Watch VIDEO: CNN’s Alisyn Camerota Cross-Examines Defendant Pamela Geller

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Cognitive dissonance in action. Yes, freedom of speech, but ….

Pamela Geller Battles CNN Host over Garland Shooting: Why Is Media ‘Targeting’ Us?
(Mediaite) Hours after a shooting at a Muhammed cartoon event Garland, Texas that left three dead, including the gunmen, the event’s sponsor and American Freedom Defense Initiative president Pamela Geller battled CNN’s Alisyn Camerota over whether the incendiary event had provoked violence.

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“Increasingly, we’re abridging our freedoms so as not to offend savages,” Geller alleged. “The very idea that if something offends me, or I’m insulted by something I’ll kill you and somehow this is okay with members of the elite media, and academia, is outrageous.”

Camerota read from the keynote speech given at the event disparaging Islam. Geller has made a career of warning of the “Islamization” of America; the Southern Poverty Law Center lists her as an extremist.

“He’s entitled to his opinion, end of story,” Geller said. “So what? So he said that. And frankly, what he said was true…The fact is that we need to have this discussion, there’s a problem in Islam.”

The conversation devolved into whether Geller had ever called Muslims “savages,” which she said she had done once in her life. She argued she criticized only Muslims who kill over their beliefs. “I am anti-jihad, I am anti-Sharia,” Geller said. “You, by spaying I paint with a broad brush, are saying all Muslims support jihad. Alisyn you sound very Islamaphobic.” It was that type of segment.

“The fact that we have to spend upwards of $50,000 in security speaks to how dangerous and how in trouble freedom of speech is in this country,” Geller said. “And then we have to get on these news shows, and somehow we are, those that are targeted, those that were going to be slaughtered, are the ones who get attacked speaks to how morally inverted this conversation is.”

“This is not an attack,” Camerota replied, pointing out that they were at that moment having the exact conversation over speech and piety Geller had been calling for.

Garland Shooting: Elton Simpson is Suspect in Attack at Muhammad Carton Drawing in Texas |VIDEO
One of the suspects in the shooting in Garland, Texas, late Sunday has been identified as Elton Simpson, an Arizona man who was previously the subject of a terror investigation, according to a senior FBI official.
(ABC News) Overnight and today FBI agents and a bomb squad were at Simpson’s home in an apartment complex in north Phoenix where a robot is believed to be conducting an initial search of the apartment.

Officials believe Simpson is the person who sent out several Twitter messages prior to the attack on Sunday, in the last one using the hashtag #TexasAttack about half an hour before the shooting.

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Commieobamie
Commieobamie
8 years ago

Way to go PAM! You burned her a new obamahole.

Proud Kafir
Proud Kafir
8 years ago
Reply to  Commieobamie

Alisyn got thrashed in a debate completly in less than few minutes….I had a good laugh at Alisyn’s islm knowledge….If she wants to see humorous Moslms, I suggest her to go to Moslm majority nations (Saudi, Pakistan, Afganistan, etc) & crack a joke on last Puppet & see humor before she looses her head !!

walt
walt
8 years ago
Reply to  Proud Kafir

I would only hope that we can all speak like Pamela when faced with supporters of this demonic ideology

Rick
Rick
8 years ago
Reply to  Proud Kafir

I wonder why Alisyn went over to CNN. She did a pretty good job on Fox. I’m guessing it’s all about money.

Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
8 years ago

Typical leftist media; picking out things they want to highlight and taking them out of context. Geert Wilders was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini who said “there is no humour in Islam” which is a very famous quote. “Are you saying Muslims don’t have a sense of humour?” Clearly not. Moron.

Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen
8 years ago

Good point that should be repeated often.
Pamela is not the origin of these quotes. Mozlem leaders are the origin of the quote. Pamela is repeating what they say. Would you call the ayotala an izlamophobe?

We should not need to congratulate mozlems who think the ayatola is an extremist when he calls to wipe out Israel. We should be able to repeat what the ayatola said without being called islamophobe ourselves, if they will not say the origin of the quote is an izlamphobe.

Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
8 years ago
Reply to  Honest Citizen

Of course the Ayatollah isn’t an Islamophobe; he was an Islamist in every sense of the word.
We have a world of people like this reporter who are not intelligent yet are in positions where they’re spouting shit to the public who believe them; because criticizing an ideology is apparently no different to criticizing people personally.
Where do Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer & Geert Wilders get these quotes from? Where do Islamists get the ideas for their actions from? Anyone would think it was all written in a book.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

And that goes to show just how childish that whole commentary was. A sense of humour??? It’s insulting to say islam has no sense of humour??? Wow…they have NOTHING else to report. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Now, you can’t even express the blandest of opinions.

Any muslims who have a sense of humor are on the terrorist death list. Get real.

JacktheRipper
JacktheRipper
8 years ago

Yes, apparently its grave insult to tell muslims they have no sense of humor. It’s way up there with cartoons and short pants! The pansy media always try and tap dance around the real issue of islam’s murderous agenda. They scramble desperately to look for the tiniest speck of dirt they can find on the islamophobes. “What! you said muslims have no sense of humor?! and you don’t find that to be an egregious violation of their right to exist? their right to murder and rape innocents? WOW!”

