VIDEO Hannity: Pamela Geller vs Imam Aslam Abdullah

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Here is the video where I go one-on-one with Imam Aslam Abdullah, Islamic Society of of Nevada, on Muhammad, sharia law, and the Qur’an.

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BT
BT
8 years ago

I LOVE this lady she is my HERO!! GO PAM tell those sons a bitches !!

Maureen Donnelly
Maureen Donnelly
8 years ago

I really don’t know how they can debate forget about even justify the actions resulting from the text of the koran . in the beginning of the book its peaceful and then towards the end to kill everyone he said it was because the persercution of the musulim but the koran never identifys who and what happen (of all the woes they faced ) the koran talks about wars without an outsider provoking it . It says just do it. Its so clear cut pardon the punn but it gives details on how and who to kill. How in hell could a (peaceful musilum) say the koran is taken out of context its so blunt. No parables no warm and fuzzys. Why do they keep on trying to debate you. They lost before they even said their first word

pdxnag
pdxnag
8 years ago

They only need to humor the President, who is importing Communities of Jihadis as fast as he can.

WTH
WTH
8 years ago

Debate? The Muslim barely got two words out of his mouth. I wish Vannity would allow the guest to complete a sentence whether we agree with him or not.

PG, “…violence in the New Testament…”? Chapter? Verse?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago

Islam has been at war from the beginning. The ME used to have many different and advanced cultures. Muslims destroyed and conquered them all if not for the Crusaders stopping them we would all be living in the 7th century under sharia and we all know what that means for women. Islam grew by the sword, convert or die, leave and die. All the Christians beheaded crucified etc. by ISIS were given the option to convert but chose God over satan as would I. 275,000,000 slaughtered in the 1400 year history of islam chose God over allah/satan.

James McSorley
James McSorley
8 years ago

THANK YOU PAM…..Please keep spreading the truth…THESE PHONIES HATE THE TRUTH…

elcap231@bigpond.com
8 years ago

That wasn’t a debate, that was a KO in the first round.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago

Not really much of a discussion there, 5minutes and 3 of it filler?
I am glad ole Sean zannity continues to have Ms. Pamela on to comment etc.
but wtf Sean ,,,show the picture or shut up, we can talk about it for days but until you show it the whole point is mute, the old saying a picture is worth a thousand words, well the artwork that is being blanked out says the whole war so simply.
and as a side note I watched another interview with that ahem choderdy who elaborated that muHAMmad is just the starting point, under their sheria “law” you aren’t “allowed” to draw anything with a soul??? like a bird or dog or any person, so good luck once you summit once…………….fools

Sheehan
Sheehan
8 years ago

this imam was actually quite progressive, he condemned the attack on pam geller and prayed for her safety. people like these need to given more voices instead of mullas like anjem choudary.

Jon Sobieski
Jon Sobieski
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

To me it is a front. What do you expect him to say? He believes the Choudray strategy ‘to tell it like it is’ is wrong. It scares the infidels and impedes the islamisation. Even if he did believe what he said truly, he wouldn’t be a muslim. It’s just the way it is. Lying is just embedded in the brain of muslims. These guys bang their heads 5 times a day, trashing infidels and Jews specifically in their prayers. Come on.

Steve Smith
Steve Smith
8 years ago
Reply to  Jon Sobieski

A true, honest to goodness, moderate Muslim is an, apostate.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Steve Smith

A True Muslim is a true Muslims

Steve Smith
Steve Smith
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

then not a moderate.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Right on. Check out ISIS no truer muslims will you find. They follow the quran and mohammad to the letter.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

Except the part where he wishes her safety in the context of by the one who gives life and takes it away….blanking out who he is referring to….sooo “Allah” I’m guessing so…..
by the ideology that damns you to death, I pray he protects you from the death his followers have prescribed for you by doing my will?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

Thereis only one God, the God of all who is in control. You may call him whatever in your language, but he is only one. He gives life and death to all not just to Muslims but to everyone.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I call them all mystics. Existence exist
therefore
the um real ,,, can not exist,
believe whatever you want, some religions have many gods, are you saying yours is right and theirs is wrong ,,,how arrogant,
and just like all religions, threaten death and pain.
morality of death.
enjoy it my friend

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  atl slayer

Muslims and Islam recognizes the existence of all religions and the Quran categorically states that Muslims should not ridicule or humiliate the god or gods of others.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Yea well my freedom recognizes my right to ridicule all of those slaves who believe in such nonsense,

any “god” I have the power to humiliate isn’t much of a god

and I don’t care what any book says, o the book tells me to do something,,,
really?

go on tell me more of how weak minded the mental slaves of the world are……..

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

LOL, what about polytheists? I seem to remember something about a Quranic command to slaughter polytheists. That doesn’t sound very respectful.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

They say Christians are polytheists because
they believe in the Holy Trinity. That’s why, for
example, they beheaded the Ethiopian and
Egyptian Christians on the beach in Libya.
These people refused to accept Satan who
has been depicted since time immemorial with
the crescent moon and star (fallen from heaven)
symbol..sorry…I meant ‘Allah’.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

That isn’t saying much.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Amputation of limbs is an allegorical reference. The Quran says create conditions that would prevent the hand from stealing. So when the Quran says cut the hands of a thief, it does not say decapitate his hand, it says ensure that he has resources for living that would prevent him from committing theft.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Aslam Abdullah – “Amputation of limbs is an allegorical reference.” How stupid does he think we are?!!

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Really, considering amputation of limbs is actually a punishment being meted out in various izlamic thugocracies across the globe today.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

I guess the blood that spurts out of the amputated
limbs and the agony felt by the victims is just
“allegoric” too.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

God said to Satan in Genesis 3:15
And I will put enimity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed and he will bruise you on the head and you shall bruise him on the heel.
The enimity spoken about here was when Christ died on the cross for the sins of mankind. Give your life to Christ sir and experience the love of God like you’ve never before experienced!!!

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Nice!!!

Fred Smith
Fred Smith
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

taquiya plain and simple

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

We do not lie.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Your holy prophet himself encouraged one of his followers to lie in order to assassinate a Jew who had dared criticise him.

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Mohammad was a nutjob. He had flying horses and little evil fairies chasing him in his cave hideout. The guy was bonkers!!

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

You’re not honest with yourself, so why would
you be honest with us ‘infidels’?

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

How is that possible when the entire coranic book is based on lies, deception partial truths, death and destruction! Not exactly the kind of god I want to worship!

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Horse hockey! All religions are lies about supernatural nonsense….except, of course, for Boto, the pink dolphin God of the Upper Peruvian Amazon……all other Gods are false dolphins! Boto!!!

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Please stop referring to a psychopath as a prophet.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Fred Smith

But are they not told that there is no lie if it is for the good of the cult and it isn’t done to another member of the cult?
Also explain the reasoning behind marriage to a 6 year old
and sex at 9.
Or having visions direct from Big Al that just happen to suit your own crude instincts. (Pigs got off lucky because they must have squealed on the Dirty HoMo.
Such as it is OK to have sex with an animal but the meat can not be used in your own enclave,why risk giving an STD to your neighbours if they are all fellow cult members?

No to SHARIA
No to SHARIA
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

This Iman cannot bring himself to tell the truth. Atleast Choudery tells it like it is. They hate the the unbelievers. Even in the Koran it says that you should lie and deceit where muslims is not in control. Everything he say I will take it with pinch of salt.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  No to SHARIA

No The Quran does not say that you should lie or deceit.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

How so? Your Allah is the greatest of all decievers! Correct? So how can it be since you pray to him and Mo your prophet and to mecca and to the black stone and the moon five timres a day that there would be any truth coming out of your sick, twisted, diseased decieved brain of yours?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

Allah is the best planner.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

…of genocides.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Christians planned genocide or holocaust of Jews in Germany. Serbians Orthodox Christians planned genocide of Muslims

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Were Nazis Christians? Funnily enough German Christians were sent to concentration camps along w/Jews in Nazi Germany.
Don’t bother mentioning Serbia, we know your fellow izlamic-nazi brethren were also engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide there as well (e.g. Kosovo).

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The Qu’ran was written by Porky Pig, the One True Pig.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  No to SHARIA

Every word is the truth the exact way he was ordered to tell it as.
Or a great example of a moderate talking to an audience.
taquiya

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

No, Sir I have been speaking about violence for the last 40 years. Violence is anti-divine. Lynching of blacks is as bad as lynching of those who are apostates. Everyone of us has a right to live our life according to our belief system.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Islam allows people to bear arms in self defense. If anyone attacks me and tries to kill me I have every right to defend myself. This is what the Quran said that if you are attacked and assaulted by armed enemies and they are our to annihilate you. Stand up and fight and fight valiantly. Islam does not Muslims to take up arams against those who are critical of Islam or who make fun of Islam or who ridicule Islam. Pamela and Spencer have every right to insult us and ridicule us. Life is sacred and it must be defended.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

No, every human life is sacred.

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Want some more Kool-Aid Asslam?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Except it seems in islam.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

IS is an evil that must be rooted out.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

But, ISIS has been around, in one form or another, since the days of mohammed.
And, why has there been an ongoing Holy war between Sunnis and Shi’ites?
Are you Sunni?

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

He may be against IS, but only because the top
Muslim ‘scholars’ decree that the HQ of the
Caliphate should be in Turkey, and not Iraq
or Syria. Yet more deceit.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Bukhari is not the source of Islam, the Quran is. There is no reference to Jews here. Muslims fought back when they were attacked by their enemies. They did not initiate the aggression. The very fact that Prophet Muhammad had to migrate to Madinah from his birth place speaks of the level of persecution. The hadith about participation in jihad could also mean that Muslims have to stand up for justice and peace. The fight until every one worships Allah is simply showing the resolve of a man to his ideas. He is saying I would continue to struggle unless I communicate my message to all.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Resolve?
You mean to force his religion down others throats, even though, he said earlier, that there is no compulsion in religion.
Which is true?
From which side of his mouth was he speaking, and on which day?
It seems that even a believer such as yourself, is also confused.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I’d like to see you dismiss the ahadith publicly in any izlamic state.

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Read my articles on Ahadith.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The actual translation of the verse is as follows:
When you are engaged in a war for justice make sure that you know who your friends and enemies are. If anyone sends you an offer of peace do not say to him “you are not sincere in your offer” and wage war against him. By this way you may get some spoils of war but do not forget that whatever you will get by obeying Allah’s Laws will be much more. You used to look for such excuses in the pre-Islam period. Allah has shown you the right path. You should therefore probe carefully before taking a decision. Allah is well-aware of what you do. It is a verse that promotes peace.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

So, according to this comment, you admit, that Islam is all about war.
Jesus preached life, peace and love, where as mohammed preached war and resulting death.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Muslims are being advised to fight back against those who are imposing wars on them.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

And Jesus advised Christians to turn the other cheek.
Do you see why the two cannot exist together?
Someone, like Pamela, makes fun of some perverted dude, who preached war, and you guys declare a defensive war against her, as she caused you to be offended.
This is exactly what you said above.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The fight for Allah is the fight for justice and peace and against oppression. It is like war of independence of this country.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

But since you consider the so called unbelievers oppressive then you are consistently at war with us. Islam is the only religion in the world that is taught that other beliefs or faiths displayed publically is oppressive to Muslims! Therefore in order to quench the other oppressive faiths they must be ruled over by Muslims and eventually eliminated altogether. This has been your trademark since it has been in existence!!! It will not change until you rewrite you book the coran!!

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

It means if you are in a war, fight bravely and make sure that those who pose threats to your survival are smoked out. But if they reconcile for peace then give peace a chance.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

It is again in the context of a war and it is being suggested that if you are under attack fight bravely and ensure that the enemies are weakened not repeat their aggression again. It is like saying that we would eliminate Al Qaeda so that it no more poses a threat to America.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

It is again in the context of a war. If you are attacked, fight back. If they surrender and willing to compensate for the losses people incurred in war, cease hostility.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

My friend you are either deceived or you are trying
to deceive. I wouldn’t generalise about all Muslims
but I have no time for jihadi apologists either. Only
thing that interests me is the truth. John 8:32 “the
truth will set you free”. How true. Again, it’s people
like this guy I completely trust. He should know as
he was brought up in the Islamic faith :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7REK98SJG8

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

No fighting is not divinely mandated. Youa re asked to fight only when you are attacked.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Your belief system commands to kill the infidel. Just as a side note muslims sold Africa into slavery killed anywhere from 120 to 180 million. Mohammad hated Africans, called them raisin heads and when the muslims took slaves for themselves they castrated the men and walked them across the desert 90% did not make it, they were the lucky ones. They the muslims needed eunuchs to help build their palaces and to guard their sex slaves: many were captured European females. Also as a side note the first war America fought was against muslim slavers, barbary pirates. The west stopped slavery, they knew it was wrong. No such revelation in islam they still support slavery because mohammad did. Hench still around 30 million slaves in Africa and let’s not forget ISIS.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

And meanwhile you can see the word bubble , “Damn idiots missed again.”
because all his answers were double talk or so vague they were meaningless.
He should have been asked to repeat the quotes from memory see if he has read the kurunn.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Sheehan

More voice? Nah. To think that he represents true Islam is a joke. Yea let’s fool the masses until we are all convinced that Islam is a peaceful religion and you wait and see. Then all of a sudden the tables will be turned when they have finally caught us off guard. Ain’t gonna happen!!

MariaEsther
MariaEsther
8 years ago

he might be lying to us

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  MariaEsther

those who believe in God and try to live their life according to His ideals do not lie.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

UhHuh?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I and you would not judge who is a liar and who is not.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

R U sure your name isn’t Al? As in Al Taqiyya?

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

That is why you should leave islam turn to God instead. In islam lying is what muslims do.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  MariaEsther

“Might be”?!!

Americanpatriot2014
Americanpatriot2014
8 years ago

it’s time for all Americans to come together, Stop the race baiting, the hating of police, the “white privilege” crap, and worst of all the hating of this country. We have a larger enemy looming. People, we live in AMERICA……we have a country like NO OTHER yet we are being baited into destroying it by our OWN ADMINISTRATION! STOP. look around you – you are FREE you have freedoms afforded to no other people in other countries. Let’s stop this fighting and unite to fight the enemy that wants all of us dead. We understand Islam all too well. We understand the strategy to make America a muslim country now—World domination is the goal of the radical muslims and they use any and every trick to get us to stay divided……divided we fail. UNITED WE STAND.

atl slayer
atl slayer
8 years ago

GD right!
unite as individuals who want personal individual freedom, not as a group hoping someone else will do the dirty work for us.
stay safe
high five for freedom 🙂

sinkiller
sinkiller
8 years ago

Sorry to break this news to you. But the hub is broken. All of the spokes are scattered now. Time to build a new wheel.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  sinkiller

Obama sure promised change, and many gladly followed him down this road to destruction of a strong America.

sinkiller
sinkiller
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

yes, he did. But because I am a optimist I see the years ahead as a great opportunity to restore America.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  sinkiller

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

sinkiller
sinkiller
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

People do not realize that the house has already fallen.

