The name of the popular Middle Eastern restaurant where the murderous machete attack took place is Nazareth — the childhood home of Jesus. The owner is an “outspoken Christian” from Israel. Law enforcement said “there’s nothing to lead us to believe this is anything more than a random attack.” Right off the bat they are saying it isn’t terror. Which means it’s terror.
One witness told My Fox 28 Columbus that the scene in the restaurant was pure “carnage” and it seemed like a “systematic attack.”
Police shot and killed a man who stormed into a central Ohio restaurant wielding a machete and randomly attacking people as they sat unsuspectingly at their dinner tables, authorities said.
Four people were injured in the brutal attack Thursday evening at Nazareth Restaurant and Deli, a Mediterranean restaurant in Columbus. The victims were taken to an area hospital and were expected to recover.
Two people who were inside the restaurant at the time described the scene to reporter Rob Wells as “carnage” saying it seemed like a “systematic attack.”… (ABC6)
“There’s blood all over inside the restaurant,” Steven Bass, Karen’s husband, told WSYX.
The machete wielding savage ask the owner where he was from (Christian from Israel) and came back an hour later swinging.
“[He] immediately began swinging a machete at customers and employees inside,” Sgt. Rich Weiner with the Columbus Police Department said. “There was no rhyme or reason as to who he was going after as soon as he walked in, according to some of the witnesses.”
One comment at Free Republic said, “Nazareth’s is just around the corner from our home. My wife and I go there often. They have wonderful Greek food. Hanie, is the very popular owner. He engages with the customers and is very jovial.
“The latest news is that the FBI is investigating as a possible terrorist act, but no detail as of yet. This is in a very quiet neighborhood with little crime. Gahanna is kind of a all-American town. Their weekly newspaper lists the previous week’s crimes. I read it for chuckles as they consist of things like, woman notified police of a loud noise, mailbox knocked over, neighbor complained of dog poop on his porch. We’ve lived here for 15 years and nothing like this before – at least this close to our home.”
When the police caught up with the savage:
The suspect eventually made it out of the vehicle with a machete and another knife in hand.
Then, “he lunged across the hood at the officers,” Weiner said. “Another officer in a cruiser fired a couple shots at him and put him down.” (FOX 24)
The number of people attacked has not been confirmed, 10tv.com reports, but one is in critical condition. MyFox28Columbus.com reports two people are in critical condition. The Columbus Dispatch reports six people were transported to the hospital.
“Police kill man they say attacked restaurant patrons with machete,” By Rick Rouan & Earl Rinehart, The Columbus Dispatch • Thursday February 11, 2016:
Columbus police say a man came into the restaurant and began hacking people with a machete, sending four of them to area hospitals and critically injuring at least one.He was shot and killed by police after they tracked him down about 5 miles from the restaurant.
As of late Thursday, police hadn’t released the names of those injured or the name of the man who was killed by officers.
It’s unclear why he did what he did.
Sgt. Rich Weiner, a spokesman for the Police Division, said “there’s nothing to lead us to believe this is anything more than a random attack.” The FBI also is investigating but Weiner wouldn’t say why.
Weiner said the man first came into the restaurant about 5:30 p.m. and talked with an employee. It’s unclear whether it was an argument, but he returned about a half-hour later with a machete and attacked a couple eating dinner.
Weiner said that others came to their rescue and also were injured. He said four were hospitalized, including one with serious injuries that required surgery. All are expected to survive.
Zakas said there were no indications recently that anything was wrong. She worked Wednesday night without incident.
“Everything seemed fine,” she said. “Nobody has mentioned issues or problems with anyone.”
Most people leave the restaurant smiling, she said. On Thursday nights, Foley draws a crowd. Sometimes there are parties and kids dancing, she said.
“It’s usually packed on Thursday night,” she said. “It’s got an amazing reputation. This restaurant has an amazing reputation. I just can’t imagine.”
The restaurant is owned by Hany Baransi, who could be seen talking with police behind the crime-scene tape but couldn’t be reached for comment.
Police say the man with the machete fled the restaurant, 5239 N. Hamilton Rd., and was stopped by police off Stelzer Road, just south of Montclair Drive.
He was shot by police, Weiner said, after he got out of his car with the machete in a threatening manner. Two officers fired guns and the man died at OhioHealth Grant Medical Center at 6:24 p.m.
Jason Baker, who lives in New Albany, was headed to a different restaurant in the same shopping plaza when he saw the police cars and ambulances.
When he arrived at Chestnut Hill IV plaza, Baker said he saw one of the victims inside the nearby Carpet One store. The other victims were being helped in the restaurant. There was a significant amount of blood on the sidewalk outside the restaurant, he said.
One of the victims had his arms and a hand bandaged. He heard the man say, “I was trying to help other people. He attacked me.”
More: “Police shoot man after he uses machete to attack people in Columbus restaurant,” Cleveland.com
COLUMBUS, Ohio — Police shot and killed a man Thursday night who attacked restaurant patrons with a machete, reports say.
Police tell the Associated Press the man walked into a Mediterranean restaurant, Nazareth Restaurant in Northeast Columbus, and attacked several people.
The suspect drove off and was later cornered on a road near Easton Town Center shopping complex, about five miles from the restaurant, where he was shot by police during a confrontation. The unidentified suspect was taken to a hospital but died of his wounds.
The number of people attacked has not been confirmed, 10tv.com reports, but four were taken to the hospital and two are in critical condition. The Columbus Dispatch reports six people were transported to the hospital.
“There were a lot of witnesses, a lot of people that our investigators have to interview,” police spokesperson Sgt. Rich Weiner tells 10tv.com. “So right now we have a long road ahead of us for the rest of the night.”
According to 10tv.com, witnesses said the man entered the restaurant and asked for the manager, who wasn’t there. He then left.
