Obama: Islamic State says they’re “holy warriors who speak for Islam. I refuse to give them legitimacy.”

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The Islamic State does not look to mullah Obama for legitimacy. They look to the Quran and hadith, where their actions are commanded and sanctioned.

Obama is sick with grandiosity. Devout Muslims look to Islam for their marching orders, not Obama. Obama may think he is Muhammad 2.0, but he isn’t. Jihadis don’t give a fig about what he says or doesn’t say — but he knows that, he was raised Muslim.

Obama: Islamic State says they’re “holy warriors who speak for Islam. I refuse to give them legitimacy.” (thanks to Robert Spencer):

What makes Obama think that the Islamic State is looking to him for legitimacy? Where did he get the idea that any Muslim looks to any non-Muslim to legitimize his understanding of Islam? The Qur’an calls Muslims “the best of people” (3:110) and unbelievers “the most vile of created beings” (98:6). Does Obama think that if he refrains from acknowledging the Islamic roots of jihad terrorism, that some young Muslim who is considering joining the jihad will think again and turn away? “Oh yes, I was going to travel to Syria to join the Islamic State until I heard Obama say that they were un-Islamic.” Ludicrous.

In reality, most Muslims worldwide get their understanding of what is legitimately Islamic and what isn’t from Muslim clerics, and there are many, many Muslim clerics who support jihad terrorism. The idea that refusing them legitimacy is behind Obama’s refusal to call them “Islamic terrorists” is just a dodge, and plays into the hands of groups such as the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), which makes ongoing efforts to ensure that Westerners are unaware of how jihadis use Islamic texts and teachings to justify what they do.

From Obama’s speech Wednesday at the Islamic Society of Baltimore:

Which brings me to my next point: As we protect our country from terrorism, we should not reinforce the ideas and the rhetoric of the terrorists themselves. I often hear it said that we need moral clarity in this fight. And the suggestion is somehow that if I would simply say, these are all Islamic terrorists, then we would actually have solved the problem by now, apparently. (Laughter.) Well, I agree, we actually do need moral clarity. Let’s have some moral clarity. (Applause.)

Groups like ISIL are desperate for legitimacy. They try to portray themselves as religious leaders and holy warriors who speak for Islam. I refuse to give them legitimacy. We must never give them that legitimacy. (Applause.) They’re not defending Islam. They’re not defending Muslims. The vast majority of the people they kill are innocent Muslim men, women and children. (Applause.)

And, by the way, the notion that America is at war with Islam ignores the fact that the world’s religions are a part of who we are. We can’t be at war with any other religion because the world’s religions are a part of the very fabric of the United States, our national character. (Applause.)

  • drummie

    Obama can’t be depended on to tell the truth except when he says he will stand with Islam. Either he is totally stupid, or thinks he is playing us for stupid. He has supported Islam over the United States since day one. He will not change now.

    • Don Grantham

      Was that the ‘lost episode’ of Sanford and Obama’s Son?

      • honeybee

        Sanford and Illegitimate Son !!!!!

  • pdxnag

    I have often wondered whether Obama saw Osama bin Laden as a competitor for being the one true world champion for the “one true religion” of Islam. Hence, like any turd world despot, he had his competitor knocked off.

  • rambler
  • dantheshoeman

    You, madam, are a fool who brings about FEAR in your SHEEP. I am not afraid of Muslims and NEVER WILL BE!!!

    • Don Grantham

      CONGRATULATIONS! The Most Interesting Man in the World applauds you…

      • honeybee

        He’s my favorite Drone.

    • roger

      There were some in Nazi Germany, who tried desperately to warn others of what was happening, but were mocked or ignored .

      • dantheshoeman

        Gotta go to the Nazi reference, huh? Somehow I don’t think ISIS is comparable. For the record, We didn’t have Nazi’s here who were just trying to make a living like the rest of us that were spat upon, decapitated, threatened with any type of bodily harm. That’s done on a daily basis now with Muslims. Hell we even arrested a 14 year old CHILD for making a working clock that some morons, including the jackass Tea Party Mayor of the town, called a bomb. So excuse me for having a little compassion!

        • roger

          Well, Dan there is certainly nothing wrong with compassion, I only hope it is not misdirected to the destruction of the donor.

          • dantheshoeman

            It wouldn’t be.

  • Shafiq Islam

    Most of the Muslims I know here think that Obama is one of them, pretending to be a Christian to gain power, and not an apostate. Obama isn’t trying to reform Islam, he is trying to allay the justified fears of non-Muslims. If potential converts knew the true nature of the faith, most would reject it. If most citizens of western countries knew it, they would restrict Muslim immigration and step up surveillance.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      If reading the qur’an and passing a test on its contents were mandatory before getting a drivers license, islam would be forbidden everywhere in the civilized world.

      • roger

        Also, if learning the Quran whilst passing your license test, there would be ‘no overtaking unless anti Semitic , do not turn left without beheading and raise the index finger to merge’.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          All driver examiners would have to be jewish.

          • roger

            Right wing special forces Jews who use Krav Maga to teach Muslim students to drive.

      • Shafiq Islam

        Mahou, that is true for most people because they have at least a modicum of rationality and compassion. However, people raised to be conservative Muslims and criminals everywhere react in the opposite way; they are drawn to the hatred, violence and abuse of women and embrace it.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Nothing can be done about them, but those with functioning brains who are not familiar with islam and its subhuman violence would be exposed to the real islam.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You’re right, but how wise is it for western countries to allow imams to proselytise in prisons? In the US, many criminals convert whilst incarcerated and there have been a number of these individuals implicated in terrorism. Tax revenues are being used to multiply enemies of the state, indeed of Judeo-Christian civilisation.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That could be cured with a bit of old fashioned jail, with no consideration for pandering to the clientele. Jail is not supposed to be fun, those sentenced should fear the thought of ever going back.

          • Shafiq Islam

            While that is arguable for people serving life sentences, most inmates are eventually released into society. Treatment for mental and substance use disorders benefits society, as does embrace of peaceable religion. Many inmates cannot be rehabilitated, but some can and those who can be, should be. Prison shouldn’t be pleasant or luxurious, but it should be humane.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Humane to a degree, many convicts are convicted of rather inhumane crimes against individuals or society. The punishment should fit the crime.

          • Shafiq Islam

            While I understand your sentiments, as a Christian I disagree. We cannot control what they do and what kind of people they are, but we can control what we do and what kind of people we are. Lowering ourselves to their level isn’t the answer. They should be held under austere but humane conditions, and those capable of rehabilitation should be given the opportunity. Those incapable should be detained long term to protect the public. Incapacitation, deterrence and rehabilitation are legitimate goals of the justice system, but retribution is not.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Occasionally society gets to the end of its rope when dealing with habitual criminals who will not make any attempt to mend their evil ways, or even admit to them. Every once in a while it is necessary to deal harshly with some of societies dregs. A long time ago I worked in the engineering department of a government department, which had its offices on a jail site. Occasionally we used inmate labor on some projects. Some were ok, some should have been flogged frequently.

          • Shafiq Islam

            Yes, it’s natural to feel that way. For all of us, forgiving people who have done awful things is difficult and takes time. Mother Teresa posted a sign in her orphanage with some good advice:

            People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered. Forgive them anyway.

            If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway.

            If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.

            If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you. Be honest and sincere anyway.

            What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight. Create anyway.

            If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous. Be happy anyway.

            The good you do today, will often be forgotten. Do good anyway.

            Give the best you have, and it will never be enough. Give your best anyway.

            In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Quote from Lao Tzu, something to aspire to, it is very difficult to be a Taoist sympathizer.

            To those who are good (to me), I am good; and to those who are not
            good (to me), I am also good;–and thus (all) get to be good. To those who are sincere (with me), I am sincere; and to those who are not sincere (with me), I am also sincere;–and thus (all) get to be sincere.

          • Shafiq Islam

            Wise words, and a fractal philosophy. It applies on to ourselves, our families and friends, our communities, our nations and our international relations. While there is a place for self-defence, it must be rigorously differentiated from retribution and applied only when peaceful means are of no avail. Had 9/11 been treated as what it was, mass murder by a small group of extremists rather than an act of war by a sovereign state, and had the vengeance not included millions of innocent persons, the world would be a lot better off today.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The whole response to the 9-11 murders was inappropriate and badly thought out. However, it is what it was, now, how to start to fix the mess is the big issue. Guilt and destruction of western civilization are not the answer.

          • Shafiq Islam

            But learning from mistakes and obeying international law are. Radical Muslims are scattered throughout the world, interspersed among innocent, moderate Muslims and many non-Muslims as well. Tough-talking stupidity such as Cruz’s comments about making sand glow (i.e., using nuclear weapons) might gain applause from the feeble minded, but it’s just a dangerous expansion of the same type of wrong thinking that has created the mess. A more nuanced, humane and lawful approach is needed, and the loudest voices shouldn’t be permitted to dominate the conversation. Too much is at stake for that.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            True, islam will have to realize that things are different in the world today. Failure to understand that violence will not resolve all issues or force submission to islam will have to become part of islam. There are lots of irrational responses to aggression, it is not wise to provoke a response that could very easily go out of control. Assured destruction is a concept islam will have to understand.

          • Shafiq Islam

            No, that won’t work. You are projecting. They often say, “We love death as you love life.” They don’t mind dying and threats of violence won’t deter them. ISIS has an apocalyptic scenario, and those who join it know that they will most likely be killed.

          • Leela Kim

            Listen you two lovebords, Shafiq and the Chinese guy Shojou. Thanks to Christian Bush and Christian Blair, now Muslim countries had to pay the price of their mistake, ISIS, aka their lovechild.

            Former Military Chief: Iraq War Was A ‘Failure’ That Helped Create ISIS

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iraq-war-isis-michael-flynn_us_565c83a9e4b079b2818af89c

            ‘I helped create ISIS’: Iraq War veteran says US policy caused ‘blowback’ in Middle East

            https://www.rt.com/usa/327404-usa-helped-create-isis-marine/

            Tony Blair is right: without the Iraq war there would be no ISIS

            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/25/tony-blair-is-right-without-the-iraq-war-there-would-be-no-isis

            And now Muslim countries must pay the price the illegal war US & UK had conducted.

            World’s Largest Islamic Organization Tells ISIS To Get Lost

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/indonesian-muslims-counter-isis_us_565c737ae4b072e9d1c26bda

            Saudi clerics declare Isis terrorism a ‘heinous crime’ under sharia law

            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/17/saudi-clerics-fatwa-declares-terrorism-heinous-crime-sharia-law

            Saudi Arabia announces 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism

            http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-idUSKBN0TX2PG20151215

            Thousands of Muslim clerics issue fatwa against evil Islamic State and other terror groups

            http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/625619/Muslim-Fatwa-ISIS-Islamic-State-al-Qaeda-Taliban-Islam-Paris-Attacks-Daesh

            Muslims Fight Back: 70,000 Muslim Clerics Issue Fatwa Against ISIS And Other Terrorist Organizations

            http://anonhq.com/muslims-fight-back-70000-muslim-clerics-issue-fatwa-against-isis-and-other-terrorist-organizations/

            Over 1000 Indian Islamic Scholars Issue World’s Biggest Fatwa Against ISIS

            http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Over-1000-Indian-Islamic-Scholars-Issue-World%E2%80%99s-Biggest-Fatwa-Against-ISIS/2015/09/09/article3018529.ece

            ‘ISIS is enemy No. 1 of Islam,’ says Saudi grand mufti

            http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/08/19/Saudi-mufti-ISIS-is-enemy-No-1-of-Islam-.html

            Indonesian Muslims Denounce ISIS Ideology

            http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/news/indonesian-muslims-denounce-isis-ideology/

          • Leela Kim

            Unlike Inquisition WHICH WAS founded LEGALLY by LEGAL authority Pope Gregory IX and LEGAL ruler Queen Isabella, the ILLEGAL ISIS created through ILLEGAL invasion of Iraq. Isis is confronted by every Muslim-majority countries. Every Islamic organizations condemn it. Even Saudi Arabia forms a coalition to combat this nasty UK-US love child.

          • Ichabod Crain

            The problem is not here – it is over there! Your propaganda is trying to divert our attention, like the magician that draws our attention to his right hand while he is palming the coin in his left.

            The problems caused by Islam are the enormous elephant in every room. How many people have been killed in its name? How many Muslims support death for blasphemy and apostasy? And you say there is no compulsion in religion…

          • honeybee

            Violence and the Sword have always been the Hallmark of Islam.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Who cares about the Inquisition? That happened 400 years ago islam0tard. Everything and anything done in the name of the Inquisition is nothing in comparison to what islamic-nazis like you did in the 20th century alone — when u f’ing a$$holes slaughtered 6 million Jews, Christians, Hindus and animists all over the Mid-East, Turkey/Armenia, the Sudan and E. Timor.
            Please take ur holey quranus, put it between ur knees and squeeze.

          • Ichabod Crain

            Islam created ISIS. If Islam didn’t exist, neither would they.

          • Demsci

            Leela, first of all, where do you stand on Democracy, so that we know. It is not a question of respect. Should you be in favor of a theocracy under Islam, I for one would respect you for it. Then I would also what motivates you.

            You pose before us the question of who is to blame for ISIS? And you seem to conclude that some are guilty (the West) and others are innocent (The Muslims).

            But to me for ISIS the Muslims are the more responsible, they are the ones in the Ummah with the ISIS-terrorists, none of which is not Muslim. ISIS has Muslim’s holy texts as guidelines and inspiration, not our democratic ones.

            It is not ever a question of guilt or innocence, only of the ability to change of people.
            You blaming our side indicates that you consider Muslims as kind of children, animals that are unchangeable. Just as if you say: it is useless to hold Muslims accountable, it is only useful to hold infidels accountable, for only they can change, only they are sane adult humans.

          • Shafiq Islam

            Leela, many of your grievances are legitimate. However, violent retailiation is always and everywhere wrong, whether done by western countries or by Muslims. There can be no excuse for deliberate killing of civilians, period.

            The difference is this. When Bush and Blair committed their atrocities, including what Justice Robert Jackson called “the supreme crime of international law, waging aggressive war” at the Nuremberg Trials, they were acting in violation of not only international law, but against Christian Just War Principles and against the teachings of Jesus. The Roman Catholic Church and most mainline Protestant churches opposed the war on Iraq; sadly, the Southern Baptists and many evangelicals favoured it.

            So the difference is this: when the US and its allies engaged in war crimes, they did so against the clear teachings of Jesus and against the sentiments of the world’s largest Christian churches.

