Devout Muslim Herdsmen Kill 500 Nigerian Christians Over Month; Villagers Afraid to Bury Their Dead

ByPamela Geller on March 18, 2016
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The world takes little notice of this. If the victims were Muslims, the enemedia would be full of stories of “islamofauxbia.” But the victims are Christians, so the “human rights community” has nothing to say.

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“Radical Islamist Herdsmen Kill 500 Nigerian Christians Over Month; Villagers Afraid to Bury Their Dead,” by Stoyan Zaimov, Christian Post, March 16, 2016:

Radical Muslim Fulani herdsmen in Nigeria have killed close to 500 predominantly Christian farmers in Benue state in central Nigeria in a series of attacks over the last month, and are reportedly still hiding out among villagers, making survivors too afraid to return and bury the dead.

“In the last three weeks, Aku, Odugbeho, Aila, Okokolo and Ikobi have been utterly destroyed and over 300 people have been killed,” Steven Enada, a development advocate campaigning against the killing of the Agatu people, told Morning Star News.

“We have corpses littered in the field like a war fought in the Roman Empire by Emperor Nero,” he added, with survivors too afraid to return to bury the dead.

International Christian Concern said on Tuesday that in total close to 500 people have been killed over the past month, and thousands have died in clashes since 2001.

The Fulani herdsmen launched a heavy attack against the Agatu farmers on Feb. 22, and a week later had killed over 300 people in the slaughter.

Ikwulono John Anthony, an indigene of the affected Christian communities, said that some of the attackers are still in the villages.

“I took the risk and came to Agatu together with the delegation from the presidency of Nigeria, where we visited Obagaji, Egba, Aila, Adagbo, Okokolo, Akwu, Ugboju, Odugbeho and Odejo,” he said.

“Entire villages were burned down completely by Fulani herdsmen. Unidentified corpses of these Christians were discovered, properties were looted by these Fulani invaders. As I speak to you, Fulani herdsmen are living in the deserted villages. I couldn’t believe what my eyes saw.”

Fulani leaders are apparently accusing farmers of killing up to 10,000 cows, something which the local villagers deny….

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  • Common Sense

    Savage DAESH, Their termination will follow soon.

  • Fred

    The first paragraph is so true, Ms. Geller

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  • Lapsed Altruist

    So? That ‘turn the other cheek’ crap doesn’t wash today. Fight or die. That’s that.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Turning the other cheek does not mean allowing murder for doing so.

  • Ron Cole

    We must admit that mu%%ies stick together like fresh goat droppings,
    wilst Christians fight incessantly.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Christians have been brainwashed into guilt and weakness. There is no strength in allowing violence, rape and murder. A Christian is supposed to be strong, defending the weak, not stupidly submitting to evil.

      • sodacrackers2

        Amen!

        • Mahou Shoujo

          How would Christianity ever have gotten off the ground if the first Christians were insipid milksops like todays alleged Christian leaders?

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Yeshua preached and practiced pacifism. Of course, he never had to deal w/genocidal nazis or muslums in the civilised Israel of his time.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That he most certainly did, but, considering who he was and his job description, he did stuff that those following could not nor needed to do. Suicide is not allowed, then or now.

          • Untypical Geek

            Civilized?!? You really need to read all the Gospels and read the history of the time. It was a time of agitation and violence because the Romans were in charge and the emperors were bloodthirsty and ruthless. The movie Ben Hur gives a pretty good idea of what the culture was like at the time.

          • Untypical Geek

            Have you actually read the four Gospels? All the way through? Do you know how many of the early Christians were martyred? There is uninformed and mealy-mouthed, but not fighting back is not weakness. When Peter cut off the servant’s ear in the garden, Jesus put it back on and healed him and said “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.…”

          • Mahou Shoujo

            As a matter of fact I am quite familiar with the Bible, there is no command that says to “Go forth and be stupid” if everyone was a martyr, Christianity would have died a long time ago. If you take the trouble to read the whole account of events at the garden of Gethsemane, you will be familiar with Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one”.

      • ninetyninepct

        Political correctness is destroying civilization.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          It is a major nuisance, but, people, for the most part are willing to accept it as it looks trendy, require no thought and satisfies the herd mentality that many crave.

        • Untypical Geek

          Funny you should mention that…(Political Correctness Toward Islam) https://youtu.be/11eS5IXzisY

  • Ron Cole

    Thank you once again Pamela Geller for bringing us events the enemy enema media conceals.

  • joker

    Nigeria is basically a failed state. The government is not able or willing to protect their citizens. Their oil fields yes and that also with question marks. Just let them kill each other and make sure they do not come to the Western world. On a footnote: a Christian can defend him or her self, so what is their problem?

    • movingwaters

      There are elements in the government and the military that favor Islam, and help the killers escape accountability. I am not familiar with the laws concerning private gun ownership in Nigeria. It is allowed to some extent. But these Fulani herdsman are well armed with assault weapons. Since the inception of Islam, great wealth has been obtained by raiding villages, killing, burning, stealing, etc., as I am sure everyone here well knows. Many people in the world can never even afford to buy a Bible. It must be given. How can they afford assault weapons? When your own government works in support of people who want to kill you, you have a problem.

      • sodacrackers2

        Much like the governments in the EU and America.

      • IzlamIsTyranny

        The PRESIDENT of Nigeria is a F’ING muslum.

    • ninetyninepct

      Eastern Canada buys it’s oil from Nigeria and Saudi Arabia and that means they are partially responsible for these executions and terror. They ignore it so they then approve terrorism and murder.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        It is cheaper to by oil from the mid east, africa and south america than Canadian production. Oil’s value is far higher than human lives. it makes no difference how many die or are oppressed, so long as the cost of gasoline is kept down.

        • Ron Cole

          Just love Your Capitalization Rules.

        • Ron Cole

          Just really like Your Capitalization Rules.

  • Mahou Shoujo

    And again, cowardly pious self loathing dupes sell Christianity for 30 pieces of silver. Whatever happened to Christian evangelists and missionaries? They appear to be replaced by travel agents, propaganda writers, enablers all in concert with islam’s demonic values.

  • soundclick.com/globalfirm

    What would we know without this monopole page? Governments invalidate their right to rule & collect taxes with their manipulative Dawah-propaganda-hiding of news. Instead of getting these news on TV I can’t view this page often, have to wait long & keep reloading it cause it turns into some advertising page after a short while.
    Instead of Jihading, people in Africa & everywhere should expose Muhammad’s propaganda-lies & realize his anti-African racism as he owned & traded African slaves & invented African slavery by announcing that his deity unproven deity turned Africans slaves so their descendants would be slaves to Arabs & Turks, African & slave are one word in Arabic (Abeed), who announced that out of mythological first being Adam’s left shoulder emerged blacks to perdition & whites to paradise of his right.
    Instead of letting this Jihad-terror & Sharia-tyranny happen we should start freeing African slaves enslaved by Muslims in Mauritania (25%), new north-Sudan, Saudi Arabia & elsewhere. But to do that we need a global government for human rights & ecology which the political elite &  nationalists don’t support because they seem to not regard it as important.
    There are people proclaiming that Jihadists wouldn’t be Muslims because they murder or torture Muslims, but what they don’t say is that these actions against deviators was permanently commanded by Muhammad & is permanent part of his unethical & racist education-system.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      You do realize the UN has been co-opted by muslums right? They’re practically nothing more than a rubber stamp for the OIC. If the UN has been co-opted by muslums do you think the muslums might not co-opt your global government?

      • soundclick.com/globalfirm

        If you don’t want Muhammadism to be in charge of the world you better support Globalfirm global government.
        I educate humanity about Muhammad’s propaganda deception unlike what the UN does.

  • soundclick.com/globalfirm

    & Barack Hussein Obama saisd the African Jihadists around Nigeria, Cameroon Boko Haram would have legitimate concerns.
    No, Hussein Obama, human rights activists that want to ban Muhammadism & want human rights & ecology globally have legitimate concerns.