Nina
Nina
8 years ago

Sounds like a plan!

Dennis
Dennis
8 years ago

I am writing my commentary after reviewing some of the many other commentaries herein in response to what is becoming a national debate. My sense is that most of the commentators see the Islamic culture to be at war with everything we consider special about America. While I too would have liked to hear the debate open to more commentary by the Imam, I doubt that he could have convinced many of us that his culture, based on its present belief system and the teachings contained within this belief system, can live peacefully alongside the things we as American’s see as the culture of this great country of ours. Immigrants have been coming to our so-called new world for hundreds of years. These immigrants all have brought their own culture with them. They became aware of the fact that the American system was much more palatable then what they experienced elsewhere, and they ASSIMILATED into this great country choosing to tolerate and treat all of their neighbors as they would expect to be treated themselves. America has experienced many a bump in the road between different cultures, but, in the main, we have created a great society and we essentially tolerate and live harmoniously amongst ourselves. Islam does not provide such simple rights to its followers, and I am afraid that these people cannot assimilate into our society as their culture presently is taught and followed here and throughout this world. They, like those crazies in Nazism and Communism did in the twentieth century, have declared war on all of us non-believers of Islam, and I believe that unless we defend our selves vigorously, we are in serious danger. That seems to me to be the bottom line. Claiming to be peaceful, while teaching Jihadist conduct is so abhorrent, that I cannot see how these people of their culture can ever be comfortable here and accept what America is all about. If that IS the case, I suggest that we allow these people to leave this country and return to their own world where they can conduct themselves freely as their culture dictates to them.

Magnus Atheos
Magnus Atheos
8 years ago

I really dislike hosts like Hannity. Constantly cutting people off when they are
trying to answer the questions you ask only serves to discredit yourself and
annoy the hell out of the audience who genuinely want to hear the answer so they can form their own opinion. Let the Imam answer the questions. As an example, the more you listen to Anjem Choudary speak, the more his words expose Islam. Buy cutting Anjem off and not letting him speak, you essentially sensor him. Same thing here. Let the Imam speak. Islam’s true colors will show themselves. Interviews like this one only fuel the left.

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

Agreed mostly, but sometimes it seems like its the Choudary show and Hannity is the fumbling guest. I’ve noticed Choudary getting bolder about inflicting death and some scum will be emboldened by that.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

Choudary is everything against Islam stands for.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Choudary says that YOU don’t represent the real Islam.
Who are we to believe?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

100%
He represents, the true “beauty” of Islam.
Just like that perverted prophet, who by the way, re-invented his career, by stealing Jewish lands in Medina.
Been all downhill for us ever since with anti-Semitic Islam
God bless

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Well, those who haver been killing Jews and persecuting them happen to be Christians. Read the Epistles to Hebrews and antisemitism is right there.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Don’t think for a minute that I give them a pass either.
But, when I read Sura 98:6 that clearly calls me the “worst of creatures” am I to believe, that you love me for being a Jew?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

This is what 98: 6 says

However, the Ahlul-kitab (Jews and Christians) adopted divergent ways in this regard. Some accepted it, while others rejected it; and the mushrikeen (idolators) have the same attitude. The end result for all those who have refused to accept the truthfulness of the (Divine) System would be awful
destruction in which everything would be reduced to ashes; and they would abide therein (for ever). (This state of affairs would continue even after death.) Such is the life of the worst of creatures. It simply means those who disregard the truth and defy every norm of justice are the worst of the people.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

No, 98:6 states, that those who reject islam, among the Jews and Christians, People of the Book,, will be in the fires of hell, to live there forever–They are the worst of creatures.
This is clearly a curse by the writer of the Koran upon me, as I reject Islam, and am a person of the Book, a Jew.
That’s what’s written in the Koran

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Who is a repackaged form of Baal

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

In Revelation, Satan gathers his armies against
Jerusalem. Who would follow Satan knowing God
would kick his arse? What creed do we know of
that wants to annihilate the Jewish people?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Not only did the SOB’s steal our land in Medina, they also tried to steal Moshe Rabeinu.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

R U referring to Maimonides?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Nah, kind of an inside joke to wildjew, a fellow Jew.
Explanation:
mohammed stole Jewish lands in Medina, after he slaughtered all of the Jewish tribes there, and today, Muslims accuse we Jews of stealing their lands in Israel.
As if that’s not bad enough, mohammed also tried to steal Moses from us, and we call Moses one of our great Rabbis (Rabeinu, “our Rabbi” in Hebrew written in English)
I hope this was clear enough.
Cheers

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I see, thank you for the explanation. Shouldn’t any future and present land swap discussions w/the Arabs residing in Gaza include a discussion of the dispensation of the lands stolen from the Jewish tribes of Saudi Arabia by Arabs?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

How about the lands and riches of the 900,000 Jews, who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim lands post War of Independence and 6 Day War?
Those Sephardic Jews, were for the most part, very well established, educated professionals.
My first wife’s Mother’s family, was forced out of Yemen, and they WALKED overland from Yemen through the Saudi Arabian peninsula to Israel.
The march took 2 1/2 years, and 2 of her siblings died on the march.
My second, and current wife’s family, was thrown out of Morocco, after the 6 Day War.
Thank God that there was Israel, as a refuge, to absorb and save both of their families.
And of course, the Arabs want justice for their losses in their various wars against the Jews in Israel.
I hope that you can see through Aslam Abdullah’s comment here, that all it takes for Muslims to go to war, is the perception of injustice, be it right or be it wrong, to declare war on the infidel, and then all the violent passages of the Koran, supersede the non-violent ones.
You see. he comes off as a man of peace, the Meccan Koran, until you reject him, or cause him offense, or some sort of injustice, and then he becomes the Medina Koran.
Therefore, Aslam truly believes that he is a man of peace, preaches peace and acceptance, until you cross him, and then off comes the gloves, and you will get what you deserve.
And he believes that he has the right to act in such way, as it’s always in defence.
An example is his prophet mohammed, who in Aslam’s mind, was only acting in defence, when he attacked and slaughtered his way across the Arabian peninsula.

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Jews have much right to live as a people as Palestinians or anyone else. God is not a real estate broker. Justice is the essence of human existence and whenever anyone is denied justice, we must stand up. Jews should be the first to stand for the Palestinians rights to live as people.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

When you look at the fact, that Israel, sits on 0.5% of all the Middle East lands, and Islam sits on 99.5% of all the Middle East lands, it becomes obvious, that we have a minority, the Jews, that are in for a fight for their survival against Islam’s perceived injustice.
Justice for you, is of course to your liking and approval.
Justice is a term that you use, almost comically.
A question for you, do you oppose violent jihad, and do you oppose Sharia law in any form in the West?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The only way forward is to speak to each other and dialogue for the dignity of both. Palestinians and Jews have equal rights. Jews are not superior or special people nor the Palestinians are better. Justice for me is the justice for all and that justice is created and is not imposed. I am opposed to violence in any form or shape. There is no such thing called sharia law. You oppose or support what is in existence. What you consider sharia laws are juristic laws that evolved over a period of time and none of those laws are binding. The same way todays Christian would not pass a law that would say the Jews are not allowed to live in Milwaukee or not allowed to enter a restaurant in New York. There are no sharia laws because Sharia simply means, a path that leads to a common source of water for all. This path is open to all and no one can impose their verdict on people. People have a right to walk on the path or not walk. This path leads to peace and is established on the concept of dignity and justice. Any law created in the name of Islam has to ensure justice, freedom, and security to all and not just to Muslims. Anyone who defies that defies God and Islam.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Then, you have no problem with men marrying men, or women marrying women?
Would you come to Toronto next year, and be the Grand Marshal in Toronto’s Gay Pride Parade, or Tel Aviv’s Gay Pride Parade?
Or, better yet, as seeing, that you have a connection with Las Vegas, would you marry a gay Muslim couple?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

If I stand for your right to be a gay, it does not mean I have to be a gay or join their club. I have no problem if a man or a woman marries the person of their gender. I would not approve it. But would that mean that I persecute them or indict them and curse them, no I would not do that. I believe in a system of monogamy between a man and a woman. I do not believe in polygamy or marriage in the same gender. I would not God or faith to be used to persecute gays. No I would join either of the parade because i do not believe in that value system. I would be a hypocrite if I conduct a wedding of such couple because I do not personally believe in that Islam does not require a clergy to conduct marriages. Two individuals in the presence of witnesses can declare them husband and wie.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Where your problem exists, that with your views, you can easily find your way in the 57 member state of the OIC, and they should be condemned in our pluralistic, rights laden, democratic countries.
No exceptions for Muslims.
We do everything for ALL, or none.
It’s like prayer rooms for Muslims in the public school system.
If we have prayer rooms for Muslims, then we also have to accommodate Rastafarians, for example, to enjoy their method of worship to their god, as they see fit.
I know of a lot of teenagers, who would be converting to Rastafarianism, just to enjoy their sacrament on school property.
We do it for ALL, or none.
Of course, you favour allowing Rastafarians to enjoy smoking marijuana at school, don’t you?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I am not infavor of using public money to favor any religious or ethnic community.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Do you receive any “public” money, or any “foreign” money for your Islamic centre?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Can’t Muslims be satisfied with ONLY 99.5% of all the Middle East?
Do they really need the other 0.5% that the Israelis control, for their Jewish State?
Letting a small minority live in peace, is unjust?
And you talk of justice.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The conflict in the Middle East is not about who owns what percentage, but justice and fairness. Palestiians have been uprooted by the European Jews under the declaration of a colonial government. They state of Israel is built on injustice. It is an apartheid state.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Israel is far from an apartheid state, unlike most of the Islamic countries around the world.
This myth has been debunked 1000’s of times, just google the subject..
Justice Salim Joubran, an Arab, of the Israeli Supreme Court, says this apartheid is a bunch of nonsense
Justice obviously stands on the Israeli side, as proven by the steadfastness of the American people who by a vast majority back Israel.
But, we return again to your interpretation of justice, which is, if it’s in your favour all is just, and if not, then that is a basis for jihad and war.
I totally understand you Aslem.
You have actually reaffirmed my thoughts on why Islam should be separated from the West.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Oh, the hypocrisy of aslam abdullah.
Loves his life in “colonial” America, yet condemns others for the same thing.
You may try to come off as some man of God, but in reality you are just another Muslim hypocrite running off his mouth about justice.
Is there a Muslim alive who really understands justice?
Yes, the ones who left Islam, of course with a Sharia commanded death sentence.
mohammed clearly said, “kill anyone who leaves Islam”

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Well, Muhammad was a hypocrite, so Aslam Abdullah is simply imitating his false prophet.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

There is no such thing as “Palestinians” because they are an invented peoples. Even Hamas officials and “Palestinians” admit it:

In March 1977, Zahir Muhsein, an executive member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), said in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw:

“The ‘Palestinian people’ does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel.”

On March 23, 2012, aired on Al-Hekma TV, Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad said:

Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [“Egyptian”]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis.

Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims.”

Therefore it becomes clear that the only reason “Palestinians” were invented was because the Muslim world could not stand to see Jews coming out under dhimmitude. I guarantee 100% that (God forbid) if every non-Muslim person in Israel converted to Islam today, today would be the end of Muslim talk about “Palestinians” and land. The whole issue is religious, NOT about land itself. The whole issue is that Islam teaches Jews are to be subjugated and wiped out, which is why “Palestinian” Muslims are obsessed with pushing Jews into the sea and claiming all of Israel is “Palestine”.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Mecca is built on injustice. It is an apartheid state. While 20% of Israeli population is Muslim, ALL NON-MUSLIMS are FORBIDDEN from even entering Mecca with racist, discriminatory signs posted all around un-holy Mecca FORBIDDING ENTRY to all non-Muslims because we are considered filthy / najisun by Islam due to filthy teaching of ayat like Sura 98:6, 8:55, 5:60, and especially Sura 9:28.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

According to “son of Hamas” Mosab Hassan
Yousef, Hamas’ aim is not only the destruction
of the state of Israel but also that of every other
civilisation which has not yet been conquered and
destroyed by Islam.
It amazes me (well, I guess it shouldn’t) that left-wing
pro-Hamas, anti-Israel bubbleheads believe that
they’re somehow more informed than people
like him. Is there any beginning to their knowledge?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

The land theft issue actually began with mohammed stealing Jewish lands in Medina, after he slaughtered the Jewish tribes there.
Proof that he was a thief and mass murderer.
mohammed should be recognized as one of the worst criminals in the history of man.
Not bad enough, that the 54 year old creep, has sex with a defenceless 9 year old, that he married when she was only 6.
One of the most disgusting men in history

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

He was a cancer on life as is his legacy.
Many terrible things have occurred in
history, but his existence is the greatest
tragedy to befall the human race.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

There are a lot of people in this world, that would be better off without islam and mohammed.
How many will go to sleep tonight, living in fear from islam that was brought to us by mohammed, the pedophile, thief, liar, and mass murderer?
Oh what a wonderful world it would be!!!!