            What ISIS and its like do is in conformance with Qur’an, ahadith and sira. Although many Muslims denounce ISIS, the fact is that its actions are in accordance with Muhammad’s teaching and practice.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            It would be hoped that islam will figure out that it needs a reformation, which will be resisted, but is the only way islam will survive. Its temporary victories are defeats the instant it starts fighting within itself.

          • Shafiq Islam

            Yes, it needs a reformation. However, that has been rendered impossible by aggressive US foreign policy. The US, through its Saudi allies, is spreading radical Islam far and wide. Communism is pretty much gone now, but the useless bulwark the US erected thrives and grows. Until the US confronts KSA, Qatar, Kuwait and others of its friends who are deliberately spreading radical ideas amongst Muslims, the problem will only get worse. Destablising governments and angering people by killing civilians and occupying countries make it worse.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Yes, it’s all the fault of the USA that muslims can’t “reform” their faith? Just like the 67+ years of islamic terrorism against Ysrael is really the fault of the Jews living in Ysrael isn’t it? Or maybe the US right?

          • Shafiq Islam

            The US, through its Saudi allies, did in fact reform the Muslim faith by funding Wahhabi mosques and madrasas all over the world at US behest.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            The US wasn’t funding muslim mosques — at least before the latest current crop of corrupt politicos. What Saudi Barbaria does or does not do is not the responsibility of the USA.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I never said that the US was funding Wahhabi mosques, but that its close ally Saudi Arabia is. The US encouraged this during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and has never demanded that the Saudis end the practice.
            http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/09/sleeping-with-the-devil-how-u-s-and-saudi-backing-of-al-qaeda-led-to-911.html

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            “The US encouraged this during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan”. Proof please.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The thing muslims do not realize, is that eventually, if civilization gets annoyed with them, is that it will stop a civilized response, reverting to some very barbaric practices that even subhumans of islam will be terrified of.

          • Shafiq Islam

            Yes, that is based in Qur’an, Ahadith and Sira. However, the Muslim religion was more peaceable and tolerant before the US encouraged the Saudis to radicalise it.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Perhaps, but the individual muslims who blindly follow will one day be accountable for their actions, they will not like the results of their personal interrogations in the end.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            What patent BULLSHIT. Pi$$lam and muslums have never been tolerant and peaceable unless the kaffir al najjis was living under dhimmitude. Muslums committed genocides against the kaffir al najjis throughout the 20th century and even long before that.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Are you insane? To even propose islam needed a reformation in any f’ing muslum state would get you arrested or murdered in a heartbeat.

          • farflung

            I said the same to him over a month ago, He is supposedly Pakistani and posting as he does his head would hit the floor before he could finish one post

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That is why I don;t live in an islamic state, and will make sure I never do. Muslims will be leaving, we won’t be.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            The islamic state might be coming to you. The non-muslims of Dearbornistan, Michigan never wanted to live under Shari’a law, but now they do. It was your “moderate” muslums who took over Dearbornistan, not the raving, ranting, murderous jihadis.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Sometimes you get who you voted for, Dearborn made its decision, it will rot in hell because of it.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            They were probably suckered by “moderate”, “decent” muslums.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            It they are that stupid, they deserve it.

          • Steve

            Dr Zudhi Jasser is pushing for islamic reform in the U.S. He actually has some well thought out videos on You Tube and a website.

            A while back I heard the story of an imam who was removed for speaking out against islam-naturally. Dr Nidal Alsayyed began receiving threats on his life from “you know who”.

            Of course the trust factor is going to be tough with this given the background of the last decade or so with islamists. I say that the test is to judge by actions and not words.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Who cares what Jasser says in the US? Let’s see him bring his fantasy-based islam to any muslum state and see what happens to him, or even Dearbornistan, Michigan for that matter.

          • Steve

            That’s a natural feeling given how islamism has been going for sure but if reform is possible then it would have to likely be from within. I am skeptical as well and but i would like to see action before extending any hope. Still, 1400 years is a long time for old habits to form. I would like to see them take on dearbornistan and all those radical training camps around the country too along with a lot of other things.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Absolutely, there is an ongoing discussion here with Leela who keeps babbling gibberish about the fundamental theory of islam, conveniently disregarding the facts and islam’s present day practices. Islam is stuck in a distant subhuman past that will eventually destroy it from within.

          • Steve

            Yes, I believe the fundamentalist approach is what is actually contributing to the resurgence of radical islamism since it promotes the warlike sharia and jihad. One thing that might possibly work for reformation in islam is reversing abrogation and then reenacting meccan doctrine (its already in place for them) and eliminating most if not all of medina doctrine. Of course to fundamentalists under the policy of abrogation that would essentially be apostasy to them. The end result no doubt will likely be a split much like the catholic/ protestant in christianity. If such a reform in islam occurred it would then be appropriate for muslims to choose the one instead of the two contradictory versions of islam that have stifled all change since as you mentioned the 7th century. If meccan islam breaks off onto its own it would offer a viable option for those shackled to abrogation.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            There is some room, even in islam, for a degree of reason in their faith, but, that will require a degree of intelligence that is not available in contemporary islam. The primary focus on violent hedonism is excessive at this time.

          • joker

            That is basically the scenario of the Camorra in Naples. But in the meantime they make about 30 billion dollar per year.

          • Steve

            A roach will be a roach whether you fumigate it or not. Its better not having them around.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Not unlike islam.

          • Juanita

            Assured destruction is not a concept Islam will understand since the jihadists believe is they who will assure destruction.

          • Steve

            Islamists don’t have to understand force when they are eliminated. It doesn’t matter if they believe they are going to see allah or satan. They just need to be stopped from destroying the west and others in their own countries whether by reform or otherwise.

            I believe that lukewarm religion and/or apologetics will only enable them and it is not possible to carry out a “perfect” christianity with islamists since our decisions so often, especially in positions of leadership, involve other lives.

            In other words, i can lay down my life and pray that god intervenes and get away with that but your neighbor might not be happy if the justice system decides your daughter is not a victim of an honor killing and tells you to go home and pray.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            It is time for another crusade, only this time, no more Mr. Nice Guy.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Duh, islam can’t “realize” anything because it’s a f’ed up, Jew hating, totalitarian, violent death ideology. It’s not a human being. It’s the f’ing muslums that are the problem, they are the ones who actualize the retarded ideology of pi$$lam.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            True, the world would be making progress in any number of fields, where it not having to deal with the ignorance of primitive subhuman islam.

          • Juanita

            If “moderate” Muslims want the West to stand for them,then they must stand with the West against those Muslims who following the dictates of the Koran will kill or enslave non-Muslims.

            It has been stated that those who do not protest evil are cooperating with it. Moderate Muslims do not raise their voices or act againist the jihadists. But then they scream loud and long about their fear of backlash for the acts of the jihadists against the West.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You seem to forget that the radicalisation of Muslims was a US plan, carried out through Saudi sponsorship of mosques and madrasas worldwide because Carter and Reagan thought it would help fight communism. You forget that US atrocities and killing of civilians have further radicalised them and made them want revenge. You seem not to understand what we Christians, and even moderate Muslims, face in countries thus radicalised.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Total BULLSHIT. Dear lying muslum, how do you explain away the 80 million Hindus slaughtered/enslaved/forcibly converted to pi$$lam over hundreds of years. When Tamerlane, the great muslum hero (spit) was slaughtering/enslaving Hindus by the hundreds of thousands in India, there was no United States of America. When f’ing muslums like you burned down the ancient libraries of Alexandria and Buddhist library at Nalanda in India there was no USA.
            How do you explain away the 4500 Jews slaughtered in Granada in El Andalus by muslums?
            Please GFY — along w/the your fellow islamic apologists.

          • joker

            I believe Shafiq is talking about a more recent past. You are wrong in this, I read his post and it makes sense. The United States used radical muzzrats for defeating communism. And also I believe they had this cunning plan in getting rid of Assad in Syria, and that is why we have ISIS. Correct me when I am wrong, but they (ISIS) seem to be trained by US special forces.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            The muslums slaughtered a million kaffir al najjis at the end of the 20th century in the Sudan — and you want me to believe that (or the ongoing genocide of Christians in Nigeria, or the genocide of Christians/Yezidi in Iraq) is because of the USA? Get. F$%king. Bent.

          • joker

            Basically yes because the United States of America is not acting on their behalf.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Yes, musscum always have excuses for killing/persecuting/enslaving/raping people of other faiths and you know what? I don’t give a FFF about their excuse du jour.

          • farflung

            Remember we have saved democracy twice in the past century and yes we do not owe the world anything. But the charity of the American people has limits. We like Israel even help our enemies in time of crisis , earthquakes, tsunamis, on and on. Never any mention of that.

          • farflung

            Read the above post, Much of this war and rise of Isis is the Opium trade. Greater value than gold. Oh and by the way the Muslim Brotherhood goes back to 1928, long before Israel existed. No the fools of Isis are but fodder for death too support the Opium trade.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I haven’t explained anything away, nor have I ever denied or justified Islamic wars of conquest–or any wars for that matter. You attempt to make of me a straw man to attack by lying about what I have said. You call me a liar, but you are the liar. I never said what you claim.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Dear lying islamic a$$hole, you stated islamic “radicalization” is all down to the USA. I clearly proved you’re full of BS.
            Why don’t we talk about the 2.5 million to 3 million Hindus slaughtered in Bangladesh by muslums in the 1970’s? Was that also due to the actions of the US “radicalizing” muslums?
            You’re BS argument is the same one Hamas makes to justify their terrorist attacks against Israel — the Jews made us do it.

          • farflung

            Your on to him and a couple others coming to this site.. What their game plan is, I’m not still sure, however it bears watching for all of us.

          • joker

            Well my “Lebanese” I have no plan but I know I am a hater of Islam. Lets say due to some experiences and more due to reading. You should do the same, meaning reading.

          • farflung

            Yes they used Osama Bin laden. Yes to running the Russians out. However, the lust for blood and death once in a man cannot come out. Through out history, all noble causes return to the ways of death and destruction. Look at the ancient assassins, the Italian Mafia. Once noble causes. The only recent memory terrorist, Anwar Sadat, turned his back on terrorism and he was assassinated. Killing is the purest form of opium, The more you kill the more the need to kill to reach that elevated high. Only too familiar with this.

          • Juanita

            I stand by my comment. They want the West to have the courage to defend them, indeed to put lives on the line for them. They need to display the same type of courage they are demanding.

          • Shafiq Islam

            They remember what George H.W. Bush did, calling upon the Kurds and Shi’a to rise up against Saddam and promising them help, then leaving them to the dictator’s tender mercies. Why would they trust you?

          • Juanita

            They trust us enough to be in this country and partake of the benefits of living here. If they did not, they would not be coming here in droves.

            A man cannot serve two masters. They can either be loyal to this country or to Islam. Their silence im the face of jihad shows were their loyalties lie.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            What’s the difference between “radical” muslums and “moderate” muslums? Tactics.
            I give your practice of Al Taqiyya a 10 out of 10, you’ve done an excellent job sandbagging the retards here who believe in “good” muslums.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You have that characteristic of people with Borderline Personality Disorder, seeing things only in black and white. People are either entirely good or entirely bad to you. Thus all Muslims or even Christians from historically Muslim families are bad, and all actions by the US and its allies are completely good and perfect in your eyes. Can you not see that the Kurds bravely fighting ISIS are doing a good thing and that US actions have made things worse?

            You even go so far as to praise groups that murder both Muslims and Christians. You’re willing to sacrifice innocent Christians on the altar of your hatred of all Muslims. You cite horrific medieval Muslim atrocities, but if all 1.5 billion Muslims were the jihadis you imagine, the world would be in much bigger trouble than it is.

          • farflung

            Seems your the one with the disorder thinking Americans or a bit on the stupid side. Going to back to old tactics to we figure out what to do for you.

          • Shafiq Islam

            US foreign policy has been disastrous for the past 20 years at least. The Neoconservative fantasy that if a secular dictator is deposed, a pro-western, secular democracy will automatically spring up has been discredited by events, and your own government admits that terrorism has increased since you started all of your aggressive interventions. Chalmers Johnson’s concept of “blowback” has been vindicated. I detest the Muslim religion, although I do not hate Muslims as individuals. I see that your strategy has been counterproductive, and it’s time for you to rethink it. As Einstein said, “Problems cannot be solved at the same level of thinking that created them.”

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            “Radical” and “moderate” muslums, the delineation w/little difference aside from tactics.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I would like to hear from you, in detail, your proposal for dealing with the conflict between some Muslims and western society.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            I like Angola’s solution. Mass deportations, destruction of mosques, seizure of assets. Almost the same things muslums are doing (or have already done) to Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Zoroastrians, Baha’i and Jews in places like Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq, Pakstain, Kashmir, North Africa, the Mid-East, Nigeria — except w/o the mass murder. I don’t give a FFF what happens to muslums — “moderate”, “radical” or anywhere in-between. Muslums have 57 islamic cesspool states they can root in — states where non-muslims are systematically persecuted and/or slaughtered and/or forcibly converted to islam and/or enslaved. لن استسلم.

          • Shafiq Islam

            If you had actually read a number of my previous posts instead of attacking me personally because you wrongly suspect me of being a Muslim, you would have seen that I advocated the following:
            1. Rescue Christians, Yazidis and others in harm’s way and relocation of them to western countries.
            2. Ban Muslim immigration to western countries except for carefully selected dissidents at risk.
            3. Provide adequate, humane refugee camps in the region in lieu of allowing them to enter the US or EU.
            4. Withdraw US and NATO forces from Muslim countries, with relocation of some critical assets to Israel.
            5. Monitor mosques and Muslim schools in western countries, with strict criminal penalties for advocacy of terrorism.
            6. Ban Muslim conversions in prisons.

            Do you really find that so objectionable?

          • BrunoPBuhr

            It was an act of war by a sovereign state. Those that planned it were allies who lived inside of Afghanistan and were protected by the government. Iraq was a totally different story.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The truth about that fiasco will never come out, the fact is that remedial action will have to be taken, for any number of legitimate reasons. Preservation of civilization being one of them.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Until Obama and Merkel have been removed from office all we can do is hold on to whatever civilization is left.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That is about the best that is available under existing circumstances. There will be much work once they are relegated to the dung heap of history.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Duh, the “truth about the fiasco” is that Afghanistan was providing safe harbor for Al Qaida, just like Pigistain was providing safe harbor for OBL.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            There is what apparently happened, then there is why it happened and who did it for what reason.