    • sodacrackers2

      Green is the new red, don’t you know.

  • Leela Kim

    Spread the message that Islam is a religion advocating free choice / no compulsion.

    # To You Your Religion and To Me Mine (Quran Meccan Verses)

    # Proclaim: “This is the truth from your Lord,” then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve (Quran Meccan Verses)

    # NOW [as for thee, O Muhammad,] We have not sent thee otherwise than to mankind at large, to be a herald of glad tidings and a warner; but most people do not understand (Quran Meccan Verses)

    # There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in God hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break.” (Qur’an Medina Verses).

    # Those WHO BELIEVE THEN DISBELIEVE, AGAIN BELIEVE AND AGAIN DISBELIEVE, then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor guide them in the (right) way. (Quran Medina Verses)

    # But if they turn away, [O Muhammad], say, “Sufficient for me is Allah ; there is no deity except Him. On Him I have relied, and He is the Lord of the Great Throne. (Quran Medina Verses)

    # And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds, Say, “It is only revealed to me that your god is but one God; so will you be Muslims [in submission to Him]?” But if they turn away, then say, “I have announced to [all of] you equally. And I know not whether near or far is that which you are promised (Quran Meccan Verses)

    I purposefully add Meccan and Medina to counter those saying that Quran changes its tone from peaceful Medina verses to violent Meccan verses, cause it simply doesn’t.

    And i know it’s not cute to compare Quran to Bible, let alone Torah. But hey, since Trump alike have been slandering Islam to a new crazy level, i think it’s fair to show what’s on Bible and Torah

    # Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD. (Matthew 10:34)

    # I have come to set fire to the earth, and I only wish it were already burning (Luke 12:49)

    # Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. (Luke 12:51)

    # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27) (PS: In the parable of Ten Minas : Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

    # If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

    # Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

    PS:

    – Those particular verses in Torah and Bible verses was not even revealed DURING or FOR WAR CONTEXT.

    – it’s on TORAH / BIBLE which are the most sacred text/highest ruling for Christianity and Judaism

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

      Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

      Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”

      Qur’an:9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.”

      Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”

      Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

      Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”

      Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.” [Another translation says:] “pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.”

      • ninetyninepct

        Completely accurate.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Direct quote from the “terrorists handbook” or qur’an as sometimes called.

    • Jane

      Islam is a religion advocating free choice? No compulsion? Ha. They still practice slavery. In “Slave: My True Story” by Mende Nazar, she tells her harrowing story of being kidnapped by arab terrorists, and then being sold to a wealthy Arab family and then sold to another master, a Sudanese diplomat in London. It was there she escaped and found her freedom.

      Or in “A true story of Life behind the Veil in Saudi Arabia: Princess”:
      “I listened in horror as a mother laughingly dismissed the plight of her Thai maid who was raped at will by the son of the house. She said that her son needed sex and that the sanctity of Saudi women forced the family to lrovide him with his own woman. Oriental women do not care whom they go to bed with, she stated with assurance.”

      That doesn’t sound like free choice to me.

      • Leela Kim

        LOl,human aint perfect. Does KKK represent Bible? Well perhaps.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Does the kkk murder people who do not want to be members? Does the kkk demand special laws that are to be imposed on everyone? Wen was the last time you saw a kkk member holding a human head and happy about murdering a person? islam is clearly inferior to the kkk in every possible way. The kkk does not capture black people and sell themas slaves in nations they control, as islam does.
          Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, a great scholar and Islamic historian says in his book “Zad al-Ma’ad”, part 1, p160:
          “Muhammad had many male and female slaves. He used to buy and sell them, but he purchased more slaves then he sold. He once sold one black slave for two. His purchases of slaves were more than he sold.”
          “Muhammad had a number of black slaves. One of them was named ‘Mahran’. Muhammad forced him to do more labor than the average man. Whenever Muhammad went on a trip and he, or his people, got tired of carrying their stuff, he made Mahran carry it. Mahran said “Even if I were already carrying the load of 6 or 7 donkeys while we were on a journey, anyone who felt weak would throw his clothes or his shield or his sword on me so I would carry that, a heavy load”. Tabari and Jawziyya both record this, so Islam accepts this as true.”
          Ali, who was Muhammad’s son-in-law, whipped Aisha’s slave in front of Muhammad to make her talk about the adultery charges against Aisha. Muhammad did not say a word to Ali about beating the female slave. [From the Sirat Rasulallah, p496.]
          In the Sirat Rasulallah, Muhammad massacred 800 males and took their women and children as slaves. He kept at least one Jewish female named Rayhana as his concubine, and gave the rest away to the Muslims. The Sirat says (p466) “Then the apostle divided the property, wives, and children of Banu Qurayza among the Muslims….
          and
          “Then the apostle sent Sa’d Zayd brother of Ashhal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horse and weapons.”
          One thing for certain: MUHAMMAD WAS A SLAVER. The names of many of Muhammad’s slaves are detailed in Muslim writings and they can be found in “Behind the Veil”.
          Some Muslims claim that slaves under Islam were always treated fairly and kindly, and that slaves in the West were always treated like “chattel”. The fact is that the real treatment slaves in both the west and under Islam has varied. Some slaves were treated fairly, others were treated brutally. Both the Quran and New Testament command masters to treat slaves fairly. Compare Ephesians 6:9 with Sura 4:36. Both are similar. However, the New Testament condemns slave trading in 1 Tim 1:10 (m

          • Leela Kim

            Have you ever read slave verses in Bible. Wanna bet?

          • Leela Kim

            ## Narrated Al-Ma’rur: At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, “I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names.” The Prophet said to me, ‘O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.’ ”

            ## Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) – (another narrator) Dawud said:” i. e. a morsel or two”. 4097. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)”

            ## Worship Allah; join nothing with Him. Be good to your parents, to relatives, to orphans, to the needy, to neighbours near and far, to travellers in need and those whom your right hands possess. Allah does not like arrogant, boastful people.” [Q 4:36]

            ## Fear Allah in regards of those whom your right hands possess. They are your brothers whom Allah placed under your hands (authority). Feed them with what you eat, clothe them with what you wear and do not impose duties upon them which will overcome them. If you so impose duties, then assist them.” [Muslim]

            You see cho chang. I bet miliions of worker in China would want to be these kind of slave. For they will wear their boss wear. Eat what their boss eat. Even being like a brother to their boss.

            Don’t you wanna be treat this good ling ling?

            You see, in Islam slave should be treated good, just like parents, relatives, orphans, the needy, neighbours, and travellers.

            Buut Too bad for miserable Chinese workers, this dreamy positions are discouraged. Because eventually everyone should be free. Free like a bird. lol.

            The Prophet said, “Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom).” (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)”

            So, how bout slavery in Bible anyway????

            Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:

            If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

            Colossians, chapter 3, verse 22:

            Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever your task, work heartily…

            Titus 2:9 ►

            Slaves are to be submissive to their masters in everything, and to be well-pleasing, not talking back

            Ephesians 6:5

            Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

            Ephesians 6:5

            Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

            Quran & Hadith teach masters to treat their slaves so good just like their parents – and encourage to release them.

            Bible teaches slaves to obey their masters as God.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Still trying to divert from the atrocities of islam. Why is islam too weak to defend its teachings against itself? Any Hindu makes every muslim look like a fool.

          • Leela Kim

            See, this is why i call you utmost stupid of all. I gave you verses from Quran and Bible and here what you can give me. Bunch of stupid comment from a stupid person? Why are you so stupid, stupid?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Because your loaded bigoted cherry picked questions are not worth of the time it take to give an intelligent answer, as you have shown no ability to understand anything, including your qur’an.

          • Leela Kim

            Listen, stupid, that’s simply just because you are stupid and unable to give intelligent answer. Or because Bible is shameful. Or because the combination of both. Focus stupid , focus, do your best to bring Biblical verses to support your claim that Christianity opposes slavery. How can you be so stupid screaming like maniac without knowing your own book, stupid?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Your total lack of understanding, or even the ability to read is very questionable, until you are capable of rational and semi logical thought, you are a waste of feminine hygiene products.