They’re nuts. The media, the politicians, all of them–NUTS.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  JacktheRipper

Islamonuts, I think…..

chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

Disgraceful enemy collaborator Bob Baer says the root cause was “clearly the depiction of the prophet — that is a clear red line.”
obama couldn’t have said it any better.
Who talks like that but a muslim?
Then Bob Baer reiterated his rhetorical jihad saying the legal sale of firearms in Texas and the United States was a key component in the crime.
How does a guy who chills in Telluride and Newport Beach and blames the First Amendment and the Second Amendment in that order for the savagery of islam become a CIA agent and enemy propagandist on CNN?

Kat
Kat
8 years ago
Reply to  chris wolf

I read his book about 9 years ago, and ne sounded totally different. He used to appear on Hannity all the time!

sandra schmidt
sandra schmidt
8 years ago
Reply to  Kat

Islamic money buys a lot of traitors.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago
Reply to  sandra schmidt

Wow, is THAT what did it? 🙁

sandra schmidt
sandra schmidt
8 years ago
Reply to  Kat

Saudi money has bought entire departments of our universities. Without a watchdog media, the extent of their ownership of corporate America is hidden. I have heard there is some Saudi ownership of Fox.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago
Reply to  sandra schmidt

You are right about Fox, but Baer? When did Baer get bought off? He used to be very anti-Islam!

Southern Logic
Southern Logic
8 years ago

You cant fix stupid. There is a reason she works for CNN. Great Job PAM!!!

Kat
Kat
8 years ago
Reply to  Southern Logic

Camerota never sounded THAT stupid when she was on Fox. I wonder which is the “real” Camerota?

Crystal Waters
Crystal Waters
8 years ago

Sharp and classy the morning after someone tries to kill you. Way to go.

vlparker
vlparker
8 years ago

Pam, you are doing a tremendous job. I noticed Miss Camerota didn’t quote anything from Bosch Fawstin’s speech about the sickness in all muslims, even the non-violent ones.

Her condemnation of Geert Wilders shows just how much these lefties hate the truth. Our culture is far superior to islamic culture and if Miss Camerota doesn’t think so I suggest she go and live in Iran, the IS or Saudi Arabia for a year.

I’m extremely relieved you are all safe.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  vlparker

Exactly what I suggest. And yeah…why no comment on Bosch Fawstin’s speech? I’ll tell you why…she’s trying to be PC. They’ve probably declared over at CNN that he’s another islamophobe.

jstan442
jstan442
8 years ago

cannot beleive alison was such an idiot–is she a low info voter or an idealogue?

burt
burt
8 years ago
Reply to  jstan442

No, just another Marie Harf.

JacktheRipper
JacktheRipper
8 years ago

When are these dhimmis going to learn, Pamela Geller cannot not be defeated by islamic apologetics. She is too intelligent, rational, and well-meaning to be stymied by the absurd and irrational objections of weak-willed pansies who argue in defense of islam’s assault on individual liberty and free speech. Any such “debate” is nothing more than a feeble attempt by one side to defend the indefensible. The only debate we true Americans should be having is how are we going to get rid of these fascists without a civil war. That’s what we should be talking about here.

Bless you Pamella for your good work! and thanks Geert Wilders too, and Robert Spencer, and anyone else who is on the side of freedom and reason over islamic tyranny and ignorance!

hurricanepaul
hurricanepaul
8 years ago

I still say, people are really missing the point.
It’s the so-called “peaceful Muslims” who “hijacked Islam”.
“Real Islam” is all about “jihad”.
Everything was “fine and dandy” with the Jihadists until a group of whacko Muslims wanted to be “peaceful”.
The “peaceful Muslims” ruined it for the Jihadist Muslims.
And now, 700 years later, the “real Muslims” want their old-school, jihadist religion back.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

Well said, HP!

hurricanepaul
hurricanepaul
8 years ago

And it’s really annoying that the talking heads on CNN or MSNBC insist on saying “the prophet Mohammad”, not just “Mohammad”.]
Do they refer to Jesus as “our lord and savior Jesus”?
Nope.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

Exactly! Why don’t they convert to islam since they respect that shit more than Christianity or any bona fide religion?

karldisher
karldisher
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

I noticed that. Obama does that too. What a bunch of pussies.

walt
walt
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

Thats ok one day they will stand before the only One who has power to give eternal life or destroy both soul and body in hell (the grave)

rodguy911
rodguy911
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

They just do whatever president Jarrett tells them to do.

Alex
Alex
8 years ago
Reply to  rodguy911

Why are you all so concerned about Muslims they have never bothed me.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Alex

They may fairly soon.

Alex
Alex
8 years ago

In what way? No more concerning then any other religion of faith.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Actually “muslims” are not the subject matter. “Islamists” are the subject matter. Hopefully the people you are talking about are “muslims”… Not islamists. But if people don’t start getting their heads out of their asses you may start seeing a sharp distinction pretty soon.

Charlie
Charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Because Christians, Buddhists, Sikh’s, Hindu’s, etc are out killing people over a cartoon? Talk about intellectually dishonest.

Alex
Alex
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie

Well they might not be killing each other over cartoons but have killed each other over other things since the dawn time. We in the west have recently killed a hell a lot more of them then they have killed us! Makes the whole cartoon thing look a little insignificant to me and I am sure to them. Anyway why all of a sudden have you Americans become such great defenders of the French! Remember Freedom Fries ! Lol

Charlie
Charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Alex

I remember the Freedom Fries. It was stupid. What is your point? Is calling a fried potato Freedom Fries somehow the moral equivalent of ISIS using “honeypots” to attract gay men to throw off buildings in their barbaric displays of love, peace, and unity. Anyone who brings up a ridiculous argument of “freedom fries” is someone that has no intention of having an honest conversation and I don’t indulge childish people for the sake listening to their inconsequential and illogical arguments.