He returned about 30 minutes later and, without speaking, began attacking diners, reports say. About 20 people, including two babies, were in the restaurant at the time of the attack.
“He looked straight at me but he went over to the booths and just started going down the booths,” a waitress tells 10tv.com. “It all seemed to happen in slow motion.”
Weiner says people, including employees, began throwing chairs at the suspect, nbc4i.com reports. The man then walked out of the restaurant and drove off.
Witnesses were able to get a description of the vehicle and also took video to help police, Weiner says.
A special duty officer at Easton Town Center spotted the suspect’s car, and police were able to surround the vehicle. Police say they used a Taser on the man but it had no effect.
The man then reportedly lunged at police with the machete and knife and an officer fired two shots, nbc4i.com reports.
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Ohio has a lot of Muslim extremists.
Today, thanks to the police, there is one less.
They were too late , he should have met his faith before he hacked and slashed. Like all Constitutionalist know police can’t protect you they can only clean up after the fact. And when seconds count they are minutes away.
In this case they “got their man” it is hard to stage a preemptive shooting on a criminal before they commit a crime, though in muslims case, there may be reason to do so.
WRONG! This is NOT a Muslim extremist but a TRUE follower of TRUE Islam, nothing extreme about following one’s religion. All Muslims are sleeping cells, including your peace loving Muslim neighbor. Waiting for the marching orders from their Imams.
Trump 2016!
They are all you said but yes ant so called group that requires women to be in cloth coffins and have the same status as a goat and kills people with different views is extreme. Go Donald Trump save America. Lets all help him do it.
Exactly they are no Muslim extremist there are Muslims and there are semi-muslim.
Muslims follow the commands of Mohammed
Semi-Muslim follow only parts of what Mohammed commanded.
Hi Jose Israel Martinez,
Islam forbids killing innocent people.
According to Islam it is a great sin to kill an innocent person, and anyone who does so will suffer great torment in the hereafter:
…So We decreed for the tribe of Israel that if someone kills another person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the earth. (Qur’an 5: 32
Islam condemns all type of terrorism include killing of thousands of innocents during US invasion in Afghanistan, killing of millions of innocents during US invasion in Iraq, killing of thousands of innocents in Palestine. killing of innocent in Syria by Russian cluster bomb.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/christian-terrorism_b_8685138.html
94% Terrorists in USA are non Muslims
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html
White Americans Are The Biggest Terror Threat In The United States
Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists.
White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.
Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11
Homegrown Terrorism
In the United States since Sept. 11, terrorist attacks by antigovernment, racist and other nonjihadist extremists have killed nearly twice as many people as those by Islamic jihadists.
Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.
“Law enforcement agencies around the country have told us the threat from Muslim extremists is not as great as the threat from right-wing extremists,” said Dr. Kurzman, whose study is to be published by the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security and the Police Executive Research Forum.
Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America
Here are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Equal ISIS
http://aattp.org/here-are-8-christian-terrorist-organizations-that-equal-isis/
6 modern-day Christian terrorist groups our media conveniently ignores
Covering April 2009 to February 2015, the report (titled “The Age of the Wolf”) found that during that period, “more people have been killed in America by non-Islamic domestic terrorists than jihadists.”
Christian terrorism is a bigger threat to U.S. freedom than Islamic extremism
Friday afternoon, at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, Colorado, a gunman walked into the medical facility and opened fire. At least 11 people are injured, including reports of a police officer responding to the call being killed.
ISIS is enemy of Islam…
Saudi Arabia confirms plans to send troops to Syria
Saudi Arabia has confirmed it is planning to deploy ground troops to Syria to fight Isis.
ISIS Executes 13 Sunni Clerics for Refusal To Join Them
http://www.clarionproject.org/news/isis-executes-13-sunni-clerics-refusal-join-them
ISIS executing Sunni Muslim clerics for refusing to swear allegiance to ISIS.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/07/isis-s-gruesome-muslim-death-toll.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/16/muslims-hate-isis-most-of-all.html
ISIS has killed thousands of Muslims across the Middle East, including beheading Sunni Muslims in Iraq for failing to pledge loyalty to them, executing Imams for not submitting to them, and even killing an Imam in Iraq for simply denouncing them.
“Witnesses were able to get a description of the vehicle and also took video to help police, Weiner says.”
How about a description OF THE SHIITE-HEAD!
PS – I heard this is in the suburb of Gahanna…a little irony…
How many guess it is a recent refugee placed in Ohio from a Shariah compliant country?
Oh boy, that’s a hard one, umm..lets see now, should I say a Christian just going home from a church gathering ? Nah, its got to be a Jewish rabbi on his way to the Synagogue, Hand on chin, perplexed as to the motive.
I But it was one of those rabid Methodist. The fine Methodist people I believe will understand the snark.
Oh, I thought maybe it was Buddhists. Or the Hare Krishnas. But maybe it was Amish people? Did they say he fled in a car? Or was it a horse buggy?
I’m sure of one thing, it was “nothing to do with islam” at least until they find a IS membership card in his wallet, or stuff on his computer, and eventually HAVE to admit it was terror. Same as they did it in San Bernadino. If they try to blow sunshine up our you-know-where, it is obvious we’re being deceived.
Even if they conclude it’s terrorism, they’ll say it has nothing to do with islam. Like ISIS calls itself Islamic State, but the experts still say it has nothing to do with isla. Maybe all the horrific things Mohammed did had nothing to do with islam..
When a mohammedan does a crime, he’s called a lone wolf and it has nothing to do with islam. When a caucasian does a crime, the whole caucasian population and the whole country is to blame.
Understood OK. The difference between us Methodists and other Protestants is that we will at least speak to each other in the liquor store.
I hope so. Unless you argue over the best single malt.
Maybe it was a Mormon out spreading the word of Joseph Smith.
Our PC news “reporters” are still in PC denial.