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I’ve exhausted myself trying to reason with
Aslam Abdullah. Perhaps in other circumstances
it might work, but he can’t allow himself to
see the truth because this is also his career.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Religious business as usual.
Poor dude couldn’t make a normal living, so he works as a “huckster” selling the myth about mohammed the pervert.
Worse yet, in some of his comments, he makes the usual disparaging comments about the US.
This leads me to ask the question, “that if the US is so bad, why do you guys want to live here”

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I wish we could bring all the apostates and
religious minorities to the West in exchange
for the worshippers of Muhammad (and their
disgusting left-wing enablers) here who could be
dropped off in Iraq and Syria. That would be
ideal for everyone concerned.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

There has been a previous precedent to back your ideas.
That was how Pakistan came into being.
A swap of people, of course to appease the Muslims.
The biggest mistake made in Iraq and Afghanistan, was to attempt to convert the Muslim hordes to democracy, instead of protecting the vulnerable non-Muslim minorities, apostates, and objectors to Islam.
Who is paying the price BIG time today for this mistake?
The vulnerable non-Muslim minorities, apostates and objectors to islam.
Sad, just so sad.
Worse yet, the US can and should lead putting an end to it.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

You’re right, but it’ll never happen under the
current administration. Hopefully, America will
elect the right person next year. I just hope it
isn’t Hillary Clinton.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Oddly, while living in Israel, in Bill Clinton’s days, I felt safe and protected by the US, even to the point of supporting the Oslo Accords.
Little did I know, that Israel was making it’s biggest mistake ever, by letting Arafat and the PLO return to Israel.
My Dentist, an East Jerusalem Muslim, predicted at the time, the exact situation that we see in Israel today.
But, i don’t blame all that on Clinton, who I believe was sincere in his attempts at a just peace.
Obama, on the other hand, wants to crush the Jews of Israel.
Perhaps Hillary would be more like Bill.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I can’t comment on Bill, because I don’t know
enough about him, but there’s Hillary Clinton’s
close friendship with Huma Abedin whose family
are all Muslim Brotherhood. Their aim to create
chaos in the Middle East and to enable Turkey
to step in and reclaim the Caliphate has been
helped enormously by the “naivety” of Obama
and Clinton. She’s also in cahoots with people
like Ahmet Davotuglu and the OIC who want to
stifle free speech and criminalise “hateful”
(truthful) speech about Islam.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Of course, those that want to stifle “hateful” speech against Islam, want this to be about all religions.
I would like to see this done, as it would cause Islam to be banned, as the Koran is all about hate for all religions outside of Islam.
And, of course any speech against the “Jewish” State of Israel would also be banned and criminalized.
60% of the Koran is about hate for the non-believers.
I say, “bring it on”
It’s time to put the Koran and Islam on trial.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

And, why should the Jews be the first to stand up for the Palestinian rights, and not the other way around?
Why don’t Muslims worldwide, stand up for the Jews to live in Israel?
Haven’t Muslims persecuted Jews enough worldwide?
It wasn’t the Jews who ran Muslims out of Muslim lands post Independence and 6 Day wars, it was Muslims.
Many Muslims, like Basch Fastin, who have found the light, and left Islam, reveal that their Muslim families, on a daily basis, cursed the Jews, and as part of your Friday prayers, you ask allah to give you victory over the Jews.
As your view of justice is skewed, of course, you demand that the Jews stand for Pal rights, and not the other way around.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Because they are the ones who claim that are the standard bearers of justice. In fact both should respect each other.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Awe so you are holding the minority Jews to a higher standard, than you peace loving brothers.
That’s kind of racist, holding your fellow Muslims to a lower standard.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

And, God is THE real estate broker.
All things happen in God’s world for a reason, so, He is THE real “real estate broker”

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

No God did ask whites to invade the USA to take the lands of Indians. Spanish and English rulers did. God is not in the business of real estate.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Now, you speak for God.
Wow mate, you sure do have a high opinion of yourself, if you think that you speak for God.
You remind me of another who was a camel herder, proven pedophile, thieving, lying , mass murderer, named mohammed, who also thought that he spoke for God.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

It’s always interesting to note the similarities between the formation of the modern state of Israel and the modern state of India. In both cases, mass ethnic cleansing of Hindus and Jews took place initiated by muslims, except in the case of the Hindus it also took the form of genocides (in ’48’ and in the 1970’s in Bangladesh). What do the modern states of Israel and India also have in common? 67 years of unending izlamic terrorism.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Sorry.

Nina
Nina
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

How in their wildest smoke-filled delusions could they ever think they could do THAT?

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

According to the Qur’an, Allah is the “best of deceivers” (3:54; 8:30). – just like our friend Aslam Abdullah

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

I initially thought that he may be deluded, but his
priority is the whitewashing and propagation of
Islam. The likes of Choudary’s insane disciples
want to butcher you, but Aslam Abdullah wants
to lull you into a false sense of security till then.
Or, in reply to your question, an emphatic yes!

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

The Ahmadiyyas are a tiny minority in Islam.
Because they have abolished the concept of
Jihad and are patriotic citizens they are heavily
persecuted by other Muslims. Leftists will pull
an Ahmadiyya from somewhere so as to promote

Islam as a peaceful religion. Just another form
of deceit.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

The one Nobel Prize winner in Pakistan was an Ahmaddiyya. His tombstone formerly read something like “First Muslim to Win the Nobel Prize”, but muslims in Pakistan protested that he wasn’t a muslim (because he was Ahmadiyya) and so the word muslim was stricken from this tombstone so now it says something like “First to Win the Noble Prize.”

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

That famous bastion of progress and human
rights, Pakistan! God help the Ahmaddiyas and
the Christians there, they need it.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Do you really think that he would give his real opinions here?
I think not.

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Yes, this is my opinion and I would express it loudly.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Thanks, from reading your comments here, you gave me insight to what you guys really think.
Justice and offence, are in the eyes of the beholder, and when it comes to you, it gives you the right to go ballistic on the offenders.
I commented here to another, that you are a man who preaches peace, the Meccan Koran, just like mo did, but if someone gives offence to you, you become the Medina Koran, just like mo did, and then it is never good for the infidel.
For me, islam is all about supremacy, submission, hate and hostility.
And my friend, this is from an Israeli Jew, who once believed that Islam is a religion of peace, and actually vigorously defended Islam.
The best solution to living in peace with Islam, is to separate, Muslims over there, and Westerners over here.
By the way, which stream of Islam do you follow?
Cheers and God bless

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I do not follow any sect. I follow the divine call for justice and peace. Peace is the essence of religions, all religions, even though all the prophets and messengers have to go through a cycle of violence in order to establish the concept of peace. Jews persecuted Christians and Christians did the same to Jews..If the prophets were engaged in wars, they were engaged to counter enemies who were out to destroy them. You may have your opinion about Islam and Muslims and you have every right to have them. Similarly, I also have a right to express what I believe. I am not calling you names for what you believe and I expect the same courtesy and decency.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Name calling?
Where have I called you names?
You must have me confused with some others here.
All men who act respectfully, deserve my respect, and rarely will I go off on someone here, who I suspect is trolling.
I don’t feed trolls.
“I follow the divine call for justice and peace”
And according to which source is this “divine” call?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Well, I am stating that as a principle. Justice according to only source of authority and in my view that is God, some call it G-d, some Diios, some ishwar and some Allah. The linguistic differences do not reduce the nature and majesty of God. Justice means, justice for all not just for Jews or Christians or Hindus or Muslims or blacks and or whites. Christians were unfair to blacks and all other religious groups in the past through colonization but God or Jesus cannot be blamed for that. Jesus did not ask Christians to name the ship that carried African slaves as Jesus. He would have opposed slavery and stood for the freedom

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Well, we both agree that God is God.
And we both agree that there is a creator of this great universe of ours.
So, where do you find the source and definition of this “divine” call for justice?
Man being man, can see the same subject in many ways.
When there is a dispute, which is the source for a judicial solution or verdict?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The source is all the religious scriptures of the world that promote the ideas of a universal, undefined and un describable God. Your own conscious would lead you to that. Your sense of humanity and justice would lead you to that.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

I have a tee time in about an hour, have to go, but I thank you for answering, and being brave enough to answer my points here on this forum.
You should do more of it.
I will look for you another time.
Cheers and God bless

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Well, I do not deceive. I express my faith. The word means planner not deceiver. They plan and Allah plans and Allah is the best of all planners.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago

‘Allah’ is a mere continuation of the Babylonian
‘Bel’ mentioned in the Bible, whose worship
is forbidden. Aslam, you’ve been deceived.
I know you’ll have felt nothing when praying
to him.
Pray to the God of the Bible who gave his only
begotten son in Jesus Christ. You don’t have
to take my word for it, just ask him to show you
the way. You will get your reply.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

I pray to God the one who existed before the Bible and who would exist for eternity. Join me in praying to the same God. May God bless you and have His mercy upon you.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

If you do not acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God then you do not know the Father either as it is written in John 8:19 and John 17:3 and John 14:7.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I agree that there’s only one God, and I hope you
find your way to him. If I ask a Muslim who is
Allah, they’ll just say that Allah means God.
So, if I say “OK, let’s just say that there’s no
God but God”, they’ll then suddenly tell me
that I must say “there’s no God, but
Allah”. That concerns me.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

There is only one God, call him whatever. We are the one who have coined languages.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Just put ‘Allah’ to one side. Address THE God,
Creator, or whatever, and ask him, whoever
he is, to come into your heart. And do it in
your OWN language. The true Almighty
understands every language on the face of
the Earth. If he doesn’t, then he’s not so
mighty. How could he be?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

I do not believe that people should be put to death because of their criticism of Islam or Prophet or God.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

There are people who disagree with me. There are people who are not ready to accept my interpretation. There are Muslims around the world who do not accept my explanations. My job is to keep on saying what I stand for.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

‘Allah’ (Baal (Satan)) wants people to join him
in hell fire. Aslam Abdullah has already booked
his ticket there and he wants people to join him.

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Allah is merciful. He is better than you Paul.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago

Your religion mandates warfare against
unbelievers. They are the “vilest of creatures”
(Koran 8:55), when Muslims meet them
they must “smite their necks” (Koran 47:4),
the Verse of the Sword (9:5) etc.
The perpetrators of the 26,053 jihadi
attacks since 9/11 alone would strongly
disagree with you.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

No religion including promotes violence. Those who commit violence against God. If there are verses in the Quran that talk about fighting the unbelievers, they refer to those unbelievers who were at war with the Muslims at that time and who were persecuting and killing them. They were given the permission to fight back and defeat those who were out to kill them. It is no different than the concept of just war. 9/11 was not committed in the name of Islam. It was committed by those who violated everything that Islam stands for. Hitler was a Christian, yet Christianity despite its persecution of Jews beginning with Paul cannot be held accountable for the violence.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

But they did believe that they were acting in
the name of Islam, unfortunately. They were
chanting “Allahu akbar” as they committed, for
them, the ultimate act of Jihad and that they’d
get their virgins etc. Also, Hitler hated
Christianity but he did respect Muhammad
a lot. Nazism was pagan, not Christian.
Hitler also conspired with the grand Mufti of
Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini during the
“Final Solution”.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I hope you’ll look at some of the things I’ve
shown you. It’s hard to know what someone
is truly thinking, but if you really believe all
of this then it’s a pity that the many jihadists
killing non-Muslims and Muslims alike across
the world right now don’t also see it that way.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

No, it does not. 6:108
Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did. It asks you to fight back who are out to destroy you.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

You’re quoting from the peaceful part, but
they are told not to incline to peace once
they have the upper hand numerically. You
may actually live your life in accordance
with the more peaceful verses, but a great
many around the world observe the
principle of abrogation and the more violent
verses kick in. They’re following the Koran
from A-Z as they believe it’s the pure word
of ‘Allah’. That’s the problem we have and
which nobody wants to talk about. They’d
come for me first, and if you live your life by
these more peaceful verses then they’d come
for you next.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago

Aslam, I don’t hate you. I’m just sick of
people covering for jihadi atrocities across
the world, people telling us not to believe
what we see with our eyes. You are on the
wrong path. I know that Islam offers no
salvation except through ‘martyrdom’,
I understand Islam.
There is a God and the way to him is through
Jesus Christ, whose offer is open to you too.
Allah of the Koran is not the same as the God of
the Bible – there is none like him. I know
so many Muslims that don’t feel any
connection at all with God when they pray –
and in a language they don’t understand.
That’s because they should be praying to
God our Father of the Bible, which Islam
has turned them away from.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

What the so called jihadis are doing is against Islam. They are no different than Hitler who used Christianity as a cover to persecute minorities.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Firstly, Hitler despised Christianity and Nazism
was pagan. Secondly, ‘Allah’ of the Koran
is diametrically opposed to the God of the Bible.
‘Allah’ specifically denies the sonship and
crucifixion of Christ. ‘Allah’ curses Jews and
the followers of Christ, unlike the God of the
Bible. In Christianity, there is equality of the
sexes, but Muhammad stated that women
made up most of hell’s inhabitants.
I wouldn’t care if ‘Allah’ was just another name
for God, but his aim is specifically to deny
the message of the Bible and to turn people
away from it.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The jihadists say that they only want to be like mohammed, who was a proven perverted pedophile, thief, liar and mass murderer.
Those are their words, not mine.
They are proud of him.
Why are you not proud of mohammed, and come bearing lies about mohammed?

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago

Who is ‘Allah’ to whom you pray?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7GUhKqOMZ0

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

6:73
It is He who created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions):
the day He saith, “Be,” behold! it is. His word is the truth. His will
be the dominion the day the trumpet will be blown. He knoweth the unseen
as well as that which is open. For He is the Wise, well acquainted
(with all things).

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Gods truth is written in the Torah alone. It is not in the Koran. Satan your god is the greatest of all decievers or your Allah. In the bible it states that the dragon or Satan decieves the whole world. Revelation 12:9. If you wish to be saved by the blood of Christ then abandon the Koran and read and follow the teachings of the bible!

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

Torah Schmorah! Pass the baloney!
All “religions” are fairy tales.

harbidoll
harbidoll
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

what your god offers, food drink cloths shelter & sex– is what the SLAVES in the kingdom of my G-d offers! & how much More is what He offers His children, the Sons of G-d!!

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The hate message of the Qur’an towards Jews and Christians is evident by ayat like Sura 98:6, 8:55, 5:60, 9:28-30.

How Islam defines “truth” is Islam, and how Islam defines “justice” is according to Shari’a (Qur’an and Sunna in practice). So according to your own analysis, because Jews and Christians disregard Islam, they are the worst of people!

Thanks for helping to expose the hate of Islam.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Bill:
I would like to know what verse he is referring to. I find it very difficult to believe.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

We have been having a discussion with Imam Aslam Abdullah, who was interviewed together with Pamela Geller on the Hannity Show.
I have been challenging him on the Jew hatred that is written in the Koran.
He, of course, states that Muslims love Jews, out of the right side of his mouth, but on his Facebook page, he curses the Jews, for being great oppressors of Muslims in Palestine.
No mention of that 0.5% Jew, and 99.5% Muslim, that we discussed yesterday.
Justice is his favourite saying, of course as long as the Muslim wins, it’s just, and if the Muslim loses, it’s a great injustice, that justifies ongoing and never ending war against the infidel.
Remember, there is no Golden Rule concept in Islam.
Cheers

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Bill:
Thanks!
Have ever read Judges 7:3. It is about the 32,000 Jews reduced to 10,000 and then to 300 to fight their enemies in the land? There is far more to that story than what meets the eye. First God gets rid of 22,000 soilders, then he gets rid of 9700 soldiers. This is amazing! How so? If you divide 35 by 36 you get .9722 etc. Also if you multiply 35 by 36 you get 1260 or 42 months or times time and one half time. It is just one of the many beautiful mysteries in the bible!