Charlie
Charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Alex

As long as they haven’t “bothed” (what is that anyway) you, you are okay with them trying to murder people who draw a cartoon? DRAW, not maim, kill, enslave, torture, set on fire, behead, but DRAW a picture. Says a lot about the type of person you are Alex. BTW, there is nothing in the Koran saying it is wrong to draw Mohammed, it was a new rule the Taliban created in 2001. It would be as if one faction of Christianity decided today that it is no longer acceptable to draw a picture of Jesus and then began murdering anyone who did so. I’m sure the media would whole-heartedly back up those attacks/murders because the person who DREW the picture was somehow inviting their own murder.

Alex
Alex
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie

Charlie my friend I’m not ok with anybody been murdered and you would have not a clue as to what sort of person I am. Also when have you become such an expert on the quran and its teachings sounds like you’re still swinging around rumour and innuendo in regards to what muslims can and can’t do in thier faith. Keep your nose buried in your own fairy tale mr hebdo.

Charlie
Charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Alex my dear, as you suggested I don’t know you and you sure as hell don’t know me. You have NO idea how educated I am on the Koran. “Mr. Hebdo”, this is the 2nd time you have shown “who you are”.

Seraphina Cagna Malandrina
Seraphina Cagna Malandrina
8 years ago
Reply to  hurricanepaul

I think the reason they do that is to accentuate the point that Mohammad is NOT God. He is just a prophet. Like the Jews, Muslims do not believe the Messiah has arrived yet. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
8 years ago

The Religion of Peace.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

The religion of pieces of shit.

Rick
Rick
8 years ago

Or one big turd.

JacktheRipper
JacktheRipper
8 years ago

Funny! bad sadly, so true.

Islam is like a real-life version of Halloween without the candy. Severed heads and goblins dressed in black. What muddy pond did these freaks evolve from?

Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
Apu Nahasapasapeemapetalon
8 years ago
Reply to  JacktheRipper

They evolved?

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

He probably means de-evolved.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago
Reply to  JacktheRipper

Was it that ‘hot muddy pool’ where the sun sets, according to the Koran??

JacktheRipper
JacktheRipper
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

haha! could be!

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

Another simultaneously cute but kind of “gross” cartoon…. Heh….

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

Another news reporter acting her hair color. More worried about peaceful muslims that terrorists. How does she think the contest started in the FIRST place???

Hey dipso-blondo, the contest was a middle finger to the Charlie Hebdo murderers.

It’s too bad Pam didn’t ask her why, if she wanted to stick up for muslims so much, she didn’t convert to islam. Honestly, if people want to stick up for muslims so much, I’d like to see them get on national TV and explain why THEY aren’t converting to islam! Let’s see if they have the GUTS to say they don’t believe in it on TV. Let’s see how long they’ll be sticking up for “muslims” after that.

Sam Brees
Sam Brees
8 years ago

Alisyn did a great job in that interview.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  Sam Brees

Yeah…she did a great job of making herself look like an islamophobe and a dingbat and a whiner.

jimbo
jimbo
8 years ago

well done Pamella !! excellent interview by you. and you got like 13.5 minutes of coverage !! ha. the islamic barbarians are gaining more and more media attention.

idea : Pam, run a Muhammad cartoon contest EVERY single MONTH. dangerous sure. but the barbaric murderous death cult followers will try more attempts and fail and this will just bring their supremacist ideology to the fore and expose it for all to see !!

woo hoo.l Go Pamela

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  jimbo

Great idea! She should post an entry on her website every month!

chris wolf
chris wolf
8 years ago

You where beating your head against a much harder brick wall talking to FOX News’ Kelly Wright, who just kept asking the same question — But do you have to be so mean to the poor muslims? — over and over, completely failing to get the point.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  chris wolf

That’s because the PC crowd is stupid and “islamophobic”.

Fred Smith
Fred Smith
8 years ago

“The term “moderate Islam” is offensive. There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam.”
Turkish Prime Minister ~ Recep Erdogan ~
So Elton Simpson and friends were acting as all true Muslims should act. Nothing extreme about him.

Michael Nuyen
Michael Nuyen
8 years ago

Free and endangered is always better than enslaved,silenced, and safe. Go Pamela!
Alison is obviously frightened to speak free without offending someone.
Alisyn, the only fine line between freedom of speech and provocation, is the imaginary line in heads of freedom haters and chicken shits.

topperj
topperj
8 years ago

There are useful idiots all over the networks. Geller does not suffer fools. More power to her.

Euro2000
Euro2000
8 years ago

That was handled well!!

Love the ending – speak to the US public – the reporter is secondary!!

CNN gets a lot of its ad money from the Middle East – it might be that they find themselves in a compromising position!!

::

When it comes to free expression – it is not only who decides – but where does it end. Where do the boundaries lie? Look at the Islamic world – the wrong haircut might get you killed. The whole of Saudi Arabian female population dress in only black [under 45 degree desert sun] because any other color might be deemed offensive. These offenses conform to the Islamic order and have nothing to do with what we believe.

::

Yes, the attendees of this rally survived within a few inches of their lives – thanks to the heroic action of the Texas SWAT team!!

Thank god for the laws – that protect Constitutional freedoms. But this interview demonstrates how easily the justification can be found to remove these – and in exchange for – what they have in Saudi Arabia, in Pakistan, in Egypt? In fact there is nothing in the Islamic world – today – that they have that is worth trading in our freedoms for.