If the perp’s name was Clem Smith, we’d already know it.
And even if they use an American name like Terrel Smith, don’t be surprised if you find buried in the article that Terrel changed his name to Mohammed in prison, when he converted to Islam. That will be buried almost out of reach.
Restaurant owner is probably a Maronite Christian, like my ancestery. The Muslims hate them as much as the Jews. CC here always on the alert, and trust no Arab no matter the circumstances.
Amen. Even a fully ‘Westernized’ Muslim is susceptible to reversion aka “sudden jihad syndrome.” A lifetime of Islamic sin can be wiped clean with an act of holy jihad murder. I think of the Egypt Air pilot as a classic example.
The Maronite Christians are Arabs, genius.
Wrong A-hole. They are the Phoenicians, those that built Carthage and roamed the oceans sailed even to the New World.
The definition of Arab is someone from an Arabic speaking country. I know many Arab Christians from Lebanon. It is the Greek Orthodox who might claim to be descended from the “Phoenicians”. The Catholic Maronites are descendants of the European Crusaders and the Arabs. The Phoenicians as a culture were long gone by the time the Crusaders were building their castles. Learn some history and try to express yourself without using profanity.
Arabs are not the problem the problem is Islamist
“Islamist” yet another dishonest neologism designed to obfuscate the ugly truth about islam.
May have been a bit harsh, but yes I will answer to genius since my IQ is 132, but in the context you used “GENIUS’ it was very ignorant. Some times it is best to leave discussions go for it is repetitive and much like argue with a drunk.
Pathetic response. Learn to write proper English.
You do not know the difference between “PONTIFICATION AND FORNICATION”
You don’t know the difference between a lie and the truth:
F-A-Hole read and educate yourself Jihadist http://phoenicia.org/maronites.html
Can you imagine such dregs of humanity dominating the world? “Sharia the true solution. Freedom go to hell”. It says it all. Frankly, I’d happily napalm this lot, but at the least ship them back to where they or their family migrated.
They do dominate a big chunk of the world, and it’s getting bigger.
You are right, Matt, and it’s getting bigger to some extent through Western stupidity driven by political correctness, ignorance and cowardice. Western leadership is worse then pathetic.
I often refer to what Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said in his Harvard Commencement Address in 1978, a speech that upset many academics and others. The truth angered them: “The Western world has lost its civic courage, both as a whole and separately, in each country, in each government, in each political party, and, of course, in the United Nations. A decline in courage may be the most striking feature that an outside observer notices in the West today. Such a decline in courage is particularly noticeable among the ruling and intellectual elites, causing an impression of a loss of courage by the entire society. There are many courageous individuals, but they have no determining influence on public life.
“Political and intellectual functionaries exhibit this depressing passivity and perplexity in their actions and in their statements, and even more so in their self-serving rationales as to how realistic, reasonable, and intellectually and even morally justified it is to base state policies on weakness and cowardice.” This week in a letter I sent this to David Gergen at Harvard. Apart from being a prof he’s an analyst and commentator for CNN, former adviser to U.S. presidents – and a man who specializes in ‘running with the hares and hunting with the hounds’, a man who exemplifies what Solzhenitsyn contemptuously condemned in Western “intellectual elites”.
When the West needs strength, it has weak, cowardly and stupid leaders. Obama is simply evil and in bed with Islam – yet he stays because of the cowardly opposition.
The old Russian nailed it.
This captures Hillary admirably. This liar is the essence of expediency. She will say anything that feathers her smelly. well crapped-in nest.
3 guesses first two don’t count
The fact that the FBI was involved so quickly and they aren’t releasing a name (until they take-down and sanatize the attacker’s social media pages) are reasons to suspect that you are right.
Just another one of obama’s “boys”, making him and his satanic allah proud…
Obama has been flooding our country with his Islamic brothers and quietly placing them in cities and towns all across the United States for years. He wants to keep importing tens of thousands more of these sleeper terrorists to destroy our country and “Fundamentally Transform America”. This is done on purpose. It is pre-meditated. Wake up America! Arm yourselves. This is really happening. Conceal carry!
That is exactly what is happening. And we need to wake up. It’s not just obama doing, but everyone who voted for him, every one who enables him, everyone who does nothing to stop him.
obama can do nothing on his own. Without the help and backing of all the democrats and rinos his efforts would not take hold. It is the vast confederacy of fools that have empowered him and aids him in his destruction of America that is the worst and most dangerous problem that America faces. They are all the enemy within, every single one of them.
The police put him down. That’s quite apt, really. Rabid animals have to be ‘put down’ at some point
The problem now however is they can’t interrogate him to discover any undocumented information. Also a good NRA example of how gun ownership & Conceal&Carry is vital.
I believe they can go to his residence etc etc
The FBI was at his apartment all night gathering intel.
Gathering intel that they won’t do one f’ing thing with.
President Obongo can go to the guy’s mosque and pray and snuggle with his imam and rail against whitey etc., that’s all the after-action follow up necessary as usual. Oh, and train FBI/DHS personnel to never suspect the nice peaceful sand Moslems of anything
Some asshat is now trying to report that the attacker was a baptist. Seriously?
Before you know it, he’ll be a white Christian.
That is because Moslems are telling
FBI people not to profile Moslems.
Apparently, you know that the Mobama administration is Moslem.
He filled the WH with the Muslim Brotherhood. They are his advisors.
That’s because Obama is telling the FBI not to profile Muslims and the FBI leadership is too cowardly and stupid to do the right thing for the country and their society.
You can bet that he’ll send a congratulatory note to the mosque about their contributions to America.
Obama Tweet: “Cool machete, Mohamed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like chopping up restaurant patrons. It’s what makes America great.”
You’re right, there is no point in owning a gun and leaving it at home.
Perhaps, but I can’t very well take all two dozen of mine with me when I go out.