          • Leela Kim

            Muslims had so Quran / hadith for those mocking their religion out of their stupidity. Like you. But Christian can’t bring anything if someone questions their Bible. They just blabber like a stupid meat. Bring your Bible verses not your dead brain, stupid.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            O, now miss la de da muslim thinks she can read. You are right about one thing, in hot weather I am “uncovered meat” . Sure beats wearing a burka. To get back to the bible, your quotes from it are not from a recognized traceable translation, sounds very much like a sloppily written translation by a bunch of semi retarded kids in some madrassa for little idiots

          • Leela Kim

            Lol, are we going to play your stupid opinion game or are we going to have Bible verses to support you? I really want to give you verses in Bible about head covering. They are hilarious. But you are so stupid and slow. So if you can bring verses in Bible to support your claim about slavery, we’ll move on to the next issue. Can you stupid bring those verses. Or are you just another loud-mouth-empty-headed red neck?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Look schnook, you are the one bleating and braying the joys of islam, so why are you constantly quoting the Bible? If you are trying to convince others of the value of the qur’an, start babbling its insanity. No one will accept the qur’an based on your absurd ramblings about other books. Focus deary, you are ditzy as blonde dervish.

          • Leela Kim

            Not red neck actually. Perhaps you are those “born-again” sea immigrant who knows nothing about Bible

          • Mahou Shoujo

            For staters, you are incapable of defending the subhuman demonic violence of islam, so, you attempt to tear down Christianity. Very sloppy job. Before you can discuss the Bible, you will have to read an actual approved Christian translation, not the mindless drivel of the islamic department of lying propaganda. Now, for a change, lets see you defend islam. Staring with the brussels bombers, define how that fits into islamic thrology. Here, I’ll start you off…Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…
            but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.
            The bombers are following islam, do you think they will stop if everyone becomes a muslim? Do you think any sane person would join a cult founded on the violent deaths of humanity? Are you a fool?

          • Leela Kim

            So, i hope know, you already know the concept of cause and effect right? You know CAUSE? C A U S E . Ring the bell?

            I mean, what would you do if someone fight you? Give your right cheek? Then by all means, Pentagon should be demolished – for there are no such thing as defensive. Let alone offensive. All you have to do when being attack is ask for more. Masochist, much, eh? On Bible eyes, Pentagon is ANTI-CHRIST.

            Really kiling all NON-MUSLIMS? Are you crazy or what?

            If you think Quran ordering to kill all non muslims, then you are just as wicked as those terrorist.

            Then why Quran/Hadith speak like this

            # And there are, certainly, among Jews and Christians, those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God. They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord (3:199).

            And you know cutie pie -> It’s MEDINA verse. Yeah i know, Robert Spencer has brainwashed you that MEDINA VERSE should be violent right???

            And why would Prophet Muhammad protect, trade, all those non-believer who doesn’t fight first??

            # Whoever kills a person who has a truce with the Muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise.” (Saheeh Muslim)

            # Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.” (Abu Dawud)

            # When we were with Ibrahim, we talked about mortgaging in deals of Salam. Ibrahim narrated from Aswad that ‘Aisha had said, “The Prophet bought some foodstuff on credit from a Jew and mortgaged an iron armor to him.” (Muslim)

            # When my father died he owed a Jew thirty Awsuq (of dates). I requested him to give me respite for repaying but he refused. I requested Allah’s Apostle to intercede with the Jew. Allah’s Apostle went to the Jew and asked him to accept the fruits of my trees in place of the debt but the Jew refused. Allah’s Apostle entered the garden of the date-palms, wandering among the trees and ordered me (saying), “Pluck (the fruits) and give him his due.” So, I plucked the fruits for him after the departure of Allah’s Apostle and gave his thirty Awsuq, and still had seventeen Awsuq extra for myself. Jabir said: I went to Allah’s Apostle to inform of what had happened, but found him praying the ‘Asr prayer. After the prayer I told him about the extra fruits which remained. Allah’s Apostle told me to inform (Umar) Ibn Al-Khatab about it. When I went to ‘Umar and told him about it, ‘Umar said, “When Allah’s Apostle walked in your garden, I was sure that Allah would definitely bless it.” (Muslim)

            # A funeral procession once passed in front of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he stood up out of respect. When he was told the person in the coffin was Jewish and not Muslim, he said: “Was it not a living (soul)?” (Hadith)

            # No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew (Charter of Medina)

            # The Jews must bear their expenses and the Muslims their expenses. Each must help the other against anyone who attacks the people of this document. They must seek mutual advice and consultation, and loyalty is a protection against treachery. A man is not liable for his ally’s misdeeds. The wronged must be helped. (Charter of Medina)

            — So is that why is that so? Why Muslims can’t non Muslims although you, chang hong want them to do so —

            # You shall not kill any person – for GOD has made life sacred (17:78)

            # Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory.–> [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished MONASTERIES, CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND MOSQUES in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. (22:39)

            So how about those unbeliever who doesn’t fight you??

            # Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them KINDNESS and deal with them JUSTLY; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you, with regard to those WHO FIGHT YOU for (your) Faith, AND DRIVE YOU OUT of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong. (60:8)

            So chang hong, next time do your homework. Perhaps you are confused between Bible and Quran.

            # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27)

            # If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

            # But I warn you–unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

            # The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

            So yeah Chang hong. DO you homework. And if you call yourself Jesus follower (instead of Paul), follow Torah / Old Testament!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            All islam is, is terror on outsiders and terror on those in islam to keep them from leaving. No matter what aspect of life in islam, it is governed by fear, and violence. Your continuing to waste time and space rationalizing its total failure towards its victims is ludicrous, there are some crimes, islam being one of them, for which there is no defence. Try and get my name straight, you are even a failure at addressing me, which is no surprise as you are a failure in everything you do. And for the sake of your demon, pisss be upon him, get the old and new Testaments straight. Admittedly the qur’an is a random sequence of insane ravings, but that does not mean every book is.
            Tell me, with reference to the following quotes from muhammad, why muslims do not follow the profit, police beat upon him, and his superficially reasonable comments.
            My Favorite QuotesProphet Muhammad Quotes
            Prophet Muhammad – “If anyone guarantees me that he will not beg from people, I will guarantee him paradise.”
            Prophet Muhammad – “If anyone removes (one of the) anxieties of this world from a believer, God will remove (one of the) anxieties from him on the Day of Resurrection if one smoothes the way for one who is destitute, God will smooth the way for him in this world and the next and if anyone conceals the faults of a Muslim, God will conceal his faults in this world and the next. God helps a man as long as he helps his brother. If anyone pursues a path in search of knowledge God will thereby make easy for him a path to paradise.”
            Prophet Muhammad – “When one of you becomes angry while standing, he should sit down. If the anger leaves him, well and good otherwise he should lie down.”
            Prophet Muhammad – “People will not sit remembering God without the angels surrounding them, mercy covering them, peace descending on them.”
            Prophet Muhammad – “Do not consider any act of kindness insignificant, even meeting your brother with a cheerful face.”
            Prophet Muhammad – “Act kindly towards women, for they were created from a rib and the most crooked part of the rib is its top. If you attempt to straighten it you will break it, if you leave it alone it will remain crooked so act kindly towards women.”
            Tell me, why are women stoned, not believed, not valued and treated wore than farm animals, why do muslims beg in every country in europe?

          • Leela Kim

            See this is why you are so crazed and irrelevant. You spew some topics, like slavery and taqiya, and when confronted with such issues you run with another. Are you crazy or what?

            Okay so you post about hadith for whatever bizarre intention you have in mind – and ask why Muslims why don’t do it.

            Well, there are Muslims who do it. Do you check the entire 1,5 billion muslim or so?