RCCA
RCCA
8 years ago

An excellent interview. Alisyn simply channels the liberal mindset. For example, the top comment at Huffington Post:

“William Tripp · Top Commenter · Cook at Some restaurant
I just don’t understand. When Muslims say that cartoons of their prophet offend them, why go to such lengths to intentionally offend then? I’m all for freedom of speech, but it just seems like a matter of respect to not make fun of someone a few billion people consider sacred..
Reply · · 564 · 16 hours ago”

I hope people wake up and realize there is a problem in the teachings of Islam and the solution is not the rest of us walking on eggshells.

RCC
RCC
8 years ago
Reply to  RCCA

It’s funny, but I cannot find a copy of the entire interview. Lucky I was in a waiting room when it came on or else never would of seen it. The interview ended with Alysin conceding (agreeing) to Ms. Geller.

MajorWoody
MajorWoody
8 years ago

Thank you Pam for all that you do. Keep fighting the good fight.

RCC
RCC
8 years ago
Reply to  MajorWoody

Quite a contrast to that Seattle reporter who went into hiding rather than walk her talk. The extremists would not dare to kill Ms. Geller lest they martyr her with 72 copies of the United States Constitution.

MajorWoody
MajorWoody
8 years ago

It is a joyous day. Two Muslim extremists are dead. Praise Allah!!!

Mundus
Mundus
8 years ago

See what Obama is saying. you can post it, now, before he changes his mind.
I think, it’s at Washington Examiner.

RCC
RCC
8 years ago
Reply to  Mundus

Here is Josh’s statement: “There is no act of expression, even if it’s offensive, that justifies an act of violence,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Air Force One Monday.

“We have seen extremists try to use expressions that they considered to be offensive as a way to justify violence not only in this country but around the world, and in the mind of the president there is no form of expression that would justify an act of violence.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-offensive-content-doesnt-justify-texas-shootings/article/2563959

Mundus
Mundus
8 years ago
Reply to  RCC

Thank you, for posting the quote, RCC. I wonder, if the ‘mind’ of the President will see , or hear, what Josh says, and discovers Josh was looking into the wrong mind…

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

Congrats, Pamela! For an entire hour this afternoon, Rush Limbaugh talked about what you did!

Brian Hockersmith
Brian Hockersmith
8 years ago

CNN good grief what a joke well done Pamela and the statement you made about now the country can indeed see there is a huge problem in Islam is so very true happy everyone was unharmed you are a champion of freedom and for that I thank you. God bless you and America.

drsmith123
drsmith123
8 years ago

Pamela for president. She is the only one standing up for our freedoms.

RalphB
RalphB
8 years ago

Before and after.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Do you remember the days of the pay phone?
This interview reminded me of those days.
Back then, you would out in a coin, and maybe there would be a connection.
If there wasn’t a connection, you would put in another coin, and hope for a connection.
Sometimes, it took many coins to fall into the phone, before there was finally a connection.
Pamela keeps feeding the phone, in this case Alysin Camerota coins, but being from the MSM, is failing to make the connection.
Pamela is talking to a “dead line” who is not capable of making the connection.
What will it take for these MSM morons, to make the connection?
Apparently 9/11 wasn’t BIG enough.

Marlboro Man
Marlboro Man
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Good analogy.
It is maddening to watch idiots like Camerota who are so bigoted and obtuse that they can’t see the truth. It’s sickening but the really sickening part is that, as stupid as she is, she probably has far greater intelligence than most people on the left. This is not going to end well.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago
Reply to  Marlboro Man

It sure isn’t going to end well, when the proponents of free speech, are accused of being at fault for pious Muslim violence.
Camerota gives a free pass to the perpetrators of violence, and accuses the non-violent defenders of free speech, of being responsible for the attempted violence against them.
PERVERSE, is the only word that comes to my mind, PERVERSE.
Never, does this CNN dolt, ever say anything about an ideology, that, according to it’s blessed Sharia law, declares a “death’ sentence on anyone, who speaks out against Islam and it’s brutal, rights denying Sharia law.
PERVERSE

cmh
cmh
8 years ago

Pam, here is an important point regarding unethical media attacks related to your event…
What I find most disturbing today (the day after) is the media’s constant use of the word bigot in application to Geller et al. According to the numerous dictionary’s I have perused, the word ‘bigot’ applies to people who irrationally, intolerantly, and unfairly show dislike….. So this word ‘bigot’ really applies to Muslims, not to Geller. It is not irrational to be against jihad and an ideology of hate and murder. These media people appear to not even have a grasp of meanings of English words that they publish. These smears are totally false and in no way represent journalism. Please let them know they are misrepresenting the word bigot next time you are confronted and let them find a way out of it.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  cmh

Your dictionary definition leaves out quite a bit

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

burt
burt
8 years ago

Communist media is predictable

J. Neville Groff
J. Neville Groff
8 years ago

That interview was masterful.
Thank you Pamela Geller.
New American Hero!

Susan Robbins
Susan Robbins
8 years ago

Pamela, you have never been more brilliant than in that interview. You made every point perfectly. Congrats to you. I think that you may have given her a new perspective on freedom of speech. She often looked like she was really listening and not listening to the voice in her ear. Really, brilliant.

It Will Never Be Right
It Will Never Be Right
8 years ago

A big high-five to you Pam. Thank you.

