Bill banning child marriage fails after it’s deemed un-Islamic in Muslim country

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Indeed.

In Islam, Muhammad is the perfect example. And his favorite wife, Aisha, was six when he married her. Nine when he consummated their marriage.

“Pakistan: Bill banning child marriage fails after it’s deemed un-Islamic,” By Robert Spencer, Jihadwatch, January 16, 2016:

Islamic apologists in the West argue furiously that child marriage has nothing to do with Islam, and that the idea that Muhammad married a child is the invention of greasy Islamophobes. In reality, few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah”s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).

Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.

Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.

Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:

The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.

Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”

According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.

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“Bill banning child marriage fails in Pakistan after it’s deemed ‘un-Islamic,’” by Ishaan Tharoor, Washington Post, January 15, 2016:

Pakistani lawmakers had to withdraw a bill aimed at curbing the practice of child marriage after a prominent religious body declared the legislation un-Islamic.

The bill, which proposed raising the marriage age for females from 16 to 18, also called for harsher penalties for those who would arrange marriages involving children. Despite the laws in place, child marriages, particularly involving young female brides, are common in parts of the country. It’s estimated that some 20 percent of girls in the country are married before they turn 18.

But the Council of Islamic Ideology, a constitutional body which gives advice to parliament on the compatibility of laws with Sharia, appeared to slap down the legislation after deeming it “un-Islamic” and “blasphemous,” according to Agence France Presse….

In 2013, reports AFP, “it suggested making DNA inadmissible evidence in rape cases, instead calling for the revival of an Islamic law that makes it mandatory for a survivor to provide four witnesses to back their claims.”…

That’s not just an “Islamic law” that some want to “revive”; that’s a Qur’anic directive (24:4, 24:13).

Clerics on the council object to minimum age requirements, arguing instead that an individual can marry once reaching puberty, which can be as early as the age of 9.

Nine, eh? Why did they decide on age nine?

  • Rick Smith

    Laws prohibiting underage marriage not Islamic: Council of
    Islamic Ideology

    ISLAMABAD-
    The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) ruled today that Pakistani laws prohibiting marriage of underage children are un-Islamic. At the end of its two-day session today, the CII said there is no minimum age of marriage according to Islam.

    http://nation.com.pk/national/11-Mar-2014/laws-prohibiting-underage-marriage-not-islamic-council-of-islamic-ideology

  • Voytek Gagalka

    Islam – the religion of (for and by) perverts. But I am repeating myself. Why the Western governments and parliaments sanction all this by calling Pakistan (and similar other countries which uphold such barbaric laws) a “friend and ally”?

  • Mahou Shoujo

    If muslims wish to behave like imbeciles in islamic nations, that is their folly, it is not to be accepted in civilization though. The more inbreeding and other reproductive perversion islam inflicts on its self, the faster it will destroy itself.

    • Rick Smith

      What pious muslims “wish to do”, is to follow their warmongering child molesting prophet’s example. He’s the perfect man according to them.

      • Mahou Shoujo

        Which would mean he is a perfect asswhole as well.

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      • Mahou Shoujo

        Islam is the validation of the breaking of every one of the ten commandments that Jews and Christians follow. Islam is the road to hell.

        • Leela Kim

          i believe you or people of Israel still hold Torah.

          * G-d instructs to kill brother, son, daughter,wife, or friend who worship another god (Deuteronomy 13:6)

          * G-d instructs to burn and kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

          * G-d ordered Saul to kill children, babies, young, old, gilrs, women, and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:3)

          * G-d instructs to kill every man in the town and keep all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

          * G-d assisted in capturing all cities and utterly destroy the men, women and children of every city – with no survivors (Deuteronomy 2:34)

          * G-d commanded to kill women & children “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity!Kill them all — old and young, girls and women and little children” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

          * G-d punished the Jews with cannibalism (e.g mother eating children) Jeremiah 19:9, Lamentations 4:10, 2 Kings 6:26-29, Deuteronomy 28:53-57

          * G-d approves selling daughters as sex slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)

          * G-d instructs to kill rape victim (Deuteronomy22:23-24 NAB)

          * G-d instructed Moses to ‘Take all the heads of the people and hang them up against the sun (Numbers 25:3-4)

          * G-d instructed Moses to take the blasphemer outside the camp then let the entire community stone him to death (Leviticus 24:10-16)

          * G-d instructed Moses to kill anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

          * G-d instructed Moses to go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, kill even your brothers, friends, and neighbors (Exodus 32:26-29)

          * G-d commanded Moses to seize all the ringleaders and execute them in broad daylight (Numbers 25:1-9)

          * G-d commanded to pursue, kill, and completely destroy the land of rebels (Jeremiah 50:21-22)

          * G-d says rape victims should marry their rapists, and the rapist pay 50 shekels (Deuteronomy 22:28-29

          * G-d instructs to kill non-virgin Women On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

          * G-d instructs to burn nasty daughter priest (Leviticus 21:9)

          * G-d instructs to kill People for Working on the Sabbath should be killed (Exodus 31:12-15)

          * G-d will make the people of Samaria fall by sword and their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)

          * G-d will bring evil upon people and will send the sword after them, till Jesus/God have consumed them (Jeremiah 49:37)

          * G-d chose Solomon whose 700 wives 300 concubines to be a king of Israel

          * G-d says okay with striking female or male slave with a rod as long as the slave survives a day or two (Exodus 21:20-21)

          * G-d s orders to kill those who do these (including):

          – Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)

          – Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus21:15,17)

          – Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) – Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)

          – Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29) – Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)

          – Human sacrifice (Leviticus 20:2-5) – Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)

          – Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36) – Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21) – Adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)

          – Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)

          – Prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9)

          – Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)

          – False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)

          – Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19) – Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)

          – Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

          • Rick Smith

            What’s your point? Can you show us what Christian or Jewish groups believe any of those over verses should be implemented? If not your tired old attempt at moral equivalency is fallacious, now isn’t it? You’ll have to find another way to protect Islam, this tactic ain’t working.

          • Leela Kim

            Lol this should work you y’all cotton err cherry picker. So that other would not say. They only want the PROMISED LAND. But not the PROMISED LAW. Hypocrite. Oh Islam should be protected by themselves alright. Cus essentially it’s religion of peace n luv.

            You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. (Quran)

            Virtue and evil are not equal. If you replace evil habits by virtuous ones, you will certainly find that your enemies will become your intimate friends. (Quran)

            And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”(Quran)

            The best of people are those that bring most benefit to the rest of mankind. (Hadith)

            Man is born from Adam (Adem) and Eve, and both of these parents, and all of humans, are made of dust, and in this right, no one person is better than the other (Prophet Muhammad Last sermon)

            All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab (Prophet Muhammad Last sermon)

            There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. (Quran)

            Proclaim: “This is the truth from your Lord,” then whoever wills let him believe, and whoever wills let him disbelieve (Quran)

            Religion is very easy, and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded. (Hadith)

            And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth – that He may recompense those who do evil with [the penalty of] what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best . Those who avoid the major sins and immoralities, only [committing] slight ones. Indeed, your Lord is vast in forgiveness.. So do not claim yourselves to be pure (Quran)

            Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Final Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.” (Quran)

            O People of the Book! Let us rally to a common formula TO BE BINDING on both us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God. (Quran)

            They are not all alike. Among the People of the Book there is a party who stand by their covenant; they recite the word of Allah in the hours of night and prostrate themselves before Him. (Quran)

            You shall not kill any person – for GOD has made life sacred (Quran)

            The Prophet, may Allah bless him, said, “Whoever killed a Mu’ahid (a person who is granted the pledge of protection by the Muslims) shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise though its fragrance can be smelt at a distance of forty years (of traveling).” (Hadith )