            Cause no matter how hard you try to paint it —

            >> Quran / hadith is relatively easy to follow

            >> than the oh-so-gruesome Torah with sabbath death penalty and the order to kill brother or son or daughter who follow another religion,

            >> or weird Bible, (Selling all possession, hating father/mother, drinking poison, gouging eyes, self-hand-chopping, no defend at all, women should be bald for not covering their hair, women should obey husband like some kind of God, slave should obey master like some kind of God, plus all Christians they should follow and DO the Torah too – even better than teacher of Moses Law!! That’s right all those awful Leviticus law should be practiced by Christians)

            So if you ask why S O M E (read: small percentage) Muslims don’t follow “If anyone guarantees me that he will not beg from people, I will guarantee him paradise.” – for there are also beggars in Muslim nations,

            i ask you back why A L L (read: 100 % percent) Christians don’t follow “If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also” for they will hit back if they are hit, for all CHRISTIANS NATION have military arsenal in their country. For all every Christians support military arsenal existence in their country – either to defend or to offend. Are the Christians now are all anti-Christ for following their rational human nature??

          • Leela Kim

            C’mon be a joker and give me your patented stupid answer. C’mon rover, do the trick. C’mon now. Chop Chop

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Awww you poor dear, wazzap” The old man out with the goat, leaving you all to your own devices? “Chop chop” is all muslims can think about? Really, your fixation with decapitation indicates a deep rooted criminal psychosis. Good thing you are the life support of a vagina, as otherwise you would serve no purpose at all.

          • Leela Kim

            Lol, Stupid as always. Can’t bring even Biblical verses. Too stupid to be true. Just another loud-mouthed brainwashed creature. Hardly academic. Very stupid

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Try again, poorly written no validation not even emotional, total lack of creativity, another dismal failure for you.

          • Leela Kim

            If your brain is not dead, you should at least see the verses.

            So, instead of starting with 2:19

            You should see 2:18. OMG. It’s not that FAR!!! Ding Ding Ding! (That’s why you and Pammy are hilarious)

            Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors (Quran 2:18)

            So, i hope know, you already know the concept of cause and effect right? You know CAUSE? C A U S E . Ring the bell?

            I mean, what would you do if someone fight you? Give your right cheek? Then by all means, Pentagon should be demolished – for there are no such thing as defensive. Let alone offensive. All you have to do when being attack is ask for more. Masochist, much, eh? On Bible eyes, Pentagon is ANTI-CHRIST.

            Really kiling all NON-MUSLIMS? Are you crazy or what?

            If you think Quran ordering to kill all non muslims, then you are just as wicked as those terrorist.

            Then why Quran/Hadith speak like this

            # And there are, certainly, among Jews and Christians, those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God. They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord (3:199).

            And you know cutie pie -> It’s MEDINA verse. Yeah i know, Robert Spencer has brainwashed you that MEDINA VERSE should be violent right???

            And why would Prophet Muhammad protect, trade, all those non-believer who doesn’t fight first??

            # Whoever kills a person who has a truce with the Muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise.” (Saheeh Muslim)

            # Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.” (Abu Dawud)

            # When we were with Ibrahim, we talked about mortgaging in deals of Salam. Ibrahim narrated from Aswad that ‘Aisha had said, “The Prophet bought some foodstuff on credit from a Jew and mortgaged an iron armor to him.” (Muslim)

            # When my father died he owed a Jew thirty Awsuq (of dates). I requested him to give me respite for repaying but he refused. I requested Allah’s Apostle to intercede with the Jew. Allah’s Apostle went to the Jew and asked him to accept the fruits of my trees in place of the debt but the Jew refused. Allah’s Apostle entered the garden of the date-palms, wandering among the trees and ordered me (saying), “Pluck (the fruits) and give him his due.” So, I plucked the fruits for him after the departure of Allah’s Apostle and gave his thirty Awsuq, and still had seventeen Awsuq extra for myself. Jabir said: I went to Allah’s Apostle to inform of what had happened, but found him praying the ‘Asr prayer. After the prayer I told him about the extra fruits which remained. Allah’s Apostle told me to inform (Umar) Ibn Al-Khatab about it. When I went to ‘Umar and told him about it, ‘Umar said, “When Allah’s Apostle walked in your garden, I was sure that Allah would definitely bless it.” (Muslim)

            # A funeral procession once passed in front of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he stood up out of respect. When he was told the person in the coffin was Jewish and not Muslim, he said: “Was it not a living (soul)?” (Hadith)

            # No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew (Charter of Medina)

            # The Jews must bear their expenses and the Muslims their expenses. Each must help the other against anyone who attacks the people of this document. They must seek mutual advice and consultation, and loyalty is a protection against treachery. A man is not liable for his ally’s misdeeds. The wronged must be helped. (Charter of Medina)

            — So is that why is that so? Why Muslims can’t non Muslims although you, chang hong want them to do so —

            # You shall not kill any person – for GOD has made life sacred (17:78)

            # Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory.–> [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished MONASTERIES, CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND MOSQUES in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. (22:39)

            So how about those unbeliever who doesn’t fight you??

            # Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them KINDNESS and deal with them JUSTLY; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you, with regard to those WHO FIGHT YOU for (your) Faith, AND DRIVE YOU OUT of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong. (60:8)

            So chang hong, next time do your homework. Perhaps you are confused between Bible and Quran.

            # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27)

            # If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

            # But I warn you–unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

            # The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

            So yeah Chang hong. DO you homework. And if you call yourself Jesus follower, follow Torah / Old Testament!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Time for a recap, the qur’an says all sorts of things, of which if followed would give the illusion of religion. However the subhuman murders and other exploits of islam belie the fact that it has anything to do with peace. You keep misquoting Christianity and going in circles about islam, it is actually rather funny. Try and get this into your very muddled brain, What muslims do in the name of islam, is islam. Islam is a criminally insane cult of violent rapists, thieves and murderers, as is clearly documented every day. islam is, what muslims do. That dear dimwit, is how it is.

          • Leela Kim

            LOL LOL LOL. You are somekind of pathethic aren’t cha?

            When i give you answer as long as Obama speech (lol) and that you can come up with . Nothing but sleazy personal opinion .. “You keep misquoting Christianity and going in circles about islam”. Low-level two-bit crazy people like you are actually funny, but strangely i need someone as annoying and as stupid like you, you know to irk me a bit, when i’m occasionally pretty lazy to do my homework. So thank you low level crazy christian creature.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You dismal needy tilth , really, work on your self esteem, even though islam does not allow women to have it. “Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will.” (2.223) (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 51)

          • Leela Kim

            Tilth -> cultivation of land; tillage.

            the condition of tilled soil, especially in respect to suitability for sowing seeds.

            “he could determine whether the soil was of the right tilth”

            prepared surface soil. -> Try again, stupid.

            Btw you are Stupid as always. Can’t bring even Biblical verses. Too stupid to be true. Just another loud-mouthed brainwashed creature. Hardly academic. Very stupid

          • Mahou Shoujo

            As usual you clearly demonstrate a total unfamiliarity with islam, more specifically the qur’an. Here is a quote, have some man explain it to you.

            Arabic نِسَاؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُوا حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّىٰ شِئْتُمْ وَقَدِّمُوا لِأَنفُسِكُمْ وَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّكُم مُّلَاقُوهُ وَبَشِّرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ zoom

            Transliteration Nisaokum harthun lakum fa/too harthakum anna shi/tum waqaddimoo li-anfusikum waittaqoo Allaha waiAAlamoo annakum mulaqoohu wabashshiri almu/mineena zoom

            Literal

            (Word by Word) Your wives (are) a tilth for you, so come (to) your tilth when you wish, and send forth (good deeds) for yourselves. And be conscious (of) Allah and know that you (will) meet Him. And give glad tidings (to) the believers.

    • ninetyninepct

      Bullsht.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      You know less of islam, than you do of Christianity or Judaism.