Boy oh boy, are you ready for war?
“Boy oh boy, are you ready for war?”
Well, I haven’t been properly trained and my bags aren’t packed. My eyes aren’t sharp, one of my knees is shot, and I have a bit of a bad back…so I’d probably be 4F. But if it comes to me…I try to be ready. Check out what I bought myself for Valentine’s Day – Pick day up is 2/21. You know, just so I don’t have to sleep alone.
LOL. Nice going. I like your humour, but can’t you also get something for, kind of, close up?
I have a Springfield Armory XD 40 Service Model with a Viridian green laser sight for the bedroom. Loaded with Remington 180 GR Golden Saber hollow points. There is also a 28 inch tanto hanging from the bedroom door. I hope to never need to use such things in a SHTF situation but better safe than sorry.
I promise not to break into your house!! You’re right, better safe than sorry.
P.S. don’t feel badly, I played rugby for about 16 years and it ended one Saturday afternoon with a destroyed knee that now, after 4 operation over many years, now needs replacing. But I’m not so weak and not exactly ready to roll for some disgusting Muslim,
I am sure he was documented. I live in Columbus Ohio, the city where the terrorist lived. Our governor Mike Coleman in partnership with the Obama administration, resettled thousands of Muslim Somalians in the northeast part of our city in 2 large apartment complexes. This is NOT the first time terror has come out of these neighborhoods. Just last year there were several men charged with terror charges with at least one living in the same area as this terrorist.
Our Mayor Coleman allowed the Muslims to be brought in on a bribe essential. The government paid Coleman at a time he was facing a terrible budget during the height of the crisis and was facing a political firestorm.
Now we get to pay and continue to pay.,
Quid pro Quo; Coleman’s wife’s DUI-accident charges suddenly weren’t such a big problem so she only served 3 days in jail and then later the Coleman home sold to a foreign business owner at 30% above market value.
Coleman? He’s the former Mayor of Columbus. Kasich is governer. You sure you live in Columbus?
YES,
Ginther is our incoming mayor
Coleman was the mayor before him.
Why are you even mentioning the governor. I did not as he is NOT part of this story really.
It was under mayor colemans administration that these Somalian refugees were resettled in Columbus.
Because you said “Our governor Mike Coleman in partnership with the Obama….”. That’s why.
The attack was typical of what occurs every day in Israel and I’m glad the police were able to not pay attention to the rantings of Bernie Sanders, in last night’s debate. They rightly used the normal Israeli response.
This was an extrajudicial killings! I’m calling the Swedish Foreign Secretary Wallstrom to file a complaint! :))
LOL
“Go ahead, make my day!”
Great hair.
Great gun.
From Death Wish –
“Nothing to do but cut and run, huh? What else? What about the old American social custom of self-defense? If the police don’t defense us, maybe we ought to do it ourselves.”
Great movie.
Moron
Don’t you understand sarcasm? Geez! Moron.
Jane Goodall go back to the apes.
Jane if you can’t comprehend obvious sarcasm then you are truly lacking.
Double smiley face and you can’t see humour? Should you be on the net unsupervised?
Yes, these non-Muslims have some nerve.
Rumor has it that the UN is drafting a resolution blaming Israel. Don’t forget to congratulate UN Secretary-Genera Ban Ki-mooooooon for being on the case.
Knock your lights out.
The lack of attention to these attacks in Israel and continued support for the PLO are sickening. Also, where is Obama when an incident like this happens. He is quick to show his support for Muslims by attending a mosque; yet his absence when a muslim attacks innocent people in the name of Islam is sickening. Unlike Michael Brown, this victims were blameless. Where are the Obama led protests.
I bet he’s laughing , jumping and clapping his hand in joy.
he’s probably visiting another mosque. probably an ISIS one this time.
Mochetebar would have said “alahu akbar. I did it for islam” and the cops would have said “classic workplace violence”. Odumber would have opened up an investigation by the FBI in the sleepy town for racism and cops would have been written up by the new york slimes “islamaphobia out of control at the pizzeria”. Black comedy at its finest. Its better to waste the cultists. CCP definitely is the new faith.
Thank you.
They don’t do anything with the info when they get it except suppress it, so it’s better just to exterminate them.
Police Or The FBI Will Have Warrants To His Personal Property
That is how we are going to have to defeat this enemy
Yup.
The only way.
How would Trump stop that? That makes no sense, but I’m willing to hear you out
1) Start an open conversation about Islamic reality. (Sorry to be so honest – Islam is a big successful cult.)
2) Use the RICO statutes to close down all mosques as complicit in an organized crime syndicate. Islam fits this issue to a T. Arrest any mullahs involved in incitement or money laundering.
3) Track back the money. If Saudi money involved, zero tolerance. Confiscate it all. The same for any others.
4) Use military power to destroy any and all terror organizations anywhere.
5) Stop any foreign aid to any Muslim country found complicit in terror funding. That includes Pakistan.
6) Stop all Muslim immigration (Trump).
Asked and answered. Well said.
You forgot: random surveillance on all fronts of Muslim community where there are males between 16 to 40 years old.
90% of Muslims HATE Israel and the Jews. There is no sugarcoating this sad reality.
Youth Protection Agency should follow up with the young Muslim kids in the schools to ensure they are not being indoctrinated at home into hating other groups.
My ex-PM Harper (Canada) stated he was more worried about home indoctrination and radicalization than terror attacks.
Islam is rabidly and explicitly antisemitic. I’ve never read/heard/seen a single muslim anywhere categorically repudiate/denounce any of the antisemitic vomit found in the holey quranus…EVAH.
I know many Muslims. Was with one for 16 years (a secret apostate – even his family and friends didn’t know). I also helped out a few Muslims in recent years. I hereby confirm they ALL hate the Jews. They won’t speak about it openly, only in private circles.