            If they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them (Quran)

            But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all things. (Quran)

            Do not say to one who offers you peace, “You are not a believer,” seeking the spoils of this world. For GOD possesses infinite spoils. Remember that you used to be like them, and GOD blessed you. (Quran)

            If anyone wrongs a man with whom a covenant has been made, or curtails any right of his, or imposes on him more than he can bear, or takes anything from him without his ready agreement, I shall be his adversary on the day of resurrection.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, Hadith 3052)

            Do not say, that if the people do good to us, we will do good to them; and if the people oppress us, we will oppress them; but determine that if people do you good, you will do good to them; and if they oppress you, you will not oppress them” (Prophet Muhammad)

            Umar (after he was stabbed), instructed (his would-be-successor) saying, “I urge him (i.e. the new Caliph) to take care of those non-Muslims who are under the protection of Allah and His Messenger in that he should observe the convention agreed upon with them, and fight on their behalf (to secure their safety) and he should not over-tax them beyond their capability.” (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith)

            A funeral procession once passed in front of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and he stood up out of respect. When he was told the person in the coffin was Jewish and not Muslim, he said: “Was it not a living (soul)?” (Hadith)

            The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “He will not enter Paradise whose neighbour is not secure from his wrongful conduct.” (Hadith)

            The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “The best charity is that given to a relative who does not like you. (Hadith)

            Do not turn away a poor man..even if all you can give is half a date. If you love the poor and bring them near you…GOD will bring you near HIM on the Day of Resurrection. (Hadith)

            And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. (Quran)

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d67e20bad50146255adbdba9fa2183e3196c41f9295af84ff2a30680513e0c48.jpg

            Therefore you could love it or deal with it hun. XOXO

          • Rick Smith

            LOL Careful, your Islam is showing. What is your point in copying and pasting this lengthy menagerie of verses?

          • Leela Kim

            Gee you don’t even bother to read the whole story ain’t cha? It’s the story of self defense. To fight the disbeliever aka the infidel. BUUUUUT not only your ordinary next-door infidel. Rather the infidel who pretended to be Muslim AND (with capital A-N-D ) wanted to kill the Prophet.

            # O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

            #They swear by Allah that they said nothing (bad), but really they said the word of disbelief, and they disbelieved after accepting Islam, and they resolved that (plot to murder Prophet Muhammad SAW) which they were unable to carry out, and they could not find any cause to do so except that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His Bounty.

            Even so, the Quran said these nasty fellas should be repent.

            # If then they repent, it will be better for them, but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful torment in this worldly life and in the Hereafter. And there is none for them on earth as a Wali (supporter, protector) or a helper.

            The same story (At Taubah) also contains the naturally meek side of Prophet Muhammad, which is very forgiving even to nasty fellows.

            # Whether you (O Muhammad SAW) ask forgiveness for them (hypocrites) or ask not forgiveness for them … (and even) if you ask seventy times for their forgiveness … Allah will not forgive them, because they have disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad SAW). And Allah guides not those people who are Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).

            The story of At Taubah ends with the description of the feeling of Muhammad who was always grieving and anxious about other people

            # Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from amongst yourselves (i.e. whom you know well). It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. He (Muhammad SAW) is anxious over you (to be rightly guided, to repent to Allah, and beg Him to pardon and forgive your sins, in order that you may enter Paradise and be saved from the punishment of the Hell-fire), for the believers (he SAW is) full of pity, kind, and merciful.

            And this is the what God ordered to Prophet Muhammad to those who turn away (last verse of At Taubah)

            # But if they turn away, [O Muhammad], say, “Sufficient for me is Allah ; there is no deity except Him. On Him I have relied, and He is the Lord of the Great Throne.”

            ~end of story~

            See, Even the story of At Taubah, is not even close to the oh-so-gruesome story of, let’s say, 1 Samuel 15:3 “Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'”

          • Rick Smith

            “Gee you don’t even bother to read the whole story ain’t cha? It’s the story of self defense”

            Bullshit moslem. The verse clearly states to…….”fight those that don’t believe in allah until they DO…….not fight those who are fighting you. I’m sure fight those that fight you also applies, elsewhere, as that criteria would for group or org.

          • Leela Kim

            Hmmm why you ask?

            Well i could say: You know what you’re right I should not post those verses because “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs ” *

            or perhaps i want to imitate “He (Muhammad SAW) is anxious over you (to be rightly guided, to repent to Allah, and beg Him to pardon and forgive your sins, in order that you may enter Paradise and be saved from the punishment of the Hell-fire), for the believers (he SAW is) full of pity, kind, and merciful”

          • Rick Smith

            You can post all the verses you want, moslem, but they don’t negate allah’s commandment to fight those…. who do not believe in allah…. until the do believe in allah…. or live under the yoke of Islamic law as humiliated dhimmis. Do they?

          • American 1st.

            @leelakim:disqus Screw you and the pigs you worship!

          • Rick Smith

            “Cus essentially it’s religion of peace n luv”

            Sorta like this kind of “luv” lol

            SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
            Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

            http://quran.com/9/29

          • Mahou Shoujo

            Please make reference to the New Testament when referring to Christians. Would you comment on this legal event in Egypt, pertaining to necrophilia in islam? How about Takiyya is defined as dissimulation about ones Muslim identity. It comes from the verse in the Quran that says, “Let believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does has nothing to hope for from Allah – except in self-defense (illaa an-tattaqu minhum tuqah) (Surah 3:28). This “self-defense” justifies dissimulation. Islamic Sharia Law provides, “When it is possible to achieve an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible, and lying is obligatory if the goal is obligatory.” (Reliance of the Traveler, Para r8.2) Examples include lying to protect Islam or a Muslim.
            Tawriya

            Tawriya is defined as concealing, and it could be called “creative lying”. It is OK to break the intent of the oath, as long as you don’t break the letter of the oath. (Reliance of the Traveler, sections o19.1 and o19.5) How does this work? Suppose someone protests that Surah 1 of the Quran demeans Christians and Jews, because it is a supplication Muslims make to Allah seventeen times a day to keep them from the path of “those with whom God is angry” and “those who have lost their way”. A Muslim might respond, “Surah 1 never mentions Jews or Christians.” He is practicing tawriya, because while Surah 1 does not mention Jews and Christians by name, but he knows full-well that the words “those” refer to Jews and Christians.

            Another example would be when a Muslim responds to your greeting of “Merry Christmas!” He might say, “I wish you the best.” In your mind, you think he has returned a Christmas greeting. In actuality, he has expressed his wish for you to convert to Islam; he wishes the best for you which, in his view, is becoming a Muslim.

            Kitman

            Kitman is characterized by someone telling only part of the truth. The most common example of this is when a Muslim says that jihad really refers to an internal, spiritual struggle. He is not telling “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth”, as witnesses are sworn to do in U.S. courts. Often, kitman results in a gross distortion of the truth. In the example given, the Quran uses jihad and its derivatives 59 times. Of those, only 16 (27%) could be considered “internal” with no object as the target of the struggle based on the context of the surah.

            Another common form of kitman is to quote only the few peaceful passages from the Quran, knowing full-well that that passage was later abrogated by a more militant, contradictory verse. Here is an example:

            “There is no compulsion in religion” (Surah 2:256) Early Medina

            “Are they seeking a religion other than Allah’s, when every soul in the heavens and earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?” (Surah 3:83 Later Medina)

            Another example:

            “Permission to take up arms is hereby given to those who are attacked, because they have been wronged.” (Surah 22:39) Late Mecca

            “When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere for them.” (Surah 9:5) Late Medina

            Muruna

            Muruna means using “flexibility” to blend in with the enemy or the surroundings. The justification for this kind of deception is a somewhat bizarre interpretation of Surah 2:106, which says, “If we abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We will replace it by a better one or similar.” Thus, Muslims may forget some of the commands in the Quran, as long as they are pursuing a better command. Muslims striving to advance Islam, therefore, can deviate from their Islamic laws in order to cause non-Muslims to lower their guard and place their trust in their Muslim counterpart.