  • Leela Kim

    And here is moral question for all of us who loves and admire Jesus dearly.

    Ask ourselves, If Jesus were God, did he really say this: ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

    Ask ourselves, If Jesus were God, did he really say this: ~ Then I heard the Lord say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! 6 Kill them all—old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the Lord commanded. “Fill its courtyards with corpses. Go!” So they went and began killing throughout the city. (Ezekiel 9 (5-7)

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Quran (2:191-193) – “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…

      but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.

      Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

      Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

      Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).

      Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.

      The holiest book of Islam (61% of which is about non-Muslims) draws the sharpest of distinctions between Muslims (the best of people, 3:110) and non-believers (the worst of creatures, 98:6). Praise is lavished on the former while the latter is condemned with scorching generalization.

      Far from teaching universal love, the Quran incessantly preaches the inferiority of non-Muslims, even comparing them to vile animals and gloating over Allah’s hatred of them and his dark plans for their eternal torture. Muslims are told that they are destined to dominate non-believers, against whom harsh treatment is encouraged.

      Polished Muslim pundits in the West are fond of using the word ‘bigot’ to describe critics of Islam, but they are rarely challenged on their own view of the Quran. What does the book they claim to be the literal and eternal word of Allah really say about non-Muslims?

      The Quran Distinguishes Muslims from Non-Muslims

      and Establishes a Hierarchy of Relative Worth

      The Quran makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers:

      The Believers are but a single Brotherhood (49:10)

      Not all men are equal under Islam. Slaves and the handicapped are not equal to healthy free men, for example (16:75-76). The Quran introduces the “Law of Equality,” which establishes different levels of human value when considering certain matters, such as restitution for murder (2:178).

      Neither are Muslim believers equal to non-Muslims:

      Are those who know equal to those who know not? (39:09)

      Is the blind equal to the one who sees” Or darkness equal to light? (13:16)

      A believing slave is superior to an unbeliever (2:221)

      The Quran plainly tells Muslims that they are a favored race, while those of other religions are “perverted transgressors”:

      Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book [Christians and Jews] had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)

      As we shall see later, Allah condemns non-Muslims to Hell based merely on their unbelief, while believers are rewarded with the finest earthly comforts in the hereafter, including never-ending food, wine and sex (56:12-40).

      Much of the Quran is devoted to distinguishing Muslims from non-Muslims and impugning the latter. Among other things, non-Muslims are said to be diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171) and deceitful (3:73).

      The first sura of the Quran is a short prayer that is repeated by devout Muslims each day and ends with these words:

      Keep us on the right path. The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors. Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down, nor of those who go astray. (1:6-7)

      Muhammad was once asked if this pertained to Jews and Christians. His response was, “Whom else?” (Bukhari 56:662).Since Allah makes such a strong distinction between Muslims and those outside the faith, it is only natural that Muslims should incorporate disparate standards of treatment into their daily lives. The Quran tells Muslims to be compassionate with one another but ruthless to the infidel:

      • Leela Kim

        Answer it with Y / N chong chang.

        Ask ourselves, If Jesus were God, did he really say this: ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

        Ask ourselves, If Jesus were God, did he really say this: ~ Then I heard the Lord say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! 6 Kill them all—old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the Lord commanded. “Fill its courtyards with corpses. Go!” So they went and began killing throughout the city. (Ezekiel 9 (5-7)

        • ninetyninepct

          That was said 2 thousand years ago, unlike Muslims who rape, murder, kill, torture, execute and act with extreme violence today, this very minute. Why does Islam want to remain in the dark ages?

          What a horrible cult – if humans don’t think and act like Muslims demand they act they must be killed.

          • Leela Kim

            Not so long ago? Hitler. Not so long ago. Iraqi illegal war

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Muslims are law abiding? Where, and when did that ever happen?

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Quit playing with the dim sum, it’s not polite to play with your food….ask what my one condition is..

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Ok… The ball is in your court.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            The condition is that you pinky swear to tell me when…

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That is not what the condition is. Now get out there, someone is waiting for you,

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Still waiting…forgot the add meds today?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            No, just took them, you have all the time it takes to fulfill the request.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            My requirements is that you pinky swear the minute you fall in love with me….no waiting!!! Yaya I know your next 3 responses so just swear..save some time so you can go back to beating up dumpling!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Already have one, such as it is, can only handle one at a time.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Pinky swear

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter if it never happens…pinky swear!

          • BrunoPBuhr

            You ate tweety bird and burped after..he is already a dead man crawling..pinky promise!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            He is not dead, but will be a while recovering.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Just pinky promise

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Not while he is alive.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Are you married?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Not at the present.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I’m a one on one woman guy myself…no tricks…no expectations just a pinky promise, if the unimaginable unbelievable incredible long shot happens…you pinky swear to tell me immediately. Simple

          • Mahou Shoujo

            In the mean time you have lots to do. For now, I am currently spending the afternoon appreciating the weekend with considerable desire for a few more hours, but happy that it was time to stop, while still wanting more.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Just promise and I wont bring it up again

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nope, when I am ready to change conditions, I will change them.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Just asked to know…ok never mind..too scary to pinky…so am I…moving on subject closed, next…

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I accept that sweet Sylph Mahou Onna-bugeisha -ren! I will not breach the subject again. Have a wonderful evening, you are always in my prayers!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            How about we discuss isis while the subject of illegal war is up?

          • Leela Kim

            And in the future # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27) (PS: In the parable of Ten Minas : Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Quran (17:16) – “And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction.” Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is “utter destruction.” (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

            Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son. [Note: This parable along with verse 58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).]

          • Leela Kim

            So yeah, God can give natural disaster such as Noah flood (which btw is LOCAL, unlike Bible who said it’s UNIVERSAL – all living, breathing creatures on earth). And eh, Osama ain’t God who can gave natural disaster. Try again cutie-poo.

            And oh, at least we don’t mix God and human. So we wouldn’t think a presumably cute, gorgeous, long haired guy killed all living, breathing creatures on earth. Or We wouldn’t think a presumably cute, gorgeous, long haired guy ordered Moses to slaughter babies, kids, or women.

            That would be super weird sister!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Sweety, you are wasting so much time trying to convince others that the qur’an is right because it says it is. For a muslim woman, you give considerable credulence that, like muhannad, police beat upon him, is right when he describes women as a man’s “tillage” . You don’t need anyone else to kill for you, muslims are very good at killing each other and everyone else, as the media show. Really deary, try to understand the “islam is as muslims do” Recent events in Brussels once again validate muslims need no supernatural assistance to kill women, children or babies.

          • Leela Kim

            Lol, Stupid as always. Can’t bring even Biblical verses. Too stupid to be true. Just another loud-mouthed brainwashed creature. Hardly academic. Very stupid.

          • Ron Cole

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2b71c3b47a7080918266c68ce62b8cafd4114d9939abfffebe2fb0fef05d922f.jpg Mam we now have the precise coordinates.
            Just give the order and we’ll nuke em` back into the stone age.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Hold you fire until you see the whites of their beady eyes. Like the bug bomb commercial, “one shot cures all” make the first one the only one necessary.

          • Leela Kim

            Beautiful war ethic in the Bible:

            Even during war (after being attacked and driven out) Muslims should be just and fair.