Those Muslims that respect Jews are few and far between – aka reformists. They are rejected by their own.
We live in dangerous times whereby our own leaders do not know the source of the danger: all gullible and uninformed people. Reminds me of the Nazi movement when it started.
They’re neither gullible nor uninformed. They’re evil.
Yes, the muslims you know and have known afraid to speak up are testament to the cult beast and its mind intimidation control. David may have been small in stature but he was big in heart facing Goliath. When people stand up as reformers though maybe 1 or 2 at first it can often be the start of big changes. However, many have left islam, impossible in their estimation, to reform. Either way, reform or leaving, it would be beneficial to the west. Those quiet muslims like the quiet germans indirectly help the extremists among them. If they are trying to be true americans they will make the right choice.
The only way to reform Islam is to have their ideal guy (PBUH) die early, before his migration to Medina. Then, at least 60% of their noble holy book will be eliminated.
That ideal guy is quite the problem. I always say that I admire Islamic State because they are honest: they are simply following in the footsteps of their ideal guy (PBUH). This cannot be denied (hadiths, Sira).
I agree with you re the quiet ones. Most of them know but refuse to talk about it. And those that don’t know, refuse to listen.
As to reformers, same problem: they refuse to address the issue of the ideal guy (PBUH). Notice they never talk about him. You cannot reform the book without first dealing with the guy.
I appreciate your input and it is quite a thing to contemplate that it would be possible for an islamic reform. In any event as things are going they will have to be put in their place. The thing the west must work for is electorate control preferably over mass uprisings in order to not play into the martial control that would only make things worse. They must be fought economically and legally in every way possible to stop their encroachments on trying to subdue the west. The pbuh medina has already been abrogated into the typically muslim life so an off shoot might be possible by abrogating the mecca forward but i won’t hold my breath.
I have Muslim acquaintances and one very close friend, an Islamist. I
was with a Muslim for 16 years (secret apostate – family and friends
didn’t know). I was the ONLY Infidel within their inner circle,
although a naive one at the time.
My Islamist friend, Younes: he
loves decapitation, limb amputations, multiple wives, wife beating,
women are inferior, he rejoiced with utmost glee at the Charlie Hebdo
slaughter… and more.
When I mentioned Charlie Hebdo to my Muslim acquaintances, not a peep in reply – redirection of conversation.
Younes has smiling eyes, pretty smile, loves
wine, smokes ‘pot’, when you disprove his statements with hadith or
Qur’an verses – he says it is Islamophobia or mistranslated… I am tiptoeing re ideal guy (PBUH) with Younes…
What to do? It is OUR DUTY to learn the doctrine through a critical thinking perspective and confront them with it. It is our only salvation.
Oh, please.
Re “home indoctrination and radicalization,”when that becomes a constant concern the question that should arise is whether there is any point in permitting Muslim immigration. I say ‘no’ because even if parents are nominal Muslims there is no assurance that children won’t become radicalized. In fact I know a Muslim, now in his 50s who was once nominal and with whom I got on well, but then he transformed into raving moron Muslim, goes to the mosque each day and noon and comes back a foul-mouthed slob, his hatred of Jews just insane. He brought all his garbage baggage to Canada from Lebanon and his friend were no different. There is no telling how often this transformation occurs so what’s the point of allowing in more Muslims.
Now Canada has a complete imbecile at the wheel so we will see how his infantile idiocy impacts on the country. The fact is, an idiotic electorate chose this fool as the country’s ‘leader’.
The hate to the jews by muslims reminds me of the scapegoating that hitler used to control the masses but the islamists seem to have taken it to an entirely new level of promotion for otherwise average or lowlife people to feel some delusion of power and grandeur though it typically amounts to a few seconds of violence and death as a sucker for the cult. Damn, not even a retired bombers pension.
I still believe there are payoffs involved in this and other similar government situations and possible clandestine mind control events affecting the actions of world “leaders”. It sounds odd but there is so much unusual activity going on that there is cause for concern. According to a growing consensus, there appears to be a worldwide progressive socialist movement but it fails to contemplate how these progressives will control the islamist cult beast if it overcomes the west.
1) the left really doesn’t want to go beyond PC–they so far have refused to converse on this.
2) to do that you would need to declassify Islam and label it a cult. That will not be an easy task under the Constitution-although I agree that it is. I honestly don’t see that happening.
3) great idea–I’m totally on board with it
4) easy to say, difficult as hell to do. To make it easy, we would incur the wrath of the world because we would have to kill a lot of civilians, I believe. I don not believe, in any way, that we should have these crazy rules of engagement, but we can’t ignore our moral grounding as the best nation on earth. I honestly think we need to get a hell of a lot of Muslims on board with the process. My wife is–but she’s an apostate and the bastards would kill her if they could.
5) and 6) I’m down for that
Our moral grounding? Our moral grounding screams for us to undo these Islamic vermin.
Islam is a totalitarian political system whose aim is to conquer and submit the entire population of the world to islam. The religious part is a small detail, like a varnish.
That’s a start. Stop all foreign aid to all Muslim countries because they’re all complicit. You should know that by now.
Is that so? How are you going to “defeat this enemy”? By waiting for the police to arrive and shoot a criminal or terrorist? Tell me, a foreigner, we constantly hear and read about Americans owning guns, so why in this age with Muslims savages all over, did no one in the restaurant or the restaurant owner have a gun in their possession with which to gun down an attacker?
Let me tell you the difference. Two armed black men walked into a Johannesburg, South Africa, pub in a suburb next door to where I once lived. They began pistol whipping white patrons, so one of the patrons took out his pistol and shot dead both of these criminals. That what you do in these violent times, carry a weapon if you are permitted to own one and shoot dead Muslim terrorist vermin while they are attacking people. In another case, just outside Cape Town a white businessman walked out of his office in an area called Paarden Eiland. He was carrying documents in his hand. Outside he found himself confronted by three armed black men. I don’t know how he managed it, maybe in the violent mess South Africa has become under black rule, he had his gun handy, but whatever the case he shot all three dead. Now that is what you do. You don’t wait for the police to arrive, you protect yourself and beforehand become proficient with a weapon or weapons you own.