            At times, Muslims practice muruna in the same way a chameleon changes colors to avoid detection. Muslims will sometimes shave off their beards, wear western clothing, or even drink alcohol to blend in with non-Muslims. Nothing is more valuable these days to the Islamists than a blue-eyed Caucasian Muslim willing to engage in terrorism.

            Another common way of using muruna is for a Muslim to marry a non-Muslim or to behave like a non-Muslim so their true agenda will not be suspected. The 9/11 hijackers visited strip clubs and bars during their off-times while taking classes in the U.S. to fly airplanes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the White House. Many Americans believe Hillary Clinton’s aide, Huma Abedin, married Jewish Congressman Anthony Weiner at least in part to burnish her security credentials so she could infiltrate the highest levels of the Administration.

            The implications of these highly-honed tactics of deception could be enormous for unassuming Western societies. Twenty years ago, psychologist Paul Ekman wrote an insightful book, “Telling Lies”, which demonstrated that people give off recognizable clues when they are practicing deceit. Their consciences cause them, involuntarily, to sweat or raise their voices or make other recognizable gestures. However, Dr. Ekman’s research was exclusively with people from Western cultures. Muslims, on the other hand, show no discernible signs when they are being deceitful because there is no feeling of guilt. In their minds they are doing exactly what Allah wants them to do to advance Islam. Because any Western person who has raised children knows almost intuitively when someone is lying, so they assume they can do that in all cases. Unfortunately, those same Western people can be easily duped by Islamic deceit because there are no tell-tale signs in the deceiver.

            Hopefully, this article will be a wake-up call to the unsuspecting infidels. Trust but verify – as was an old American strategy in dealing with potentially hostile parties – is the way to go in dealing with Islamists.

          • American 1st.

            @leelakim:disqus What a sham you have proven yourself to be. First there are only 18 verses in Deuteronomy 13 but that aside; one must consider that this is the word of the one true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob speaking, not the false moon god of Islam. Second, it is a shame that the people did not carry out their orders thousands of years ago, so we wouldn’t have to deal with the slime we know as “Radical Islamists or Jihadists” which translates into the barbaric, murderous, child molesting, rapists we know as Muslims. What a bunch of sick perverts, men who rape little boys and girls or animals because they can’t compete with real men. I know because I was married to one and it was pathetic. They mutilate the female genitals, which results in painful intercourse, infections and difficult childbirth, just so their little penises can be pleasured, with the women no longer able to experience the full pleasure of the marriage bed. A rape victim must have 4 male witnesses which I suspect would actually result in a gang rape rather than them protecting the female. If a female rape victim does not have the required number of witnesses, she will be sentenced to a public beating with a whip. One girl in Yemen who reported her rape without the 4 male witnesses was sentenced to 100 lashes with a whip but she died after receiving 80 lashes. The rapists was not punished at all. If you wish to delude yourself thinking Islam is a religion of peace, perhaps you have not been paying attention to the reports of innocent men, women and children being beheaded or crucified for their faith. If Islam is so great, why do they have to force it on people? Here are some reminders of just how evil Islam is besides the fact that it condones lying, cheating, extorting, murder, rape, sex slavery and slavery in general, child molestation/rape, etc.:
            I could add more but I think you should get the point!

          • joe1429

            And goats too, when no kids are around

          • Leela Kim

            Heck i could also cherry pick what Jesus said in the Bible.
            I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled

            Do you think I came to bring PEACE on earth? NO, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.

            “If
            anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and
            wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life,
            he cannot be My disciple.

            Now, as for those enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and kill them in my presence!

            Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a SWORD.

            If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

            And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell

            For
            I came to set at variance ‘A man against his father, and a daughter
            against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law,

            He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

            Or cherry pick what the west do. Let’s say killing 88.000.000 humans in World War II alone. or Inquistions or in global slavery. Where are the natives indians now btw? Were they replaced by arabs?

          • Leela Kim
          • byronmullet

            Isaiah 55:“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord.
            9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
            So are My ways higher than your ways
            And My thoughts than your thoughts…

            Job 38:1Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

            2“Who is this that obscures my plans

            with words without knowledge?

            3Brace yourself like a man;

            I will question you,

            and you shall answer me.

            4“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?

            I Corinthians 13:12 For now we see in a mirror [e]dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. 13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the [f]greatest of these is love.

            Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of [o]the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” 11 Now that no one is justified [p]by [q]the Law before God is evident; for, “[r]The righteous man shall live by faith.”12 [s]However, the Law is not [t]of faith; on the contrary, “He who practices them shall live [u]by them.”13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a [v]tree”— 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might [w]come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith…23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a [ai]tutor. 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

          • Leela Kim
          • byronmullet

            2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for …… All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine,
            for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

            Ecclesiastes 3:14 I know that everything God does will endure …… I know that all God does will last forever; there is no adding to it or taking from
            it. … last for eternity—nothing can be added to it nor taken away from it .

            Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from thewords of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and [i]from the holy city, which are written in this book…

        • joe1429

          that is why europe is under a rapeugee crisis right now, which will get worse!!

          • Mahou Shoujo

            For as long as europeans allow their girls to be prey mats for muslims, and pay attractive welfare to the dregs of humanity, they will be used and played as the fools they are. If they ever smarten up, kicking socialism and its parasitic multiculturalism to the curb, europe will be a better place.

  • SchoolinSession

    So Muslims love little girls and Catholic Priests love little boys. Religion is sick. Got it.

    • Rick Smith

      Well, the colossal difference in your fallacious moral equivalency attempt is that Christians, and the church, don’t see molesting priests as acceptable behavior, but we see acceptable child molestation in the ummah, time and time again backed up by, laws, Imams, and religious councils… and Muhammad’s own example.

      • KimWilde

        Rick, catholic churches always seem to hide the priests that are pedofiles so that would lead one to believe that the vatican is full of that same problem ?

        • Rick Smith

          The Catholic Church has apologized for any cover ups that occurred and vowed to rid the church of molesters. That isn’t acceptance that is rejection. We see cover ups all over to protect an institutions reputation, in more than just the church but in universities, Boy Scouts, young sports, etc etc. That isn’t avowed acceptance as we see in the ummah. All based on Muhammad’s own evil example.

          • KimWilde

            Rick, than why does the catholic church try to move all the funds into a cemetery so they can claim bankruptcy and avoid paying any of the claims against them ?

          • Rick Smith

            What does this have to do with reliable sources that state Mary’s age at the time of her marraige?

          • KimWilde

            Rick, I think you replied to the wrong statement. I’m talking about the catholic church hiding it’s true intentions with its pedofile priests.

          • Rick Smith

            The Church isn’t the only org. that has been caught hiding embarrassing crimes just as, universities have, and sports org have, even the Boy Scouts of America have. But that doesn’t mean those organizations accept what was done, unlike how we see such acceptance by authoritative Islamic religious bodies such as the article this thread is attached too. So your moral equivalency tactic doesn’t apply, does it, moslem?