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

You should get together with Jewish students of the Torah, who use computer programs to dissect the Torah, revealing some interesting things.
Personally, I’m not into that, but to each his own, right?
You see, that’s the beauty of Christianity and Judaism.
Always searching, questioning, looking for more answers in the Scriptures.
The Koran, on the other hand, is NEVER questioned by Muslims, and if it was, it would never stand up to intense scrutiny.
You can see proof of this, in Aslam Abdullah’s comments on this thread.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Bill:
As I’ve said before. I am messiannic believer. I know, that would be great, however one other place teaches reformed Judaism. But they do not accept Christ’s death on the cross therefore my sources are a tad bit limited however many christian churches in this town have some pretty intense bible studies!.
Thanks!

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

And, while we are here commenting, Muslims are showing their love for the Jews, by AGAIN, launching rockets from Gaza into Southern Israel.
Thank God, that Muslims love Jews.
Have you ever asked yourself, what would the situation on Israel look like, if the Palestinians were Christians and not Muslims?

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

That’s going on right now? Wow

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

Sadly yes.
See what happens, when one doesn’t finish the job?
It’s the same thing with ISIS.
Without boots on the ground, it’s impossible to defeat terrorists, as they blend into the general population, and use the public as human shields.
Israel was in full control last summer in Gaza, but the “progressive” world, led by Obama, wouldn’t back Israel in finishing off Hamas, and that was by use of ground forces going door to door in wiping out Hamas.
Kicking the can down the road, is a stupid Obama policy, that just costs more and more in every way.
No war has ever been won, without foot soldiers going door to door, except by using nuclear weapons to do the work of the foot soldier.
We all want to avoid the use of those weapons.
Cheers

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

If Palestinians were Christians and not Muslims, there would be peace between Israel and Palestine. Today, the Jew needs to understand the Christian is his greatest ally, and the Christian needs to understand the Jew is his greatest ally. Arab Christians evidently understand this as they proudly enroll in the IDF to protect Israel from jihad.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Amen brother amen.
But, too many Western nations today, are backing the Palestinians in Israel’s struggle against violent jihad.
Anti-Semitism is once again raising it’s ugly head in Europe, and even POTUS Obama is pushing Israel into a corner.
American law, doesn’t allow for negotiations with terrorists, yet Obama expects the Jews to do what is illegal in the US.
Very confusing days

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I agree with you about Western nations being against Israel. Notice what precipitated that – Europe has effectively abandoned its Christian heritage, and so that opens the door for Jew-hatred. Obama, of course, is blatantly pro-Islam, anti-Christian and anti-Jew.

Brother, it may appear confusing but all of this is deliberate. Israel is deliberately being targeted because the UN is OIC-influenced, and the OIC is made up on all Muslim governments, and Islam teaches hatred of Jews. Leftist ideologies hate what is good, with Israel and America being the lights of the world. So this is why the Leftist Obama Administration and Leftist Europe, which has absorbed 50 million Muslims, is anti-Israel.

We need to keep praying for the protection of Israel, as well as massive conversions to Jesus from the Muslim and Leftist worlds.

I will give you a taste of the peace that comes about when the focus is on the Lord. Here is a video of a Jew-hating, Palestinian Arab terrorist, who became a Christian, being interviewed by a Jewish convert to Christianity. There is hope, brother. The Lord is working:

http://www.levitt.tv/media/watch/900

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

The secret to mass conversions, is to discredit and expose the most feared man in today’s world, mohammed.
We need an all out attack on mohammed.
Cartoons, information about his life, his Jew hatred, about his lies, his pedophilia, his robbery, his mass murdering ways, about him being nothing but a war lord.
A massive “expose mohammed” campaign.
It has to be truthful, and undeniable.
That is the way to change the Muslim heart.
Attack mohammed, expose him.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Agreed! This is why there are so many satellite programs going into the Muslim world which are not only talking about the Gospel and clearing up lies told against the Bible, but are exposing Islam by reading Islamic doctrine which Muslims do not want known, which is called “slander (ghiba)” in Islam. In Islam, it is punishable by death to reveal things about Muhammad that Muslims do not want known. As the prominent, highly influential Muslim jurist and cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi correctly stated, Islam would have died with Muhammad if they stopped killing people for leaving Islam. Therefore, Islam can only survive by intimidating and killing people, and this is why many Muslims just accept what they have been told about Islam from their Imams because even asking questions (like Aisha’s age when Muhammad boned her) is anti-Islamic (Qur’an 5:101-102), and Muslims can be killed just for asking questions.

This is the extent the death cult of Islam will go to hide its evil secrets. Therefore, like you said, the way is to break the hold Islam has on Muslims by exposing the lies they have been taught about Muhammad. He is not al-Insan al-Kamil (perfect man); he is the worst example anyone can follow because rape, terrorism and murder are considered good by Muhammad.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Tell the truth about mohammed.
Thanks Sir.
This is my new mission, to expose the mohammed myth.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Bill, glad to have you on the team. We need more followers of the Holy Bible joining the effort to expose Islam and reach out to Muslims with the True God.

I have been studying Islam since 2011 out of motivation to reach my Muslim family members and the Muslim girl I was in love with at the time. This was my drive, but in studying I’ve added to my drive knowing that Islam is not just a false doctrine but a persecuting, murderous one.

I will provide you with some of the resources I’ve used to expose the myth Muhammad:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-home.htm

http://www.answering-islam.org

Books, site and videos by Christian Prince.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRYDyW5rWLgGI1qJCYr5wWQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/LegOfAllah2/videos

Books, site and videos by ex-Muslim Ali Sina.

Books, site and videos by Robert Spencer.

Books, sites and videos by Dr. Bill Warner.

Videos by the ABN Trinity Channel team of Sam Shamoun, David Wood.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1H4kfAmDe5skeeAsV42mWg

Videos, website and reading material by Usama Dakdok.

Others like Brigitte Gabriel, Clare Lopez, Sam Solomon, Steve Coughlin, Andrew Bostom, and many more.

If you have questions along the way, feel free to reach out to me.

In Jesus,

Ryan Muhammad

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Ryan, thanks for your post.
A bit about myself, I am an Israeli-Canadian Jew, who lived on the front lines, in Israel, for 18 years, served in the IDF, and still have a home and family in Israel.
I currently reside in the Toronto area.
I left Israel to return back to Canada in 2000, and I once believed, like many Israelis, that Islam was a religion of peace.
My awakening came via a friend, an Iraqi Christian, who was run out of Iraq by Muslims, and he finally got me to read the Koran, and to open my eyes.
I am a follower of all those that you mentioned above, and use them as resources in my battles against the progressives up here in Canada.
We too, are infected with the progressive disease, of denial of facts, and the usual name calling.
My usual hunting grounds are the web sites of the Toronto newspapers.
I do enjoy, going into the lion’s den so to speak.
I’m not as well versed as you are, but I’m working on it.
I have been preaching the violent jihad and Sharia law opposition, as a way to “defang” islam, and make life uncomfortable for islamists here in Canada.
I chase the Immigration Minister in our Federal Government, on a daily basis.
When he sees my name on an email, he knows that it is going to be a bad day.
mohammed is the weak spot, and I intend to attack him at every opportunity, and will even make up some opportunities.
You see, I truly believe, that all Muslims are not bad people, just misled.
We just have to show them the light, even if it’s one at a time.
With 1.6 billion followers of mohammed, we sure do have our work cut out for us.
Cheers and God bless

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Bill, thanks for sharing your background and the important work you’re doing in Canada to expose Islam. In the introduction to ex-Muslim Ibn Warraq’s book “Why I’m Not A Muslim”, it mentions the fact that Muslims are the first victims of Islam. So I agree with you that Muslims, even the terrorists, are misled. I’m not sure about the rapists though. I think they are plain evil. But I’ve seen testimonies of Muslim terrorists converting to Christianity, so I think they are like Saul before becoming Paul.

in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. John 16:2

So I think that even Muslim terrorists, once they are taught that Islam is a lie and the Bible is the Truth, can be saved. Of course, only Muslims who want the Truth can be saved, regardless if terrorist or regular Muslim.

The time for believers in the Bible to stand up against Islam / Muhammad / Qur’an and the lies told against the Bible is now.

By the way, I purchased my copy of ‘Umdat al-Salik / Reliance of the Traveller (#1 Shari’a Law Book) online used because I don’t want to help fund Islamic bookstores printing new books if I don’t have to. This Shari’a book is immensely valuable in debate. Also, it is good to cite from it to show our respective Government leaders that we are against the illegal aspects of Shari’a. From time to time I call my elected officials and ask them what steps are they taking to protect me from Shari’a. When they say Islam is a religion, I tell them I’m talking about Shari’a, which is a legal system contrary to American law (or in your case Canadian law). I then read certain parts from the book and ask them if they condemn this legal teaching. If they say they do, I ask them when they will issue a public statement condemning it, and which mosques they plan to wrote to in order to tell them that such Shari’a teachings are illegal.

I usually get the “I’ll pass your message on to the elected official” dismissal. But they know that there is at least one person out there confronting them about Shari’a.

By the way, since non-Muslims are not allowed to rule over Muslims, elected officials seem to get most bothered by Shari’a teaching they need to be kicked out of office. I tell them if they like defend Shari’a as part of Islamic religion, then let them step down and give their office to a Muslim. They really don’t like that!

God bless, my friend.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Thanks Ryan.
I’m glad that I have met you.
I hope that you don’t mind that I set my disqus to “follow” you.
I’m not stalking, rather learning.
Cheers

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The feeling is mutual, Bill. Also, I’m glad you set your account to follow me. This way you can benefit from my comments elsewhere.

God bless!

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Oh, sure mo was no dummy.
He had two laws mandatory for perpetuation of his cult.
Apostasy and blasphemy.
Once you are in the cult, you can’t leave but by death, either natural, or execution style.
Once you are inside the cult, you can’t say anything about it, or criticize it, for fear of a death sentence.
Those that leave Islam, or speak out against islam, need a special “protected” status, to encourage more of the truth coming out from Islam.
Similar to the “special” status, that we accorded homosexuals to come out of the closet.
We need to celebrate the apostates and blasphemers, not condemn them.
The LGBT acceptance, started “one at a time” and look at where they are today.
It is possible.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Bill and Ryan, I enjoyed reading your exchanges. I agree that the truth about Muhammad needs to be exposed, but I also believe that Islam, as an ideology, needs to be exposed as immoral. In my opinion, that is the root of the problem. If you are interested in that idea, please read my exchanges with wildjew, in particular the recent ones. I would be interested in your critiques/criticisms of my thoughts.

Thank you.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Hey, thanks for chiming in. Since Muhammad is Islam, you’re correct in saying we need to expose Islam too. But Bill’s point is that Muhammad is the backbone of Islam, so if we expose Muhammad in Islamic doctrine, then Islam will fall. You see, the Qur’an and Islam and Muhammad and the Muslim god Allah are all connected. Qur’an 5:3 establishes Islam as the religion, and 91 verses in the Qur’an establish Muhammad as the perfect model of conduct and Muslims must submit to him and the Muslim god Allah. So if Muhammad falls, then the whole conglomerate of Allah / Islam / Qur’an falls.

When we go after the Qur’an, Muslims and dhimmis claim “interpretation” for any teaching they don’t like. But, like Dr. Bill Warner says, while the Qur’an and Allah can appear mystical / interpretive, Muhammad is a man, and a man can be analyzed by the teachings about him. When it says he had sex with a 9 year old, it means he had sex with a 9 year old.

As Muslims try to debunk hadith after hadith we cite, they slowly tear apart their own prophet and religion in an effort to save them. This happens because we primarily go after their most trusted sources of Bukhari and Muslim, and so when they discredit their own sources, they hang Islam. And if they accept the teachings we expose, they hang Islam.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Thank you Ryan. I went to bed before you posted this and I am presently late for work. I will respond, however. You make valid and excellent points, so my response will be targeted at advancing your points by reconciling it with what I am trying to say. I work long hours, but I will respond. Thanks again, and have a great day!

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Thanks again Ryan. My goal in this response is not to criticize your approach, because I can see that using that strategy alone can be very effective. I would only say that confronting the text of the Qur’an is also effective and therefore should remain a tool in the strategy. Call it a two-pronged approach which has the same goal in mind, expose the truth about Islam so that 1) those who either follow it or support it can make the choice to abandon it, and 2) to help others confront it. If you have read any of my other posts in this thread, particularly those to Dr. Abdulah and my exchanges with wildjew, I think you can glean my approach to confronting Islam. Not to sound like a broken record, but I believe it should be confronted explicitly on moral grounds. For example, if I were to use your approach and confront Muhammad, I would say to people, Muslim or non-Muslim alike, things like this:

1. Muhammad said (Bukhari 52:260), “If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.” Do you believe murdering apostates from any religion, let alone Islam, is moral?

2. Muhammad, the perfect example of a human being, married one of his wives, Aisha, when she was 6 but did not consummate the marriage until she was 9; he was 54. Do you believe it is moral for a grown man to have sex with a 9 year girl, even if she is his wife? Is that an example you follow? Under our laws, that is considered a criminal offense called rape/pedophilia. Are our laws moral or is Islamic law which endorses that because of Mohammad’s example moral?

3. In regards to the issue with Pam’s contest: Are the laws of the U.S. which prohibit murdering people for whatever they say or draw moral, or are Islamic laws which command Muslims to murder those who blaspheme Islam by drawing images of Muhammad moral?

Anyway, I hope you see my point, which is that at the heart of the conflict is morality: Islam’s or the rest of the World’s, but in particular Western Civilization’s. Embedded in each human being is a sense of morality, even though it can be twisted and confused. Everyone wants to consider themselves moral as it is inextricably linked to every human’s sense of dignity. There are those who will deny the truth about Islam and Muhammad no matter what; they are the lost souls. However, my experience is that when people are confronted with the truth about Islam explicitly on moral terms, they start to see reality and the implications of not confronting it. Please see my latest post to wildjew today to gain further understanding of what I am saying.

Thank you for reading, Ryan, and of course, I look forward to any reply you may have.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Definitely the easiest way to expose Islam is the blatant immorality of it. I have may approaches with Muslims – sometimes I use Islamic doctrine to flow the conversation to the Bible, sometimes I show the incoherence and factual errors of the Qur’an and Sunna, and most often I just go for it and expose the immoral teachings of Islam.

For me, the easiest way to expose Islam is the sexual stuff because there is so much material to work with.

I agree that the immorality of Islam is easiest for people to see. For example, when discussing the terrorist teachings, Muslims and dhimmis love to give to “that was a historical context when Muslims were being attacked and their were defending themselves” excuse.

But when the immoral teachings are presented, there is NO POSSIBLE CONTEXT to ever justify those filthy teachings.

The Islamic view of females is for me the easiest way to hang Islam. Sura 4:3, 4:24, 23:6, 33:50-52, 70:30 teaching sexual slavery is a “right” of Muslim males is indefensible.

