.5% Liberals in 2015.

  • soundclick.com/globalfirm

    I think he said he wanted to destroy Isis then find a diplomatic solution.
    If I’d run I’d destroy Isis with armed drones..
    Jihadists need closed psychiatry with in depth analysis condemning Muhammad. Educate, unite, organize.

  • Dorrie

    France has NEVER been very smart when it comes to taking care of their own! America will no doubt have to step in and save their sorry butts again!

  • Janet

    Why is he doing that? Probably pressure from Muslim groups! They deserve to be stripped of their citizenship or worse! These elites need to get a backbone! Why are so many in government willing to just throw away their culture? i just don’t get it! I mean do they even teach history in school anymore? i notice that kids today don’t seem to have a clue! Not a good thing!

    • dad1927

      surrender monkey

  • Benton Marder

    Francois Hollande is a Socialist. He has received ‘guidance’ from his Central Committee or Politburo. Quod erat demonstrandum.

  • Drew the Infidel

    This can be tricky. During the Spanish Civil War of the ’30s the US used the Act of March 2, 1907 to discourage US citizens from joining the fight. A provision stated any citizen taking up arms on behalf of a foreign sovereign was grounds for stripping one of citizenship. It was tried and the Supreme Court ruled it a violation of the Eighth Amendment stricture against cruel and unusual punishment.

  • BonniePrinceCharlie

    I believe it was Churchill who referred to the French as ‘cheese-munching surrender monkeys’. Nothing’s changed.

    • Andrew

      Churchill also said “Islam to a man, is like rabies to a dog”. Nothing’s changed.

  • Stephen Honig

    Regardless of what country a Muslim resides in. They can never be called a citizen of that country, because they have absolutely no allegiance to any country, but Islam.

  • Politically Accurate

    Milquetoast Hollande is a socialist blowhard and morally bankrupt fool.

    Enough said.

  • dad1927

    so he is surrendering. He should be hanging them

  • joe1429

    This is a “No Brainer” Wake up Libtards!!!

  • iprazhm

    I have to wonder how much money western world leaders are getting to allow muslim terrorists to terrorize their citizens.