          • Rick Smith

            How many times must I reply to this? Here: I;ll post it again:

            “The Catholic Church has apologized for any cover ups that occurred and vowed to rid the church of molesters. That isn’t acceptance that is rejection. We see cover ups all over to protect an institutions reputation, in more than just the church but in universities, Boy Scouts, young sports, etc etc”

    • olddog

      Well you live next to the Head-hunters and i’ll take my chances around the Lion Food folks..keep your head on straight…

    • BrunoPBuhr

      Pathetic monsters molest/rape children. Those that defend them would sleep with dogs and pigs just like their hero child rapists. Deviant priests are guilty by themselves because their actions aren’t aligned with accepted Christian beliefs. In the moon god religion (Baal was a integral part of this ancient cult) it is proscribed as behavior that is not only acceptable but expected. Since this 🌙 god religion does the opposite of the 10 commandments there is a very good chance that they actually worship Satan.

  • EJO

    This topic is way off, but I can’t help being suspicious.

    After all; Mr. Levinson is a Jew. And we all know how much Barry loves Israel.
    ———-
    Coral Springs Family Devastated After Iran Hostage Is “Left Behind”

    January 16, 2016 11:52 AM

    CORAL SPRINGS (CBSMiami) — The family of Robert Levinson, a former FBI agent who was taken hostage in Iran in 2007, has spoken out after learning that Levinson was not one of four prisoners freed by the Iranian government as part of a prison swap deal with the U.S. on Saturday.

    In a statement released Saturday morning, Levinson’s family said:

    “We are happy for the other families. But once again Bob Levinson has been left behind. We are devastated.”

    Levinson reportedly went missing on Kish Island, Iran in March 2007. He is a retired FBI and DEA agent with 28 years of service as a U.S. government employee.

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/01/16/coral-springs-family-devastated-after-iran-hostage-is-left-behind/

  • EJO

    OK; OK!

    I know this is way off topic. But it is also very funny.

    New York values boys, and girls. New York values.
    ———-
    Curbside Relief=> Masturbation Booth Pops Up on NYC Street to Help With Mid-day Stress

    Jim Hoft Jan 16th, 2016 9:58 am

    There’s now a Masturbation Station in New York City for men to relieve some stress during the workday.

    On Tuesday, Hot Octopuss erected what it called a “GuyFi” booth on 28th Street and 5th Avenue in New York City, where men could, in theory, go to “relieve stress.”

    The company simply put a cloth over a phone booth in what amounted to a marketing gimmick. Inside was a chair and a laptop.

    Hot Octopuss was inspired by a Time Out survey, which concluded that 39% of
    the New York men it questioned admitted to masturbating while at work.

    A more expansive Glamour survey of 1,000 men in 2012 suggested 31% of its
    readers have done so.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/curbside-relief-masturbation-booth-pops-up-on-nyc-street-to-help-with-mid-day-stress/

  • Steve Brown

    Sharia Law is the incompatible and ultimate enemy of every free democratic nation on earth.

    • ruthy k

      May I add in -every moral sane nation- as well?

  • Shafiq Islam

    It’s amazing that so many Muslim apologists in the west try to deny Muhammad’s child molestation by claiming that Aisha was much older, although ahadith say she was six lunar years when married and nine lunar years when the prophet first penetrated her. There is authorisation for marriage to prepubescent girls in the Qur’an and it has been, and is, permitted in many Muslim countries.

    Famous Muslim preachers Yusuf Estes and Zakir Naik have now had to stop denying Aisha’s age and claim, incredibly, that she was “a mature lady” at 8 years and 8 months solar age. They claim she had reached puberty, which is doubtful, but even so it would be wrong.

    Surely a wise, compassionate and all-knowing deity would not subject young children to this. Consider what would happen to mother and baby if a nine year old got pregnant. The risk is very high, but Muhammad cared only for his own sick pleasure and not at all for the girl and his potential child.

  • Po Tato

    “Islamic” … you know what is ‘Islamic’ ??

    Because a certain ‘mohammad’ raped a 9-year-old girl, to most of the moslems, raping 9-year-old girl is considered to be ‘100% Islamic

  • Leela Kim

    How old Mary was when Jesus was born? 12?13?14? What would you call her if the event happened now? Wow, Jesus had an underage mum?
    – Joseph (90 years old) married Mary when she was 12 years olds. Was Joseph a child molester?
    -Unlike Aisha, Mary was physiologically, emotionally, mentally devastated with the unusual pregnancy. Was God a child molester?
    – Previously, Aisha WAS ALREADY engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday.
    – Queen Isabelle (aka Queen of Inquisition) first betrothal was when she’s 6 years old.
    – According to Bible Rebekah was 3 years old when she married Issac (40 years old)
    – According to Talmud (Mishnah -Niddah 44b) , a girl of the age of 3 can be married by sexual relations
    – In England, until 1929, the legal age was 14 for boys and 12 for girls.
    – In the USA, in the 1890s, several states had an age of consent as low as 10.
    – In Delaware, 1895, the age of consent in Delaware was 7.
    – – quran says marriage must be based on mutual consent of both man and
    woman, written in formal convent (4:21). Related families (as Wali) must also be present to give the blessing, practically making marriage law as something progressively fit with local custom/culture and times in which the event is held.
    – Now what was age of consent 1.400 years ago?

    • Shafiq Islam

      You are speculating as to Mary’s age, and in any case no old pervert penetrated her vagina for his own pleasure. Yes, people married younger in the past, in part because life expectancies were much lower and infant and child mortality higher. However, which religion still hangs onto those practices? Christians and Jews learn from experience and adapt to advances in the sciences, while Muslims are mired in ignorance, superstition and primitivity.

      • Leela Kim
      • Leela Kim

        According to Jewish customs at the time, a young woman might become betrothed to a young man as early as 12 years of age, though the consummation of their marriage through ceremony and physical intimacy would not happen until they were legally married, many months or even years later. Child bride HUH???

        • Shafiq Islam

          You keep harping on this, but lets consider some differences. Even if she were 12, that is much older and more mature than six, when your prophet started lusting after and molesting Aisha, or even 8 years 8 months, when he started penetrating her. Mary’s pregnancy was not a result of sexual molestation.

          Let’s look at something else. Even your Qur’an says that Mary and Jesus were sinless. However, look at the catalogue of sins committed by your prophet: warmongering, genocide, murder, rape, child molestation, armed robbery, plunder, slavery, vindictiveness and terrorism. How can you believe a man like that? And what kind of morals do people acquire when they emulate him, as the Qur’an tells them to do?

      • Leela Kim

        “And when she was twelve years old there was held a council of priests, saying, ‘Behold, Mary has reached the age of twelve years in the temple of the Lord. What then shall we do with her, lest perchance she defile the sanctuary of the Lord?’ And they said to the high priest, ‘You stand by the altar of the Lord; go in and pray concerning her, and whatever the Lord shall manifest to you, that also will we do.’ . . . [A]nd he prayed concerning her, and behold, an angel of the Lord stood by him saying, ‘Zechariah! Zechariah! Go out and assemble the widowers of the people and let them bring each his rod, and to whomsoever the Lord shall show a sign, his wife shall she be. . . . And Joseph [was chosen]. . . . And the priest said to Joseph, ‘You have been chosen by lot to take into your keeping the Virgin of the Lord.’ But Joseph refused, saying, ‘I have children, and I am an old man, and she is a young girl’” (ibid., 8–9).

        “And Annas the scribe came to him [Joseph] . . . and saw that Mary was with child. And he ran away to the priest and said to him, ‘Joseph, whom you did vouch for, has committed a grievous crime.’ And the priest said, ‘How so?’ And he said, ‘He has defiled the virgin whom he received out of the temple of the Lord and has married her by stealth’” (ibid., 15).

        “And the priest said, ‘Mary, why have you done this? And why have you brought your soul low and forgotten the Lord your God?’ . . . And she wept bitterly saying, ‘As the Lord my God lives, I am pure before him, and know not man’” (ibid.).