Sura 4:43 and 5:6 comparing touching females with unwashed hands after using the bathroom is indefensible.

Then comes the Sunna which has so much filth. Here is a link for you about Islam’s approval of grown Muslim males having sex with underage girls. You can win debate after debate just with the material in this link:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/prepubescent.htm

Keep exposing Islam. It certainly has more than enough immoral teachings to hang itself.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Ryan, your reply is a blessing…thank you for your time, helpful information, sage advice, and encouragement. I likewise encourage you to continue to confront Islam and win the hearts and souls its followers and its supporters away from it. God Bless you brother.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Thank you for your kind comments and encouragement.

In Jesus,

Ryan

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

There is no anti-Semitic teaching in the New Testament, or Old Testament for that matter. Some take statements of facts to be anti-Semitism. For example, when Yahweh said he was going to punish Israel for 400 years as a result of their persistent actions against Him, if that was only mentioned in the New Testament some would cry “anti-Semitism” over the teaching, yet because it is in the Old Testament, no one cries ‘anti-Semitism”.

The same way, when the New Testament speaks of the negative actions of Jews, like the Jewish leaders misleading the people, Jewish Jesus was calling them out on their hypocrisy.

It is factual that most Jews persecuted Christians in the First Century. The Holy Bible recording that is NOT “anti-Semitic”.

However, Islamic teaching calling Jews apes and pigs and monkeys IS INDEED anti-Semitic.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The Quran does not condemned a people because of their belief.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The concept of hell and heaven are the concepts in Christianity and Judaism. Islam simply says that those who do good deeds and stand for truth and justice would success and would be granted an eternal life, while those who reject the truth and spread violence and corruption on earth would suffer in their own misdeeds.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

You don’t worship the same god as the Christians
and Jews. You worship ‘Allah’ (a modern form of
Baal in the Bible whose worship is specifically
forbidden). It is NOT the same god. Please stop
your deceit.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

No but it sure comes down hard on those who openly disbelieve doesn’t it?
Because there are 2 types of people -moslums & non mulsuls.

Non muslums would easily fall into non believer category with a dierect ordfer from Big Al to strike off the heads of any who dare say the profit Dirty Mo was a pedophile or pervert.

As a moderate what is YOUR opinion of pedophilia or murder of innocent non muslims because of their beliefs?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

LOL, pull the other one Aslam, it rings a bell when you do!

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

What planet are you living on? Do you own a kindler and gentler version of the coran? Maybe that one should replace your older standard version! LMAOROTF!!

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

What’s a haver?

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago

Thank you .

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I’ve found the antisemitism found in the N.T. to be argumentative because the vast majority of the audience
Yeshua was speaking to was Jewish, therefore I believe
his words didn’t refer to all Jews for all time, but only the
Jews in his immediate audience, whom he was criticising.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

The only time Christ criticized the Jews they were the Sanhedrin or the Pharisees and Saducees who did not accept Jesus as God! That is why I personally am Messianic. I believe the the Messianic faith is the same faith as the apostles!

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  albeit

Did Yeshua ever state he was G-d? I had thought the Lord’s Prayer that Yeshua proposed was how his followers were to pray to G-d, not himself.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

God in three parts. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I doubt that.

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Read about the conquest of Cordoba by the savages. Then, we will discuss “peace”.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Well, those who have been killing Jews and persecuting them happen to be Muslims. The Holy Bible does not promote anti-Semitism. Jesus himself was a Jew. To be anti-Semitic and Christian is an oxymoron.

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Those who killed six million jews were Christians.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Really? Or were they Nazis? As Hitler said: “one can be a good Christian or a good German, but not both.”

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Hitler was born in 1889, in Braunau am Inn, Austria and was baptized Catholic in the same year. Hitler’s father Alois, though nominally a Catholic, was somewhat religiously skeptical and anticlerical, while his mother Klara was a devout practicing Catholic

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.” – also from the “Christian” Hitler.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago

No. Those who killed 6 million Jews were Islam-supporting, Christian-hating supremacists. Hitler persecuted the Church and killed Christians. If you were educated, you’d know this, and you’d know that it was Christians who conspired to kill Hitler. Read the book “The White Rose” to educate yourself.

Hitler bashed Christianity as being feeble, and he praised Muhammad as being the only prophet he admired. Nazis were aligned with the Muslim world, with Waffen SS 13 being made up of tens of thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Waffen SS 21 being Albanian Muslims. SS Waffen 13 committed some of the worst atrocities for Reich including bombing churches. Hitler even plotted to kidnap the Pope in Operation Rabat. Would Muslims try to kidnap Sheikh Qaradawi or the Grand Mufti of Al-Azhar University? No, because Muslims are aligned with Muslim spiritual leaders. That is why Hitler wanted to kidnap the Pope, because Hitler was against Catholicism and Christianity.

Even the Palestine-loving Democrat Jimmy Carter recognized that Hitler was persecuting Christians. This is why Carter featured the Christian minister Dietrich Bonhoeffer in his 1997 book, and wrote about how this Christian minister fled to America to escape Nazi persecution, but he felt so compelled to stand with German Christians against Nazis that he went back. The Nazis killed him upon his return to Germany.

Therefore, it was NOT Christians who killed 6 million Jews. It was Christian-hating, Islam-loving Nazis who killed 6 million Jews.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

This is what Hitler wrote: “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance
with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself
against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and
Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness,
surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what
they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s
truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless
love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the
scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.
To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?” – Adolf Hitler. the “Christian”

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Muslims love to claim “fake Muslim” when we cite Imams and Sheikhs and regular Muslims teaching terrorism, hate, supremacism and rape. Yet when we point out that Hitler was clearly a fake Christian, that he was trying to come across as a Christian to win Christians to his cause and that he was clearly misrepresenting Christianity by his words and deeds, Muslims don’t want to accept that he was a fake Christian.

Here are Hitler’s later words, just like Muhammad’s later words cancelled out his earlier ones based on abrogation.

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler from the book Hitler’s Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler’s real views. The book was published in Britain under the title, _Hitler’s Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together…. The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity…. Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)

14th October, 1941, midday:

The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death…. When understanding of the universe has become widespread… Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity…. Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity…. And that’s why someday its structure will collapse…. …the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little…. Christianity the liar…. We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)

19th October, 1941, night:

The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.

21st October, 1941, midday:

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer…. The decisive falsification of Jesus’ doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work… for the purposes of personal exploitation…. Didn’t the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it’s in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)
13th December, 1941, midnight:

Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery…. …. When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)

14th December, 1941, midday:

Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself…. Pure Christianity– the Christianity of the catacombs– is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)

9th April, 1942, dinner:
There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)

27th February, 1942, midday:

It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors– but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity…. My regret will have been that I couldn’t… behold .” (p 278)

In contrast, here is one of many Hitler’s quotes showing his admiration of Islam:

“The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad.’ — Adolf Hitler
(from “The Mysterious Achmed Huber: Friend to Hitler”)

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/islam-mein-kampf-my-jihad-versus-the-koran/

http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hitler-muslim-brotherhood.html

Aslam Abdullah, notice also how you IGNORED all of the FACTS I presented about Hitler’s blatant anti-Christian position. You IGNORE because you REFUSE to face REALITY that Hitler actions prove he was anti-Christian and pro-Islam.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Two of the Nazi war divisions were Muslim.
One in the Balkans, the other in the Middle
East. Haj Amin Al-Husseini was allied with
Hitler.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Sorry, wrote that comment before I read your
lengthy response below. Needn’t have bothered!

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

No problem, Paul. The more posts on here exposing Islam, the better.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

A good one it is too. Don’t know how anyone
can come back from that.

AnneM040359
AnneM040359
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Would it surprise you that there is more attacks against Jews and Christians now and it is from a Muslim source.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

mohammed was a famous killer of the jews.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Make your own judgement based on your common sense.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I’m trying to make a fair judgement, but you guys really confuse the issue.
Could you give me a guide, as to who is “radical” and to who is “moderate”
I don’t want to walk around suspecting every Muslim that I see.
Who is who?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Those who promote violence do not represent Islam. Those who reflect hate are not representatives of Islam. This is the simple test.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

After every pious Muslim attack in the West, when neighbours and friends of the perps are interviewed, they always say, “he was such a nice person, and I would never believe that he was capable of such things”
This includes the family of our recent pious Muslim head hacker Ussama Rahim.
Such a nice boy.
Most pious Muslim terrorists, don’t run around promoting violence, yet they sure do seem to get involved with it, in the name of allah, and as a form of worship to allah.
Does hijab and beards have anything to do with it?

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

According to the Qur’an, Allah is the “best of deceivers” (3:54; 8:30). – just like Aslam Abdullah

Ruhul1
Ruhul1
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

You are distorting the truth here. I just checked the statments in both verse you quoted are as follows: “and Allah is the best of planners” (3:54; 8:30). Maybe you are reading off a distorted translation.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

Funny how everything pointed out in the Koran
promoting deceit and violence is supposedly a “mistranslation”. Given the fact that there have
been 26,053 jihadi attacks since 9/11 alone I can
only conclude that there has never been a religion
more “misunderstood” than Islam. Maybe you could
inform IS of their mistakes? Or maybe Boko Haram?
Or Al-Shabaab?Or Jabat Al-Nusra etc?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Hahahahahaha. So muhammad wasn’t a muslim then!

Ruhul1
Ruhul1
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

Read the biography of Muhammad (peace be upon him) written by Muslims or even by non-Muslims like Karen Armstrong before make such comments. Know first and I believe knowing will be a liberating experience.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

Most writings about mohammed reveal that he was a perverted pedophile, a thief, a liar, a narcissist, and a mass murderer.
Why would one attach, “peace be upon him” to such a major criminal in the history of the world?
We condemn criminals, not revere them.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

LOL, what a maroon. Yeah we’ll all just look at what ISIS is doing, or what happens to Christians and Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh, or what happens to Christians in Egypt and Nigeria. Or how all izlamic states persecute people of other faiths.

Khun Chen
Khun Chen
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

to make every muslim accepting your ‘interpretation’ of islam, first you need to remove/delete about 60% verses from your quran, ban the sunna and ban all hadith. and there will be peace … but, by the time you make an attempt to do that, there will be fatwa made for your head.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

No Choudary is distorting Islam.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

No, he tells the truth.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Fine go and join him then. I would not.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

You know exactly what I mean. Stop
being deceitful.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Then he would have you beheaded for being an apostate if he could. Is this what you would desire?

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

He recruits people to fight as jihadis. You
deceive the ‘infidels’.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Spot on my friend 🙂

Ruhul1
Ruhul1
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

Not really. Hamas kicked out the corrupt officials of Fatah, who were collaborating with the enemy, not for their faith.

Ruhul1
Ruhul1
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Dr. Aslam Abdullah has said it right.

Ruhul1
Ruhul1
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Anjem Choudary is an extremist. Prophet Muhammad’s legacies are innocent of all that he stands for.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

Wildjew, I believe I understand what you are saying and I agree. However, I would respectfully suggest that the word that accurately describes Islam is not “extreme”, but IMMORAL. I believe Islam should be confronted explicitly and primarily on that basis using that word like a drumbeat. Every time I hear the terms “radical Islam” or “radical Islamic extremist” or even “moderate Muslim,” I want to throw up because those terms suggest there is a version of Islam that is moral. The morality (how people ought to behave) of an ideology is defined by its authoritative texts, and when you read the Qur’an, Hadith and study Sharia law, it leaps out that Islam is immoral. It deserves no quarter in free societies, let alone the planet. Unfortunately, Western culture and media are focused on the sociology of Islam (how Muslims do behave) and therefore create the false dichotomy of moderate vs extremist/radical, ignoring the root cause of the problem. The primary victims of Islam are Muslims themselves. They have been deceived from birth that the commands of Allah and Muhammad are moral, when their hearts, if not completely destroyed by the age of reason tell them differently. I particularly feel empathy for Muslim women, who are property of men and treated unfairly, to say the least. Thank you for reading.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Thank you WJ. I agree with your analysis of the political culture and the genesis of the terms used to describe Islam. In terms of how do we get the politicians and culture to use terms that reflect the TRUTH about Islam, we start by employing the “Butterfly Effect,” i.e., telling everyone we know and will listen so that the truth will spread. I know that sounds trite, but the truth can only be gleaned/heard/accepted by one person at a time. Next, the approach to the messaging, in my opinion, should not be to “shame” conservative pols into abandoning the false terminology. Instead the messaging should be directed at everyone – conservative, liberal, non-Muslim, and Muslim alike. Just as I was able to persuade you without shaming you, so too should be the approach with everyone that is confronted. (In fact, if I had shamed you, I doubt that you would have replied to me with the tenor and tone you used, which would have made reasoned interaction with you difficult). In the end, the truth always wins, although it may not seem that way during the conflict. People just need to hear it in terms they can understand. At the core of every human being is a sense of dignity and the desire to believe their worldview is just and moral. A sense of morality is innate to all humans, although it can be confused. We live in a country with moral laws (although I exclude abortion from the list) which conflict with the immoral laws/commands of Islam. Anyone who has studied the Declaration of Independence, and I am sure that includes you, understands that America succeeded from England exclusively on moral grounds (“natures law” is the same the more modern term, “moral law”). Americans rallied to do what seemed impossible at the time on the basis of the simple moral truths expressed in the Declaration. We need to confront Islam with the same straightforward messaging, both here and abroad. To do otherwise, is to surrender our freedom and the lives of future generations, including those of innocent Muslim children, to Islam, which has a 1400 year history of savage and immoral conduct when not confronted.

Thank you again, WJ, and I look forward to your response.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Thank you WJ. This conversation has likewise been enjoyable for me, and I promise to continue it. However, I went to bed before I saw your response, and presently I am running late for work. I work long hours, but I will respond, because just as you have benefited me with your response, I likewise hope to benefit you. Have a great day!

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Thanks again WJ. I believe I understand what you are saying. I also believe we agree about Islam but we would state it with different words. You say, “Islam itself is extreme” and I say “Islam is immoral.” Note, we are both making moral judgments/truth claims about Islam with our statements. Yours causes the reader/listener to discern from the context what you exactly mean, as the word “extreme” can have many different meanings and connotations depending on the context. Mine I would argue does not require the reader/listener to consider the context to understand, as everyone knows what “immoral” means and the seriousness of the word. In fact, compare the dictionary (Webster or Dictionary.com) definitions of the words “extreme” and “immoral,” and then ask yourself which word is more precise and direct about the point we are both making? (To save you time, here is Webster’s definition of immoral: “not moral; broadly : conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles.” To save space, I won’t re-print the multiple definitions of “extreme.”)