Commieobamie
Commieobamie
8 years ago

I had to come back and comment again. All of the sites and comments all day just can’t compete. Pamela, what you said and did on that show would have made ALL of the Founding Fathers of these United States stand up cheer and give a 20 minute Standing Ovation. You accurately and articulately burned every commie and anti-American word that came out of that obama lover’s mouth. Even when her degrading statements made you visibly cringe and I could see your RIGHTEOUS anger, you kept your cool and burnt her a new one. that was AWESOME!!!
No, I am too passionate (as portrayed by my excruciating un-PC words and hate of EVIL) to be a statesman/woman as you truly are.
But…. I will not stop calling em the way I see em.
GOD BLESS YOU and your work.

John Flanagan
John Flanagan
8 years ago

Ok, my new dreaded nightmare is that I am in a verbal dispute with Pam Geller. It is one thing to lose an argument, but to have them handed to you with disdain afterwards? Inglorious and humiliating.
“Them”, of course refers to what she metaphorically severed. Ouch!

ApolloSpeaks
ApolloSpeaks
8 years ago

HOW DARE PAM GELLER

and AFDI defy President Obama’s Moslem Outreach Initiative and slander thousands of times over (since his US/Islam reconciliation speech in Cairo) the lawless, immoral, murdering, torturing, rapping, looting, pedophile, Jew-hating Prophet of Islam. This hate driven woman is truly despicable, and is ruining things for the President while angering millions of Moslems who regard the Prophet as higher than the angels and the closest creature to God./sarc

http://www.apollospeaks.com

Peggy
Peggy
8 years ago

It’s unacceptable that the victims have to justify their actions. It’s like saying that if only she didn’t wear the mini skirt she would not have been raped.
Also so fed up with people defending Islam saying that not all Muslims are violent. Sharia Law comes from Islam and that is very violent. You cannot separate the two and say Sharia is violent and Islam isn’t.

Ganesha_akbar
Ganesha_akbar
8 years ago
Reply to  Peggy

Point well taken. For her next interview, creepy Camerota should grill Lara Logan again on her decision to forgo the burkha before her public rape in Cairo…all while protecting her attackers by blurring their images.
http://img2-azcdn.newser.com/image/796549-6-20110216090821-journo-lara-logan-assault-would-have-been-funny-if.jpeg

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Ganesha_akbar

While they were attacking her they were also yelling Yahud, Yahud, because pi$$lam respects people of the book.

Lisa
Lisa
8 years ago

I love you Pamela, later on throughout history people will look back on your stance of the 1st amendment, and freedom of speech realize how right you were, and are. Keep up the good work.

Ganesha_akbar
Ganesha_akbar
8 years ago

It. Never. Stops.

CNN: ‘A gentle person’
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/

Members of the mosque Simpson once regularly attended, the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, are in shock about what happened, said its president, Usama Shami.

Simpson was a regular worshiper at the mosque until around 2010 or 2011, about the time the FBI arrested him on the false statement charges.

During that time, he offered no signal that he held radical views, Shami said.

“He was a gentle person,” Shami said of Simpson. “He always had a good attitude, a good demeanor.”
https://twitter.com/ImamZia/status/595053645600686080

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago
Reply to  Ganesha_akbar

The Crescent News Network would have us believing ISIS is nothing but a bunch of lone wolves. CNN is nothing more than Al Jizyeera light.

Richard The Lionheart
Richard The Lionheart
8 years ago

ISIS and Al-Quaeda are “Kharajites.” Those were 7th century Muslims
declared to be apostates by Islam, very early on. From that “source of
sources,” Wikipedia:

“Kharijites (Arabic: خوارج Khawārij, literally “those who went out”;[1] singular, Khārijī ) is a general term describing various Muslims who, while initially supporting the
authority of the final Rashidun Caliph Ali ibn Abi Talib, the son-in-law and cousin of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, then later rejected his leadership. They first emerged in the late 7th century, concentrated in today’s southern Iraq, and are distinct from Sunni Muslims and Shi’a Muslims. With the passing of time the Kharijite groups fell greatly in their numbers and their beliefs did not continue to gain any traction in future generations.

“From their essentially political position, the Kharijites developed extreme doctrines that further set them apart from both mainstream Sunni and Shiʿa Muslims. The Kharijites were particularly noted for adopting a radical approach to Takfir, whereby they declared other Muslims to be unbelievers and therefore deemed them worthy of death. The Kharijites were also known historically as the Shurāh (الشُراة),[A]
literally meaning “the buyers” and understood within the context of Islamic scripture and philosophy to mean “those who have traded the mortal life (al-Dunya) for the other life [with God] (al-Aakhirah)”, which, unlike the term Kharijite, was one that many Kharijites used to describe themselves.”

Ganesha_akbar
Ganesha_akbar
8 years ago

And the disgusting enemedia poltroon attacks continue over at The Atlantic;
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/05/a-terror-attack-in-texas/392288/

“The event was hosted by anti-Islam activist Pamela Geller, once labeled a “clinical paranoid” and a “wildly prejudiced person” by The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, and featured a speech by the anti-Islam Dutch politician Geert Wilders.”

Oh the magisterial objectivity!

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Ganesha_akbar

Oh you poor thing. Did someone hurt Pam Gellar’s fee-fees? Tough. Last I checked, freedom of speech goes both ways. You only want it to be a one way street in favor of your prejudicial beliefs. For shame.