        • Shafiq Islam

          What translation are you quoting?

      • Leela Kim

        Didn’t i hear someone scream “OMG,,,!!!!! Child bride”? Or “How could God molest poor young Mary”???

        PS: Unlike Mary, Aisha never felt physiologically devastated. For it was nothing bizarre 1.400 years ago. Heck 100 years ago (1895) Delaware’s age of consent is 7!!

        • Shafiq Islam

          Oh, so you are omniscient? How do you know how Aisha felt? With the astounding lack of empathy and sociopathic outlook inculcated by your beliefs I wouldn’t expect you to, but could a little girl really have enjoyed being molested by a promiscuous old pervert? And don’t the Shi’ites maintain that she poisoned the perverted prophet? Could she have really expressed hatred of him and survived amongst that homicidal community?

  • Leela Kim

    And Geller, what do you think when Torah says this:

    * G-d instructs to kill brother, son, daughter,wife, or friend who worship another god (Deuteronomy 13:6)

    * G-d instructs to burn and kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

    * G-d ordered Saul to kill children, babies, young, old, gilrs, women, and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:3)

    *
    G-d instructs to kill every man in the town and keep all the women,
    children, livestock, and other plunder. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

    *
    G-d assisted in capturing all cities and utterly destroy the men, women
    and children of every city – with no survivors (Deuteronomy 2:34)

    *
    G-d commanded to kill women & children “Follow him through the city
    and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no
    pity!Kill them all — old and young, girls and women and little
    children” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

    * G-d punished the Jews with cannibalism
    (e.g mother eating children) Jeremiah 19:9, Lamentations 4:10, 2 Kings
    6:26-29, Deuteronomy 28:53-57

    * G-d approves selling daughters as sex slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)

    * G-d instructs to kill rape victim (Deuteronomy22:23-24 NAB)

    * G-d instructed Moses to ‘Take all the heads of the people and hang them up against the sun (Numbers 25:3-4)

    *
    G-d instructed Moses to take the blasphemer outside the camp then let
    the entire community stone him to death (Leviticus 24:10-16)

    * G-d instructed Moses to kill anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

    *
    G-d instructed Moses to go back and forth from one end of the camp to
    the other, kill even your brothers, friends, and neighbors (Exodus
    32:26-29)

    * G-d commanded Moses to seize all the ringleaders and execute them in broad daylight (Numbers 25:1-9)

    * G-d commanded to pursue, kill, and completely destroy the land of rebels (Jeremiah 50:21-22)

    * G-d says rape victims should marry their rapists, and the rapist pay 50 shekels (Deuteronomy 22:28-29

    * G-d instructs to kill non-virgin Women On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

    * G-d instructs to burn nasty daughter priest (Leviticus 21:9)

    * G-d instructs to kill People for Working on the Sabbath should be killed (Exodus 31:12-15)

    *
    G-d will make the people of Samaria fall by sword and their little ones
    will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea
    13:16)

    * G-d will bring evil upon people and will send the sword after them, till Jesus/God have consumed them (Jeremiah 49:37)

    * G-d chose Solomon whose 700 wives 300 concubines to be a king of Israel

    * G-d says okay with striking female or male slave with a rod as long as the slave survives a day or two (Exodus 21:20-21)

    * G-d s orders to kill those who do these (including):

    – Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)

    – Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus21:15,17)

    – Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) – Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)


    Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus
    21:28-29) – Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27,
    Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)

    – Human sacrifice (Leviticus 20:2-5) – Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)


    Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36) –
    Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21) – Adultery (Leviticus
    20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)

    – Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)

    – Prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9)

    – Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)

    – False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)

    – Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19) – Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)

    – Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

    • Leela Kim

      And Spencer, what do you think when Jesus said this about Torah

      Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his
      disciples, saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat
      on the chair of Moses. Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever
      they tell you

      For truly, I say to you,
      till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the
      law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of
      these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the
      kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called
      great in the kingdom of heaven.

      But
      it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for onestroke of a
      letter in the Torah to become void Do not think that I came to abolish
      the Torah or the Neviim. I did not come to abolish but to complete. For,
      omein, truly I say to you, until Shomayim and haaretz pass away, not
      one yod, not one tag (ornamental flourish), will pass from the Torah
      until everything is accomplished.

      Anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches
      others accordingly will be called least in thekingdom of heaven, but
      whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the
      kingdom of heaven

      For I say unto you
      that unless your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the
      scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of
      Heaven

      But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.

      Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments.

      If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.

      “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.”

      • Leela Kim

        And don’t give excuse about that’s the Old Testament stuff.. And don’t bring Paul verses for he had violated Jesus teaching

        What Paul said

        Indeed, because it was weak and ineffective, the former commandment has been annulled

        Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a
        justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.

        Because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law here is no transgression

        But the Law has nothing to do with faith. Instead, The person who keeps the commandments will have life in them.

        The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me.

        For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

      • Shafiq Islam

        All was accomplished with the resurrection, ascension and coming of the Holy Spirit.

        • Leela Kim

          Nope Jesus never said that. Paul said that.

          Which part of these verse that you don’t UNDERSTAND ?

          Whoever then relaxes one of the least of
          these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the
          kingdom of heaven

          • Shafiq Islam

            Leela, unlike you, we do not believe that God dictated a book verbatim. St. Paul was expressing his own opinion, and he himself advocated for abolition of kosher dietary rules and circumcision for Christians.

          • Leela Kim

            Whom do you follow anyway? God / Jesus / Paul?
            For God of OT + Jesus says A

            but Paul says B.

          • Leela Kim

            Do you enjoy Heresy brought by Paul? Aka those who contradict BLATANTLY VULGARLY Jesus teaching?

          • Shafiq Islam

            Leela, the difference between you and us is that you can blaspheme our God and insult our religion, and we won’t harm you at all. On the other hand, in your religion those who blaspheme should be murdered.

          • Leela Kim

            What blasphemy? Didn’t i alter any of those verses. Utter fail sister, utter fail.

          • Fred Sawyer

            Best comment of the day.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I follow Jesus, who taught love, peace, forgiveness and kindness, not Muhammad who taught war, slavery, murder, rape and intolerance.

          • Leela Kim
          • Leela Kim

            And this is the image for those who claim Jesus = God = God of Old Testament

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f49a1b8ca589c9b84f8ade0f7b88b283b38809c6729464d6e67d62d26ea3fef4.jpg

          • Leela Kim

            Phew, thanks Allah, Muslims were taught that Jesus is nothing but a ordinary man. Not some of demi-God who once killed babies.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/674fbbb5b0f453c3ea79004d065a176c5d87b876a7df1b464d066a4c5c4852bb.jpg

          • Shafiq Islam

            Again you fall into the same trap of textual literalism you apply to your Qur’an. We know that the Bible was written by human beings, while you don’t admit the same of your Qur’an.

          • Leela Kim

            Double standard. When preaching Xtian said: These are Words of God. Free from error and contradictions!

            Under critics they will say. These were written by human. Error and contradictions are ordinary.

          • Shafiq Islam

            I never said that, but what of the ludicrous scientific concepts in the Qur’an? Why do you believe that a genocidaire, warmonger, murderer, torturer, rapist, child molester, adulterer and liar is God’s supreme prophet and that God wants people to emulate a monster like that?

          • Leela Kim

            God wants people to emulate a monster like that?? Are you sick or what? Since you believe Jesus is God, well God in Bible said these / Did these. Therefore in your thick head, Jesus did these monstrous thing?