          • Steve

            As much as media paints no saddam wmd found and even hollywood hyped that angle – green zone – the kurds were evidence of genocide by iraq and the country needed closure finding bin laden so some of the US response can be understood. It’s been clearer as things have progressed for the worse that 7th century islamismis are the enemy here and around the world.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Sooner or later islam would have made an attempt to subjugate the civilized world, as is happening now. There is no way a major conflict could have been avoided. Nor is there any way another major conflict which has already started in europe can be avoided.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Well I found some of Muhammad’s photos…

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nothing like a mincing muslim to show diversity. Always suspected many practices alternate life styles.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Can’t seem to find the one with the goat.

          • Mahou Shoujo
          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Wake up and smell the coffee. It’s not Islam, the f’ed up, Jew hating ideology that’s taking over the world — it’s f’ing muslims.
            Pi$$lam would be nothing but an abhorrent, antisemitic curiosity like Nazism if it weren’t for f’ing muslums.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Muslims have an irrational hated of Jews and everyone else. Noting can be done about them because they do not have the intelligence to see how stupid they are.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            I disagree, muslum antisemitism is extremely rational — it’s based on the Jew hatred found throughout all their holey books and the actions of their most holey man in slaughtering/enslaving/pillaging/expelling all the Jews in Saudi Barbaria. If you’re a muslum, either your holeiest man was a Jew hating mass murderer or Jews are those “most despised by allah”. There is no middle ground.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            It does seem to be that way, but there is the occasional instance where they endure each other for various reasons.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Not really, nearly all the Jews who used to live in muslum states like Yemen, Al Andalus (where 4500 Jews were slaughtered by muslums in Granada) and Morocco were routinely persecuted by their muslum overlords. Nearly all the Jews who used to reside outside of Ysrael in the Mid-East and N. Africa have been ethnically cleansed by f’ing muslums, in the exact, same way these same muslums are doing to Christians now.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            True, there are a lot of places where islam is more subhuman than others, they will all have to be dealt with.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            In any place muslums have political power, islamic barbarity and persecution of the unbeliever is practiced.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You seem to have forgotten that the gassing of the Kurds was done during the Iran-Iraq war, in which Saddam was encouraged and supported by the US, and that the US provided him with targeting information to attack the Kurds. Those weapons were long gone by the time of the 2003 invasion, just as the UN inspectors had said.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Saddam, ur gr8 muslum hero, was firing SCUD rockets into Israel lying muslum worm. If the USA didn’t go in, Israel would’ve attacked Iraq unilaterally muslum pig.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You really have trouble with logic, don’t you? Saddam was no hero, and I have never claimed he was. What I have said, and what is undoubtedly true, is that Iraq was better off under him than it is now, and that he did keep radicals in check.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            So when ur muslum hero Saddam fired SCUD rockets into Ysrael that wasn’t radical?
            Please take ur holey quranus, put it between ur knees and squeeze.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You still do not understand that Saddam was secular. He did that to retaliate against the US for luring him into Kuwait and then declaring war on him; the US mainland was beyond his reach but Israel, which was a noncombatant nation in that war, was nearby. As I have repeatedly said, it was a war crime. You know very well that I reject the Qur’an and the Muslim religion.

          • Steve

            Hey, I thought you had jumped off an office tower that had been hit by a plane. Good old U.S. bashing again i see-typical and compassionate of you. Everyone knows how tough it was for poor saddam to pull a trigger, or a knife, or an ice pick, a crowbar….

          • Shafiq Islam

            In your uncritical worship of your Infallible State, you implicitly repudiate Jesus’s teachings and promote great evil. Entirely lost on you is the irony that you are doing exactly what bin Laden expected and wanted you to do, and the results have been exactly what he hoped. Your inability to admit that your state was wrong precludes correcting the errors and ensures that things will just continue to spiral downwards.
            http://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-08-24/bin-laden-wanted-us-to-invade-iraq-author-says/648888
            http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-war-bin-laden-wanted/

          • Steve

            Once more the holier-than-thou, flag-waving christian, “compassionate islam”, u.s. bashing, nationalist bashing, apologetic promotion for pacified christian islamist enabling show strikes in all of its polar dysfunction. You should sell tickets with your juggling act!

          • Shafiq Islam

            Your incapacity for nuance and compassion are the problem here. I never said that Islam is compassionate, as your mendacious use of quotation marks would indicate. Einstein was certainly right that nationalism is a disease of small minds, and your absolute refusal to see that your foreign policy has greatly exacerbated the problem ensures that no solution will be forthcoming. It is you who juggle, quoting Romans in support of your state worship.

          • Steve

            Once more the holier-than-thou, flag-waving christian, “compassionate islam”, u.s. bashing, nationalist bashing, apologetic promotion for pacified christian islamist enabling show strikes in all of its polar dysfunction. You should sell tickets with your juggling act!

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Yes, it’s all the fault of the kaffir al najjis that muslums are barbaric a$$holes slaughtering/persecuting/enslaving the kaffir al najjis all over the world. GFY.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I never said that, and in fact have numerous times pointed out how Qur’an, Ahadith and Sira support genocidal violence. You are unable to understand that most Muslims do not act on those vile precepts, and that political events drive radicalisation of previously docile Muslims, as even the head of the US CIA admits in a predictably oblique way. Many eminent political analysts insist that it does. Terrorist groups such as al Qaeda and ISIS cite Muslim casualties, especially civilian ones, in their recruiting materials. Your preference for stupidity and ignorance as a basis for foreign policy, your sociopathic refusal to acknowledge, much less correct, wrongs done by your side guarantee continued escalation of terrorism.
            http://blogs.cfr.org/zenko/2015/06/01/does-u-s-foreign-policy-spur-national-security-threats/

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Please prove the US encouraged Saddam to use mustard gas on Kurds. Please prove the US in anyway provided Saddam w/said mustard gas.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You have a very serious cognitive problem, impaired reality testing. You cannot distinguish between what I have written in reality and in your hateful fantasies. Over and over you accuse me of endorsing radicalism and violence, when in fact I never have. Understanding why people do evil things is not condoning their acts. I did not say that the US provided the gas, but that they provided targeting information, as the following article shows:
            http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Um, dear lying muslum, your article has nothing to do w/the Kurds, but instead discusses the Iran-Iraq War. So I’d guess any cognition problems must be your own.

          • Shafiq Islam

            The gas attacks took place during that war. I’m surprised you don’t know that. If you had actually read the article, you’d have seen that it mentions the attacks on Kurds specifically: “By 1988, U.S. intelligence was flowing freely to Hussein’s military. That March, Iraq launched a nerve gas attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja in northern Iraq.”

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            And how is the US responsible for the actions of Saddam again? Did anyone in the US force your “secular”, “moderate” muslum super-hero to use mustard gas against the kurds?

          • Shafiq Islam

            The CIA was giving him targeting information, which made them co-conspirators. Do I really have to explain something that obvious to you?

            Saddam was a brutal tyrant, but he was not especially religious and his state was secular in nature. But when he was at his worst, when he was committing the atrocities you mentioned, he was your ally and beneficiary.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8081c3743f3e753295c9fa67541a07a11da117c093fe694e7dcc0c40e1a77b5d.jpg

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Soooo is there any crime where tickling is an appropriate punishment?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Taking all the covers on a cold night.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Good start…

          • Mahou Shoujo

            As I am very ticklish, the law of unintended consequences rapidly comes into play.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            “Well I was tossin and turnin
            Tossin and turnin…”

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That will be all thats left when the secret “ninja twist” is used and the covers end up where they belong.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            After a song ….or two I’ve never experienced the ninja twist, but I know a few dance moves

          • Mahou Shoujo

            The horizontal boogie is fun, occasionally.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Everyone smiles at this move….see, made you smile!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Got cat hair in my cleavage, fuzzy nutless is feeling affectionate today.

          • BrunoPBuhr
          • Mahou Shoujo

            In my case it would be one very short step.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            My lips enjoy short steps

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Look at those claws.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Bigger then Markel’s

          • Juanita

            Let us hear from you when one of those humanely treated criminals who is released back into society harms you or one or more of your loved ones.

          • Shafiq Islam

            And you think that brutalising them in prison will make them more peaceful when they leave prison?

          • farflung

            You are trying to turn Americans against their own country. Suck them in with Christianity then suddenly the topic goes to you know what the Americans did, however never a mention of the good this Nation America has done. JIHADI YOUR NUTS ARE IN THE NUT CRACKER,

          • Shafiq Islam

            Do you really think that in a democracy re-evaluating grave errors and correcting them is turning against your country? I have made points relevant to the discussion at hand, and you expect me to provide a litany of irrelevant praise to convince you that I don’t hate you? I am not like you, and I do not hate anyone.

          • joker

            You are wrong my dear, I have been in prison for four years out of a six year sentence in high security and it was a lovely time.
            We were laughing all the time, I am afraid to say. But that was in an European prison, I must add.

          • farflung

            Maybe you need to spend some time in a US prison system. Do your butt some good.

          • joker

            Hey I am a good man now. Two times in prison is enough, or not?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Yes, club med, no wonder all the criminal muslims want to live there, you treat everyone but productive taxpayers like kings, the tax payers get to pay and are treated like animals.

          • joker

            Fair point and I do agree. Some rapefugees choose Europe, Western Europe, because prisons seem to be like Hilton- I speak about 25 years ago, probably prison today is even much nicer.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            When compared to the hell of any islamic nation, a medieval torture chamber would be a significant improvement.

          • joe1429

            Go Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          As usual the muslim apologist resorts to the delineation without a difference. Your feeble attempt to create a “moderate” islam where none exists is pathetic — as is your claim that there are “good” muslums. The only difference between “radical” pi$$lam and “moderate” pi$$lam is one of tactics.

      • Fanfaron2011

        Well, I–for one–have read the Qur’an, and I don’t know how anyone can call it a “religion”! I call it a CULT!

        • Mahou Shoujo

          That is putting in nicely, the qur’an is the violent insane rationalization of every crime that an allegedly human being can commit.

          • Cate

            Yes. Beheading, amputation, stoning, throat slitting, bombings, mass murder, acid attacks, crucifixion, hangings, shootings, clitorectomies, all manners of mutilation, animal abuse, pedophilia, baby thighing, misogyny, beastiality, necrophilia, even cannabalism are all sanctioned in the name of their stupid ‘god’ and some evil guy they choose as their ‘prophet.’ Have i missed anything? Wherever there is islam, there is evil and death.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nope, you have summed islam up quite accurately.

        • joker

          Put petrol on fire, pislam is basically organized crime with a so-called religious coat. Also here in the south of Italy organized crime (Mafia, Camorra and ‘Ndrangheta) go to church.

          • joe1429

            Yes…legal perverts

        • Steve

          Richard Hobbs former u.s. army colonel, professor, and author who worked over 55 years internationally in the mideast and in the u.s. in the pentagon and the state dept has a link for “Why Islam is a Cult”.

          http://newenglishreview.org/Richard_Hobbs_/Why_Islam_is_a_Cult/

          You may also have also heard of Ayaan Hirsi Ali who grew up in an islamic world. She left years ago and now exposes the typical life of islam under sharia and jihad influence that many apologetics deny. Many like to blame the current resurgence of islam on the west as somehow being nothing but negativity without examining the inherent failure of islam as both a religion and a culture including politically as revealed by Hirsi and many others. The ambiguity in koran, hadith, and sura doctrine would make any good liar and/or sociopath proud.

          http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/23/ayaan-hirsi-ali-obamas-strategy-on-islamic-extremism-has-failed/

      • joker

        They can always ride a Camel, much more reliable. Filthy rich muzzrat princes drive their Ferrari (after paying for their driving licenses, because by passing they would not succeed) the Ferrari stops in the desert due to lack of petrol. They leave the car and go on with a Camel. Anyway, how come muzzrat coutries have princes, kings and the rest. That is very anti-pislam.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          Islam, in addition to all its other insanity is extremely arrogant and class conscious. They have a very strong “better than you” attitude that carries throughout all of islamic society.

    • John Miller

      Who else but a Muslim would have inscribed on their wedding ring, “There is no God except Allah.” A ring he wore for 10 years before he even got married. Anyone who wears a ring with that inscription, has a very close connection to Islamic beliefs, religion and society.

      http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/bombshell-obamas-wedding-ring-says-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

    • roger

      Interesting, I always wondered what Muslims in other countries thought about Obama’s real leanings. I guess if they perceive him to be a true Muslim, just fulfilling mechanically some kind of Christian identity in order to establish the grand plan, ( the establishment of a world caliphate ) then we were right all along. ( Sounds conspiratorial ) , but when all the evidence collated, it would surely demonstrate this fact.

    • farflung

      UBED SHAFIG “YourAs horrific as Islamists are, the Southern Baptists do in fact bay for blood and claim God’s blessings on wars of aggression and wanton slaugher of civilians. As a Christian, I consider both sides wrong and equally guilty.” Your post from a day ago, said I shall keep an eye on you: You have changed your Avatar “CLOAK” Interesting Jihadist, trying to crawl under the tent in the disquise of being a Christian convert. Lots of Southern Baptists in this nation and most do not take kindly to some UBED in Pakistan trying to put a negative spin on them. For now UBED, I shall resume watching you very close.

      • joker

        Farflung you descented by Lebanese, you must have just woken up and had a go with Shafiq Islam. I told you already many times that the best way to go to Syria and joining ISIS (or Shampoo) is over Beirut. Tell the local Hezbollah you want to go there (not telling them for ISIS) and disappear.
        Please send your lovely postcard from Sham (or Shampoo) on this forum. Many thanks.

        • farflung

          I’m impressed, you and Shafiq, must be sweet on each other, do you play the Butch and Shafiq the passive one. lol Bet you both like foam baths.

          • joker

            That is funny! In case Shafiq is an imposter that is his problem. I had Turkish friends who were Christian but with Muslim names, the same in Lebanon. That is how it goes. And Shafiq already explained he converted to Christianity out of Islam. Why should he change his name? Again, if he is lying that is his problem.

      • Shafiq Islam

        The fact is that the Southern Baptists did strongly support the unjustifiable and counterproductive war on the Iraqi people when the Roman Catholic Church and most mainline Protestant churches opposed it. If you are going to quote me, at least do it accurately and do not mangle my grammar to match your own, please. Your false accusations and bullying do not diminish the guilt of the Southern Baptists, which Laurence Vance has documented:
        https://www.lewrockwell.com/2007/08/laurence-m-vance/the-decline-and-fall-of-the-southern-baptists/

        Documentation of Roman Catholic and mainline Protestant opposition is here:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/28/us/beliefs-churches-ethicists-loudly-oppose-proposed-war-iraq-but-deaf-ears-are.html

    • AndrewDrive

      If people really knew from whence islam had its birth (hint: the abyss, see Old Testament) they would be terrified; many would take action.

    • Infidel Knight

      If not for Apostasy, Islam would have gone extinct by the 9th century.