I believe using the word immoral to describe Islam defines and gets to the core of the conflict, which is centered on morality, even though few are using the word. From my previous posts, you understand my view on words like “extreme/extremist” and “radical,” so I won’t re-hash that . The events immediately following aftermath of 9/11 show that the differences between the various groups along the political spectrum, as well as religious groups, melt away and become irrelevant when confronted with the immoral tenets of Islam which was at the core of those Muslims actions. Why? Because people understand that murder is immoral. They also understand that polygamy, beating your wife, slavery (especially sex slavery), pedophilia (marrying girls at the age of 9), female genital mutilation, paying protection money (jizya), and lying (taqyaa), just to name a few tenets of Islam, are also immoral. Even people who claim to be Muslims understand it. Note the exchanges with Dr. Abdulah in the commentary. He characterizes all of the general commands in the Qur’an to commit violence against unbelievers as defensive. Why? Because he understands to murder people who don’t share your beliefs, offend you, or even blaspheme your religion is immoral, but defending your life against a murderer is. The problem with his argument is that it is not supported by the facts, or more precisely, is not true, which is why he doesn’t and can’t cite Qur’an verses to support his claim.

As much as anyone, I believe Muslims, particularly Muslim women, are victims of this ideology, and the people who claim to be Muslims yet behave morally (i.e. do not follow the express teachings of the Qur’an), and there are plenty of them, are not only the most conflicted human beings on the planet, but also are not Muslims. Those people have to decide whether they are going to throw in with the rest of the world or with the true Muslims (i.e. those people who submit to the tenets of Islam) who view them as apostates, and therefore want to murder them as well. There really is no middle ground, unless of course there is a sudden movement in the Muslim world to remove the immoral tenets from Islam which would come from deleting, re-writing, or re-interpreting the Qur’an and Hadith. That is never going to happen.

For the non-Muslim world, particularly the US and Western civilization as a whole, not to confront Islam on express moral terms, is frankly suicidal and unloving to future generations. It is also unloving to future generations of Muslims who will be victimized by Islam and who will continue to perpetuate Islam if there parents are not confronted now. As wrong as he is, I have nothing but love in my heart for Anjem Choudary. He needs to be confronted and hear the truth spoken in love. Like Anjem, I pray and mourn for every Muslim who acts on or promotes Islamic moral code. They are lost souls.

Thank you for reading WJ. I look forward to your response.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

What radicalised Anjem Choudary? Perhaps
it was the example of the ‘prophet’ who
‘peacefully’ massacred the Jewish tribe of
Banu Qureyza in 627 AD. After which, those
who weren’t killed were enslaved. Of course,
they were only enslaved “in defence” and
it was all in “context”.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

True. He’s not deceitful enough. He keeps
shooting his mouth off and giving the game
away.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

It’s kinda strange that imams, mullahs and clerics preaching in muslim lands are far, far, far, far more reminiscent of Chowderhead than they are Aslam.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

A deliberate malaprop? Remove the “against” and we all see what this imam is really saying.

ArnoldLayne
ArnoldLayne
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

AGREED – Hannity is the worst at cutting off guests and then repeating his talking points.

BonniePrinceCharlieD
BonniePrinceCharlie
8 years ago
Reply to  ArnoldLayne

DISAGREE. When it comes to cutting off, Hannity is a mere amateur compared with Dhimmi O’Reilly.

Nina
Nina
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

Hannity does have his compulsive moments. Maybe Rush or Levin should talk to him about it.

Maxsteele
Maxsteele
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

He cuts people off when they do not answer questions but attempt to use the time to lie or propagandize like this Imam. He does not want to admit that in every single country that has an Islamic majority that they follow the sharia and do so violently. This is all prescribed by Muhammed in the Koran. When they are a minority they are to lay low and claim victimhood (i.e. Islamophobia claims). When they are equal in number then start to impose your laws, seek to claim your own separate portions of the country. Then when in the majority, subjugate the unbelievers and follow the Sharia strictly. This guy and many of the so called peaceful Muslims are fifth columns sent here to get that muslim majority in the west. So, I respect that Hannity will not allow these liars to spew their propaganda.

Ruhul1
Ruhul1
8 years ago
Reply to  Maxsteele

You are being consumed by the monsters of your own making. Before you criticize, if you are an ethical human being, I hope you will study Islam from an objective perspective, not from that of the anti-Islamic folks.

Susan
Susan
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

Maybe you should read your books and then come back and try to lie. A lot of us have had the misfortune of reading that evil. Do not be disheartened I have two links for you.

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

Maxsteele
Maxsteele
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

I am a student of history and I do not need to study your political, repressive, doctrine. From the beginning of its inception Islam has been a philosophy of war, repression and tribal regressive ideology. If you are an ethical human being you would study the truth, the actions, of the Islamic faith, not your indoctrination.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

All we have to do is look at how non-muslims are treated in all izlamic states to be objective.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

“objective” means looking at “all” sides of the discussion, both pro and con.
I have done so, and have discovered that mohammed was a perverted pedophile, a thief, a liar, and a mass murderer.
These are undeniable facts as discovered by my “objective” research into the life of mohammed.
Cheers

Steve Brown
Steve Brown
8 years ago
Reply to  Ruhul1

Sharia Law is the opposite of , ” Life Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” as written in the US Constitution. The web is filled with Imams and muslims that proclaim that the world must live by the laws of Allah and not the laws of a democracy as written in the US constitution. In the USA there is separation of church and state, However in Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia Imams have declared that according to ”Sharia Law” ; a female can be married when she is still in the cradle, gays can be sent to jail or killed, people can be put to death for leaving the religion of Islam , people are stoned to death for committing adultery. Ruhul1 , is that an ”Objective” enough study for you ?

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

QATTIYA! Why even give these bozos any time to rattle their 7th century filth?

Magnus Atheos
Magnus Atheos
8 years ago
Reply to  QuanellEleven

Lol! For me every time one of these clowns speak just serves to maintain my dislike of them and the self-loathing leftists.

LX5000
LX5000
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

If you’ve heard one Islamic taqiyya you’ve heard them all. Hannity is comparing doctrine with outcome.

Andrew
Andrew
8 years ago
Reply to  Magnus Atheos

Main difference is Choudary tells the truth, so yes give him time, but this guy is lying; and needs to be called out. If even one lie passes without being questioned all the viewers will assume this guys telling the truth for that particular lie.

Magnus Atheos
Magnus Atheos
8 years ago
Reply to  Andrew

Sure, but do you really think that people will believe his lies? I know I don’t. There will always be a delusional leftist who will, but most informed people who see what is going on all around the world and now on the home front will laugh at clowns like this. I hear less and less people spouting that “Islam is a religion of peace” garbage these days compared to a year ago. Since ISIS, the “religion of peace” is a much tougher sell, even for the self-loathing left.

Fromafar
Fromafar
8 years ago

Not able to see the video on an iPad. Anyone have a URL or a link?
Thanks….

pamelageller
pamelageller
8 years ago
Reply to  Fromafar
Fromafar
Fromafar
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

Thank You Pamela!
I watched. You were fabulous as usual!

Jed
Jed
8 years ago
Reply to  pamelageller

As much as I like Hannity, he desperately needs to learn how to keep his mouth shut long enough for the guests to answer his questions. He has become worse than Charlie Rose at answering his own questions. If Hannity is unwilling to allow his guests to speak, why bother to have them on at all? It would be far more effective, to use the old expression, to give them enough rope to hang themselves. As it is, to use another old expression, he preaches only to the choir. He will never inform, much less convince, with this approach. Sad to say, but Hannity has not gotten better with age.

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago
Reply to  Jed

He NEEDS to stop talking once in a while. So many times the guest has been on the verge of explaining their important life experience which may resonate well with the listeners, and then BAM, Hannity interrupts with his canned rant.

Jed
Jed
8 years ago

Agreed.

stevemusicmaker
stevemusicmaker
8 years ago
Reply to  Jed

I usually agree with what Hannity says but like you, Jed, and BraveOnMyKeyboard, I tire of his ranting and interrupting!

Hannity was fun when he used the ‘thing-on-the-street’ interview and when he had people call in, but hearing him make his own points, instead of the callers, has become so boring I rarely tune-in!

I also tire of him giving so much time to the left to spew their side, and I am not talking about leftist callers but leftist interviews! In this sense, we could learn something from leftist-media, they NEVER give the right’s version of things, NEVER, except when in accusation-mode! Let the left spend their own money telling their side.

“Canned’ity –it’s old, –it is ‘preaching to the choir’, he needs to do what made him interesting a decade ago!

How about doing the advice-call-in thing? How about doing the man-on-the-street interviews again? And how about just letting the callers call-in and speak while ignoring the left entirely for quite a long while?

‘Canned’-ity carries so much water for the Republican side (himself) that when he’s finished I feel water-‘bored’-ed!

Tesseract
Tesseract
8 years ago

I agree. I think of Hannity as Fox’s only “real”, consistent Conservative. However, he’s gotten to where he rants too much. And I don’t particularly enjoy his on air interactions with his staff, or their annoying, unexpected interruptions. I listen to Limbaugh’s show every day on the radio and, I almost always find it just as entertaining and informative as I always have. I often turn the radio off when Hannity comes on afterwards though. He repeats himself and he’s a bit “rant-y” these days.
Cheers!

stevemusicmaker
stevemusicmaker
8 years ago
Reply to  Tesseract

Tesseract said, “I agree. I think of Hannity as Fox’s only “real”, consistent Conservative. However, he’s gotten to where he rants too much. And I don’t particularly enjoy his on air interactions with his staff, or their annoying, unexpected interruptions. I listen to Limbaugh’s show every day on the radio and, I almost always find it just as entertaining and informative as I always have. I often turn the radio off when Hannity comes on afterwards though. He repeats himself and he’s a bit “rant-y” these days.”

Cheers!

(Steve)
Ditto

…:)

curenado
curenado
8 years ago

This fake death cult must be eradicated completely and the trogs given some sort of less dirty, base and sadistic superstition with which to mortify their wretched selves.

blahblahgrama@yahoo.com
8 years ago

The Quran is really 2 books. Take your pick. The early verses contain no words of violence. The later verses are all about every debauchery imaginable. They abrogate the early verses with the later and then lie to protect their true objective. The truth is out there. No hiding it now. We are slowly facing the real entity. The Beast. Islam is the Beast of the book of Revelation and the empire that Daniel the prophet warned of in the last days. His depiction of this end times empire is spot on. A warning for all muslims (some have had the truth revealed) that the true and living God will destroy all that worship the Beast. They have an unbelievable zeal for God but it is misguided and pure deception from the pit of hell. Just think if they came to Yeshua the Messiah and were cleansed and saved… they would make Billy Graham look like a school marm…..

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

The Quran gives people the right to defend them and their honor and their faith if they are violently attacked by their enemies. All the verses in the Quran that exhort people to take up arms are within the context of defending the rights of the self to live their faith peacefully. This concept of the Quran is part of the Second Amendment of our constitution and the right to live you faith is part of the first amendment.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Sura 48:29 clearly tells Muslims to be kind to each other and to be ruthless to the non-believers.
Any idiot can clearly see what is written.
Would you care to give me Suras from the Koran, where your moon god allah shows his love for me, a non-believer.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

This verse is describing the situation in a war. Those who are Muslims are together and when they confront the enemy, they are strong. Just lie saying Americans should deal a heavy blow to al Qaeda in defense of Americans.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Americans, are not in a Holy War with al-Qaeda.
Sura 48 is all about war in the name of your allah god.
Killing in the name of God is just wrong isn’t it?

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

When Islam is forced upon people by the sword
(as Muhammad was “ordered” to do), people
will defend themselves by whatever means, so
wouldn’t that force Muslims to “defend” themselves
whilst forcing Islam onto all nations until the only
religion belongs to ‘Allah’ and they testify that
Muhammad is his messenger?

FrenchCatholicForFreedom
FrenchCatholicForFreedom
8 years ago

Glorious, Pam, as usual! I couldn’t expect less of someone who has STUDIED the matter. Educating Americans about Sharia law and Jihadist doctrine has never been more urgent. To know Islam or get fooled by it, Americans must choose! Ignorance is no longer an option, this is a war on the oldest totalitarianism the world has ever known!

BraveOnMyKeyboard
BraveOnMyKeyboard
8 years ago

I also wondered about that. Did he mean that they don’t really recognize the first, but recognize the “right” of their young pirates to try to attempt to kill?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

I was describing the context of jihad. Islam recognizes the right to bear arms and use them if you are attacked and your life is under threat. But Islam does not recognize the right to kill someone because of differences of opinions.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

According to the Qur’an, Allah is the “best of deceivers” (3:54; 8:30). – just like you you liar

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

So, a Muslim could interpret a cartoon of mohammed, to be an attack on Islam, giving him justification to murder and behead, right?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Yep,
((((;~{[>

Cliff
Cliff
8 years ago

Sorry, Pamela. I will defend you to the very end but this Imam was not given a voice. That Hannity/Fox News allotted such a brief period of time for this segment is outrageous and Hannity’s constant interruptions have become tiresome.
Let this Imam speak and then go after him with Quranic verse. But let the man speak. This interview did nothing to support your cause, Pamela.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Cliff

Cliff, please watch the video again, and I believe you will see that the Imam wasn’t going to answer Sean’s question. The Imam first tried to divert the issue to religions in general and Sean stopped that. Then the Imam claimed that Islam doesn’t command people to murder for blasphemy or for anything else. Sean immediately challenged him on that, and then Pam brilliantly confronted it by quoting the Quran, which is the source of the problem. Ultimately the Imam ended up saying that those verses are read out of context. Of course, he offered no proof, only that they are defensive in nature. Did you notice that the Imam, who should know the Qur’an better than anyone at that interview, didn’t offer one verse of the Qur’an to refute those arguments? He couldn’t even provide a specific historical context why those verses are defensive. And for good reason: there are none. I quit watching Hannity because he continued to promote the false dichotomy of “moderate” vs “radical” Islam, but last night with Pam it appeared he understands the truth about Islam, and he wasn’t going to allow the Imam to lie about it without challenging him. I would respectfully disagree with your conclusion about it not supporting the cause. Finally there is a MSM personality who seems interested in getting to the truth and is no longer interested in allowing air time, as limited as it was, to be sucked up with same tired lies we have all heard from Imams such as this. And finally, the audience heard a focused, fact filled discussion about the issue, which the Imam didn’t want to have. But that’s just my $.02, and I respect you and wish you the best even if I haven’t persuaded you.