            * G-d instructs to kill brother, son, daughter,wife, or friend who worship another god (Deuteronomy 13:6)

            * G-d instructs to burn and kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

            * G-d ordered Saul to kill children, babies, young, old, gilrs, women, and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:3)

            *
            G-d instructs to kill every man in the town and keep all the women,
            children, livestock, and other plunder. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

            *
            G-d assisted in capturing all cities and utterly destroy the men, women
            and children of every city – with no survivors (Deuteronomy 2:34)

            *
            G-d commanded to kill women & children “Follow him through the city
            and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no
            pity!Kill them all — old and young, girls and women and little
            children” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

            * G-d punished the Jews with cannibalism
            (e.g mother eating children) Jeremiah 19:9, Lamentations 4:10, 2 Kings
            6:26-29, Deuteronomy 28:53-57

            * G-d approves selling daughters as sex slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)

            * G-d instructs to kill rape victim (Deuteronomy22:23-24 NAB)

            * G-d instructed Moses to ‘Take all the heads of the people and hang them up against the sun (Numbers 25:3-4)

            *
            G-d instructed Moses to take the blasphemer outside the camp then let
            the entire community stone him to death (Leviticus 24:10-16)

            * G-d instructed Moses to kill anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

            *
            G-d instructed Moses to go back and forth from one end of the camp to
            the other, kill even your brothers, friends, and neighbors (Exodus
            32:26-29)

            * G-d commanded Moses to seize all the ringleaders and execute them in broad daylight (Numbers 25:1-9)

            * G-d commanded to pursue, kill, and completely destroy the land of rebels (Jeremiah 50:21-22)

            * G-d says rape victims should marry their rapists, and the rapist pay 50 shekels (Deuteronomy 22:28-29

            * G-d instructs to kill non-virgin Women On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

            * G-d instructs to burn nasty daughter priest (Leviticus 21:9)

            * G-d instructs to kill People for Working on the Sabbath should be killed (Exodus 31:12-15)

            *
            G-d will make the people of Samaria fall by sword and their little ones
            will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea
            13:16)

            * G-d will bring evil upon people and will send the sword after them, till Jesus/God have consumed them (Jeremiah 49:37)

            * G-d chose Solomon whose 700 wives 300 concubines to be a king of Israel

            * G-d says okay with striking female or male slave with a rod as long as the slave survives a day or two (Exodus 21:20-21)

            * G-d s orders to kill those who do these (including):

            – Murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)

            – Attacking or cursing a parent (Exodus21:15,17)

            – Disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) – Kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)


            Failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus
            21:28-29) – Witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus 22:18, Leviticus 20:27,
            Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)

            – Human sacrifice (Leviticus 20:2-5) – Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)


            Doing work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36) –
            Incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21) – Adultery (Leviticus
            20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)

            – Homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)

            – Prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9)

            – Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)

            – False prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)

            – Perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19) – Refusing to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)

            – Sex between a woman pledged to be married and a man other than her betrothed (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

          • Shafiq Islam

            As I have repeatedly told you, I don’t believe that God said that. However, you keep dodging the question as to why you follow a genocidal, murdering, slaving, raping, child molesting, robbing, plundering prophet. Please answer.

          • Leela Kim

            You say you don’t believe that God said that? Then you don’t believe Bible. Don’t call yourself a christian. Be a wiccan or something. Please answer

          • Leela Kim

            Christians believe
            * Jesus = God
            * God = Jesus
            Therefore Christians believe, Jesus killed billions of people. e.g:

            * God = Jesus killed all of people, animals, plants, and other living being on planet earth via the great flood (Genesis 7:23)
            *
            God = Jesus instructed Prophet Moses to take avenge on Midianites.
            After burning cities, slaying all males of Midianites, the army brought
            women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of
            all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods to Moses.
            However Moses instructed to kill every male (children and babies too),
            and woman from the captives. Virgins were kept alive (Numbers 31 – 1-18)
            *
            God = Jesus instructed Saul to kill children, babies, young, old,
            gilrs, women, and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:3). However God = Jesus felt
            upset because Saul didn’t destroy Amaleks since he kept the fat calves
            and lambs of the Amaleks (1 Samuel 15:11)
            * God = Jesus instructs to kill brother, son, daughter,wife, or friend who worship another god (Deuteronomy 13:6)
            * God = Jesus instructs to burn and kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
            *
            God = Jesus instructs to kill every man in the town and keep all the
            women, children, livestock, and other plunder. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
            *
            God = Jesus assisted in capturing all cities and utterly destroy the
            men, women and children of every city – with no survivors (Deuteronomy
            2:34)
            *
            God = Jesus commanded to kill women & children “Follow him through
            the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy;
            have no pity!Kill them all — old and young, girls and women and little
            children” (Ezekiel 9:5-7)
            *
            God = Jesus punished the Jews with cannibalism (e.g mother eating
            children) Jeremiah 19:9, Lamentations 4:10, 2 Kings 6:26-29, Deuteronomy
            28:53-57
            * God = Jesus approves selling daughters as sex slaves (Exodus 21:7-11)
            * God = Jesus instructs to kill rape victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
            * God = Jesus instructed Moses to ‘Take all the heads of the people and hang them up against the sun (Numbers 25:3-4)
            *
            God = Jesus instructed Moses to take the blasphemer outside the camp
            then let the entire community stone him to death (Leviticus 24:10-16)
            * God = Jesus instructed Moses to kill anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
            *
            God = Jesus instructed Moses to go back and forth from one end of the
            camp to the other, kill even your brothers, friends, and neighbors
            (Exodus 32:26-29)
            * God = Jesus commanded Moses to seize all the ringleaders and execute them in broad daylight (Numbers 25:1-9)
            * God = Jesus commanded to pursue, kill, and completely destroy the land of rebels (Jeremiah 50:21-22)
            * God = Jesus says rape victims should marry their rapists, and the rapist pay 50 shekels (Deuteronomy 22:28-29
            * God = Jesus instructs to kill non-virgin Women On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
            * God = Jesus instructs to burn nasty daughter priest (Leviticus 21:9)
            * God = Jesus instructs to kill People for Working on the Sabbath should be killed (Exodus 31:12-15)
            *
            God = Jesus will make the people of Samaria fall by sword and their
            little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped
            open. (Hosea 13:16)
            * God = Jesus will bring evil upon people and will send the sword after them, till Jesus/God have consumed them (Jeremiah 49:37)
            * God = Jesus chose Solomon whose 700 wives 300 concubines to be a king of Israel
            * God = Jesus’s okay with striking female or male slave with a rod as long as the slave survives a day or two (Exodus 21:20-21)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit murder (Exodus 21:12-14; Leviticus 24:17,21)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who Attack or curse a parent (Exodus 21:15,17)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who are disobedience to parents (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit kidnapping (Exodus 21:16)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who are failure to confine a dangerous animal, resulting in death (Exodus 21:28-29)
            *
            God = Jesus orders to kill those who do witchcraft and sorcery (Exodus
            22:18, Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 13:5, 1 Samuel 28:9)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who have Sex with an animal (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:16)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14, 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit incest (Leviticus 18:6-18, 20:11-12,14,17,19-21)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit adultery (Leviticus 20:10; Deuteronomy 22:22)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit homosexual acts (Leviticus 20:13)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit prostitution by a priest’s daughter (Leviticus 21:9)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who commit blasphemy (Leviticus 24:14,16, 23)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who do false prophecy (Deuteronomy 18:20)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who do perjury in capital cases (Deuteronomy 19:16-19)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill those who refuse to obey a decision of a judge or priest (Deuteronomy 17:12)
            * God = Jesus orders to kill women pledged to be married and men other than her betrothed who had sex (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

          • Shafiq Islam

            As I have told you several times already, we do not believe that everything in the Old Testament is literally true. In fact, Jesus contradicted all of the things you mention. However, your Allah is certainly a bloodthirsty character.