      • Shafiq Islam

        Do you mean the death penalty for apostasy?

        • Infidel Knight

          Yes and the threats short of it. In Islam, once your in; you’re in for life.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I don’t think that was the main factor, although it is powerful and threatens my life to this day. Remember that that period was one of rapid Muslim conquest, and men fighting for the Muslim religion got war spoils, including both material wealth, slaves and women to rape.

            I have lived my entire life in a Muslim country, and I understand the hold the religion has on its adherents. It’s really quite spooky.

          • Infidel Knight

            All you cite is true. It was a time of expansion due to their numbers going in. The question being how did they get and keep that many that allowed for the “expansion.”

          • Shafiq Islam

            That’s a complex question, but one has to admit that the Muslim system of indoctrination creates extraordinary resilience. Today, growth of the Muslim population is mostly due to very high fertility rates at a time when fertility of almost all other groups has fallen dramatically. In western countries, there are some conversions; most are among criminals and people with mental health problems.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That is a problem for islam, is how to control the marginally intelligent specimens that are attracted to it, especially when they start accusing the islamic establishment of apostasy.

          • Shafiq Islam

            A propos that, did you notice that Leela has a bee in her hijab because of our conversations? :)

          • Mahou Shoujo

            She does seem to be a bit crankier than normal, as well as much more repetitive, usually that is the indication of a failed argument, with the lie bing angrily and loudly repeated. Too bad she is so dense, it would be almost nice to have an intelligent conversation with a rational muslim, if such a creature exists.

          • Shafiq Islam

            It looks to me like she copies and pastes most of her posts. Fanatics of any stripe are much more controlled by their amygdalas–loci of anger and fear–than by their cerebral cortices, loci of rational thought.

            I had a truly wonderful experience today. One of my graduate students, a nonobservant Muslim who will soon be baptised, brought his 14 year old brother to our Mass. They are rational, fundamentally decent people and that is exactly why they are leaving Islam and becoming Christians.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That is great to hear, I will remember you and them in prayers. Always nice to ehar of a graduate student that accomplices something useful.

          • Shafiq Islam

            We’re engineers, and doing useful things is our raison d’etre.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Yes, am one myself, but don’t tell anyone, pass myself off as a professional mud wrestler, if truth were know my ancestors would feel shame.

          • Shafiq Islam

            An engineer in the closet, huh?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Shhhhhhh, the kids are listening.

  • puhiawa

    I think most people have learned to ignore this delusional nitwit.

  • karl59

    Since jihad is a Moslems second obligation this should come as no real
    surprise.

  • rex

    Barry is like a box of cracker jacks, you never know what useless, idiotic prize is coming out next

  • Mahou Shoujo

    Hussain is trying to make a place for himself in the history books, he will go down as the first village idiot to get elected president.

  • Dr. Doomsday

    In Obama’s brain, everything is about him.

    Dangerously delusional.

  • winmatt53

    He is a traitor to the Constitution and to All Americans!!!

    • MattBracken

      Grand Ayatollah Obama.

    • Leela Kim

      Islam as Merciful Religion – Even during War !

      # You shall not kill any person – for GOD has made life sacred (Quran)

      # Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them KINDNESS and deal with them JUSTLY; surely Allah loves the doers of justice. Allah only forbids you, with regard to those WHO FIGHT YOU for (your) Faith, AND DRIVE YOU OUT of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong. (Quran)

      # Permission to fight is given to those (i.e. believers against disbelievers), who are fighting them, (and) because they (believers) have been wronged, and surely, Allah is Able to give them (believers) victory.–> [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished MONASTERIES, CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND MOSQUES in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. (Quran)

      # Fight in the way of Allah those WHO FIGHT YOU but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors (Quran)

      # If they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them (Quran)

      # Do not say to one who offers you peace, “You are not a believer,” seeking the spoils of this world. For GOD possesses infinite spoils. Remember that you used to be like them, and GOD blessed you. (Quran)

      # But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things. (Quran)

      # And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you (O Muhammad), grant him protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know. (Quran)

      # And they (the righteous) give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the CAPTIVES [Saying], “We feed you only for the countenance of Allah . We do not wish from you reward or thanks. (Quran)

      # Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them; and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them; but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them; and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them” (Prophet Muhammad)

      War Ethic In Islam

      # Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)

      # Do not practice treachery or mutilation. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food.” (Al-Muwatta)

      # If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam.” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

      # Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)

      # Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle.” (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)

      # Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy; pray to God to grant you security; but when you [are forced to] encounter them, exercise patience.” (Sahih Muslim)

      # No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).

      # Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

      Now compare to Bible/Torah:

      ~ Now therefore kill every boy, and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse with a man. But all the young women who have not had sexual intercourse with a man will be yours. (NUMBERS 31)

      ~ Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

      ~ Kill this man’s children! Let them die because of their father’s sins! They must not rise and conquer the earth, filling the world with their cities. (Isaiah 14:21 )

      ~ Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

      ~ This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

      ~ They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

      ~ Every one that shall be found, shall be slain: and every one that shall come to their aid, shall fall by the sword. Their children will be smashed to pieces before their very eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives raped. (Isaiah 13:16)

      ~ Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction”.(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

      ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

      ~ When you come near to a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace to it. It shall be, if it gives you a reply of peace and opens to you, then it must be that all the people that are found within shall become SLAVES to you and they shall serve you. If it will not make peace with you but makes war against you,, you are to slay every male there with the edge of the sword. But the women, and the little ones, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all the spoil within, you are to take to yourself, and you will eat the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (MEV))

      ~ I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

      • Leela Kim

        BIBLE/TORAH WAR ETHIC AND WAR VERSES (PS: If you are Christians then you accuse Jesus is also God of Torah, for there’s only one God)

        ~ Now therefore kill every boy, and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse with a man. But all the young women who have not had sexual intercourse with a man will be yours. (NUMBERS 31)

        ~ Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

        ~ Kill this man’s children! Let them die because of their father’s sins! They must not rise and conquer the earth, filling the world with their cities. (Isaiah 14:21 )

        ~ Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

        ~ This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

        ~ They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

        ~ Every one that shall be found, shall be slain: and every one that shall come to their aid, shall fall by the sword. Their children will be smashed to pieces before their very eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives raped. (Isaiah 13:16)

        ~ Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction”.(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

        ~ Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses. The spoil that remained of the plunder which the fighting men had gathered was 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys,and 32,000 young women who had never had sexual intercourse with a man. (NUMBERS 31)

        ~ When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)

        ~ When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife (Deuteronomy 21)

        ~They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man..(Judges 5:30 NAB)

        ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

        ~ When you come near to a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace to it. It shall be, if it gives you a reply of peace and opens to you, then it must be that all the people that are found within shall become SLAVES to you and they shall serve you. If it will not make peace with you but makes war against you,, you are to slay every male there with the edge of the sword. But the women, and the little ones, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all the spoil within, you are to take to yourself, and you will eat the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (MEV))

        ~ I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

        ~ So Moses ordered Israel’s judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor.. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man’s body and into the woman’s stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)

        ~ Don’t let a single one escape!” So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)

        NET)

        ~ They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT)

        ~ The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)

        ~ They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel.. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” (Numbers 31)

        ~ (Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, “All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.” And all the Levites came. He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day.

        (Exodus 32 NLT)

        ~ And the Syrians fled before Israel, and David killed of the Syrians the men of 7,000 chariots and 40,000 foot soldiers, and put to death also Shophach the commander of their army. (1 Chronicles 19:18)

        ~ The Levites obeyed Moses’ command, and about 3,000 people died that day. Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.” (Exodus 32:28-29)

        MORE VERSES …

        ~ This is what the LORD says: “‘Listen very carefully! “‘I’m raising up evil against you right out of your own household. “‘I’m going to take your wives away from you right before your eyes. “‘Then I’ll give them to your neighbor. “‘And then he’s going to have sex with your wives in broad daylight! (2 Samuel 12:11)

        ~ I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. (Zechariah 14:2)

        ~ I will reduce Jerusalem to ruins, making it a monument to their stupidity. All who pass by will be astonished and will gasp at the destruction they see there. I will see to it that your enemies lay siege to the city until all the food is gone. Then those trapped inside will eat their own sons and daughters and friends. They will be driven to utter despair. Jeremiah 19:8-9

        ~ The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. …And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.”(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

        ~ If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

        ~ I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

        ~ I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.’” (1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)

        ~ While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

        ~ This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.“ (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT) He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)

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        From Torah/Bible:

        PS: From Christian perspective it’s drafted by Jesus since they accuse Jesus is also God of Torah)

        ~ If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

        ~ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

        ~ When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

        ~ Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

        ~ If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

        ~ Suppose a man meets a young woman, a virgin who is engaged to be married, and he has sexual intercourse with her. If this happens within a town, you must take both of them to the gates of that town and stone them to death. The woman is guilty because she did not scream for help. The man must die because he violated another man’s wife. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you. ( Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

        ~ You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

        ~ If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

        ~ A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

        ~ Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

        ~ All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

        ~ If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

        ~ A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

        ~ Everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

        ~ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.. you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

        ~ If this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

        ~ Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods … then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

        ~ Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

        ~ Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

        ~ Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

        ~The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has.. (Joshua 7:15 NLT)

        PS: According Bible, Jesus say YES to TORAH

        # The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. SO PRACTICE AND OBEY WHATEVER THEY TELL YOU, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach.

        # But I warn you– UNLESS YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BETTER THAN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

        # Whoever sets aside (annuls) one of the least of these commandments (Torah) and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom from heaven. But WHOEVER DOES THEM and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom from heaven

        # You ABANDON the commandment of God and hold to human tradition. You disobey God’s commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God’s commands so that you can follow your own teachings!

        # And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness

        # If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.

        # Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.

        # But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.

        # For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.

        # Didn’t Moses command you to respect your father and mother? Didn’t he tell you to put to death all who curse their parents? But you let people get by without helping their parents .. And you ignore God’s commands in order to follow your own teaching. You do a lot of other things that are just as bad.

        # “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye–even your good eye–causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away.

        More “Jesus verses” in the Bible

        I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled

        Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence! (PS: The Parable of Ten Minas whereas Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

        Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.

        “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

        In the same way, therefore, every one of you who does not say good-bye to all his possessions cannot be My disciple.

        Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD.

        If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

        And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

        For I came to set at variance ‘A man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,

        He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

        And he [Jesus] said unto them … Ye reject the commandment of God … For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death.”

        Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

        And throw that worthless slave into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

        Jesus disciple verses:

        I do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet.

        For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off

        The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.

        The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.

        All who are forced to serve as slaves should consider their masters worthy of full respect. Then people will not speak evil things against God’s name and against what we teach.

        Some slaves have masters who are believers. They shouldn’t show their masters disrespect just because they are also believers. Instead, they should serve them even better.

        Women should learn in silence and all humility. do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet

        Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

        • Richard

          Allah the moon god of Islam promoted by Muhammad to be the head god “Allahu Akbar” – Allah is the greatest (god of all the gods) according to the Quran. The best of all the creators of Mecca the other gods.37.125 on the judgement day the other gods, idols of mecca will testify that Allah is the greatest and they didn’t tell the polytheists to worship them.

          Allah speaks for ventriloquist Muhammad. Allah is in fact Muhammad according to the Quran.

    • Leela Kim

      Islam as Free Religion

      # To You Your Religion and To Me Mine (Quran Meccan Verses)

      # Proclaim: “This is the truth from your Lord,” then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve (Quran Meccan Verses)

      # NOW [as for thee, O Muhammad,] We have not sent thee otherwise than to mankind at large, to be a herald of glad tidings and a warner; but most people do not understand

      (Quran Meccan Verses)

      # There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in God hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break.” (Qur’an Medina Verses).

      # Those WHO BELIEVE THEN DISBELIEVE, AGAIN BELIEVE AND AGAIN DISBELIEVE, then increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor guide them in the (right) way. (Quran Medina Verses)

      # But if they turn away, [O Muhammad], say, “Sufficient for me is Allah ; there is no deity except Him. On Him I have relied, and He is the Lord of the Great Throne. (Quran Medina Verses)

      Now compare to Bible/Torah:

      # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27) (PS: In the parable of Ten Minas : Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

      # If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

      # Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

      • Mahou Shoujo

        You are excessively repetitious, are you thick, absent minded or stupid?
        Here are some of the grisly passages from the Koran: “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123 “When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85 “The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them.”… Koran 9:30 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19 “The unbelievers are silly urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65 “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12 “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60

    • Leela Kim

      Islam as Universal Religion

      # O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other). Verily, the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you (Quran)

      # To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ (Quran)

      # All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action (Prophet Last Sermon)

      # And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished MONASTERIES, CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND MOSQUES in which the name of Allah is much mentioned.

      # Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Final Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.” (Quran)

      # O People of the Book! Let us rally to a common formula TO BE BINDING on both us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God. (Quran)

      # They are not all alike. Among the People of the Book there is a party who stand by their covenant; they recite the word of Allah in the hours of night and prostrate themselves before Him. (Quran)

      # Whoever is guided, surely he is guided only for himself; (i.e., for his own gain) and whoever errs (away), then surely he errs (away) only upon himself; (i.e., to his own loss) and no encumbered self will be encumbered with the encumbrance of another (self); and in no way are We tormenting (anyone) until We have sent forth a Messenger. (Quran)

      # A funeral procession once passed in front of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he stood up out of respect. When he was told the person in the coffin was Jewish and not Muslim, he said: “Was it not a living (soul)?” (Hadith)

      # A Bedouin urinated in the mosque, and the people got up to sort him out. But the Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said, ‘Leave him alone and throw a bucket of water over his urine, for you have been raised to be easy on the people, not hard on them.’” (Bukhari)

      Now compare to Bible/Torah:

      # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27) (PS: In the parable of Ten Minas : Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

      # If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

      # Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT) .

      • winmatt53

        Why are you replying to me your verses from the Kuran I’m not a Muslim!!!!

      • Richard

        Allah the moon god of Islam promoted by Muhammad to be the head god “Allahu Akbar” – Allah is the greatest (god of all the gods) according to the Quran. The best of all the creators of Mecca the other gods.37.125 on the judgement day the other gods, idols of mecca will testify that Allah is the greatest and they didn’t tell the polytheists to worship them.

        Allah speaks for ventriloquist Muhammad. Allah is in fact Muhammad if you read the Quran.

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          Allah is mohamMAD’s sock puppet.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Without being decent enough to wash it first….