Oh yes, in the case of the pub, when the police arrived the patrons (laughingly) told the police they had never before seen the man who shot dead these criminals and afterwards walked out.
I carry my gun EVERYWHERE I go for just such an occasion (and my wife does too). We are well trained and practice as much as we can, plus it is fun.
My hat off to you and your wife. I wish everyone would take heed. Even if they don’t enjoy it “for fun”, it makes sense to protect yourself. Why be an unnecessary victim? Rather let the terrorists die and go to hell to find their 72 old hags. I was amazed after the San Bernardino massacre to realize that not one among those 14 murdered had a weapon. I must say that when doing military service I enjoyed practice with a whole variety of weapons, rifles, machine guns and sub-machine machines guns like the Israeli uzi.
The uzi? Over the MP5?
I’m not familiar with the MP5, but the Uzi was nicely built, compact and reliable.
Carry a weapon whether you’re permitted to or not.
I think you are right, particularly when some police are just out to lunch. One Metro Toronto officer informed me that when confronted by a criminal I should call them via 911. I told this ‘brilliant’ man, “So you’re telling me that before the guy robs me I should ask him to hold on a second while call you?” He didn’t like my sarcasm so just scowled.
Where is this being reported in MSM? Oh that’s right, Imama O’mohamma, Jarrett and Lynch have put a media blackout on anything remotely Islam. So disgusted with the Establishment I could just scream.
The white mosque will require a very through cleaning when its imam is kicked to the curb.
Cleaning? More like an exorcism.
You are absolutely right, what was I thinking, an exorcism will most defiantly be required.
Can’t happen fast enough. Race for survival at this point.
Eventually decency will win, but not without a fight.
I pray that you are right on that.
The saddle is on the sow, it is now up to us to ride the bitch. We will win, even if it kills somebody, we all know who that somebody is.
Yes, the cover up and media black out has begun. Just a few days ago Twitter began to censor Twitter followers.
Can’t go national until they get all of the ISIS, “Death to America”, and “Finally got my Asylum in the US approved” posts off of his FaceBook and Twitter pages.
true dat
Another peace loving muslim who will suffer consequences of disobeying the qur’an which says “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256)”.
Just remember to vote for your favorite “establishment” candidate in the November elections! {{ Sarcasm }}
Bet he wanted to meet allah and claim his 72 virgins.
Yes, it would appear that he was fully committed to that end.
Is that right? Here they are then:
What’s his name? His name will tell us all we need to know.
Correct. Then we will know if it is a case of sudden jihad syndrome. Of course only if we are told the truth.
Could be a $hitty convert with a western name though. But I think it’s most likely a muzzie
Converts to Sh*tlam usually take a Sh*tlamic name. Remember Muhammad Ali and Yusuf Islam?
I don’t think Ali really understood Islam, his move was more Afro-Centrism. Cat Stevens, OTOH, grew up around Islam and understands Islam well.
For an example of the two men, Ali would enjoy performing little magic tricks and then he would show how they were done explaining that it is forbidden to deceive in Islam. This is of course untrue, but it seemed he really believed that. Cat Stevens has gone on record defending the penalty of death for leaving Islam. It was quite hypocritical of him to perform for the Rock ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame.
Yusuf Islam stated on television that Salman Rushdie must die for writing the Satanic Verses. Yusuf Islam stated while they he wouldn’t kill Rushdie personally he would have no problems dropping the dime on him.
And nobody had a handgun? It was a perfect opportunity to show a raghead the perils of bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Just “random, senseless violent extremism”. Obama knows best, after all.
It is always random and senseless. It is, isn’t it?
Yep, random, by random folks. Cringe, squirm, and deny, them’s the rules.
Maybe it was caused by another video or a web post from a non-believer
Maybe cartoons depicting the prophet is what drove this man insane.
“Self-Defence: Where Do You Stand?” at Liberty GB:
http://libertygb.org.uk/news/self-defence-where-do-you-stand
Hany Baransi, owner of the Nazareth Deli, is one of the kindest, warmest human beings on the planet. I’ve been going to his restaurant for 25+ years, since my children were toddlers. He is a devoted Christian, greets customers with a hearty “Merry Christmas” regardless of the time of year, and participates in many charity events for the Mid-Ohio Food Bank. I am sick with grief at this terrorist (yeah, I said it) attack. It was bound to happen though, as we have had a huge influx of this barbarous horde in the past year or so. Maybe now my acquaintances won’t just roll their eyes when I try to warn them that this is an invasion and that ‘peace’ has absolutely NOTHING to do with this vicious ideology.
This is why we need Donald Trump now more than ever!
This is why you need to prepare yourself, own a gun and kill attackers. Don’t just wait for Donald Trump, you need to do things for yourself, not wait for daddy or mommy, or the police to arrive. You have enough stupid voters who might put the disgusting liar and incompetent Hillary in the WH. Just watch black voters flock to her support after her totally phony pro-Obama garbage in last night’s debate. Suddenly in Hillary’s drivel Obama became God’s gift to America. She knows that about 50% of South Carolina voters are black and about 97% of them voted for Obama, so she became a staunch Obama supporter. What an utter fraud! As Carly Fiorina put it so well in the last Republican debate, ‘Bill and Hillary will say anything’ to get into power.
It is hard to imagine that voters could be that stupid, but it seems that they are.
Well, just look at who Canadians made their Prime Minister and who Ontarians made their premier. The idiocy never ends.
Ever heard of P.T. Barnum?