          • Leela Kim

            Lol cherry picker. You are pathetic. Priest will condemn you by saying you are heretic for believing only part of bible you like. but not the gruesome, bloodthirsty part.

          • Shafiq Islam

            No, priests will not condemn me. This is standard Christian theology, of which you know nothing. But you still haven’t told me why you follow a criminal like Muhammad, why you approve of genocide, murder, slavery, rape, child molestation and robbery?

          • Leela Kim

            Lol in Bible were wayyyyy lot of verses about genocide, murder, slavery, rape, child molestation and robbery. If God in the Bible instructed genocide, does that mean Jesus instructed genocide. You know nothing about bible.

          • Shafiq Islam

            You still haven’t answered. You keep evading the fact that you worship Satan’s apostle, a criminal and pervert. Go somewhere else and peddle your sick beliefs, because no one here is going to fall for such trash.

          • Leela Kim

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f49a1b8ca589c9b84f8ade0f7b88b283b38809c6729464d6e67d62d26ea3fef4.jpg

            Thanks Allah, we see Jesus as human. Just like Solomon, David, Moses, Noah, or Muhammad who are submitted to Allah’s will. Otherwise you’d see Jesus as viewed above.

          • Leela Kim

            Epic fail sister, epic fail. No wonder people become atheist rather than worshiping three gods

          • Shafiq Islam

            I am not going to argue with you because you know nothing of Christianity, nothing of God, nothing of love and grace. All you know is your primitive, warmongering, hate-filled book.

          • Leela Kim

            You are primitive, warmongering, hate-filled because you know nothing but Pamellageller dot com

          • Shafiq Islam

            How do you know what I know and what I read?

        • Leela Kim

          All was accomplished with the resurrection, ascension and coming of the Holy Spirit — Utter fail. That would be heresy according to Jesus.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39f1312c8edb9a0cc24c4cdaa9a35a8e4a71b58dedac7107dbbad7984a81776f.jpg

    • Shafiq Islam

      Those were very early in Jewish history, and the Jews had moved beyond all of that for more than a thousand years before Muhammad came along and dragged people back to stone age morality.Jews and Christians have not done such things for centuries, while Muslims are doing so now.

  • Leela Kim

    Aisha is special condition for she became the person who recorded the prophet life 24/7 and narrated the stories to other people years after years after the Prophet died. What if, back then Aisha were already old and weak in memories? A huge chance of telling false stories? It’s a special condition, just like Prophet was conditioned as an illiterate man, so that none of y’all freaks (pardon my french) said Prophet Muhammad had written the Quran. So, just because Prophet was illiterate, does that mean all Muslims should be illiterate? Nope, cause Quran instructs you to learn, study, observe, be a very learned people.

    ~ “Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know?’
    ~ It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition.”
    ~ “…But say, ‘O my Lord! Advance me in knowledge.'”
    ~ And these examples We present to the people, but none will understand them except those of knowledge.
    ~ Allah created the heavens and the earth in truth. Indeed in that is a sign for the believers”
    ~ Allah raises of those who believe and those who have been given knowledge many levels.”
    etc..

    And Prophet Muhammed said:
    ~ The excellence of a scholar over another (ordinary) worshipper is like the excellence of the full moon over the rest of the heavenly bodies.
    ~ Whoever reads the Quran and stutters while reading, due to its difficulty, will receive a double reward
    ~ Seeking knowledge is a duty on every Muslim.
    ~ Whoever follows a path to seek knowledge, Allah will make the path to Paradise easy for them

    • Shafiq Islam

      That is the most pathetic excuse for child rape imaginable. There were obviously many children in the community who could remember what happened, and they didn’t need to be molested to do it.

  • Cappy1437

    What a bunch of perverts the Muslims are. That is child rape and they are pedophiles. Any man who does that should be castrated.

  • conan_drum

    Here is a comment I gave on Jihad watch yesterday. I add it here to clarify the situation in Pakistan

    You are factually incorrect RS. Marriage below 16 (female) and 18 male is already illegal in Pakistan. The defeated Bill was to make harsher penalties for those who break the law, which is frequent and to raise
    the age for females to 18 years.
    What is outrageous is that the religious body CII said that it was contrary to the teachings of the Quran, flouting in fact civil law and parliament.
    In other words they believe that because Moh. had a child bride all Muslim men must be allowed the same. So this supports the idea that Quran law must always trump civil law, especially when it affects the rights of females. In fact they care more about the Quran than the rights, health and welfare of young women.
    It also shows that extremism is in the Quran and everything that jihadis do is supported by Quranic interpretation. That terrorism is nothing to do with Islam is nonsense. Our politicians of course are courting the Muslim voter when they appease them by continually making ridiculous statements about jihadism not being

    part of Islam. They are also scared of outbreaks of violence against Muslims. In fact their continual suppression of the facts will more likely lead to such violence than prevent it.

  • hal8196

    To think our Christian “leaders” do not speak out against this is appalling. A culture clash is inevitable.

  • Mohammed was a baby-raping, punk-azz pedophile beeotch. The real reason they demand the right to marry little girls has nothing to do with their unholy beliefs, but everything to do with the fact no real woman can stand to have intercourse with those smelly bastards without puking.

  • Leela Kim

    “And when SHE WAS TWELVE YEARS OLD there was held a council of priests, saying, ‘Behold, Mary has reached the age of twelve years in the temple of the Lord. What then shall we do with her, lest perchance she defile the sanctuary of the Lord?’ And they said to the high priest, ‘You stand by the altar of the Lord; go in and pray concerning her, and whatever the Lord shall manifest to you, that also will we do.’ . . . [A]nd he prayed concerning her, and behold, an angel of the Lord stood by him saying, ‘Zechariah! Zechariah! Go out and assemble the widowers of the people and let them bring each his rod, and to whomsoever the Lord shall show a sign, his wife shall she be. . . . And Joseph [was chosen]. . . . And the priest said to Joseph, ‘You have been chosen by lot to take into your keeping the Virgin of the Lord.’ But Joseph refused, saying, ‘I have children, and I am an old man, and she is a young girl’” (ibid., 8–9).

    “And Annas the scribe came to him [Joseph] . . . and saw that Mary was with child. And he ran away to the priest and said to him, ‘Joseph, whom you did vouch for, has committed a grievous crime.’ And the priest said, ‘How so?’ And he said, ‘He has defiled the virgin whom he received out of the temple of the Lord and has married her by stealth’” (ibid., 15).

    “And the priest said, ‘Mary, why have you done this? And why have you brought your soul low and forgotten the Lord your God?’ . . .AND SHE WEPT BITTERLY SAYING, ‘As the Lord my God lives, I am pure before him, and know not man’” (ibid.).
    ~~

    Didn’t i hear someone scream “OMG,,,!!!!! Child bride”? Or “How could God molest poor young Mary”???

    • Leela Kim

      PS: Unlike Mary, Aisha never felt physiologically devastated. For it was nothing bizarre 1.400 years ago. Heck 100 years ago (1895) Delaware’s age of consent is 7!!

      • Rick Smith

        So if a 9 year old child doesn’t exhibit physiological damage then that makes the sexual molestation OK? Is that your point? Tell us in your mind what kind of man is sexually excited by naked 9 year old children? Can you answer that ,or would that prejudice your apology for Muhammad?

        • Leela Kim

          What kind of man making Delaware’s age of consent in 1895 as low as 7!! Can you answer that ,or would that prejudice your apology for western society?