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Here are some of the grisly passages from the Koran: “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123 “When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85 “The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them.”… Koran 9:30 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19 “The unbelievers are silly urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65 “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12 “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60

    • Leela Kim

      Islam as Easy Religion

      # I was sent with the easy Hanifiyah (monotheism) (Hadith)

      # Verily, this religion is easy, and its Law is all easy, lenient and perfect. It is easy for those whom Allah the Exalted makes it easy. (Hadith)

      # Religion is very easy, and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded. (Hadith)

      # Those who avoid the major sins and immoralities, only [committing] slight ones. Indeed, your Lord is vast in forgiveness. He was most knowing of you when He produced you from the earth and when you were fetuses in the wombs of your mothers. So DO NOT CLAIM YOURSELF TO BE PURE; He is most knowing of who fears Him. (Quran)

      # Seek the home of the Hereafter by that which Allah has given you, but do not forget your share of the world. (Quran)

      # Allah intends for you ease, and does not want to make things difficult for you” (Quran)

      # Allah does not want to place you in difficulty” (Quran)

      # The best of your religion, is the easiest.” (Hadith)

      # We will ease you to the Easy Way (Quran)

      # And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham.

      Now compare to Bible / Torah:

      # If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

      # In the same way, therefore, every one of you who does not say good-bye to all his possessions cannot be My disciple.

      # Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

      # If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

      # And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

      # But I warn you– UNLESS YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BETTER THAN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

    • Leela Kim

      Islam as Merciful Religion

      # Then he was among those who believed and advised one another to patience and advised one another to mercy. (Quran)

      # We have not sent you except as mercy to the worlds. (Quran)

      # Allah will not be merciful to those who are not merciful to the people. (Hadith)

      # Those who are merciful will be shown mercy by the Most Merciful. Be merciful to those on the earth and the One above the heavens will have mercy upon you. (Hadith)

      # Be merciful to others and you will receive mercy. Forgive others and Allah will forgive you. (Hadith)

      # Verily, whoever does not show mercy will not be shown mercy (Hadith)

      # Shall I not tell you who will be forbidden from the Fire? It will be forbidden for every gentle, soft-hearted and kind person. (Hadith)

      # O people, spread peace, feed the hungry, and pray at night when people are sleeping and you will enter Paradise in peace. (Hadith)

      # You will never have faith until you love each other. Shall I tell you what will make you love each other? They said, “Of course, O Messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said: Spread peace between yourselves. By the one in whose hand is my soul, you will not enter Paradise until you are merciful to others. They said, “O Messenger of Allah, all of us are merciful.” The Prophet said: Verily, it is not only mercy between yourselves, but rather it is mercy in general. (Hadith)

      # The best of people are those that bring most benefit to the rest of mankind. (Hadith)

      # I heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.) say: ‘Whoever has been denied kindness has been denied all goodness (Hadith)

      # Allah (S.W.T.) is Kind and loves kindness, and He rewards it in a way that He does not reward harshness, and in a way unlike any other. (Hadith)

      # You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. (Quran)

      # Virtue and evil are not equal. If you replace evil habits by virtuous ones, you will certainly find that your enemies will become your intimate friends. (Quran)

      # And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”(Quran)

      # Make things easy, not difficult, and be cheerful, not threatening. (Hadith)

      # Do not think little of any good deed, even if it is just meeting your brother with a cheerful countenance. (Hadith)

      # The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “The best charity is that given to a relative who does not like you. (Hadith)

      # Verily, I was not sent to invoke curses, but rather I was only sent as mercy. (Hadith)

      Now compare to Bible / Torah

      # Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD. (Matthew 10:34)

      # I have come to set fire to the earth, and I only wish it were already burning (Luke 12:49)

      # Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. (Luke 12:51)

      # Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their KING, bring them here and KILL them in my presence! (Luke 19:27) (PS: In the parable of Ten Minas : Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Qur’an:9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

        Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

        Qur’an:9:88 “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”

        Qur’an:9:14 “Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them.”

        Qur’an:9:38 “Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah’s Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place.”

        Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

        Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”

        Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.” [Another translation says:] “pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.”

        Qur’an 5:17 “…Say (Muhammad): ‘Who then has the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary, his mother, and everyone else on earth?”

        Qur’an 5:35 “Believers, fear Allah and seek the way to approach Him, striving hard, fighting Jihad with all your might in His Cause that you may be successful. As for the disbelievers [previously defined as Christians], if they had everything on earth, two times over, to give as ransom for the penalty of the Day of Doom, it would never be accepted from them. Theirs will be a painful torment. They will desire to get out of the fire, but they shall not be released from it. They shall have an everlasting torture.”

        Qur’an 5:49 “And this (He commands): Judge between them by what Allah has revealed and follow not their [Christian] desires, but beware of them lest they beguile you, seducing you away from any of that which Allah hath sent down to you. And if they turn you away [from being Muslims], be assured that for their crime it is Allah’s purpose to smite them. Truly most men are rebellious.”

        Qur’an 5:73 “They are surely disbelievers who blaspheme and say: ‘God is one of three in the Trinity for there is no Ilah (God) except One, Allah. If they desist not from saying this (blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall them – the disbelievers will suffer a painful doom.”

        Qur’an 5:77 “Say (Muhammad): ‘People of the Book, do not overstep the bounds in your religion, or follow the people who erred and led many astray. Cursed are the unbelievers among the Children of Israel by David and Jesus…. They do vile things, allying themselves with the infidels so that Allah’s indignation is upon them and in torment they will suffer for all eternity.” [Another translation reads:] “Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled.”

        Qur’an 5:80 “You see many of them allying themselves with the unbelieving infidels. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah’s wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide.”

        Qur’an 5:82 “You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims.”

        Qur’an 5:117 “I only said what You (Allah) commanded me to say: Worship Allah, my lord and your Lord. I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them but you took me up. (This is a great admonition and warning to the Christians of the whole world.)”.

  • roger

    ” The very fabric, Part of the character “.
    Mmm… yep I think Obama likes Muslims, ( just a little bit ).

  • Voytek Gagalka

    Recognizing reality is not giving any “legitimacy.” No one gave Nazis any legitimacy from outside of Germany after WWII fully unfolded and most of the world was fighting them (disregard here small number of secret collaborators and spies or closet Nazis in hiding). Nevertheless it was ESSENTIAL to recognize that they exist, what their ideology is and on what it is based. Hence with the Islamic State. No one in his right mind in the West, so far, is proposing to “recognize” them and send diplomats to Caliph! But to fight them one must recognize who the hell they are or be destined to land up on the dust pile of history.

    • Ichabod Crain

      It is especially important to examine how ISIS relates its actions to the Quran and the teachings of Islam. This needs to be examined in the clear light of day. This is the fundamental issue. Just saying they are “Un-Islamic” leaves us without a clue as to their motives. It is so astonishing the President of America would make up such blatant lies and tell them with a straight face.

  • Richard

    Obama: Islamic State says they’re “holy warriors who speak for Islam. I refuse to give them legitimacy.”

    Translation, if they were “holy warriors” “speaking for Islam”, like the Taliban in Afghanistan for example, then they would be legitimate and I would approve of all the atrocities they have committed and continue to commit on a daily basis.

    The question gets diverted from – What does Islam preach? to – Are ISIS the ones who should legitimately speaking for Islam? (Although the message they are preaching and acting is the purest teaching of Islam).

    • jn

      Hi Richard,

      ISIS is clearly againts Islam because they killed the most respected persons in Islam such as Iman, Clerics and other muslims on daily basis..

      http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=126730

      ISIS Leader ‘Al-Baghdadi’ Is A ‘Jewish Mossad Agent’ – French Report

      “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

      ISIS is enemy of Islam… ISIS Executes 13 Sunni Clerics for Refusal To Join Them

      http://www.clarionproject.org/news/isis-executes-13-sunni-clerics-refusal-join-them

      Currenly all muslims are united againts ISIS..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fubrX8agwRI

      SYRIA WAR: FSA TOW Missile Destroys ISIS Bulldozer

      Muslims and non muslims live and work together peacefully.

      There are thousands of non muslims working in oil and gas industries and they got good pay. Muslims and non muslims working together peacefully to ensure continual oil and gas supply to the whole world.

      So many non muslims live in muslims countries and they are free to practice their religion peacefully. So many has became billionaires and millionaires.

      https://www.imoney.my/articles/top-10-richest-men-in-malaysia-2015

      For example : In Malaysia (majority muslims country) there is the largest Hindu temple (Batu Caves) outside India since decades ago. gigantic golden Lord Murugan statue – the prominent attraction there. The gigantic statue is more than 42 meters high.

      http://etramping.com/worlds-most-beautiful-temples/

      Furthermore, so many US and Western companies have their business operations in so many muslim countries since decades ago. Muslims and non muslims work together peacefully as required in Islam teaching. US and Western companies have made multi billions of profit from their business activities in muslims countries peacefully.

      “Islam is a missionary religion since 1400 years ago and many Muslim organisations and particularly university students’ Islamic societies have active outreach programmes designed to remove popular misconceptions about the faith.”

      Today the fastest growing religion in Western countries in Islam. Which muslims army was sent to force Westerners to accept Islam in such large numbers?

      Look back to history, The largest Muslim country in the world today is Indonesia…and there were never any battles fought there! Islam is spread by Indonesian scholars in peaceful manner.

      In Malaysia, Islam was spread by Islamic traders hundreds of year ago in peacefully manner.

      Chinese Muslims have been in China for the last 1,400 years of continuous interaction with Chinese society in peaceful manner. “Islam expanded gradually across the maritime and inland silk routes from the 7th to the 10th centuries through trade and diplomatic exchanges.

      • Richard

        “ISIS Leader ‘Al-Baghdadi’ Is A ‘Jewish Mossad Agent’ – French Report”
        Where has this “French Report” come from? Tehran? If Shias want to discredit any Sunni they call him a “Jewish Agent”. The Sunnis do the same. Calling someone Jewish in Islam is the worst insult you can give. And Muslims, both shias and sunnis readily believe absurd and simplistic conspiracy theories.
        Islam is not the fastest growing religion in the west by conversion, only by migration and birth rates.

        • Richard

          PS It is false that Islam was spread anywhere peacefully. In Indonesia and Malaysia, non-Muslims are discriminated against and not allowed to practice their religion peacefully or preach their religion to Muslims (the same in any Muslim country), unlike Muslims in the west.. Even in Indonesia there were battles and force threat and coercion cannot be considered “peaceful”.

          • jn

            Hi Richard,

            Thanks for denying that no muslims army was sent to invade Indonesia and Malaysia.

            In fact, muslims traders and muslims missionary spread islam in Indonesia and Malaysia peacefully.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Indonesia

            Spread of Islam (1200–1600)

            Main article: Spread of Islam in Indonesia

            There is evidence of Arab Muslim traders entering Indonesia as early as the 8th century.[7] Indonesia’s historical inhabitants were animists, Hindus and Buddhists.[8] However it was not until the end of the 13th century that the spread of Islam began.[7]

            The spread, although at first introduced through Arab Muslim traders, continued to saturate through the Indonesian people as local rulers and royalty began to adopt it, subsequently their subjects would mirror their conversion. The spread of Islam continued as Muslim traders married the local women, with some of the wealthier traders marrying into the families of the ruling elite.[9]

            In general, traders and the royalty of major kingdoms were the first to adopt the new religion. By the end of the thirteenth century, Islam had been established in Northern Sumatra; by the fourteenth in northeast Malaya, Brunei, the southwestern Philippines and among some courts of coastal East and Central Java; and the fifteenth in Malacca and other areas of the Malay Peninsula. Dominant kingdoms included Samudra Pasai in northern Sumatra, Demak Sultanate and Mataram in Central Java, and the sultanates of Ternate and Tidore in the Maluku Islands to the east.

          • Richard

            If you read the details “a clear turning point (in the Islamisation of Indonesia) occurred when the Hindu empire Majapahit in Java fell to the Islamised Demak Sultanate. In 1527, the Muslim ruler renamed newly conquered Sunda Kelapa as Jayakarta (meaning “precious victory”) which was eventually contracted to Jakarta.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_of_Islam_in_Indonesia

            Wherever you look Islamisation is connected with conquest and violence. There is nothing peaceful eventually about Islam. In Malaysia the story is the same. It is a criminal offence to preach Christianity there to Muslims or to convert a Muslim. However Muslims can freely preach or try to covert in western countries.

          • jn

            Hi Richard,

            Thanks for not denying that Arab Muslim traders entering Indonesia as early as the 8th century and the spread of Islam began peacefully. Thanks also for admitting that no muslims army was sent to invade Indonesia and Malaysia…

            As for Malaysia, Islam was also spread by traders peacefully without any battle…

            Malaysia was under occupation by the brutal colonial for hundreds of years since 1511 until 1957 by Portugese, Dutch & British…

            The colonial has robbed the wealth of Malaysia for hundreds of years and damaged the social and economical..

            Before give independence, British has made the Malaysia constitution which favour to the colonial interest.

            The British also appointed the Secular Leader (Anti Islam) in Malaysia. Muslims in Malaysia still struggle in their own country.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            So tell us, why did muslims of hundreds of years ago allegedly spread islam peacefully, whereas todays muslims spread islam through violence, murder, rape and destruction? Please comment on the ethnic cleansing in the levant of Yazidis, Jews, Christians and muslim apostates, with reference to this quote from the qur’an. ““There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256)”.

      • nanza

        Seriously, “all muslims are united against ISIS??!! The why the heck are they all running away into Europe instead of fighting them??!! What a bunch of Poppycock from a takiyah lying muslim apologist. I have your stinking book that says to kill any infidels and abuse women to their hearts content. Only a sadist and wicked person would make that part of their cult of subjugation. None of us believe your bull unless they are one of the countries with the lowest IQ’s in the world. Which includes most of Africa and the Middle East. Why don’t you look that up in you endless statistics research project. Those countries are so stupid because, Islam prevents them from education and expanding their knowledge. So take your statisics and shove it where the sun don’t shine!!

  • Guest

    Now this is a shocker. Islamic Theologian says Prophet Muhammed likey never existed.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122669909279629451

    • Ichabod Crain

      Unfortunately, that article is hidden behind a paywall. However, there are many authors making that argument, including an hour long documentary by Cook.

      Though history is a fascinating study, in the end, it is only a diversion. The fact is that Muhammad is a reality for over a billion and a half people on this planet. Even worse, this despicable warlord, pedophile, murderer, slaver, misogynist is elevated as a perfect example of how to live.

  • American

    Many citizens say the same about zer0, and it is not because he is half black or half Moslem or half gay or whatever he is. It’s because he is a double-minded obfuscater of the truth and reality, even though the US constitution gives him “legitimacy”.

  • BorisBadinov

    Just how many excuses can Obammy make for these barbarians?

    It is clear where his loyalties lie.