Cliff
Cliff
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Thank you for the kind reply to my comment. My two main points: 1) segment should have been longer – there was simply not enough time to hear everyone’s points and 2) I wanted to hear the Imam – doesn’t matter what he was saying, I wanted to hear him.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Cliff

You’re welcome Cliff. I agree, there should have been more time allocated, and I understand that you wanted to hear more of the Imam, which is fair. Thanks for your response.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Pam’s reference was out of context. I was referring to blasphemy and apostasy. Pam was referring to a verse that exhorted Muslims at the time of Prophet Muhammad to fight against those who had imposed wars on Muslims. She was speaking out of context. I wish if I was given the time to explain.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I replied to your other comment above, but please explain how the verses Pam cited are taken out of context, or kindly direct me to authoritative verses or commentary that support your position. In regards to blasphemy and apostasy, do you agree with me that it is immoral to murder for blasphemy or apostasy in any religion including Islam? Do you agree that Islamic doctrine imposes the death penalty on anyone who commits blasphemy or apostasy from Islam? I look forward to your response Aslam. Thank you.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

LOL, I think Aslam will have distinct problems lying around your conundrums.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

there are no schools of thoughts in Islam. Neither the Quran nor the Prophet mention them. There are differences among Muslims on interpretations of the Quran and the sayings of the Prophet. The doctrine of abrogation is not recognized by a majority of Muslims.Some of those interpretations are very extreme. For instance the interpretation that Anjum takes is extreme. I do not accept those interpretations that promote violence and terror.

albeit
albeit
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

That is the major problem with your book the coran. It is not self interpreting. The bible on the other hand is!!! One verse in the bible self interprets another verse somewhere else on the bible! In this way we can carry on a loving relationship with the one true living God!!!

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Thank you Aslam for participating in the discussion, as I respect you for being willing to defend your faith in a place where most of the viewpoints oppose it. The doctrine of abrogation generally refers to Sura 2:106. Please explain to me or direct me to scholarship that rejects the view that the last verses/revelations given abrogate or control over earlier contradictory verses/revelations. Pam cited the following Qur’an verses: 2:191; 4:89; 9:5; and 47:4. Please explain why those are not prescriptive commands on all Muslims to commit violence on unbelievers (which would include me) as Pam contends. Please help me understand what you mean by “extreme” and why the plain language in those verses mean something different than what they say on their face. While you are at it, could you address 2:244; 2:216; 3:56: 3:151: 4:76; 4:95; 4:104; 5:33; 8:12; 8:15; 8: 39; 8:67; 9:29; 9:41; 9:111; and 9:123, as I read those verses to prescribe Muslims to commit violence as well. I assume you reject the “extreme” interpretations on the basis that they are immoral, am I correct? If so, you and I agree.

If in the course of your response, you realize the verses I cited really mean what they say, then I would respectfully suggest you are not a Muslim, because you don’t believe them, I’m sure on the basis that they command you to behave immorally. Thank you again Aslam, and I look forward to your response.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

I agree wildjew. Sura 2:106 is critical to understanding the Qur’an and Islamic doctrine. I also agree that Spencer is a national treasure. So is Pam. I did not hear Pam talk about the 4 schools of authoritative schools of Islam in that video though. Are you referencing another interview or publication by her? I am going to respond to Aslam Abdullah next, and perhaps you can be kind enough to help clarify since you brought it up.

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago

Pam Geller, Rosa Parks, & Malala Yousafzai: Same Struggle, Different Buses:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/06/pam-geller-rosa-parks-malala-yousafzai-same-struggle-different-buses/

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt wrong. You know what Malala did w/a significant chunk of her Nobel Prize money? She donated it to Hamas, the izlamic terrorist group whose charter calls for the worldwide extermination of Jews.

Donald Joy
Donald Joy
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

To build schools. Who said she was wise?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Donald Joy

LOL, do you think I believe that line of izlamic crap? Do you really expect me to believe she didn’t know that money would be going to help destroy the state of Israel?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

I do not think it was a debate. If Pamela really wants a debate, let her choose a venue, audience and a place and I will come to respond all the questions she wants to raise about Islam and Muslims. She has every right to express her freeom the way she wants within the constitutional framework. Her campaign to draw cartoons of our Prophet would hurt me and put me at pain, but for my faith, prophet and country, I would take it and suffer all the hurts and all the ridicule. Let me retreat, in my understanding, the Quran does not promote violence. There is no death penalty for those who blaspheme or those who apostates. Every life is sacred and every life must be protected. Islam stands for human dignity and human life.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Why would cartoons of a proven pedophile, lying, thieving mass murderer “pain” you?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

When someone abuses my mother, I feel pain.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

So would I, but that doesn’t answer my question.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

I’m sure that Pamela would be more that happy to arrange a debate with you.
Email her and set it up.
My bet, is that you are afraid to do so.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I am ready anytime and anywhere. Make it on Hannity show but let it be civil and let it be fair.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Email Pamela.
Or better yet, there is a comment below by the moderator, reply to it saying that you would like to set up a debate.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Show me one verse in the Quran that says that those who blaspheme Allah should be killed. I can show you verses from the Hebrew Bible that says kill those who blaspheme. Not only the one but the entire village. There is no word for blasphemy in the Quran

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Aslam, here is a very good article which addresses blasphemy in Islam. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/03/ten_key_points_on_islamic_blasphemy_law.html.

Please provide the verses in the Hebrew Bible that say kill those who blaspheme, as I would like to address same.

Am I correct to conclude that you believe it is immoral to murder for blasphemy of any kind? If so, are you saying that the Jewish religion is immoral and any religion that endorses it is likewise immoral?

I look forward to your response. Thank you.

Bigbaddaboom
Bigbaddaboom
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Why are you wasting mine and every kafirs time with your waterdown version of lies about Islam here….!

Your time would be better spent by telling your murderous Muslim brothers & sisters of ISIS,Boko Haram, al-qaeda, ect., how Islam really is.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago

Stellar Pam!! You focused on the authoritative texts and therefore attacked the root of the problem: the totalitarian, immoral ideology called Islam. Hannity appears to be getting it, because I didn’t hear him try to distinguish between “radical” and “moderate” Islam, which for anyone who has read the Quran and Hadith knows is a false and misleading dichotomy. Hannity also refused to let the Imam divert, minimize and obfuscate, and did not buy the Imam’s version of what the Quranic verses you quoted teach. Please get some rest. And as you brilliantly said to the Imam at the beginning, I likewise say to you, Shalom.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

Just thinking, The issue is not if Hannity is buying some thing or not. The issue is if Muslims believe in that thing and the majority of Muslims believe in the interpretation that was offered there.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Aslam, thank you for your reply. I think you are saying that there are multiple interpretations of the Qur’an, and what matters, is what the majority of Muslims believe. The problem with your claim and the Imam’s claim is that you don’t offer any evidence to support why the jihadists who cite chapter and verse of the Qur’an and Hadith to justify their immoral acts have misinterpreted those verses. This leads me to conclude that your beliefs and the majority of Muslims who you claim side with you, as genuine as they may be, are not grounded in the TRUTH of what the Qur’an commands and teaches. The fact you claim that there are multiple interpretations of the Qur’an and disagreement about its meaning should undermine your belief that the Qur’an is true in light of the following verses which make the following claims about its clarity:

Qur’an 6:114—Shall I seek for a judge other than Allah, when He it is Who has sent down to you the Book fully explained?

Qur’an 11:1—This is a Book, whose verses have been made firm and free from imperfection and then they have been expounded in detail.

Qur’an 12:1—These are verses of the clear Book.

Qur’an 16:89—And We have sent down to thee the Book explaining all things . . .

Qur’an 24:46—Certainly We have revealed clear communications, and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right way.

Qur’an 27:1—These are verses of the Qur’an—a book that makes (things) clear.

Qur’an 41:3—A Book, whereof the verses are explained in detail . . .

Qur’an 57:9—He it is who sends down clear communications upon His servant, that he may bring you forth from utter darkness into light.

Aslam, I have read the Qur’an, and I would certainly like you to explain to me how your fellow Muslims who commit immoral acts on a daily basis, citing the Qur’an, Hadith or the Sharia (the political implementation of the tenets found in the Qur’an and Hadith) as justification for their behavior have misunderstood it, or could possibly misunderstand it given the claims made by the Qur’an above. If they have misunderstood it, doesn’t that undermine your belief in whether Islam is true in light of the verses cited above?

I understand these are difficult questions. Perhaps I am misunderstood, so I look forward to you explaining it to me. Thanks again.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Pew Research Institute reports, that 77% of Muslim worldwide, want that brutal, rights denying Sharia law.
So, you are wrong about the majority of Muslims.
We all know that Sharia calls for brutality against the non-believers.
Wrong again Aslam.
You really are a fraud

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

Pamela. This country does not deny you the right to draw the cartoons of Prophet Muhammad. The Muslims cannot stop you and prevent you from doing that. Muslim Americans do not care what you and you do not. But when you would give your perspective on sharia and the Quran, be prepared to listen to the perspectives of Muslims on these issues. You are entitled to your opinion and Muslims are entitled to their opinions on their own faith. You are the one who wants to silence them. You would be surprised to note that if any Muslim threatens your life, they would all oppose that Muslims. Have respect for people and their faith and you would find respect.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Sounds great except for 1 thing , when Pam disagrees she does it in print when a mooslum disagrees they do it with dull knives.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

This Muslim is using the print to express his views.

IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
IslamicShoatsInbreederSquad
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Aha you all must be a moderate muslum then Because the others reach for the beheading cam..

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago

Jihad of the pen.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Please share with us , Sir, you views on the Jewish people. If you would, please.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  veritas

Jews are the people of the book and deserve the same dignity that every other human being deserves.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

If that’s what you truly believe then you are not
being a good Muslim. Either that or you are being
deceitful. Muhammad was “ordered” to fight people
until they confessed that ‘Allah’ was the only god
and that he was the messenger. All non-Muslims
are to live under ‘dhimmitude’ status and pay
the Jizya tax so that they feel “subdued”.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Instead of trying to whitewash Islam to people
on this site, is there any chance of you going
onto jihadist sites and telling them how they’ve
got it all wrong?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

mohammed disagreed with you, and in fact slaughtered as many as he could get his dirty hands on.

veritas
veritas
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Thank you. Are you public with this view , Sir, I wonder ?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

You were doing a good job of explaining, until that “but” came in.
Once you start with the “but”, anything that you said previous is just a cover up for your true opinion.
You Sir, want to silence Pamela, just come out of that “moderate” Muslim closet of yours, and tell the truth.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

She is speaking up. No one is denying her the right to speak. Where was the but used?

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Read your own comment.
Your “but” is glaringly clear.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Yes, I have been saying it loudly and clearly that violence is wrong. People cannot be killed for their beleifs.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

mohammed slaughtered 1000”s of Jews because of their beliefs.
He was a true scumbag

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Do you think that the Saudis have respect for other religions, when they totally ban the Bible in Saudi Arabia?
Do you oppose violent jihad, and Sharia law, in any form in the US?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

The Saudis ban ALL other religion, whether it be Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist, Satanist, Wiccan or Samaritan. The possession of a non-muslim holy book is a crime in Saudi Arabia.

Fromafar
Fromafar
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

She doesn’t want to silence them. She simply doesn’t want to be silenced BY them…..

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Why should we respect an ideology that is based on the teachings of a perverted pedophile, liar, thief and mass murderer?
That’s like saying that we should respect “Charlie Manson” and his cult.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Ah, come on, let’s have a full debate.
This was just nonsense, and a waste of time.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Then we have to corner them to state their true position, and that takes time, not 3 minutes on Hannity.
Sorry to say it, but these appearances by Pam are a waste of time because of time restrictions.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Well, I can only hope that this tactic works.
I guess that if her appearance gets just ONE more to oppose the ideology of Islam, it’s worth it.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Been digging for years.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Heh, at least the dude Aslam, if it’s really him, has the courage to come on here and debate with us.
Rarely do we find Muslims brave enough to comment here.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago

During the life time of the Prophet, Medina was attacked 81 times. Some 478 people were killed. 280 were Muslims, the other non Muslims. And you still claim Islam spread by sword. Christians killed 6 million Jews only in the last century. Must we conclude that Christianity spread by sword.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Bullshit. Nazism was founded on pagan beliefs, NOT
Christianity. STOP lying. Two of the Nazi war divisions
were Muslim who helped with the Holocaust.

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Paul K

It’s been documented that Hitler admired Islam and deprecated Christianity.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  defcon 4

True.

Paul K
Paul K
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

The Armenian Genocide?

defcon 4
defcon 4
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Over a million Christians died fighting the Nazis. How many muslims died fighting FOR the Nazis as opposed to against them?

Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Imam Abdullah. We wish you to tell us more about islam. I have some questions for you. Please respond to all of them so I may learn more about islam.

1. How many people did mohamed kill himself, and how many people were killed by his followers who he ordered to have murdered.

2. How many cities did his army conquer during mohameds life, and what lands did muslims invade after mohamad died until now.

3. Where did mohamed get his slaves from? Were they only captives of the cities he conquered, caravans he raided, how many were bought slaves.

4. How many women did he rape from the cities that he conquered. How many of those were married women whom he had just murdered their husbands and fathers?

5. How many little girls did he rape? Was it just aisha (one of his dozen wifes) he raped at the age of 9? What was the youngest age of girl mohamed raped?

hdsda
hdsda
8 years ago

At least let the opponent make his entire point; then, address that point fully. This is more convincing than cutting him off and restating your position as Hannity does.

mike
mike
8 years ago

“I don’t care if you worship a stone, just don’t stone me with it”. Pamela Geller

truthsayer
truthsayer
8 years ago

I think that Iman should go to a barbershop, have his beard shaved off, get his hair cut, take a bath and use some deodorant for starters. Oh yeah… then brush his teeth and use Listerine to rid himself of that camel ass bad breath of his. How about trading in that Goober from Mayberry goofball hat of his for a real baseball cap with a picture of Porky Pig on the front of it. Then we can head on out to get some B-B-Q ribs. Afterwards we can fix him up on a real date with this chick.

truthsayer
truthsayer
8 years ago

Iman has a girlfriend. Surprise!!

BRIXAXS
BRIXAXS
8 years ago
Reply to  BRIXAXS

Soon There will several muslim countries in EUrope!!! France, Russia, Britain, Sweden,,,,,Germany, Nerherland will be a muslim country in about 15 years!!!

BRIXAXS
BRIXAXS
8 years ago

The muslim continent EUROPE!

QuanellEleven
QuanellEleven
8 years ago

http://www.barenakedislam.com
Know who your friends are!!

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago

Pamela, you did an excellent job. I applaud you for citing Islamic doctrine because Muslims want to hide Islamic doctrine from the public, so please continue to cite it publically to expose it.