Donald Trump will remove those “Gun Fre Zones” that paralyses you and me from self defense. You and me can not get rid of those stupid signs. Just try it!
I think you understand the situation.
Fiorina expressed admiration for the islamic slave state called the Ottoman Empire. I hope she drowns in a cesspool.
I read that article and was amazed by her disgraceful terrible ignorance. When Mehmed II conquered Constantinople the city was a shadow of what it had been, yet he chose it as hid capital because even in that condition it was better than what he had. When you think of the Ottoman’s cruelty all of south-eastern Europe, even in Arabia, her talk of justice and stability was appalling.
Oh well, she’s out of the picture now, but she did manage a good job on the Clintons.
There are no moderate muslimes if they believe in that book koran they will come out eventually and be against you when the population over runs the American way of life.
Why are so many in denial about this simple fact. Islam is Islam and they use the Koran-Hadith -Sira to back up their savagery . It is an Ideology masked by the “religion” it isn’t!
Yes, Richard Hobbs has a good link on islam as a cult.
http://newenglishreview.org/Richard_Hobbs_/Why_Islam_is_a_Cult/
You got to remember that the punishment for leaving Islam is death. So that is why you probably do have moderate Muslims.
Show me one.
I’m beginning to see that label to mean as “moderately afraid” rather than trying to be decent peaceful americans. Also, the abrogation principle and sharia policy of zakat make their position tentative at best and cowardly at worse.
“Moderate” muslums are nothing more than a peaceful 5th column using different tactics to reach the same ends as their “violent”, “radical” brethren.
Islamic charities have been discovered financing islamic terrorism.
One example, the Armenian genocide. 1,500,000 innocent victims slaughtered by their muslim neighbours who turned on them..
Trump should make a web page of all the destruction ,crimes and death our Government has imported or refused to export under the establishment players society.
From the descriptions I’ve read in local blogs (gossip from friends or friends of witnesses, etc), it sounds like the perp would fit into Columbus’ “robust” Somali population. Strange week, Black Lives Matter supporter shoots himself on the Statehouse steps and now this. It’s almost like the eye of Sauron (Soros) has turned toward Columbus for some reason.
“Eye of Sauron (Soros),” now that’s the cleverest thing I’ve heard in a while!!!
Made me chuckle.
HEAR HEAR!! I’ve known Hany and eaten at his restaurant for close to 2 decades now. He’s the best ambassador for the middle east (and palestinian christians specifically) that I’ve ever met. An all around excellent gentleman. This now dead scumbag apparently also had a police report filed on him, by Hany, in December of last year for making some threats in the restaurant. From the pieces I have seen, this was premeditated terror. Jihad is Jihad. Whether it’s ISIS, or Al Nusra, or Al Queda… Wahabbist Islam is a cancer in need of excision from the planet.
Delete the word ‘Wahabbist’ and you have it 100% correct
Excuse me, but he is an Israeli. A Christian Israeli.
I swear Hany told me he was a Palestinian who lived in Israel and yes, he is a Christian. He goes back and takes Kim with him almost every year. If I’m wrong, sorry. No offense meant. He’s still one of my favorite people on the planet.
I did in fact have that wrong. His daughter confirms he’s from Haifa. Disregard my fail please., and support this good man and his business.
I’m surprised that Hani didn’t carry an arm or weapon for protection.
The lonewolf BS will turn into I-can-beat-that one up manship as attacks increase.
Democrats do not know why he did what he did! Conservatives know Donald Trump is our last hope!
Demobrats do not have any brains left they can’t think for themselves they go along with the pack
They have brains they are just not allowed to use them if it might threaten their ideology.
Well, if they are male DimocRATS, we know where their brains reside. And if they are female DimocRATS they have probably aborted their brains.
“….there’s nothing to lead us to believe this is anything more than a random attack”? That was a well-planned terror attack by a Muslim who had deep, embedded hatred of Christians.
And Israel.
Definitely. “After a period of glory, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies sent me against the nations who plundered you. For he said, ‘Anyone who harms you harms my most precious possession’ ” (Zechariah 2:8 NLT).
Good thing that it wasn’t Valentine’s Day, when restaurants are typically packed to capacity!
“No rhyme or reason for this attack”. “No clear reason why he did it”. Try the word Terrorism.
Please God Bless those that were hurt and help them to heal. The fact that other patrons resisted if nothing better at hand than throwing chairs you can bet saved innocent lives. We all will know what this will turn out to be.
One less Muslim savage. Good work by the police. Only 1 billion more to go. Maybe Putin and China can make a dent there with some nukes.
A few minutes ago, CBS Morning News gave the suspect’s name. Mohammed is his first name. Last name is Barry, but I’m not sure of the spelling.
Somali MoHamMad no doubt…but !NO! , NOT TERRORISM. It was if you were dining in Nazareth. We are at war, declared 1400 years ago and it’s all in their book. Even the many illiterates know the teachings of hate…..do YOU?! Read and heed as if your life depends on knowing your fate. Oh, learn to observe, train, carry and be prepared to keep your head. Those around you will need your preparedness a well.
Thank you again Ms. Geller, stalwart, brave woman of courage.
Isn’t this terrible..Seems to be the new norm here in US…random attacks everywhere…if we don’t stop importing these muslims the US is doomed!
This is why I go about armed. Remember the Safety Tripod: Situational awareness, Profiling, and Rapid use of Firearms, in that order of importance and applied in that order. And remember the Derbyshire Rules. Derbyshire applies to moslems, too.
Latest:
“CBS News has learned that investigators have identified the suspected attacker as Mohammad Barry. CBS News homeland security correspondent Jeff Pegues reports that investigators were running down leads to try to determine if the attack was somehow tied to terrorist organizations. Pegues reports the suspected attacker has a Somali background, and officials believe he may have traveled to Dubai in the United Arab Emirates in 2012. Pegues reports that law enforcement is concerned that this incident has the hallmarks of the type of so-called “lone wolf” terrorist attack that they have been working to stop.”