Subvet
Subvet
8 years ago

So where were all these loons when “Piss Christ” was in the news? Oh wait, I remember now, Christians were told STFU if we didn’t like having our beliefs mocked by an “artist” submerging a crucifix in a jar of his urine. Some animals are more equal than others. Got it!

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Subvet

I remember all those Christians, the same ones who demanded censorship of the art

Subvet
Subvet
8 years ago

…and got nowhere with it

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Subvet

And yet still maintain your tacit support

Subvet
Subvet
8 years ago

You seem to miss my point so let me restate it. The talking heads will ridicule a religious group they know won’t get violent. However what we’re now seeing in instances such as the referenced interview are verbal attacks not on the perpetrators of violence but upon those practicing free speech of the same sort once championed by the media

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Subvet

You seem to miss mine. There is a fundamental and distinct difference in the nature and intent of the ridicule here which deserves far closer scrutiny than things like Piss Christ. You act like they are one and the same. They are not in any way, shape or form.

Subvet
Subvet
8 years ago

Okay, exactly what is the difference? Both involve ridicule of someone’s beliefs, one was answered with nonviolent protests and ridiculed by the MSM, the other was answered last night with violence which we now see condoned by that same media. According to you, what am I missing?

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Subvet

Intent is a huge fundamental difference. Ridicule in itself is not harmful so long as it isn’t imposing a message that the targets of ridicule are fundamentally undeserving of human dignity. This is where Gellar and Wilders et. al. on this board routinely cross the line over and over, and in that sense, I can understand (although NOT condone) a violent response. People like her don’t ridicule Islam as a means of reform. They do so as a justification for persecution and hate. Piss Christ doesn’t do anything close to that. In fact, I actually found Piss Christ to be rather beautiful when photographed in certain lights, but for those who wish to be offended, eh, c’est la vie, they wished to read differently. Nobody is under any illusion that last night’s event was intended for anything other than insulting Muslims and Islam en toto. If I say all Christians are c&&ts, I’m not uttering a withering critical examination of the religion. I’m just saying a cheap slur. Last night was exactly the same. Everyone here suggesting otherwise is lying to themselves and others.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Again, you have the right to your opinion, and interpretation.
Actual quotes of calls to violence, you have none.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

No, she is smart enough to avoid giving herself the Scarlet Letter. But her intent is clear and so is the the reaction of her fans who routinely slander all Muslims and all Islam as if both are universally unacceptable, violent or not. You have all committed yourselves to a jihad of your own, and that is one of purging Islam from the world. You may delude yourself into thinking this can be accomplished intellectually alone, but I am smart enough to see the end result of your line of thinking, which means if persuasion can’t be successful, then force will be acceptable. Until you categorically reject a genocide against people who identify as Muslim, I stand by every word I state.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

See my comment about locked disqus.
No use repeating myself.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I’ve had far, far too many experiences where stalkers, such as yourself, sought to divine personal details about me non-germane to my comment through my commenting history to fall for the open history canard. You will find most, but not all, liberals don’t resort to such stalking tactics. It speaks volumes about your character that you feel deprived of some fundamental liberty by my due exercise of a right to privacy. I don’t even know if “bill reitzes” is your real name, nor do I even care, nor would I EVER think to look you up so as to divert the conversation into a personal referendum on your character.

But YOU did. You wanted to avoid the issues and make this an attack on a single person for daring to speak up. You are far more an enemy of freedom of speech than anyone who would threaten Pamela Gellar.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

I’m an open book, like Pamela, and we are not trying to hide anything.
You?
Your explanation about privacy is weak, as no one here is threatening you, one iota.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

No one here, perhaps (until you), but I have had several posters in the past unfortunately threaten to look up my real name AND ADDRESS which I consider a mortal threat to my life regardless if they express an actual threat or not. I’m far too familiar with the habits of the far right to take a chance on some idiot thinking they are exerting righteous retribution by sending me death threats or worse, coming to my house to actually threaten me.

In the meantime, you would think my past history would be irrelevant to you in the context of a present debate. But for some reason, you want to turn this around as an attack on my person as opposed to debating my ideas. This is how the far right operates. They will do ANYTHING to avoid an actual conversation on the issues, much as you have here. Coward. You are a coward.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Trying to hide something there Billy Bob, or is it Ahmed, or whatever?

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Yep, trying to hide my address from STALKERS LIKE YOU

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

He’s calling you a coward but he’s trying to hide his address. Heh… Isn’t that rich….

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

LOL

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

LOL, a musswein mentioning the scarlet letter of adultery. How ironic considering women are stoned to death for adultery in musswein states in the here and now.

disqus_HlH4Faibhw
disqus_HlH4Faibhw
8 years ago

So you like piss Christ. Based on YOUR opinion, it’s “beautiful” and not “undeserving of dignity”. Well that is STRICTLY YOUR OPINION. In exactly the same way, I and many others found many of the cartoons cute or “beautiful”. And just WHO are you defining as the “target” in these cartoons?? And who are you defining as the “target” in piss Christ? Christ dipped in human waste is NOT dignity. Muhammad??? He didn’t even deserve the attention he got. So what you REALLY mean is YOUR tastes are more worthy than OTHERS.