  • Steve

    Those aren’t legitimate guns in the Mosques either. They’re just peace spewing pistols.

  • Benton Marder

    Obama fancies himself to be the Twelfth Imam, the Mahdi himself. Why not? The reptiles hailed him as a god shortly after he took office. He fancies himself to be the smartest man in the room, more capable of anything his underlings were hired to do. The man is totally delusional. He reminds me of the old joke about the visitor to the insane asylum who came to one patient and asked who he was. The lunatic replied, ‘I am Napoleon Bonaparte’. When asked who told him that, he replied, ‘God told me’. The man in the next bed spoke up, saying, ‘I did not’. This man was Obam

  • Leela Kim

    Combat stupidity. Spread the love, peace, and just

    # And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”(Quran)

    # Virtue and evil are not equal. If you replace evil habits by virtuous ones, you will certainly find that your enemies will become your intimate friends. (Quran)

    # Be merciful to those on the earth and the One above the heavens will have mercy upon you. (Hadith)

    # Shall I not tell you who will be forbidden from the Fire? It will be forbidden for every gentle, soft-hearted and kind person. (Hadith)

    # The best of people are those that bring most benefit to the rest of mankind. (Hadith)

    # I heard the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.s.) say: ‘Whoever has been denied kindness has been denied all goodness (Hadith)

    # Allah (S.W.T.) is Kind and loves kindness, and He rewards it in a way that He does not reward harshness, and in a way unlike any other. (Hadith)

    # You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. (Quran)

    # Make things easy, not difficult, and be cheerful, not threatening. (Hadith)

    # Do not think little of any good deed, even if it is just meeting your brother with a cheerful countenance. (Hadith)

    # O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other). Verily, the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you

    # To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.

    # All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action (Prophet Last Sermon)

    # And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds (Quran)

    # There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. (Quran)

    # Proclaim: “This is the truth from your Lord,” then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve (Quran)

    # But if they turn away, Say: “Allah sufficeth me: there is no god but He: On Him is my trust,- He the Lord of the Throne (of Glory) Supreme (Quran)

    # I was sent with the easy Hanifiyah (monotheism) (Hadith)

    # Verily, this religion is easy, and its Law is all easy, lenient and perfect. It is easy for those whom Allah the Exalted makes it easy. (Hadith)

    # Religion is very easy, and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded. (Hadith)

    # Allah may recompense those who do evil with [the penalty of] what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best . Those who avoid the major sins and immoralities, only [committing] slight ones. Indeed, your Lord is vast in forgiveness.. So do not claim yourselves to be pure (Quran)

    # Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Final Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.” (Quran)

    # O People of the Book! Let us rally to a common formula TO BE BINDING on both us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God. (Quran)

    # They are not all alike. Among the People of the Book there is a party who stand by their covenant; they recite the word of Allah in the hours of night and prostrate themselves before Him. (Quran)

    # You shall not kill any person – for GOD has made life sacred (Quran)

    # A funeral procession once passed in front of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he stood up out of respect. When he was told the person in the coffin was Jewish and not Muslim, he said: “Was it not a living (soul)?” (Hadith)

    # A Bedouin urinated in the mosque, and the people got up to sort him out. But the Prophet (s.a.w.s.) said, ‘Leave him alone and throw a bucket of water over his urine, for you have been raised to be easy on the people, not hard on them.’” (Bukhari)

    # The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “He will not enter Paradise whose neighbour is not secure from his wrongful conduct.” (Hadith)

    # The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “The best charity is that given to a relative who does not like you. (Hadith)

    # Do not turn away a poor man..even if all you can give is half a date. If you love the poor and bring them near you…GOD will bring you near HIM on the Day of Resurrection. (Hadith)

    # O Messenger of Allah, tell me the best of deeds,” he told him, “O ‘Uqbah, maintain ties with the one who cuts you off, give to the one who deprives you, and do not seek revenge on the one who wrongs you.” In another report he said: “Forgive the one who wrongs you. (Hadith)

    # Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them; and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them; but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them; and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them” (Prophet Muhammad)

    ISLAM always endorses PEACE. Quran is a peaceful and tolerant one. The only situations where fighting is allowed is in self-defense. Aggression is always prohibited.

    # Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice (Quran)

    # Fight in the way of Allah those WHO FIGHT YOU but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

    # If they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them (Quran)

    # But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things. (Quran)

    # Do not say to one who offers you peace, “You are not a believer,” seeking the spoils of this world. For GOD possesses infinite spoils. Remember that you used to be like them, and GOD blessed you. (Quran)

    # The Prophet, may Allah bless him, said, “Whoever killed a Mu’ahid (a non-Muslim who is under the pledge of protection by the Muslims) shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise though its fragrance can be smelt at a distance of forty years (of traveling).” (Hadith )

    # If anyone wrongs a man with whom a covenant has been made, or curtails any right of his, or imposes on him more than he can bear, or takes anything from him without his ready agreement, I shall be his adversary on the day of resurrection.” (Hadith)

    • Leela Kim

      And you decide

      Jesus verses:

      I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled

      Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence! (PS: The Parable of Ten Minas whereas Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

      Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.

      “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

      In the same way, therefore, every one of you who does not say good-bye to all his possessions cannot be My disciple.

      Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD.

      If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

      And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

      For I came to set at variance ‘A man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,

      He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

      And he [Jesus] said unto them … Ye reject the commandment of God … For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death.”

      Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

      And throw that worthless slave into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

      ~~~~~~~~~

      Non Jesus verses:

      I do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet.

      For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off

      The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.

      The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.

      All who are forced to serve as slaves should consider their masters worthy of full respect. Then people will not speak evil things against God’s name and against what we teach.

      Some slaves have masters who are believers. They shouldn’t show their masters disrespect just because they are also believers. Instead, they should serve them even better.

      Women should learn in silence and all humility. do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet

      Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

      • Leela Kim

        Christians believe

        * Jesus = God

        * God = Jesus

        Therefore Christians believe, Jesus killed billions of people. e.g:

        * God aka Jesus ( killed all of people, animals, plants, and other living being on planet earth via the great flood (Genesis 7:23)

        * God aka Jesus instructed Prophet Moses to take avenge on Midianites. After burning cities, slaying all males of Midianites, the army brought women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods to Moses. However Moses instructed to kill every male (children and babies too), and woman from the captives. Virgins were kept alive (Numbers 31 – 1-18)

        * God aka Jesus instructed Saul to kill children, babies, young, old, gilrs, women, and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:3). However God = Jesus felt upset because Saul didn’t destroy Amaleks since he kept the fat calves and lambs of the Amaleks (1 Samuel 15:11)

        * God aka Jesus instructs to kill brother, son, daughter,wife, or friend who worship another god (Deuteronomy 13:6)

        * God aka Jesus instructs to burn and kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

        * God aka Jesus instructs to kill every man in the town and keep all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

        * God aka Jesus assisted in capturing all cities and utterly destroy the men, women and children of every city – with no survivors (Deuteronomy 2:34)

        * God aka Jesus commanded to kill women & children “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity!Kill them all — old and young, girls and women and little children” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

        * God aka Jesus punished the Jews with cannibalism (e.g mother eating children) Jeremiah 19:9, Lamentations 4:10, 2 Kings 6:26-29, Deuteronomy 28:53-57

        * God aka Jesus approves selling daughters as sex slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)

        * God aka Jesus instructs to kill rape victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

        * God aka Jesus instructed Moses to ‘Take all the heads of the people and hang them up against the sun (Numbers 25:3-4)

        * God aka Jesus instructed Moses to take the blasphemer outside the camp then let the entire community stone him to death (Leviticus 24:10-16)

        * God aka Jesus instructed Moses to kill anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

        * God aka Jesus instructed Moses to go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, kill even your brothers, friends, and neighbors (Exodus 32:26-29)

        * God aka Jesus commanded Moses to seize all the ringleaders and execute them in broad daylight (Numbers 25:1-9)

        * God aka Jesus commanded to pursue, kill, and completely destroy the land of rebels (Jeremiah 50:21-22)

        * God aka Jesus says rape victims should marry their rapists, and the rapist pay 50 shekels (Deuteronomy 22:28-29

        * God aka Jesus instructs to kill non-virgin Women On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

        * God aka Jesus instructs to burn nasty daughter priest (Leviticus 21:9)

        * God aka Jesus instructs to kill People for Working on the Sabbath should be killed (Exodus 31:12-15)

        * God aka Jesus will make the people of Samaria fall by sword and their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)

        * God aka Jesus will bring evil upon people and will send the sword after them, till Jesus/God have consumed them (Jeremiah 49:37)

        * God aka Jesus chose Solomon whose 700 wives 300 concubines to be a king of Israel

        * God aka Jesus’s okay with striking female or male slave with a rod as long as the slave survives a day or two (Exodus 21:20-21)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who Attack or curse a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who are disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who are failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who do witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who have Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who commit blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who do false prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who do perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill those who refuse to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)

        * God aka Jesus orders to kill women pledged to be married and men other than her betrothed who had sex (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

        The logic of Christians who think Jesus is God

        • Leela Kim

          Btw Jesus say Yes to Torah AKA Old Testament

          ~ But I warn you–unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

          ~ “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye–even your good eye–causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away.

          ~ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness

          ~ If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.

          ~ Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.

          ~ You abandon the commandment of God and hold to human tradition.

          ~ You disobey God’s commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God’s commands so that you can follow your own teachings!

          ~ Didn’t Moses command you to respect your father and mother? Didn’t he tell you to put to death all who curse their parents? But you let people get by without helping their parents .. And you ignore God’s commands in order to follow your own teaching. You do a lot of other things that are just as bad.

          ~ The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

          ~ For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.

          ~ So whoever sets aside one of the least of these commandments (Torah) and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom from heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom from heaven .

          • Ichabod Crain

            This isn’t about Christianity, no matter how you frame it. There are no Christians going around with suicide belts yelling “Jesus is Greater” (than your god) just before they blow themselves up. There are no Christians killing people for blasphemy or apostasy. There are no Christians mutilating the genitals of young girls. There are no Christians killing their daughters to uphold their honour. The list goes on… By the way, all the above applied to Jews and Hindus and Zoroastrians, etc. None of these religions do these things either.

          • Leela Kim

            BIBLE/TORAH WAR ETHIC AND WAR VERSES (PS: If you are Christians then you accuse Jesus is also God of Torah, for there’s only one God)

            ~ Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

            ~ Kill this man’s children! Let them die because of their father’s sins! They must not rise and conquer the earth, filling the world with their cities. (Isaiah 14:21 )

            ~ Now therefore kill every boy, and kill every woman who has had sexual intercourse with a man. But all the young women who have not had sexual intercourse with a man will be yours. (NUMBERS 31)

            ~ Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

            ~ This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

            ~ They (The Israelites) completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

            ~ Every one that shall be found, shall be slain: and every one that shall come to their aid, shall fall by the sword. Their children will be smashed to pieces before their very eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives raped. Isaiah 13:16

            ~ Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses. The spoil that remained of the plunder which the fighting men had gathered was 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys,and 32,000 young women who had never had sexual intercourse with a man. (NUMBERS 31)

            ~ When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)

            ~ When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife (Deuteronomy 21)

            ~They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man..(Judges 5:30 NAB)

            ~ You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

            ~ When you come near to a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace to it. It shall be, if it gives you a reply of peace and opens to you, then it must be that all the people that are found within shall become SLAVES to you and they shall serve you. If it will not make peace with you but makes war against you,, you are to slay every male there with the edge of the sword. But the women, and the little ones, and the livestock, and all that is in the city, all the spoil within, you are to take to yourself, and you will eat the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (MEV))

            ~ I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth.” (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

            ~ So Moses ordered Israel’s judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor.. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man’s body and into the woman’s stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)

            ~ Don’t let a single one escape!” So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)

            ~ Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction”.(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

            ~ They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT)

            ~ The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)

            ~ They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel.. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” (Numbers 31)

            ~ (Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, “All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.” And all the Levites came. He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day.

            (Exodus 32 NLT)

            ~ And the Syrians fled before Israel, and David killed of the Syrians the men of 7,000 chariots and 40,000 foot soldiers, and put to death also Shophach the commander of their army. (1 Chronicles 19:18)

            ~ The Levites obeyed Moses’ command, and about 3,000 people died that day. Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.” (Exodus 32:28-29)

            MORE VERSES …

            ~ This is what the LORD says: “‘Listen very carefully! “‘I’m raising up evil against you right out of your own household. “‘I’m going to take your wives away from you right before your eyes. “‘Then I’ll give them to your neighbor. “‘And then he’s going to have sex with your wives in broad daylight! (2 Samuel 12:11)

            ~ I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. (Zechariah 14:2)

            ~ I will reduce Jerusalem to ruins, making it a monument to their stupidity. All who pass by will be astonished and will gasp at the destruction they see there. I will see to it that your enemies lay siege to the city until all the food is gone. Then those trapped inside will eat their own sons and daughters and friends. They will be driven to utter despair. Jeremiah 19:8-9

            ~ The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. …And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.”(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

            ~ If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

            ~ I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

            ~ I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.’” (1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)

            ~ While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

            ~ This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.“ (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT) He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)

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            Law of Moses (Drafted by God or Jesus if he were God)

            ~ If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

            ~ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

            ~ When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

            ~ Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

            ~ If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

            ~ Suppose a man meets a young woman, a virgin who is engaged to be married, and he has sexual intercourse with her. If this happens within a town, you must take both of them to the gates of that town and stone them to death. The woman is guilty because she did not scream for help. The man must die because he violated another man’s wife. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you. ( Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

            ~ You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

            ~ If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

            ~ A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

            ~ Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

            ~ All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

            ~ If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

            ~ A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

            ~ Everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

            ~ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.. you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

            ~ If this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

            ~ Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods … then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

            ~ Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

            ~ Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

            ~ Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

            ~The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has.. (Joshua 7:15 NLT)

            PS: Jesus say YES to TORAH

            ~ But I warn you–unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

            ~ For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.

            ~ So whoever sets aside one of the least of these commandments (Torah) and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom from heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom from heaven .

            ~ “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye–even your good eye–causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away.

            ~ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness

            ~ If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.

            ~ Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.

            ~ You abandon the commandment of God and hold to human tradition.

            ~ You disobey God’s commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God’s commands so that you can follow your own teachings!

            ~ Didn’t Moses command you to respect your father and mother? Didn’t he tell you to put to death all who curse their parents? But you let people get by without helping their parents .. And you ignore God’s commands in order to follow your own teaching. You do a lot of other things that are just as bad.

            ~ The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

            ~ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.

            More “Jesus verses” in the Bible

            I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled

            Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence! (PS: The Parable of Ten Minas whereas Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

            Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.