            # If they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them (Quran)

            # But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things. (Quran)

            # And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you (O Muhammad), grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know. (Quran)

            # And they (the righteous) give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the CAPTIVES [Saying], “We feed you only for the countenance of Allah . We do not wish from you reward or thanks. (Quran)

            # Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them; and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them; but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them; and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them” (Prophet Muhammad)

            # Do not say to one who offers you peace, “You are not a believer,” seeking the spoils of this world. For GOD possesses infinite spoils. Remember that you used to be like them, and GOD blessed you. (Quran)

            More War Ethic in Islam

            # Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)

            # Do not practice treachery or mutilation. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food.” (Al-Muwatta)

            # If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam.” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

            # Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)

            # Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle.” (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)

            # Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy; pray to God to grant you security; but when you [are forced to] encounter them, exercise patience.” (Sahih Muslim)

            # No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).

            # Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

            # Messenger of Allah, If I encountered a person amongst the infidels (in the battlefield) and he attacked me and struck me and cut off one of my hands with the sword. Then he (in order to protect himself from me) took shelter of a tree and said: I become Muslim for Allah’s sake. Messenger of Allah, can I kill him after he had uttered this? The Messenger of Allah said: Do not kill him. I (the narrator) said: Messenger of Allah, he cut off my hand and uttered this after amputating it; should I then kill him? The Messenger of Allah said: Don’t kill him, for I you kill him, verily he would be in a position where you had been before killing him and verily you would be in a position where he had been before uttering (kalima). (Hadith)

            # I caught hold of a man and he said: There is no god but Allah, I attacked him with a spear. It once occurred to me and I talked about it to the Apostle (may peace be upon him). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Did he profess” There is no god but Allah,” and even then you killed him? I said: Messenger of Allah, he made a profession of it out of the fear of the weapon. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Did you tear his heart in order to find out whether it had professed or not? And he went on repeating it to me till I wished I had embraced Islam that day (Hadith)

          • Leela Kim

            ‘Evil’ war verses in Quram

            ~ Now therefore kill every boy, and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse with a man. But all the young women who have not had sexual intercourse with a man will be yours. (NUMBERS 31)

            ~ Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

            ~ Kill this man’s children! Let them die because of their father’s sins! They must not rise and conquer the earth, filling the world with their cities. (Isaiah 14:21 )

            ~ Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

            ~ This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

            ~ They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

            ~ Every one that shall be found, shall be slain: and every one that shall come to their aid, shall fall by the sword. Their children will be smashed to pieces before their very eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives raped. (Isaiah 13:16)

            ~ Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction”.(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

            ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

            ~ When you come near to a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace to it. It shall be, if it gives you a reply of peace and opens to you, then it must be that all the people that are found within shall become SLAVES to you and they shall serve you. If it will not make peace with you but makes war against you,, you are to slay every male there with the edge of the sword. But the women, and the little ones, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all the spoil within, you are to take to yourself, and you will eat the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (MEV))

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

            Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Why do you try and validate islam by trying to cherry pick Christianity? Is islam so weak and feeble that it cannot be supported in a discussion of islam using islam as a reference, then finding validation form other sources? As a female apologist for islam, you are very inferior, women should not display ignorance, now go learn something then come back and discuss islam, being prepared to explain the contradictions and abrogations thereof.
          Chapter Name:Al-Anfal Verse No:67
          008:067 Khan
          It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.

          • Leela Kim

            Why do you try and validate Christianity by trying to cherry pick Islam? Is Christianity so weak and feeble that it cannot be supported in a discussion of Christianity using Christianity as a reference, then finding validation form other sources? As a female apologist for Christianity, you are very inferior, women should not display ignorance, now go learn something then come back and discuss Christianity, being prepared to explain the contradictions and abrogations thereof.

          • Leela Kim

            Why would Jesus – if he were God – order these?

            ~ Now therefore kill every boy, and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse with a man. But all the young women who have not had sexual intercourse with a man will be yours. (NUMBERS 31)

            ~ Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

            ~ Kill this man’s children! Let them die because of their father’s sins! They must not rise and conquer the earth, filling the world with their cities. (Isaiah 14:21 )

            ~ Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

            ~ This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

            ~ They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

            ~ Every one that shall be found, shall be slain: and every one that shall come to their aid, shall fall by the sword. Their children will be smashed to pieces before their very eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives raped. (Isaiah 13:16)

            ~ Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction”.(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

            ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

            ~ When you come near to a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace to it. It shall be, if it gives you a reply of peace and opens to you, then it must be that all the people that are found within shall become SLAVES to you and they shall serve you. If it will not make peace with you but makes war against you,, you are to slay every male there with the edge of the sword. But the women, and the little ones, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all the spoil within, you are to take to yourself, and you will eat the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (MEV))

            ~ I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You are not very good at cutting and pasting, which is understandable for one reason, you have no skill in logic or reason, the man telling you what to say is stupider than you. As a muslim, you are trained to be a brainless mimic of a long dead tool of evil, you do an inferior job of it.

          • Leela Kim

            You can’t even bring ONE VERSES from bible. Shame? Shame of Bible? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-slAgzJmdU All you can post is your stupid emotional opinion. You are a sad self-proclaimed Christian.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You are not smart enough to judge much of anything, here’s one, please explain which of the abrogated phrases in the qur’an are considered correct and legitimate islamic guidance? As you ay I have never quoted one verse from the bible, that is a clear indication that you are not reading my replies and are totally unfamiliar with the bible. Typical brain dead screaming ignorant muslim.

          • Leela Kim

            See, still blabbering for you can’t even bring one Bible verse to back up your accusation. So sad and pathetic. Focus, stupid, Focus. Bring verses in Bible that oppose modern day slavery.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You would’t recognize a legitimate Bible verse if you heard it. But here try this one on for size “Thou shalt not bear false witness” now sweetie, where is that quote from, and what does it mean? Compare it to the islamic tenets of Taqiyya…Kitman…Tawriya…Muruna…Taysir…Darura.
            How well do you know the qyr’an, what is the reference in it where muhammud, police beat upon him, admonishes the faithful to stop having fun and concentrate on their prayers?

          • Leela Kim

            No need to add you would not understand bla,bla, stupid. That would make you look even more stupid -not fancier. Believe me, we have people like you for breakfast. But here we go i’m glad you could now quote one or two Bible verses. Cause your opinion is worthless, useless, and cheap. But i put credit on someone who have refferences to their saying, that includes Bible.

            About Taqiya eh, well, In Quran, i think lying indeed permissible under life-death situation.

            Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief… except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;

            So, now what the Bible says about lying?

            ~ The Lord said, ‘Who will persuade Ahab so that he will go up and die at Ramoth Gilead?’ “And one said this, and another said that. 21 Then a spirit came forth and stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will persuade him.’ 22 “The Lord said to him, ‘How?’ “And he said, ‘I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ “And He said, ‘You will be successful and persuade him. Go forth, and do so.’

            And let’s not forget about Paul. Boy this, guy loves to lie and play charade.

            ~ And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them under the Law, that I might gain them that are under the Law;

            ~ For if the truth of God, hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory: why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

            Got anything to backup your claim? Biblical verses of course. Your opinion is worthless.

            So, here is a little note. Before you slander someone’s religion, better check your own. Do your homework. And believe me, adding .. “but you would not understand if i quote Bible bla,bla” that only make you look even more stupid -not fancier.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You still don’t grasp the concept that you cannot make converts by trashing Christianity, your circular straw man and incredibly retarded arguments are priceless, you are the best of all possible examples of why only fools convert to islam. ” Believe me, we have people like you for breakfast”. Well then, have one of them reply for you as so far you have gagged on every swallow you have attempted. All you are good at pertaining to cannibalism is swallowing islamic sausage with special sauce.

          • Leela Kim

            All you are good at is just replying something with your opinion. First you smear Islam with slavery. And i bring you verses in Quran and Bible about slavery. And you just frozen like a stupid pile of sh.
            And you now bring verses about Taqiya. And i bring you verses in Quran and Bible about ‘Taqiya’. And you just frozen like a stupid pile of sh. You are just a joke. Have i said to you that your opinion is worthless? But i can give you credit if you bring your opinion backed up by Bible verses. Too bad you can’t do that. Too add to your humiliation for being unable bringing Biblical verse – you would only say ” but..but…but… you would not understand…” It’s like someone crippled saying, i can run 70mph but i would not do that cause you would not believe. Are you stupid or what? And sister, why would i try to convert you to Islam. Islam is only for human. Human with working brain. Not sure you are qualified to be on that category.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            To discuss anything with you, you would have to be slightly familiar with the reference material. So far you have shown no understanding of the qur’an or the Bible. So far everything I have tried to tell you has eluded your nonexistent grasp. If you are a typical muslim, which I doubt, as you are far less intelligent that the few muslims I do know, I would never associate with anything that clueless. Tell me, who waters and turns you towards the light every now and again?