And no one here cares what MUSLIMS think. They simply aren’t important. Just like no one cares what Christians or anyone else thinks. If you think the cartoons were anything other than a response to murders of other cartoonists YOU’RE kidding YOURSELF.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

How many people were killed again over Piss Christ?

joker
joker
8 years ago

There is only one answer for the muzzies:

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago

Naturally it isn’t good enough for Pamela Gellar to have dozens of Muslim leaders support her RIGHT to have this contest. She has to get in an additional jab at them for daring to DISAGREE with the content and character of her speech. In essence, she is doing ironically exactly what she accuses Muslims of doing, demanding complete submission, surrender, total acceptance of everything she believes, does and thinks even to the point where people lose their fundamental right to practice their faith. Gellar isn’t supporting freedom of speech. She is advocating for holy war against Islam and all those who practice it, regardless of whether their actions are indicative of extremism or not. THAT is the true extremism, demanding extermination of a group of people on the basis of shared identity.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

All your strawman needs is a brain.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Not at all.
She has clearly stated, that she has nothing against Muslims.
She has clearly stated that she opposes violent jihad, as seen in last nights attack, and that brutal rights denying Sharia law, that was the basis for last nights attack.
I, happen to agree with her, 100%, and I’m sure that 90%+ of Americans do too.
How about you?

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

“She has clearly stated, that she has nothing against Muslims.”

She is a Goddamned amoral liar by stating that. I have never once read a single word of hers respecting the right of Muslims to even BE Muslim. She has “nothing against Muslims” in the same way a plantation owner in the 19th century had “nothing against blacks”. She just sees them as subhuman ingrates who are either naively mislead (e.g. Innocence of Muslims) or alternatively the epitome of all that is evil who need to be converted or exterminated. I have seen zero indication from any of her comments that this differs from my interpretation.

You say she opposes “violent jihad”. This is yet again a clearcut example of the mendacity of her followers as well as her. She never used the qualifier “violent”. She just says “jihad”, and she does it again, and again, and again, as if there is no other interpretation of the word jihad except to mean violent terrorism, which is a flat out lie.

I oppose violent extremism which is exactly why I oppose everything this woman stands for, because she is only a few short steps away from stating we should engage in a good old fashioned cleansing of all Muslims unless they surrender their beliefs.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

This of course, is your opinion, and you have the right to it.
Never, has this woman ever called for a cleansing of Muslims from this world.
This is your interpretation of her words, and again, you have the right to hear what you want.
I hear different, which of course is my right.
As you know, jihad has different forms, and she is against the “violent” path of jihad.
Again, I have been following her for a few years, and perhaps, you would like to give a few quotes of hers, where she calls for the “culling” of Muslims.
Or, are you reading into her words, an interpretation to suit your cause?
I see that you avoided the Sharia question, which was the basis for last night’s pious Muslim terror attack.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

She never differentiates between “violent” jihad and jihad in general. She promotes the view that they are one and the same. Speaking of putting words into people’s mouths….

But as far as cleansing Muslims, she may be smart enough not to delegitimize herself to this extent, but there is literally not a single quote of hers you can post respecting the rights of Muslims to first and foremost be Muslim and be respected by the broader community. Not a single one. Prove me wrong.

I don’t get into discussions about Sharia in general because there are MANY different interpretations of what Sharia entails, very few of which apply to non-Muslims, but whatevs. Like you care. Never mind the fact that with barely 1% of the population, it is a literal IMPOSSIBILITY for Sharia Law to happen in America. Has that stopped your unbridled fear of the bogeyman? No. That is bigotry and nothing less, fear and hatred of a populace that poses literally zero threat to you and yours. How many Islamic laws have you been forced to follow recently? I’m going to go out on a limb and say zero.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

I was actually disgusted the other day, when I discovered that a fresh cooked chicken that I bought, was Halal, which is “opps” slaughtered according to Islamic law.
The chicken was not labelled halal, and it almost made me puke, to think that someone prayed that “allah uahkbar” stuff over the chicken that was in my mouth.
Just saying.
Again, there are only your interpretations of Pamela’s words, but no quotes.
Usual nonsense and slanders from her detractors.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

It really goes to show how far down the anti-Islamic rabbit hole you have fallen when the very mention of the word “halal” encourages disgust from you. Do you have the same reaction when you eat kosher beef? Somehow I doubt it.

I mean, how childish do you have to be to consider religious observance alone to be offensive? Was there anything else about the meat being slaughtered in halal fashion which affected your enjoyment of the product? No. But just the very nature of a prayer, let me reiterate, a prayer, not the slaughter method, not the quality of the meat, not the way the animal was raised, but only a few words said at one choice time “ruined” your enjoyment of the product. Sakes alive.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

It’s that allah uahkbar stuff, that turns me off.
All I can see in my mind when I hear allah uahkbar, are those videos of the atrocities, which are actually forms of worship, that are done in the moon god allah’s name.
Kind of disgusts me.
How about you?
Do you get off watching that form of worship to the moon god allah?

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Well, that’s just stupid because allahu akbar simply means “god is great”, same as any Christian exclaiming in the name of God would.

I would also think it stupid to condemn all of Christianity on the basis of Scott Roeder’s murderous actions in the name of God, but you are apparently not so discerning. If a Muslim pulling a child out of a burning building exclaimed “Allahu akbar”, would you also be disgusted?

Point being, context matters, and the notion that saying a prayer over meat equals support for terrorism is idiocy writ large, and what is worse, I think you are smart enough to know that.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

From where I come from, we have learned, that when one hears “allah uahkbar” you better duck, because someone usually is going to be sacrificed to Islam’s moon god.
Best to get the hell out of the way.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

Where you come from is an ignorant meth-infested redneck hellhole with its own problems. In fact, I’d wager expressing even the slightest positive opinion about black people or black culture would risk a confrontation. Not my fault you live in George Wallace’s South, but it doesn’t mean your experience is normative for America or for human beings. It is backasswards racism, plain and simple.