            “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

            In the same way, therefore, every one of you who does not say good-bye to all his possessions cannot be My disciple.

            Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD.

            If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

            And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

            For I came to set at variance ‘A man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,

            He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

            And he [Jesus] said unto them … Ye reject the commandment of God … For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death.”

            Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

            And throw that worthless slave into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

            Jesus disciple verses:

            I do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet.

            For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off

            The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.

            The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.

            All who are forced to serve as slaves should consider their masters worthy of full respect. Then people will not speak evil things against God’s name and against what we teach.

            Some slaves have masters who are believers. They shouldn’t show their masters disrespect just because they are also believers. Instead, they should serve them even better.

            Women should learn in silence and all humility. do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet

            Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Too bad they missed a few, which eventually became muslims.

          • Richard

            Allah the moon god of Islam promoted by Muhammad to be the head god “Allahu Akbar” – Allah is the greatest (god of all the gods) according to the Quran. The best of all the creators of Mecca the other gods.37.125 on the judgement day the other gods, idols of mecca will testify that Allah is the greatest and they didn’t tell the polytheists to worship them.
            Allah speaks for ventriloquist Muhammad. Allah is in fact Muhammad.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Please refer to islam’s treatment of Jews, other muslims, Yazidis, Christians and other ethnically cleansed minorities that they murdered because of who they are. Islam is a life of lies. Your constant slobbering of quotes from the assorted books of various scriptures is useless unless it can be applied to todays conditions.

          • Leela Kim

            ~ If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

            ~ I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

            ~ I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.’” (1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)

            ~ While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

            ~ This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.“ (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT) He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them. (2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT)

            ============

            Law of Moses (Drafted by God or Jesus if he were God)

            ~ If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” .. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death ..(Deuteronomy 13 :7)

            ~ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

            ~ When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

            ~ Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

            ~ If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)

            ~ Suppose a man meets a young woman, a virgin who is engaged to be married, and he has sexual intercourse with her. If this happens within a town, you must take both of them to the gates of that town and stone them to death. The woman is guilty because she did not scream for help. The man must die because he violated another man’s wife. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you. ( Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

            ~ You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

            ~ If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

            ~ A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

            ~ Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

            ~ All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

            ~ If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

            ~ A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

            ~ Everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

            ~ Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.. you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

            ~ If this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

            ~ Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods … then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

            ~ Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

            ~ Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

            ~ Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

            ~The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has.. (Joshua 7:15 NLT)

            PS: Jesus say YES to TORAH

            ~ But I warn you–unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!

            ~ For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.

            ~ So whoever sets aside one of the least of these commandments (Torah) and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom from heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom from heaven .

            ~ “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your eye–even your good eye–causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away.

            ~ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness

            ~ If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.

            ~ Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.

            ~ You abandon the commandment of God and hold to human tradition.

            ~ You disobey God’s commands in order to obey what humans have taught. You are good at rejecting God’s commands so that you can follow your own teachings!

            ~ Didn’t Moses command you to respect your father and mother? Didn’t he tell you to put to death all who curse their parents? But you let people get by without helping their parents .. And you ignore God’s commands in order to follow your own teaching. You do a lot of other things that are just as bad.

            ~ The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

            ~ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.

            More “Jesus verses” in the Bible

            I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled

            Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence! (PS: The Parable of Ten Minas whereas Jesus is the King, and those who should be killed are the Jews)

            Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.

            “If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple.

            In the same way, therefore, every one of you who does not say good-bye to all his possessions cannot be My disciple.

            Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD.

            If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

            And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

            For I came to set at variance ‘A man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,

            He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

            And he [Jesus] said unto them … Ye reject the commandment of God … For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death.”

            Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

            And throw that worthless slave into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Still stupid after all those quotes and knowledgeable feedback. You demonstrate that muslim women are stupid, and have to be told everything by males, in your case the male who is handling you is more of an idiot than you are.

          • Leela Kim

            You have no single refutation about KILLING BABIES verses in the Bible? Your stupid non verses non academic response is not counted. There are tons of logical explanation when someone stupid misquote Quran. It’s just waaaaay to easy to response. But when someone quote KILLING BABIES verses in the bible. Even Christians are shy to refute. Cause it’s just too gruesome. Killing babies. What the heck??? Babies slaughtering?? What the heck???

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Pleas stop repeating yourself, so often, you sound more like you are trying to convince yourself of islam’s lies than anything else.

          • Leela Kim

            Anyone must work so hard to beat the record of Hitler religious work that caused the 12.000.000 people killed.

            “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator”

            “Whoever destroys His work wages war against God’s Creation and God’s Will”

            “For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant.”

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Ah yes the peaceful religion of the profit, police beat upon him, and its very peaceful shiite and sunni tribes.

          • Leela Kim

            You have no single refutation about KILLING BABIES verses in the Bible? Your stupid non verses non academic response is not counted. There are tons of logical explanation when someone stupid misquote Quran. It’s just waaaaay to easy to response. But when someone quote KILLING BABIES verses in the bible. Even Christians are shy to refute. Cause it’s just too gruesome. Killing babies. What the heck??? Babies slaughtering?? What the heck??

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You will notice in the following quote there is no age or gender restriction on muslims killing everyone, including each other.

            • Hadith 9:4 “Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.”

            • Hadith 9:50, 57 “No Umma (a member of Muslim community) should be killed for killing a Kafir (an infidel). . Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.”

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            The “killing babies” verse is in the Psalms. It is a descriptive verse not a prescriptive verse. It is DESCRIBING an event, not advocating a course of action lying sharmuta worm.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Meanwhile back in the present rality of islam as practiced by its peious followers…

            Islamic State’s human organ harvesting is sanctioned by a fatwa issued last January, when the group’s Islamic scholars explained that internals of ‘apostates’ could be extracted from their bodies for the needs of Muslims, even if the ‘donors’ die.

            A document obtained by Reuters reveals that organs harvesting is charitable deed by codes of Islamic State (IS, former ISIS/ISIL), maintains IS’ Research and Fatwa Committee.

            “The apostate’s life and organs don’t have to be respected and may be taken with impunity,” says Fatwa (religious ruling) #68 issued January 31, 2015. “The notion that transplanting healthy organs into a Muslim person’s body in order to save the latter’s life or replace a damaged organ with it is permissible,” the document says, specifying that removal of organs that “end the captive’s life” is also not prohibited.

            © thomsonreuters

            © thomsonreuters

            The Fatwa #68 was reportedly found in a trove of other Islamic State’s documents obtained by the US special forces as a result of raid into eastern Syria in May. Reuters could not independently confirm the authenticity of the document.

            The data retrieved in May has been compiled into ‘Lessons Learned From the Abu Sayyaf Raid’ package exposing IS of justifying practices punishable elsewhere in the world, the human organs trafficking being just one of them.

            © thomsonreuters

            © thomsonreuters

            The raid in May that resulted in killing Abu Sayyaf, IS’s top financial official, brought the US seven terabytes of data from terrorist’s computer hard drives, thumb drives, CDs, DVDs and papers, Reuters cited Brett McGurk, the US president’s special envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL.

            In February this year, Iraq’s ambassador to the United Nations, Mohamed Alhakim, called on the 15-member UN Security Council to look at allegations of organ removal by the IS, urging the UNSC to investigate the issue.

            He informed that bodies with surgical incisions and missing kidneys had been discovered in shallow mass graves on Iraqi territory.

            “We have bodies. Come and examine them,” Alhakim said. “It is clear they are missing certain parts.”

            He also said several doctors had been executed in Mosul for refusing to participate in organ harvesting.

            READ MORE: ISIS ‘organ harvesting’ must be probed by Security Council – Iraqi envoy

            In August the Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) reported of French-speaking IS militants openly discussing harvesting human organs from sex slaves on social media back in September 2014.

            READ MORE: ‘Spare parts’: ISIS fighters discuss prices of human organs on social media

            The fatwa obtained by Reuters does not define who could be attributed as ‘Kafir’ (disbeliever in Islam), but enslaving of minorities practicing other religions on the territories controlled by IS is a well-established fact. Thousands of Iraqi women have already been forced into sex slavery, with as many as 3,000 women and girls having been taken captive only from the Yazidi tribe in Iraq during IS offensives across the region.

            READ MORE: ISIS releases horrifying sex slave pamphlet, justifies child rape

            IS has issued a number of fatwas, providing legal justification to a range of criminal and openly barbaric practices.

            For example Fatwa #64 issued on January 29, 2015, presents regulations for rape, explaining in detail when and how Islamic State militants should have sexual intercourse with female slaves.

            IS even has a fatwa justifying cannibalism in extreme circumstances.

            “A group of Islamic scholars have permitted, if necessary, one to kill the apostate in order to eat his flesh, which is part of benefiting from his body,” the regulation says.

          • IzlamIsTyranny

            Dear islam0tard:

            ‘Hitler himself knew better. “One is either a Christian or a German,” he said. “You can’t be both.”‘
            http://www.adherents.com/people/ph/Adolf_Hitler.html

            Furthermore:
            “The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad.” (Hitler, quoted by Ahmed Huber; Kevin Coogan, “The mysterious Achmed Huber: Friend to Hitler

            You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have
            to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness? – Inside the Third Reich: Memoirs, pg. 115

            Suck muhammad’s choda sharmuta…

          • Mahou Shoujo

            1 + 1 = eleventy eighteen, according to islam.

        • Mahou Shoujo

          You and your demented subhuman islamic logic are a standing joke to anyone who actually takes the time to read your absurd statements.

          • Leela Kim

            i bring actual verses you bring your personal stupidity. Academically speaking you’re a retard.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Do come up with something new, you are, in addition to being clueless, repetitive, wrong and uncreative.

          • Leela Kim

            Do come up with something new, you are, in addition to being clueless, repetitive, wrong and uncreative. Lol are you describing your self you brainwashed lil creep? You can’t bring verses and you have no single words about the violent verses in the name of bible. Kill babies. What the heck??? Kill infants what the heck?? What are you going to say about this you little creep? You are pathetic yet disgustingly loud mouth.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            You piss’ed sister? You really should have a nice cup of warm camel urine and a cucumber sandwich. Take a few deep breaths and try to calm down, you are acting like a hysterical dervish.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Have a wonderful day! May beauty surround and flow through you!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Thanks, right now cat fur is surrounding and flowing all over me. Got to brush pussy… again.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Ah can’t get me out of your mind.. I’ll help with the next trim and wash of course….

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Ah..can’t get me out of your mind…I’ll be glad to help with the next wash and trim…

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Don’t read too much into that, I can’t get the cat fur out of everything. If you want to be severely lacerated and otherwise inconvenienced, try give a large cat a bath.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            You are the only cat I was referring to.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That picture is of a nice kitty, the one here is vicious.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Kitty has always been berry gut tu me..sounds delicious

          • Mahou Shoujo

            This one is nice, until it decides to be not nice, then it is vicious. It has teeth and claws.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Wow 😲..oh ya not my first rodeo….no passion without emotion! My first priority is always be aware of kitties spatial priorities and demands without being the butler

          • Mahou Shoujo

            What is required in this case is a spatula and a plastic bag, bad kitty.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I purchased Dan Aykroyd’s spatula from the movie Stripes…it comes with directions..it’s for big bad kitties ..looked up the definition online…Mahou was everywhere!!!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Suppose I best get a slightly better grade of cat food, maybe I can slough this off on the kids?

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Retry….nonsequitors alert!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            If I disguise it as tofu, maybe I can get the kids to eat it.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            A nonsequitor? Appears to be too expansive to fit into the tofu mold

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Tofu is vegetable blubber, it does not expand.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I’m afraid to ask…what are you making look like tofu?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            As I was once married to a german, an old german recipe using Japanese ingredients, schnitzelwienerfu, with bok choy and brussels sprouts.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            A tofu weinerschnitzer?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            It’s an acquired taste.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Married 💑 with children?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Divorced with receipts… and children and fuzzy nutless.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Divorced with a great 19yr old son and a part beagle fence dog

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Ahhh..make the cat food look like tofu..um holding their noses during feeding time….but who will hold yours?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            On occasion I even like the stuff. Tofu, not cat food.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            I like you

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Other than being old, nasty, shrivelled, avaricious, crabby, short tempered, vicious, foul mouthed, vindictive scheming, and several other traits, what’s not to like? Then there are my bad points.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Still like you..smelly might have tipped the scales a little though

          • Mahou Shoujo

            No olfactory abilities, can barely tell toilet water from perfume.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Toilet water is cheap perfume silly grl

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Well of course, the toilet fills up after every flush, costs next to nothing.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            It is also the name for a lighter perfume

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Here I though “Ronsinol” was the name of lighter “perfume”. Suppose I should get out more. Nah, too many expectations and insufficient delivery.

          • BrunoPBuhr
          • Mahou Shoujo

            O for the good old days when I bought soap for the scent, instead of the grit size.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Doh!

          • BrunoPBuhr
          • Mahou Shoujo

            We all start out that way, then, eventually, return to it, with the added advantage of self propulsion.

          • BrunoPBuhr
          • Mahou Shoujo

            Nice boobs.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Recovering from a car accident…not my fault…gained 25 lbs…that’s just my German ( Sioux)nose!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Think of all the fun you can have dieting back to where you were.

          • BrunoPBuhr
          • Mahou Shoujo

            Thats nice, but the only picture I will put on the internet is the one in my avatar.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Not asking..just giving you the opportunity to see me..ridden hard put away wet, busted up a bit not broken. I’m not exactly movie star material…truth in advertising. Gives you the opportunity to cover your eyes and run 🏃 away

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Having worked with far too many”macho men” in northern Canada’s oil industry, I have seen far more of everything than is really required. What I like to see, is trees, which is why I live in a boreal forest.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Sounds beautiful! I did martial arts for balance awareness and self defense…at the same time I wrote a book of poetry and had my photography in an art gallery

          • Mahou Shoujo

            That is always good mental exercise. One should keep the brain exercised, or it turns into a lump of qur’an.

          • BrunoPBuhr

            Violence in the bible were one time events not eternal commands of violence. Complete destruction of a population ended any claims to land by groups serving a false god like leela. It was limited to territories promised to the Israelites, not world wide. It states in the bible that anyone who “changes” the bible or falsely prophesizes will get all their lying posts stuffed back inside their horse kak stretched …..

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Islam is hate, violence, lies and every other morally reprehensible form of depravity possible by the human species. One can expect very little from a cult that has to kill its members to maintain fear in the survivors. Islam is an evil that has to be dealt with, in terms and conditions that will neutralize it, permanently.

          • Leela Kim

            Do you worship Jesus as a god, stupid? How many God you worship you stupid?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Work on your use of the word “stupid” you are using it stupidly in your rather stupid comments.