          • BrunoPBuhr

            She has irritable bowel syndrome so…..

          • Mahou Shoujo

            What she needs is to be treated better than her significant other’s goat. The unfortunate wench is dripping with frustration and rage., and a bit of outright stupidity.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            You are right…the brutally of their belief system and their seeming willingness to submit to evil makes it hard to see how they are victimized by each other.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The mandatory violence to preserve the integrity of islam is what holds it back it will always be subhuman and primitive for the violence alone, the lies are another story.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            The most damning quote had to do with Allah being the greatest of liars…

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That the demon of islam is, the motor mouth it used, muhammad, was a tool, dupe and perverted psychopathic criminally insane psychotic.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            My dear Mahou
            May your Easter Weekend be filled with Grace and Love! There is no one that cannot be saved by the loving touch of Jesus!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6bb62fe545bfa4c847af8b435170c530cacde720b8084ef7f7a74ebb402dfdec.jpg

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Happy easter, celebrate the resurrection.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I’ve read her responses….the exorcist and green pea soup come to mind…i was going to wish her a happy Easter…but the smell of sulfur drove me back. I think your analysis may be wishful thinking…questions in my mind about hormone status

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Muslims need love too, in this one’s case, a bit of tough love, and a few lesson in logic and reason. Besides, the more she says, the worse, if that is possible, islam looks, pisss be upon it.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I love lions but I don’t pet them….im not getting the victimized maiden here…immovable object…un sanctified damned…

          • BrunoPBuhr

            You are a blessed soldier of Christ!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            It is going to take a legion or so to deal with islam, especially since the mandarins of organized religion and socialism are squarely of the side of islam.

          • Leela Kim

            LOL LOL LOL. You are somekind of pathethic aren’t cha?

            When i give you answer as long as Obama speech (lol) “with tons of references” and that you can come up with . Nothing but sleazy personal opinion .. such as “You keep misquoting Christianity and going in circles about islam”… LOL..LOL. LOL.. Low-level two-bit crazy people like you are actually funny, but strangely i need someone as annoying and as stupid like you, you know to irk me a bit, when i’m occasionally pretty lazy to do my homework. So thank you low level crazy christian creature.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            “It is written” “Brevity is the soul of wit” you are half brief. You would get many “re-write and submit again”, if I was marking your work. Too long, wordy insufficiently thought through, conclusions forced and irrelevant, material, not recognizable or traceable to legitimate source. You got a long way to go to attain mediocrity in your studies. Concentrate on your ceiling contemplation technique, as it looks like you do your best work laying on your back. Originality, once again, you got a long way to go to develop the concept.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Slap dat biaaych!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The silly girl keeps slapping herself, mildly entertaining in a strange way.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Can’t see with the burka!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Wouldn’t matter she can’t read either.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            You are so hot when you are being the mean girl!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            !@#!!! hormones.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Funny I didn’t hear a sound…but then …

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Took some midol, it is getting better. Snarl.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I have kidney stone like spasms every day from the car accident I don’t know how you feel but I know how you feel it gets old I rip and snort on occasion as well.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Getting older is a pain in the azs.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            No old jokes!!!! T boning some dumb ass that pulled out in front of me slowed me down a bit but I can still move pretty fast with my cane!!!
            A working knowledge of cane-wa comes in handy

          • Mahou Shoujo

            There is something distinguishing about canes. friend of mine uses one all the time. As a teacher I suspect it comes in handy on occasion.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I hope so, need all the help I can get! I had to use it once on a drunk..took his breath away…gave enough time for the cop to pick him up and carry him off so the concert could continue..i received a standing ovation!

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Good night my wonderfully beautiful friend!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            nite night.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Good morning! He is Risen!

          • Mahou Shoujo
          • BrunoPBuhr

            Don’t eat all the candy!!! Enjoy!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Going to get the grandkids bouncing off the ceiling, then take them home… “vengeance is mine” sayeth the granny.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            May your beauty fill every room and the hearts of your grandchildren!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Being an old hag is actually an asset, it allows me to go unnoticed when I go anywhere. Right now I shall get the kids into high speed wind up, then, dispense with the formalities of rate, reset and proportional band, returning them to their parents in a state of hyper oscillation. Then, undetected, slip quietly away.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I have seen you..your denials fall on deaf ears! You are beautiful!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You definitely need new glasses.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I wouldn’t be able to see anyone else in the room. How many times do I have to say you are beautiful till you believe that I believe it?

          • Mahou Shoujo
          • BrunoPBuhr

            Um…almost looks like you but teeth are way different!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nope, my fangs are longer, I have always had a cylindrical shape.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Cool

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Hair different color but could be yours

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The hair, maybe about 50 years ago, the rest, never was.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Couldn’t tell if it was a trick…sorry

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Trick? Me doing tricks, really.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Well now that you mention it you are magical!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Only to a point.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I can’t tell if that’s you..i know you like costumes…but I would still go to the first one.. Your spirit traveled a path that makes me want to hug you …stand in the way of the next thing you didn’t like. I like that woman. I like you

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Like the girl in the picture, she is much cuter, and has nicer… ears.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            You

          • Mahou Shoujo

            She has a nicer personality.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Um that’s a picture…you have touched my heart…if I had a choice (99.99% chance not happening) I’d want to start and end my day looking at you.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You would wake up screaming and pass out sobbing.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Hallelujah and tears of joy…and laughter at your cylindrical ears! Good night pretty Mahou bugeisha-ren!

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I like cylindrical ears! Good night pretty!

          • Stephen Honig

            Is that you? You’re hot!

          • Mahou Shoujo
          • BrunoPBuhr
          • BrunoPBuhr

            As we come close to the celebration of the risen Christ I want to express my appreciation of your passion your love your warrior protection of his truth, of the love of our Brother Jesus Christ . I’m proud to be your friend!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Thanks.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Why does every stupid muslim think everyone is as stunned as they are?

          • Stephen Honig

            You’re too intellectual for a Muslim to comprehend what your saying. Anyone following the Koran I consider them pieces of stercoraceous. Their consuetude is to remove heads before interrogating. Logic 101 wouldn’t help.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            My comments are more for the reader rather than the author of the original comment. No real point in trying to talk to muslims as they always use circular arguments, culminating that it is “written in the qur’an” as if that gibberish had any credulence to anything.

      • Leela Kim

        And listen chong chang:

        Spread the message that Islam is a religion advocating free choice / no compulsion.

        # To You Your Religion and To Me Mine (Quran Meccan Verses)

        # Proclaim: “This is the truth from your Lord,” then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve (Quran Meccan Verses)

        # NOW [as for thee, O Muhammad,] We have not sent thee otherwise than to mankind at large, to be a herald of glad tidings and a warner; but most people do not understand (Quran Meccan Verses)

        # There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in God hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break.” (Qur’an Medina Verses).

        # Those WHO BELIEVE THEN DISBELIEVE, AGAIN BELIEVE AND AGAIN DISBELIEVE, then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor guide them in the (right) way. (Quran Medina Verses)

        # But if they turn away, [O Muhammad], say, “Sufficient for me is Allah ; there is no deity except Him. On Him I have relied, and He is the Lord of the Great Throne. (Quran Medina Verses)

        # And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds, Say, “It is only revealed to me that your god is but one God; so will you be Muslims [in submission to Him]?” But if they turn away, then say, “I have announced to [all of] you equally. And I know not whether near or far is that which you are promised (Quran Meccan Verses)

        I purposefully add Meccan and Medina to counter those saying that Quran changes its tone from peaceful Medina verses to violent Meccan verses, cause it simply doesn’t.