I’m not going anywhere. To quote Glenn Beck, “You’re going to have to literally shoot me in the head.” If that is what you feel is necessary to silence my speech, then we will both finally see who is the real tyrant in this argument.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Islam is now a race.
As Pamela said last night, “if I say the Shahada, am I now from a different race”
Again lilah tov Ahmed

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

For the purposes of how you treat Muslims, they are a race. You denigrate them on account of shared identity. It is exactly the same thing as harboring prejudice against people for being black, or Christian, or dare I say it, liberal.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

If you don’t like redneck hellholes why don’t you move to fabulous Pakistan? Or fun-loving, tolerant Bangladesh? Or liberal Somalia? Or freedom loving Saudi Arabia?

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Scott Roeder’s actions happened twenty years ago. How many people have been killed by musswein since then? Hundreds of thousands (in the Sudan/Darfur)?

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  IzlamIsTyranny

Scott Roeder assassinated George Tiller in 2009, you ignorant FK

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

OK, islam0tard, how many thousands of people have been killed by your fellow musswein all over the world since 2009? I know at least 2000 Nigerian Christians have been slaughtered by your fellow musswein in Nigeria over the last two years, so let’s use that as a starting point…

Franz Gans
Franz Gans
8 years ago

THRE IS NO FINE LINE!
There is either Freedom Of Speech or there is none! Tertium non datur, Miss Reporter!
It’s just like pregnancy. You can’t be a just a little pregnant.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Franz Gans

So I have an unassailable right to advocate for assassinating the President? How about a cop?

Franz Gans
Franz Gans
8 years ago

Your examples are not about Free Speech but about plotting a crime. See the hair hatted hooligan woman who was arrested recently for calling on blacks to kill white cops. She too was plotting a crime and that is different. You can say the somebody deserves death in your oppinion, but when you call for somebody to be killed, that is a crime. I hope that helps.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Franz Gans

Then I suppose under your initial principle there is no freedom of speech in America! Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!

Naturally, there are far more nuances to the consequences of speech as you finally admitted. Incitement to violence and hate speech are two categories where your protections are significantly restricted if said speech poses a risk to the rights and liberty of others.

So in other words, no, freedom of speech is not an absolute as you wished to state, thus as it has been, thus as it shall be.

Franz Gans
Franz Gans
8 years ago

I don’t understand what you are saying but let me try.
You are saying that if somebody plots to commit murder, the police have to stand clear and first let him commit the deed, and they have no right to prevent crime?
Then why have a 911 number in the first place? We could just let the crimes unfold and then file a written request for prosecution and punishment later since there is no need for urgent intervention.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Franz Gans

It wasn’t my principle that established the overarching and absurd lengths of freedom of speech, but yours. Let me quote so as to remind you:

“There is either Freedom Of Speech or there is none!”

Ergo, since you are a fan of Latin, either we have freedom of speech to incite violence, or we have none.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Isn’t Arabic much more appropriate for a discussion of criminalizing free speech?
lan astaslem.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

I listened closely to last nights speeches, and there was not even one call to violence.
I don’t see where your argument, has anything to do with the subject at hand.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  bill reitzes

I am pretty sure my response was related to Franz Gans’s commentary, and not any speech. You are free to reference where there was any expressed intent on my part to ascribe my critiques to the speeches last night. Sadly (for you), you won’t find any.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago

You know full well that freedom of speech excludes incitement to murder. It goes without saying. Franz Glanz has included this assumption.

Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb
8 years ago
Reply to  Jim Fox

You know full well he didn’t include that originally when he said, quote, “There is either Freedom Of Speech or there is none!” It was only when I tested him that he included the usual understandable restrictions we have developed through case law and through social debate.

Under his original statement, either I have a right to incite murder or I don’t. I guess freedom of speech is dead.

Jim Fox
Jim Fox
8 years ago

Blah, blah, blah….

Ómar Guðmundsson
Ómar Guðmundsson
8 years ago

Sad to see the media blind for the truth.
Continue to speak the truth Pamela.

drsmith123
drsmith123
8 years ago

Considering CNN’s piss poor reporting of extremest, they have about six stories on their website on this event. Some are not bad. Surprising for CNN. Looks like a lot of Pamela’s quotes were actually quoted correctly. I think your finally making headway. Great job.

IzlamIsTyranny
IzlamIsTyranny
8 years ago

Just another reason to never watch the Crescent News Network. Whatever happened to Lou Dobbs? He’s the last commentator I can think of that was actually worth watching on CNN.

bill reitzes
bill reitzes
8 years ago

Pamela, next time when confronted by the likes of Camerota, with the usual, hurting the feelings of Muslims everywhere, say, “Let’s make a deal”
Sura 98:6 clearly states that Jews are the most vile of creatures, and you, being a Jew. find that Sura very hurtful to your feelings.
As you find the Koran hurtful, then obviously, Camerota, who is for defending “hurt feelings” should be for banning the Koran, as a book of hate speech.
What is good for the goose, is surely good for the gander, correct?
Now, for the deal.
Ban Mohammed cartoons and ban the Koran.
It’s a win win for all sides.

luvourtroops
luvourtroops
8 years ago

PRICELESS !!! You go Pamela Geller, that CNN anchor was NO match for you. No wonder FOX got rid of her.

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