          • Rick Smith

            Then there must be thousands and thousands of examples of well known old men marrying and having sex with 9 year olds recorded in Delaware’s history. Why don’t you give us a dozen or so examples of this. You know, so we can see that your point has an iota of merit.

        • Leela Kim

          Or using your logic, atheist or agnostic or whoever might say: “How could God molest poor young Mary”???

          • Rick Smith

            How did God molest Mary, dhimmi?

      • Richard

        You still around Leela Kim? I thought you may have done some research on your “prophet” by now and got horrified by his murderous example, but no, you still think he is the perfect example to follow?
        Jesus said, beware of the false prophets. By their fruit you shall know them. The fruits of Muhammad have been nothing but terror, murder, and slavery. The more Islamic the country the worse of a hellhole it is.

    • Rick Smith

      Where does it say in the Bible at what age Mary got married? Why not post your sources for you claims. Or would that require honesty? You wouldn’t be using apocryphal sources, now would you?

      • Leela Kim

        (Against Helvidius: The Perpetual Virginity of Mary 19 [A.D. 383]).

        NIHIL OBSTAT: I have concluded that the materials presented in this work are free of doctrinal or moral errors. Bernadeane Carr, STL, Censor Librorum, August 10, 2004 IMPRIMATUR: In accord with 1983 CIC 827 permission to publish this work is hereby granted.
        +Robert H. Brom, Bishop of San Diego, August 10, 2004
        Catholic . com

        Or you could visit Vatican if you still don’t believe.

        • Rick Smith

          LOL don’t you see the title of the works you’re so dishonestly trying to pass off as evidence of Mary being fucked at an extremely young age. You aren’t very bright, now are you, dhimmi?

          “The perpetual virginity of Mary asserts Mary’s “real and perpetual virginity even in the act of giving birth to Jesus the Son of God made Man”.[2][3] According to the doctrine, Mary was ever-virgin (Greek:ἀειπάρθενος aeiparthenos) for the whole of her life, making Jesus her only biological son, whose conception and birth are held to be miraculous.[2][3]”

          • Leela Kim

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cdb54b07cdb9b762205adb5a9980a7ec7c8295b93a95ed31671af79c9125ad00.jpg

            Yea right you just can’t believe what apocryphal or not. Remember the stoning story which is forgery. Or when Church decided to make a concept as absurd as Trinity?

          • Rick Smith

            I have no idea what this obscure jpeg is nor can I read it, and neither is there a link to it’s source. Of course how could we expect any difference.

          • Rick Smith

            “Yea right you just can’t believe what apocryphal or not”

            Apocryphal means fallacious and not accepted. Unlike, trusted, authentic and reliable sources that speak of the child molester Muhammad’s evil deeds.

          • Leela Kim

            One very remarkable thing about Mary is that she would almost certainly have been 12-14 years old when the angel Gabriel appeared to her. We know this because the common custom at that time was for girls to marry early, at that age. The Bible never gives Mary’s age when she got pregnant or gave birth to Jesus, and that is because when something happened that was common in the culture, nothing was said about it.

            In ancient Israel, girls married in their teens, even early teens. For Mary to be betrothed (engaged) but not yet formally married, yet old enough to have and nurse the Messiah, she would have been 12-14.

            If we are going to paint a picture of the birth of Christ, or cast a woman for a living nativity scene, there is some room for interpretation, but if we want to show Mary as she actually was, having a girl of twelve to fourteen as an actor or model would be the most proper thing to do.

            Luke tells us that Mary was living at Nazareth when Jesus’ conception by the Holy Spirit was announced by the angel, Gabriel (Lk 1:26). Lk 1:5 sets these events during the reign of Herod the Great. Scholars estimate this reign lasted from 37 – 4 B.C. Luke adds that, at that time, Mary was a virgin betrothed to “a man named Joseph of the house of David” (v. 27). The Hebrew Scriptures set the normal age for betrothal at 12 1/2.

            “When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, “the Lord’s brother”). A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place.” Catholic Encyclopedia

            ~~

            Christians might say that she stayed virgin whole her life and it is insignificant if Joseph was an old man or not. But that is not correct, if we read Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 1 verse 25 it clearly says that Joseph had sexual intimacy with Mary after Jesus was born.

            But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus. – Matthew 1:25

            Phil Moore

            “Some Christian traditions see Mary as a ‘perpetual virgin’ who never had sex with Joseph. I find this impossible to reconcile with the straightforward teaching of Matthew 1:25; 12:46; 13:55.” [15]

            The NIV Application Commentary by Matthew J. Wilkins also agrees that the verse in Matthew 1:25 is talking about sexual intercourse taking place after Jesus’s birth.

            “…(1:25). The delicate way of Matthew phrases this expression (lit., ‘he was not knowing her’) was a common way of referring to abstaining from sexual intercourse in both Hebrew and Greek. Sexual abstinence maintained Joseph and Mary’s ritual purification the pregnancy as well as ensured that Jesus was virgin-born. But this is not a hint of continued celibacy after Jesus birth. The word ‘until’ most naturally means that Mary and Joseph had normal marital sexual relations after Jesus birth, from which other children were born (see 12:46, 13:55).”

          • Rick Smith

            “One very remarkable thing about Mary is that she would almost certainly have been 12-14 years old”

            Almost? LOL is that your criteria for reliable. You still haven’t shown us any reliable, accepted by the Church, evidence of Mary’s age a the time of her marriage, and certainly no evidence of her first (if ever) sexual encounter. You present conjecture as your evidence. How dishonest can you be?

          • Rick Smith

            Oh, and I noticed you ignored my earlier question, moslem. I’ll ask you again. Can you tells us what kind of men are sexually excited by naked 9 year old children? Do you think they are normal?

          • Leela Kim

            There are comments from expert. And what are you? Queen of England or something?

          • Rick Smith

            What comments from what experts? Why can’t you be specific? Many people have opinions but if I’m judging, I judge from what is accepted by a group , and not an individual.

          • KimWilde

            I guess the stork brought JESUS brothers and sister ?

          • Rick Smith

            What’s your point? Are you saying Joseph was a child molester?

          • KimWilde

            ? Hey dude take your meds and come back when you make some sense !

          • Rick Smith

            Why don’t you actually try reading what my responses were too, beyond the one post to get the gist of the conversation? When moslems try to fallaciously claim that Joseph and Muhammad were the same by both married young children, and, by posting BS, I call them up on it. Dude!

        • KimWilde

          Where you get this is part of your problem. Please don’t confuse Christianity with catholic gooble de guke.

    • St. Michael Defend Us

      That is not the Bible of Christians. These are Gnostic, or apocryphal texts, as Rick Smith has commented. These are NOT part of the Christian belief, but are often presented to muslims as if they ARE, further confusing muslims and misinforming them about Christianity. Next, you will be quoting the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” as proof of some Jewish skullduggery.
      You copy and paste, including the (ibid.) but do not indicate your original source from where you did the copying.

    • KimWilde

      Where did you make this allay(allah) poo up from ? Stop reading moslum mysteries and read a BIBLE.

  • Metis

    a nine year old forced to give birth could certainly die or sustain permanent injuries. This practice of early marriage and all the other customs that denigrate and persecute women and girls – these are the things I can’t accept about Islamic tradition. Admittedly I’m not a religionist, but these seemingly Islamic practices are simply wrong. Wrong and repulsive. I cannot respect any society that does not treat its female members as equals.

  • Karl59

    Of course it failed in Pakistan
    After all, the prophet Muhammad did it
    What do you really expect?

  • joe1429

    These poor girls, havent got a chance. It is usually a 50 or 60 yo man marrying these 10yo girls. They should not be in the community of nations, with these practices.How can we overlook iran marrying off their little kids?? What a perverted cult

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