        And i know it’s not cute to compare Quran to Bible, let alone Torah. But hey, since Trump alike have been slandering Islam to a new crazy level, i think it’s fair to show what’s on Bible and Torah

        # Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD. (Matthew 10:34)

        # I have come to set fire to the earth, and I only wish it were already burning (Luke 12:49)

        # Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. (Luke 12:51)

        # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27) (PS: In the parable of Ten Minas : Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

        # If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

        # Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

        PS:

        – Those particular verses in Torah and Bible verses was not even revealed DURING or FOR WAR CONTEXT.

        – it’s on TORAH / BIBLE which are the most sacred text/highest ruling for Christianity and Judaism

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
          islam is as muslim’s do, the evidence that muslims kill others for not being muslims is well documented, The demonic phrases of your book of incantations and superstitions validated the wretched lives muslims live. As you are trying to insult my ancestry, once again you demonstrate that you think you as a muslin the “best of people” are actually an inferior grade of arrogant ignorant bigot. Hillbillies in Arkansas or Saskatchewan have much more class than muslims.

      • Leela Kim

        Boo Idiotic little creature. Taking war verses without knowing the cause. You are disgraceful and stupi

        # Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them KINDNESS and deal with them JUSTLY; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you, with regard to those WHO FIGHT YOU for (your) Faith, AND DRIVE YOU OUT of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong. (Quran)

        # Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory.–> [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished MONASTERIES, CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND MOSQUES in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. (Quran)

        # Fight in the way of Allah those WHO FIGHT YOU but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors (Quran)

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Imagine my relief, to know that a poorly educated semi literate muslim thinks I am “disgraceful and stupid” no higher compliment could be given. Islam is a disgrace to the concept of religion, a lying form of violent demon worship using legal deception to allow human sacrifice in the form of “shari’a law”. islam only exists by threatening and violently keeping people submissive. islam will rot in a hell of its own making.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.
          Quran (8:67) – “It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land…”

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Bingo! Kicked her right in the contessa!!!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nice girl, but about as sharp as a pound of wet leather.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Too much credit

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Trying to give her benefit of the doubt.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Are you ready to pinky swear???

          • Mahou Shoujo

            No point in swearing with a muslim, Leela is not all that swift, she has no clue as to what is going on.

      • Leela Kim

        It’s like saying YOU CAN BEAT PEOPLE

        but it’s actually said:

        IF PEOPLE BEAT YOU – YOU CAN BEAT PEOPLE WHO BEAT YOU JUST TO DEFENSE YOURSELF, BUT IF THEY PROPOSE PEACE YOU SHOULD STOP.

        Get it???

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Not your version, as islam is what muslims do. What you are saying an inaccurate paraphrasing of an unsubstantiated allusion pertaining to obfuscation of a misconception.

          • Leela Kim

            No it’s you who want to define Islam as your wish. You are so deluded and brainwashed. Kinda hilarious but also pathetic.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Keep trying, so far all you’ve done is tie your niqab in a knot. You have never defined islam as anything but what it isn’t, compared to Christianity. Lets hear your definition, or that of whatever you are mouthing for.

    • IncrediblyUncredibleYou

      A) Jesus didn’t say it
      B) Jesus isn’t god.
      Typing long doesn’t mean something worth reading

    • ninetyninepct

      That was 2016 years ago. Since then, Christians became more civilized and intelligent and have discarded those parts of the early teachings and writings, even to the point of re-writing parts of the Bible to make it more modern. Islam on the other hand persists in retaining violence, rape, killing, terror, beheading, abuse of women, paedophilia and on and on as it’s preferred method of convincing people to convert. Islam hasn’t progressed one second in the last 1400 years. Islam is a terrorist organization.

      In the news this morning we hear that muslim males in Pakistan are rioting because the government wants to ban violence against women. No wonder civilized intelligent people have the opinion we do about islam.

  • Zulu

    there are specially trained individuals for just this kind of thing that will do great things once the muzzles are removed. I can’t wait for the Grand Imam Obama to be gone.

  • Uncle Steve

    they always fabricate a ‘crime’ as justification to pogrom.

  • PIGBERT

    africans gonna be african…wacha gonaa do?

  • Poopmeister

    What a totally misleading article. Do your research before you thrust a situation like this into the spotlight and throw around terms such as “radical Muslim Fulani…..”. Pamela, have you ever visited Nigeria in your life? Are you totally across the ethnic/tribal lines that exist in all parts of Nigeria? How much do you know about the Fulani people? Or Yoruba? Or Igbo???? Very little that is obvious.

    From somebody who has lived in Nigeria for many years and interacted with all of the ethnic groups commercially & socially I can say with authority that the Fulani people do not have a fixed homeland in Nigeria or any other country for that matter. They are a nomadic people who drive their cattle & goat herds across the land with very little understanding or respect for political borders. They have been doing this for hundreds and hundreds of years. Where they find good pasture & drinking water for their herds they stop and set up camp. Invariably their choice of campsites & grazing sites belong to Yoruba, Igbo or even Hausa interests and immediately there is trouble. It is common for Fulani to fight Hausa with deaths occurring on both sides even though the Hausa people are also Muslim.

    This has been going on for generations and will never stop. It has nothing to do with religion but everything to do with territory & grazing pastures/watering rights for animals. Please Pam, get the facts straight before trying to stir up people who normally would not know any different. I am disappointed that your standard has dropped somewhat on this article.

    • sodacrackers2

      This article came from The Christian Post.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      Go pound sand muslum.

      • Poopmeister

        I am no Muslim or Christian for that matter. Your lack of an intelligent response to my comment shows clearly the caliber of audience Pamela attracts to her rants.

        How about you get off your armchair and away from your computer and go see for yourself how things are in the world. You will soon realise how much you are being deceived by BOTH sides of this farcical religious crap.

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          Over 2000 Christians have been slaughtered by your muslum brethren in Nigeria over the last ten years. Please stuff ur holey quranus and ur urbane taqiyya where the sun don’t shine.

          • Poopmeister

            Really? Over 2000? Wow. You are very learned indeed. For your information it is actually closer to 15,000 Christians over 10 years. I see you have really studied this topic intensely to have such an accurate idea about place and a culture you know nothing about. Now how about you go back to Wikipedia and tell me of those almost 15,000 Christians what the break-up is ethnically between the 7 clan/tribal groups that inhabit the areas where most of these people have been killed.

            I would suggest you go to Nigeria if you want to polish up on your knowledge but somehow I doubt you would survive your first night there.

        • ninetyninepct

          It seems that wherever there is violence and killing there is Islam. Claiming that Islam is a “religion” of Peace is a lie.

          • Poopmeister

            Yes I agree somewhat however these Fulani people tend to invoke violent responses wherever they go and it is just incidental that they happen to be muslim. I will correct you on one point if you don’t mind though – Islam is not in my books a religion. It is as many people rightly say, an ideology and a very dangerous one at that.

        • IncrediblyUncredibleYou

          You are attracted to her posts. Oh, I see what you mean.

          • Poopmeister

            I read both sides to get a better view of the idiots who seem to know everything. Oh, wait…..yes, you are one of them I see.

          • IncrediblyUncredibleYou

            You’re the one ranting here then calling those who do idiots. You objectivity is losing credibility. One must now question your mastery of the poop.

          • IncrediblyUncredibleYou

            do people need to warn you that you’re not bright, or does walking into walls provide a sufficient clue? Stalk any virtual females lately?

  • Stephen Honig

    If the world kills every Muslim, then we know we killed every jihadist. Logic 101.

  • Steve

    This is why you can’t trust any muslim and the need for vetting-it could be fatal and you can’t tell who is not going to try to kill you.

  • ninetyninepct

    And the brain dead pope says nothing. He is going to burn in hell for his sins against Christians and Christianity. He does NOT represent the Catholic Church.

    HEY POPE, ignoring terror won’t make it go away.

    • jebor

      Pope Peter is a commie ?

    • Mahou Shoujo

      It gives me considerable discomfort to have to agree with you.