          • Leela Kim

            Prove that worshiping Jesus as god is not stupid, stupid.

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Prove that muhammad was not a devil worshipper who was the ignorant tool of a demon, as muslims, who consider him the perfect “man” practicing violence, rape, murder, theft, beastiality, necrophilia among other things that every other religion mono or poly theist specifically define as sins.

          • Leela Kim

            Who are this God of Old Testament, stupid?

          • Mahou Shoujo

            No, “stupid” is the demon of islam, has nothing to do with the Old Testament.

      • Ichabod Crain

        It has been so well rebutted so many times before that they even have a name for it. The well discredited “False equivalence” argument. It gets tedious…

      • Mahou Shoujo

        In islam women are worth very little, have to be told what to say and when to say it, are incapable of thought, in essence a muslim woman is a life support system for a vagina. Nothing else, as you frequently demonstrate.

    • Ichabod Crain

      If only Muhammad had stayed in Mecca and never went to Medina to start his career as a warlod!

      • Steve

        Yes, I’d still be planning to go see the Pyramids.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      Taqiyya

      • Leela Kim

        i bring actual verses you bring your personal stupidity. Academically speaking you’re a retard

        • Mahou Shoujo

          More taqiyya getting weaker, have to intensify the insults there elevated ass on the mat girl.

        • IzlamIsTyranny

          Dear islam0tard, it really doesn’t matter who wins the battle of the verses. You’re entire defense of islam [spit] is here based on the fallacy of argumentation called Tu Quoque. Whatever the Jews, Christians, space aliens or Wiccans did or do doesn’t justify islamic barbarity in the past, present or future.

  • Leela Kim

    Things never been informed in Pamela hateful website

    Former Military Chief: Iraq War Was A ‘Failure’ That Helped Create ISIS

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iraq-war-isis-michael-flynn_us_565c83a9e4b079b2818af89c

    ‘I helped create ISIS’: Iraq War veteran says US policy caused ‘blowback’ in Middle East

    https://www.rt.com/usa/327404-usa-helped-create-isis-marine/

    Tony Blair is right: without the Iraq war there would be no ISIS

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/25/tony-blair-is-right-without-the-iraq-war-there-would-be-no-isis

    And now Muslim countries must pay the price the illegal war US & UK had conducted.

    World’s Largest Islamic Organization Tells ISIS To Get Lost

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/indonesian-muslims-counter-isis_us_565c737ae4b072e9d1c26bda

    Saudi clerics declare Isis terrorism a ‘heinous crime’ under sharia law

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/17/saudi-clerics-fatwa-declares-terrorism-heinous-crime-sharia-law

    Saudi Arabia announces 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-idUSKBN0TX2PG20151215

    Thousands of Muslim clerics issue fatwa against evil Islamic State and other terror groups

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/625619/Muslim-Fatwa-ISIS-Islamic-State-al-Qaeda-Taliban-Islam-Paris-Attacks-Daesh

    Muslims Fight Back: 70,000 Muslim Clerics Issue Fatwa Against ISIS And Other Terrorist Organizations

    http://anonhq.com/muslims-fight-back-70000-muslim-clerics-issue-fatwa-against-isis-and-other-terrorist-organizations/

    Over 1000 Indian Islamic Scholars Issue World’s Biggest Fatwa Against ISIS

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Over-1000-Indian-Islamic-Scholars-Issue-World%E2%80%99s-Biggest-Fatwa-Against-ISIS/2015/09/09/article3018529.ece

    ‘ISIS is enemy No. 1 of Islam,’ says Saudi grand mufti

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/08/19/Saudi-mufti-ISIS-is-enemy-No-1-of-Islam-.html

    Indonesian Muslims Denounce ISIS Ideology

    http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/news/indonesian-muslims-denounce-isis-ideology/

    • Ichabod Crain

      If you want the opinion of a Sunni Muslim…

      By The Numbers – The Untold Story of Muslim Opinions & Demographics
      Clarion Project – Challenging Extremism | Promoting Dialogue
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk

      • Steve

        Great information!

    • Mahou Shoujo

      The dog vomits… again.

  • Drew the Infidel

    Just once, it would be a shocker to hear Obhammud say one critical remark concerning the jihadists. Calling Ft. Hood “workplace violence” and remaining non-committal on other such incidents unwittingly provides the approval they seek.

  • Janet

    He never ceases to amaze me! Why is he in such denial! Does he think they are going to see the light or something! Everything they do is in the Koran! They ARE Islamic 100%! He infuriates me! I couldn’t even listen to him because he gets me so angry! He thinks because he quotes one verse from the Koran that people will think it’s a peaceful religion! But if he kept on reading the next verse it is anything but peaceful! There is nothing holy about the Koran!!! And as far as Muslims and hate crimes go there is way more against the Jewish people! So go sell that bull crap somewhere else because nobody is buying it!

    • Infidel Knight

      Obama is the greatest fraud not just in American history, but world history. Ya know the $50 million spent to hide those college records and other things. The money was spent to either destroy the records or conceal the fact that there were no records to begin with.

  • Fanfaron2011

    The big O never stopped being a MUSLIM… he only ‘switched’ to Christianity to get votes! Everything he does is calculated… his roots still remain in ISLAM!

    • Infidel Knight

      True, he’s as much a Muslim today as 40 years ago.

    • Steve

      I believe that odumber, the clintons and many others are a part of a larger global scheme of progressives or at least enablers who are using the islamists and immigration to work against nationalism to achieve their ends but the game is by all appearances backfiring as islamists and even many immigrants will not assimilate and islamists eventually will want to take over completely driven by their sharia and jihad.

      • Fanfaron2011

        I heard the other day that only 17% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim. Can you believe that? NO WONDER WE’RE IN TROUBLE… 83% of the population has been ‘dumbed down’ (or mesmerized by the clown in the White House)? Apparently, they have NOT bothered to do BASIC research. YIKES! I hate to say it, but America just might deserve the dire situation we’re in or the sad future that is about to descend on us.

        • Steve

          Do not believe all the numbers. One game used by the media is cherry picked articles showing their stats but even then most are skewed and/ or sloppy polls or research with unmeasurable or uncomtrolled tests or poor samples.

  • THE MURDERING TERRORIST MULLAHS OF ISLAMONAZI IRAN

    also say like ISIS that they are “holy warriors who speak for Islam* ” And Obama has not only given them legitimacy with his worthless and dangerous Munich-like nuke deal, but he has lovingly lavished on them 150 billion butt kisses to show his friendship and good will. And what does he have to show for it? Mullah sh*t all over his clueless face.

    *The Ayatollah Khomeini once said: “People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors!”

    http://www.apollospeaks.com

  • Mixa.

    Obama is a fucking moron… Over 150 people dead in Paris because his stupid administration decided to train these assholes.

    https://youtu.be/RRR5W6zv8S4

    • Ichabod Crain

      There is something wrong with the link. It gets translated once you paste it into a comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRR5W6zv8S4

    • Infidel Knight

      Not a moron, an Islamic terrorist; big difference.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      He’s not a moron, he’s evil.

  • Mike Knox

    Please explain how a person who is born a Muslim and proclaims that he/she is a Christian does not have a Fatwa on them for apostasy? Or would that person just be PRETENDING to be a Christian? Just asking….

    • Infidel Knight

      Correct, it’s not possible unless he was given permission to commit Taqiyya as part of a plan to advance Allah’s cause. Add this in, since “becoming” a Christian, all Obama does is defend Islam and bash Christians and Jews. He never left Islam, it was all a political stunt to open the door to the White House.

      • IzlamIsTyranny

        Exactly, mohamMAD himself allowed a follower of his to lie about being muslum in order to get close enough to knock off one of his critics.

        • Infidel Knight

          Hey, it’s all recorded history. It’s up to us to learn the history, as you have done.

  • joker

    If the president of the United States is not a muzzrat why is he so concerned with the PR of the muzzrats? Either he is a muzzrat or a traitor. Either way he will hang!

  • winmatt53

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery,
    Terrorism and Islam:

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard
    for all of the other components.

    Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
    agitate for their religious privileges.

    When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse
    societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious
    privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as
    well..

    Here’s how it works:

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
    It is a trick.
    United States — Muslim 0..6%

    Australia — Muslim 1.5%

    Canada — Muslim 1.9%

    China — Muslim 1.8%

    Italy — Muslim 1.5%

    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic
    minorities and disaffected groups, often with major
    recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is
    happening in:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%

    Germany — Muslim 3.7%

    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

    Spain — Muslim 4%

    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamicstandards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for
    Muslims.They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature
    halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government
    to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos)
    under Sharia, the Islamic Law.

    The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law
    over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to
    increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.

    In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non Muslim
    action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons
    and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections. FRANCE

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting,
    jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks,
    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels.
    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some
    State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these
    nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim. Everyone copy and post this!

    • Ichabod Crain

      How depressing.

      • joker

        It is indeed depressing however there is a medicine: just fight back and throw them out. When muzzrats think to take over a civilized and well economized society who is going to pay for them? Just send them away by force, by now.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      When muslums are the minority they’re obsessed w/minority religious rights. When muslums are the majority there are no minority religious rights.

  • Ichabod Crain

    ISLAMIST INFILTRATION OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

    In June 2012, five Republican lawmakers (most prominently, Michele Bachmann) sent letters to the inspectors general at the Departments of Homeland Security, Justice, Defense, and State, asking that they investigate government “policies and activities that appear to be the result of influence operations conducted by individuals and organizations associated with the Muslim Brotherhood”—the ideological wellspring from which such terrorist outfits as al Qaeda and Hamas first emerged.[1] One letter, for instance, noted that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton‘s closest aide, her deputy chief of staff Huma Abedin, “has three family members … connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.” (In fact, Abedin herself spent 12 years working for for the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs, a Saudi-based Islamic think tank whose agenda was—and remains to this day, as journalist Andrew C. McCarthy explains—“to grow an unassimilated, aggressive population of Islamic supremacists who will gradually but dramatically alter the character of the West.” For details about this agenda, click here.)

    While Bachmann was widely criticized and ridiculed for daring to suggest that Muslim Brotherhood elements had infiltrated the U.S. government, corroboration of her allegations came, in December 2012, from an unlikely quarter: Egypt’s Rose El-Youssef magazine, which asserted that six highly-placed Muslim Brotherhood infiltrators within the Obama administration had transformed the United States “from a position hostile to Islamic groups and organizations in the world to the largest and most important supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood.” (A translation of the article is available from the Investigative Project here.)

    According to the Investigative Project, “the six named people include: Arif Alikhan, assistant secretary of Homeland Security for policy development; Mohammed Elibiary, a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council; Rashad Hussain, the U.S. special envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference; Salam al-Marayati, co-founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC); Imam Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA); and Eboo Patel, a member of President Obama’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships. These represent many of the individuals and groups about whom Bachmann had raised concerns.

    This section of Discover The Networks profiles these and other Islamists who have influenced, or have been appointed to positions within, the Obama administration. Also included in this section are a number of Islamists who have not officially been connected to the Obama administration, but who have had a significant influence on Obama’s thinking over the course of his life.

    Moreover, this section contains a link to a profile of the Barack H. Obama Foundation (BHOF), which was established in 2008 by Abon’go Malik Obama, President Obama’s half-brother, a Kenyan-born Muslim with twelve wives. Abon’go Malik Obama is:

    • the overseer of the Muslim Brotherhood’s international investments;
    • the executive secretary of the Sudan-based Islamic Da’wa Organization (IDO), an organization primarily focused on expanding Wahhabist Islam on the African subcontinent; and
    • closely associated with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, a jihadist tyrant responsible for the deaths of more than three million people, all in the name of Jihad and war against Christians.
    * Abedin, Huma: Deputy Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
    * Abunimah, Ali: Vice president of the Arab American Action Network
    * Al-Hibri, Azizah: U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom
    * Al-Mansour, Khalid Abdullah Tariq: Patron of Obama during 1980s
    * Al-Marayati, Salam: Representative of the U.S. government at the annual Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe conference
    * Alikhan, Areef: Department of Homeland Security
    * Arab American Action Network: Received money from Woods Fund when Obama was board member of Woods Fund
    * Barack H. Obama Foundation: Headed by President Obama’s half-brother, who oversees the Muslim Brotherhood’s international investments
    * Asbahi, Mazen: National Coordinator for Muslim American Affairs (during 2008 presidential campaign)
    * Elibiary, Mohamed: Homeland Security Advisory Council
    * Husaini, Minha: National Coordinator for Muslim American Affairs (during 2008 presidential campaign)
    * Hussain, Rashad: Special Envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference
    * Khalidi, Rashid: Professor of Middle East Studies at Columbia University
    * Magid, Mohamed: Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) Countering Violent

    Extremism Working Group
    * Mattson, Ingrid: Invited by Obama advisor to work on the White House Council on Women and Girls
    * Mogahed, Dalia: Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
    * Obama, Abon’go Malik: the older half-brother of Barack Obama
    * Patel, Eboo: Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships
    * Said, Edward: Professor and Arab activist who was keynote speaker at 1998 fundraiser attended by Obama
    * Shora, Kareem: Homeland Security Advisory Council
    * Shora, Nawar: Senior Advisor to the Civil Rights and Liberties Office of the Transportation Security Administration

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihfr-yx5aB4

    • Dorrie

      And every BIT of it is intentional and PLANNED.

    • IzlamIsTyranny

      The attacks on Bachmann made it pretty clear to me that the US federal government is corrupt and rotten to the core.

  • Juanita

    Saying that he will not give then legitimacy is saying that he is denying their existence.

    • Mahou Shoujo

      As is isis or anyone really cares what hussain says, he has demonstrated weak indecisive stupidity so often that he is no longer even a joke.

  • 762x51FMJ

    Fun with photoshop, Obamussolini

  • IzlamIsTyranny

    If 0mama had any balls he’d go right over the Islamic State and tell them in person — along w/his proletarian guard.

  • Robert Griffith

    I’m sick and tired of hearing someone who didn’t grow up as an American or a Christian lecture us about Christian and American values. Denial of reality is neither a Christian or American value. Stop urinating on real American Christians and then telling us it’s raining. We’re not falling for it and know more about American values than he ever will.

  • joe1429

    T minus 10 mos… and counting!!!!

  • JEANNIEMAC2

    Why/how an inexperienced man with a hidden background became president.

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/08/21/why-the-globalists-selected-obama-to-be-president/

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  • husseinovomit

    Burn in monkey hell Hussein o’ vomit. Die , traitor scum

  • Lenn

    Great article by Geller – again – and to the point!

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