The Imam employs the usual “that was in a historical context when Muslims were being persecuted and had to defend themselves”. I respond to this by saying:

1) the whole Qur’an is in a historical context because it is from over 1,000 years ago. The issue is what the Qur’an teaches to Muslims to follow for all time, and those are the Medinan ayat like Sura 2:191, 47:4, 8:12, 9:5, 9:29

2) Sura 109:6 was in a historical context when Muhammad was low in number and so he had no choice but to speak peacefully, like you’re doing now

3) the Sunna matches the Quran’s prescription for attack on people just because they are non-Muslim. For example Sahih Bukhari Vol. 1 Book 8 Hadith 387 and Sahih Muslim 1:30, which are the top two books of Muhammad in the world:

Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they
say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say
so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter,
then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not
interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with
Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu
Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied,
“Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces
our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered
animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations
as other Muslims have.”

“The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so
long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”

Do you reject Muhammad’s Sunna? Do you reject Sahih Bukhari and Muslim?

Muslims squirm when presented with this.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

As they should, especially when they appear to be all about justice, like Aslam Abdullah.
Justice is an amazing thing when it comes to Islam.
If it goes their way, then it is just.
Anything else, is unuist, and a reason for war.
Just read all of his comments on this thread as proof of my statement.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

You’re correct. Islam is a one-way street. When Muslims talk about “dialogue”, they mean one-way dialogue. This is based on Qur’an 3:64 in which the “common word” Muslims want us to come to is for all of us to be Muslims.

Muslim Brotherhood jihad theorist Sayyid Qutb’s book Milestones mentions how “bridge-building” in Islam is for non-Muslims to cross over to Islam and not the other way around.

Therefore, with this mentality, “justice” to Muslims means anything Islamic, like you correct noted. And a reading of Islamic Shari’a Law shows that what Muslims consider to be “justice” is what normal people recognize to be injustice. For example, ‘Umdat al-Salik is the world’s number one book of Islamic Shari’a Law, certified by the number one school of Islamic jurisprudence in the world for 1,000 years, Al-Azhar University in Egypt.

In the section entitled “Justice”, subsection o9.13 reads the following. I’d like to see how Aslam Abdullah will try to convince us this teaching represents justice:

“When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.”

This is EXACTLY why ISIS takes captive non-Muslims and enslaves them. This is considered halal (kosher) and not haram (forbidden) in Islam. So, according to Aslam Abdullah’s doctrine, slavery and breaking marriages / adultery is justice!

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

Got to give you credit Ryan, you are well versed on the subject of Islam.
Keep up your good work.
God bless

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Thank you, Bill. I win 100% of the time in debate against Muslims and dhimmis, that is if they let me make my points without shouting me down. I argue from Islam’s own books, and the opposition only offers smears, denial, deflection, avoidance, and attack because they know their fantasy version of Islam is a myth and the real Islam, the Islam of Qur’an and Muhammad, is indefensible.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

The secret to defeating this corrupt ideology is through discrediting mohammed, and we all know who he was.
He is the most fragile part of the myth.
Islam, together with the MSM has turned him into the most feared man in the world.
Just imagine, a religion that is based on fear and hate.
Wasn’t jesus all about love? Isn’t the Christian version of God all about love and forgiveness?
The way to the Muslim heart has to come through discrediting mohammed, and then the house of cards will come crashing down.
Keep bashing and exposing the fraud “mohammed”
You have the facts mate.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I agree with all you wrote.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

As we comment, I’m already working on my facts discrediting the myth mohammed.
I hope that Pamela goes through these comments, as sees the wisdom behind debunking the mohammed myth.
We will see how she handles her future interviews.
Of course there will be more interviews, as there is NO end to pious Muslim jihad, led by that pedophile, thief, liar and mass murderer mohammed.
When islam and mohammed are concerned, it ALWAYS gets worse for the infidel, ALWAYS.
More bad, is surely on the way, guaranteed 100%

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

It seems she is catching on to the need to cite Islamic doctrine to expose Muhammad and his Qur’an. This is good because the entire system (media, government, education, entertainment) is promoting the myth of Muhammad and censoring out facts about Islam. She has the media platform right now. I pray she continues to use it to cite Islamic doctrine on the air exposing Islam.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Ryan Muhammad

I see that Pam’s skills are improving, and as the subject is Islam and mohammed, we know that it isn’t going to go away.
Many more opportunities are on the horizon.
I wonder what would happen if she was to say “I don’t know why you are always wanting to defend someone, this mohammed, who was a proven pervert, pedophile, liar, thief, and mass murderer”
“Why are you turning such disgusting person into the most feared man in the world”
The progressive interviewers, would have heart attacks after such comments.
it would be priceless.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

They would probably ban her from TV after that! Regardless, I too would love to watch her say that.

When people accuse me of hating all Muslims or being anti-Muslim, I tell them that I don’t have a problem with most Muslims, or even some Muslims, perhaps the terrorists, but my problem is really only with one Muslim. The one who taught x,y,z (I list off a few things disgusting teachings), and that problematic Muslim who causes all these problems is Muhammad.

When I say that, it separates Muslims from Muhammad because no one wants to be associated with the filthy teachings I cite. And if they come at me by saying to “offend” (meaning telling the truth about) Muhammad is to offend all Muslims, then I ask them if they are hypocrites or not. If they are not hypocrites, they would equally condemn offensive speech against the Christian religious figure Jesus Christ because that would offend over 2 billion people, way more people than Muslims. If they say yes they would equally condemn offensive teachings against Jesus, then I cite Qur’an 4:157 denying the crucifixion of Jesus and then thank them for condemning the Qur’an for being offensive to the religion of over 2 billion people.

Their heads explode when I do that.

Ryan Muhammad
Ryan Muhammad
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

By the way, facebook banned me for 24 hours from logging in, and even now they block me from posting or even giving thumbs up to comments. Why? All because I went on the United airlines page and posted this comment in reply to someone supporting United for firing the flight attendant overt the Muslim lady demanding an unopened can of soda, Here is the message from facebook Nazis followed by the comment they banned me for:
__________________________________________
You’re Temporarily Blocked From Posting

This temporary block will last 24 hours, and you won’t be able to post on Facebook until it’s finished.

Please keep in mind that people who repeatedly post things that aren’t allowed on Facebook may have their accounts permanently disabled.

We removed the post below because it doesn’t follow the Facebook Community Standards:

“What you mean to say is “Thank you for capitulating to Islamic supremacism and supporting discrimination against your kafir flight attendant.” Because if you truly were against discrimination, you’d be against Qur’an and Muhammad.”
___________________________________________

jimbo
jimbo
8 years ago

Great performance yet again by the stoic, heroic, super wonder woman, Pamella Geller.

BIG BIG pity Hannity didnt allow more time. come on.. surely ppl want to hear this stuff. Pamella sat this guy on his stupid butt !!

not violent. yeah right Mr Imam, you blinded fool.

Islam is a religion of peace you know !! everybody ! peace, i said !! yeah right.

Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
8 years ago

Someone with blind faith who can give nothing but a kop-out answer when presented with the facts. “That’s a problem for those countries” yes and those countries are under the law of your religion which; funnily enough isn’t open to interpretation. The Quran says drinking apostasy isn’t allowed and is punishable by death, that’s non-negotiable.

Barb_R
Barb_R
8 years ago

Imam Aslam Abdullah: “Islam recognizes second amendment.”

That’s nice. Does Islam recognize the FIRST amendment?

mos
mos
8 years ago

so a black person who walks in a white bar is provokative in the obama usa?
bad for me, i wanted to visit usa for the first time and have to wait for 2017?

dr.aslamabdullah@gmail.com
8 years ago

All those who are insulting Islam and Muslims or Prophet Muhammad and ridiculing the Quran have a right to do what they believe. If God allowed Satan to survive and live and mislead people, who am I to stop anyone from ridiculing me or my faith or any other faith. People with these attitude have insulted Moses, Jesus, Abraham, Ishamil and Issac in the past. I would come down to their level by making fun of the Hebrew Bible or the New Testaments, even though the evidence against their authenticity and originality is in question from a logical, historical and scientific perspective. I would not insult Christians and Jews and I will condemn those who use violence to express their opposition to others. Because I know there are millions of Jews and Christians, much more than the ones who are expressing their views here, who are kind, compassionate, fair and who stand for justice. Because my faith also tells me not to insult the religious beliefs of others. I would invite you all to the mosque that i am attached with in Las Vegas. It is the Islamic Society of Nevada, 4730 East Desert Inn Road, Las Vegas, NV. You may hate me, my religion, my prophet and my belief system. But I would not hate you, make fun of you and reduce you to nothing. You are all the creation of one God with the same rights that I have to live and accept and reject whatever you may through your free will.Join me in spreading this message. There are many who hate, but there are only a few who promote love. You are disfiguring Jesus and making a mockery of all that Moses stood for.

Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
8 years ago

Imam Abdullah. We wish you to tell us more about islam. I have some questions for you. Please respond to all of them so I may learn more about islam.

1. How many people did mohamed kill himself, and how many people were killed by his followers who he ordered to have murdered.

2. How many cities did his army conquer during mohameds life, and what lands did muslims invade after mohamad died until now.

3. Where did mohamed get his slaves from? Were they only captives of the cities he conquered, caravans he raided, how many were bought slaves.

4. How many women did he rape from the cities that he conquered. How many of those were married women whom he had just murdered their husbands and fathers?

5. How many little girls did he rape? Was it just aisha (one of his dozen wifes) he raped at the age of 9? What was the youngest age of girl mohamed raped?

Extra Credit – Name 50 groups that the west considers terrorist organizations who themselves say they are guided by the teaching of mohamed and the koran.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

LMFAO.
I’ll eat my shirt, if he answers your comment.
The dude, is still trying to recover from the offense that he felt, by your comment.
Good questions though.
Cheers

Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

he replied. LIED to every question.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

I see.
Loved that one about Aisha being 19 or 21.
Which is it “almighty Muslim knowledgeable scholar 19 or 21?
Is there a doubt?

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

1. Prophet Muhammad did not kill any one. In the 23 years of his ministry, he was attacked 81 times and in those attacks 478 people were killed and some 280 were muslims. Those death aoccured in battle fields.
2. None, no city was invaded by him.

3.Prophet Muhammad freed all prisoners of wars and slaves that he was given in pre Islamic time.
4. Prophet Muhammad married several women who were orphans and widows. much less than many Biblical prophets whose scores are much higher.
5. The Prophet married Ayesha when she was 19 or 21. Read my articles on these subject on my blog aslamabdullah.blogspot.com.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Loved that 19 or 21 about Aisha, who once said “I have not seen women suffer more than the believing women”
A scholar such as yourself, should be sure of himself, was it 19 or 21?
Sorry mate, but you have exposed yourself as a FRAUD with this reply.
I do not waste time with internet trolls, so please do not waste anymore of my time, or your time, commenting on my comments.
I do NOT feed trolls.
Cheers and have a good life.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago

Thank you for your post Dr. Abdullah. I have sent you many replies to your earlier posts and I have yet to get a response. In regards to your post above, I would like to focus first on the following statement you made above:

“I would come down to their level by making fun of the Hebrew Bible or
the New Testaments, even though the evidence against their authenticity
and originality is in question from a logical, historical and scientific
perspective.”

Although you offer no evidence of support, if your statement is true, then it leads to the inescapable conclusion that Islam is false. Why? Because the Qur’an states that the Hebrew Bible (Torah) and the New Testament (or Injeel/Gospels) are the inspired (Surah 3:3-4), perfectly preserved (Surah 18:27), and authoritative (Surah 5:47, 68) word of Allah. If the scriptures of the “People of the Book” (with the “Book” being the Bible) have not been preserved, then Allah’s words have not been preserved as claimed by Surah 18:27, which makes the Qur’an false and in turn Islam false. On the other hand, if Surah 18:27 is true and the Bible is authentic and preserved, then the Qur’an is still false because the Bible, which is authoritative according to 5:47,68, contradicts the Qur’an, most notably on the Qur’an’s view of Allah (29:48) and its claim that Jesus was not crucified (4:157).

Now if telling the truth about what the Qur’an teaches is insulting to you, then I apologize, but I am certainly willing to hear your explanation as to why I am wrong. I suspect we agree that humans contain a spirit that will exist eternally and that the choices we make here on earth will determine whether we spend eternity in heaven or hell when our bodies die. Therefore, I will run the risk of insulting you by explaining why Islam is false and will not take you to heaven (paradise). In furtherance of that goal, I would suggest you turn to the Gospels and critically evaluate the evidence for why they are true. For me to do otherwise is the most unloving act I can think of, as I do not want to see anyone, especially you, spend eternity apart from God.

Thank you for reading. I look forward to your response.

Aslam Abdullah
Aslam Abdullah
8 years ago
Reply to  JustThinking

I was away for a meeting, hence could not read all of your ost and others posts. I would resopnd to them one by one. The Quran testifies that Moses, Jesus, Abraham and others were given the scriptures but their followers distorted them. Secondly, the Quran says that those who beleive in God must not ridicule others’ gods. Here is the Quranic verse. “6:108
Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides God, lest they out of
spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to
each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord,
and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.

JustThinking
JustThinking
8 years ago
Reply to  Aslam Abdullah

Thank you Dr. Abdullah. In regards to your statement, “[t]he Quran testifies that Moses, Jesus, Abraham and others were given the scriptures but their followers distorted them,” please provide the cites to the verse(s) that state(s) that.

In regards to your quote of 6:108, I gather that you won’t discuss Christianity or any other non-Islamic ideology with me on the basis it would be insulting to me. Am I correct? If so, I respect that. However, as far as I know, there is not a Qur’an verse that prohibits you from proselytizing to unbelievers. Therefore, I am interested in discussing Islam and hearing from you the evidence and logic for why you conclude it is true. I am open to being convinced. Please start by explaining how I have misinterpreted and incorrectly analyzed the verses I used above, i.e. 3:3-4; 18:27, and 5:47, 68, to conclude that Islam is false. Since, according to the Qur’an, Jesus’ disciples, like Jesus, were Muslims too, please explain why Allah deceived them by making it appear that Jesus was crucified, thus leading them astray and starting the Christian religion, which I assume you believe is false.

Thank you again, Dr. Abdullah. I look forward to your response.

on my out of Saudi
on my out of Saudi
8 years ago

Another loss for the pig muslims. He has zero justification for the verses of the filthy koran.

Nicetime
Nicetime
8 years ago

I have some sympathy with what Pam Geller is trying to do, but both she and Hannity were very rude to the Imam. He was constantly interrupted and not allowed to make his point. What Hannity does makes it difficult to rationally defend Fox. I loathe the left but he uses the same tactics of barracking his guests and trying to manipulate them into answering selective and largely meaningless questions. Imam Abdullah came across like a well meaning, compassionate and interesting human being. Neither Geller nor Hannity came out of this well, but I doubt it will bother them

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