Lone wolf my ass. Columbus has a near ‘no-go’ zone we call ‘Little Somali-land’.
You know Pamela I don’t think you even know what the definition of a “terrorist attack” is. This sounds more like a hate crime which is a completely different kind of idiocy.
He randomly attacked the patrons of the restaurant. That’s terrorism.
No it isn’t. Without a political message there is no terrorism. It does however sound like a hate crime, which as I have already stated in my original post is a completely different kind of idiocy. And I stand by that statement.
you have information Nazareth Restaurant was attacked for some reason OTHER than terror politics ???
Somali background
I have a funny feeling if you were the one being slashed you’d have felt pretty terrorized. Plus,the guy queried someone on his religion. So there IS a political message. And the message is: submit to Islam/Sharia Law or DIE.
What about the knifing in Israel?
Those attacks all have a political agenda in that the Palestinians want to force the Israelis to end their occupation of the West Bank, so yes, those qualify as terrorist attacks.
You sound like an expert on the subject of “idiocy”.
It appears someone told him it was time to follow Islam as it is intended, to hate and murder in the name of peace!
I love how there is no description of the attacker…..
I bet he was not of African culture.
When you can’t tell the good ones from the bad ones then kill them all and let God sort them out.
Here’s a clue — He will not have to do any sorting!
They will find. “No motive” again, scratching their heads.
why are they not telling about him yelling something about allah???? they are withholding that information.
Mohammad barry is the name
Get your CCW and start carrying folks things are going to get worse with Obama importing more refugees. Oh and a Muslim Cleric in Gaza a few months ago told Palestinians to stab Jews well it happened here at this restaurant. No description of the attacker that seems weird to me. Highly possible it was a Muzzie in my opinion since no one is describing the attacker…
Even the head of Fatah, Mahmoud Abbas, is encouraging Israeli arabs to knife people.
Attacker shot dead. Best news I heard all day.
Can’t be Islamic terrorism; a Muslim would NEVER do this kind of savage slaughter, Islam is a religion of peace!
Islam, a religion of peace.
Peace not always available in some markets. Terms and conditions apply.
Must be a vicious Mormon attacker.
Is it my imagination or has the name of the perpetrator not been released? I hope someone in the enemedia interviews the witnesses, because I would like to hear what they have to say about the attack — as opposed to law enforcement’s version.
Not one single word about it in mainstream news outlets.
Naming a restaurant “Nazareth” is a provocation. You’d think one of ∅bama’s enforcement agencies would have had a talk with this guy.
yeah, that’s what happened last night
Now that you mention it…
We should get the name soon, it can’t be that hard for the FBI to hunt-down and sanitize his social media pages.
Thank you Obama!
The problem isn’t radical Islam, its Islam, always has been always will be.
ASks the owner where hes from – then returns and tries to murder everyone and the police spokesperson says theres nothing to indicate it was more than a ” random attack ” ? If the owner had been from Syria or Iraq I wonder if it would’ve happened
see if Obastard has a beer summit with the terrorist.
Oops! Can’t. He’s dead. Bwaaa haaa haaa.
Here’s why I’m suspicious and angry: If I’m a cop and someone wielding a machete attacks patrons at a restaurant named NAZARETH, my first thought is that it is a possible terror attack by a Muslim. When I find out the guy is named Mohammad I’m going to be more suspicious. So why go out and say I have no reason to suspect it’s anything other than a “random” attack? Why not just SHUT UP and offer NO comment? Or, state the obvious: Nazareth is the birth place of Jesus and the attacker is named Mohammed…draw your own conclusions. No, this is just further proof that the media has been co-opted by enemies of America and all they do is spew propaganda and talking points from the far left.
Just as I expected, his name is mohammad… tells me everything I need to know.
“CBS News has learned that investigators have identified the suspected attacker as Mohammad Barry. CBS News homeland security correspondent Jeff Pegues reports that investigators were running down leads to try to determine if the attack was somehow tied to terrorist organizations.”
Just google [mohammad barry ohio]
Gee, isn’t Donald Trump CRAZY for calling of the temporary ban of Muslims until we can accurately vet them? Just nuts.
What an unkind man. How dare he.
“Gods don’t kill people. People with gods kill people.” Sad to see yet another attack spawned by disagreements over an imaginary sky-wizard.
I liked your comment. But atheists also kill over other things. Most crimes are not committed because of religious beliefs.
Yes but atheists look instead to Big Brother Wizards, and actually in the 20th Century proved to be far more deadly than the sky-wizards. Beyond that, moral equivalence attitudes claiming equal dangerousness between Allah/Muslims and Jesus/Christianity today are patently false. Maybe during the time of the Inquisition, but not today.
Atheists like Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin had no problems collectively slaughtering more people than any and all Christian atrocities put together.
BTW, your atheitard paradise already awaits you in the here and now. It’s called N. Korea dirtbag.
They are reporting that he was a Somali
CHAIRS. If you’re in a situation like that without a gun, and the restaurant has chairs, you can pick up a chair to bash the assailant with. It also makes an excellent shield at the same time. Blows across the back, back of the knees, groin, head, hands. If several protectors are attacking the assailant at once, with chairs, there’s a good chance he’ll fall or lose his weapon. And you can continue the beat-down with chairs until he is subdued. The only reason I mention it, is that people don’t usually think about picking up chairs, and just trust disable an assailant with their bodies. In knife attacks, that can end with fatalities to the protectors.
Clarification: if the assailant is on jihadi drugs, extreme, unrelenting force (with chairs if you’re using them) will have to be used until someone with a gun can take the assailant down. Tasers won’t work. Nothing but a clear shot or two or three.