In the notoriously leftwing media, Muslim trumps gay. Surprised? Don’t be. In numerous Muslim on gay crimes in uber-left Seattle and America’s gay capital San Francisco, when Muslims attack gays, the media and the law enforcement protect — the Muslims. Their ideology, their motive is never questioned, analyzed or spoken of.
Cases in point: San Francisco District Attorney and the San Francisco media covered up a string of gay beatings by a Muslim gang. Gays were videotaped being shot in the face, and the priority of the DA was to hush up the crimes and strong-arm the media into not reporting them.
In Seattle, Ali Muhammad Brown was charged with executing two gay men. Brown was previously prosecuted federally, following an FBI probe into an Islamic group suspected of supporting jihadists overseas. But his religion, his motive, was carefully scrubbed from news reports.
A gay nightclub was doused in gasoline and set ablaze on New Year’s eve by a devout Muslim. Again the jihadist’s religion, his motive, was carefully scrubbed from the media and law enforcement reports.
This report, too, negates the motive, the root of his hate. Islam.
Police say Bayna El-Amin is the man responsible for bashing a gay man over the head with a chair at the Dallas BBQ in Chelsea earlier this month. I wonder if they were eating pork. That really would have sent him into rage-boy piety.
“NYPD identifies ‘career criminal’ as suspect in brutal anti-gay attack in Chelsea,” By Chris Sommerfeldt , Rocco Parascandola , Tina Moore, NY Daily News, May 19, 2015
Cops are hunting for a “career criminal” who bashed a gay couple over the head with a chair at a Chelsea barbecue joint, officials said Tuesday.
Police said Bayna El-Amin, 41, was wanted in connection with the May 5 beating at the Dallas BBQ at 261 8th Ave.
Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce said El-Amin is believed to be on the run.
“He is a career criminal,” Boyce said. “We believe he has fled the state.”
Video from the eatery shows a man smash a wooden chair over a gay couple, knocking them both to the ground.
The victims in the attack were Jonathan Snipes, 32, and Ethan York-Adams, 25, police sources said.
The beating came after the attacker lobbed several anti-gay slurs at the men.
Patricia Snipes, of Birmingham, Ala., said her son was experiencing severe pain in his back.
“At least he was not killed,” she said, noting she talked to her son’s friend Tuesday. “It could have been very, very bad.”
She said she watched the video from the restaurant nearly 1,000 miles away with great difficulty.
“It was hard to look at,” she said. “I looked through it all. In my heart I’m having a very difficult time. There’s nothing I can do right now. All I can do is pray.”
“I’m proud to be his mother and I’m worried to death about him,” she said.
The brawl was briefly broken up before the heavy-set bald man rushed in with a chair and slammed the men on the head about 11:00 p.m.
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Muslim Sharia…makin’ friends…
Dirtbag. I hope that he’s still in the area near Texas and that he gives the police a reason.
This was not in Texas.It happened at a restaurant Named Dallas BBQ in New York’s Chelsea area.
Oh, thank you for that clarification. He’ll probably stay out of the south and southwest.
Oh, in a gun-control state, of course. LOL!
Fucking savage.
Thank you for reporting this, Pamela. It is astonishing that the MSM won’t tell people the whole story.
Considering who sits in the WH…it is not all that astonishing. The MSM abandoned the truth and the idea of getting to the truth…a long time ago.
The Mainstream Media is nothing but the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party, just like Pravda and Izvestia. The Völkischer Beobachter was more balanced. Goebbels would be so proud. His Big Lie continues to work.
There was a story out of LA about a LA police officer w/a muslim name who was forcing strippers (strippers as in plural) to have sex with him some 5 years ago. The story was briefly reported and I never heard another word about the story from the enemedia.
‘He is a career criminal’
– just following the example of the Perfect Man (pbuh).
Pick on someone your own caliber.
http://www.pinkpistols.org
Everyone standing around with the cell phone filming the thing and not a one of them getting in there and helping. Stupid @ss New Yorkers.
All of whom are alive and walking today. Whereas you, a know it all nobody from nowhere, would have played hero and left NYC in a body bag. The #1 departure for those dumb enough to attempt to break up a fight in NY. You better stay in Kansas Dorothy.
Only because NYC is filled with coward AHs like you.
Cowards said the walking talking nothing #2. Riiiiight. Not brave warriors like you. You talk a good fight.
You talk a good fight.
Said from the safety of mommy’s basement.
Yeah. A few red blooded Americans in there and could have been a full on brawl, cowboy style.
I am too old to jump in a fight now. However I do carry a gun. If it happened in my state I would have shot him.
Who cares? An idiot moslem protected by liberals, beats some liberals. Maybe after the liberals are beaten and killed in mass numbers they will stop protecting these inbred savage terrorists. Until then let the moslems keep beating liberals.
You have a very good point there.
Precisely.
Very true and honestly those on the right will have less to fear when Muslims really start to take action in the US than the left does. Personally I say we keep our guns locked up until the Muslims cut off a few million heads then we fight back. I served as an Infantryman in the Army and personally I’ll never risk my life for anyone on the left because they are the reason this is going on bottom line. They don’t deserve the protection of the nation or it’s people.
Bingo. I’m not putting myself out there for any enemy of my way of life.
Which is why you will die with your head in the sand, never knowing who the real enemy is! Sleep on!
Ha ha ha! Let the soft-headed leftists incur the wrath of their pets. I couldn’t care less. Our enemies are numerous, and when one enemy brutalizes another enemy, the most I’ll be is a good witness. Let a muzzrat try that on one of mine, someone I’m willing to take a risk for, and see who’s asleep then, troll.
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Way to treat half the US population as the enemy. Most working class Democrat union guys have nothing to do with letting the muslims into the US. You think you get to decide which citizens are worthy of life? Did something happen to your brain when you were serving?
did something happen to libtard brain
Was that supposed to be a sentence?
According to the majority of Democrat politicians elected by those union guys, they sure as hell believe that our half of the population is the enemy. Why not let them have a taste of their own medicine, for a change?
Exactly. I love when liberals get a taste of their own monster’s creation.
I love when durka muslim piggies get a taste better
because the enemy are the islamic dogs
Not according to the Democrat party or the so-called mainstream media.
Did I say kill them you dolt? I said I would not lift a finger to protect them and that they did not deserve it. Why should I put myself at risk ever again for people that would gladly spit in my fact or worse??? And real classy insult at the end there. Go get raped by a muslim and piss off please you nasty troll.
Because they are AMERICANS, idjit, and the durka muslim pigs are the enemy.
Are you out there, defending them?
The biggest problem with James’ and Demsci’s position, is that you can’t tell a Libturd from a decent American until they open their mouth.
Thanks a lot MannieP. It is indeed a strawman argument that ou position is that “neutral, liberal people” are ENEMIES of Dem.cit.s. No they are just “ordinary citizens”.
Dem-cit’s want the full democratic system with all it’s laws in function. In that context we help. In that way (only) we view ourselves as positive exception.
Our position is that it is highly unreasonable that “true Dem-cit’s”” are without question supposed to be in solidarity with those “neutrals” who themselves don’t care about us or our legitimate concerns, who never ask for our help.
Look, when the time comes, and there is war, we will negotiate plenty and be flexible,
but giving and taking should go 2 ways, not expected only coming from one side to the other with nothing (but ignoring attitude, scorn and at so many points and times siding with the enemy) from the other side.
According to CAIR, the liberals in great majority themselves, and even the “True Dem. cit.’s the Muslims residing in America are Americans too!!!
You are obviously mentally ill. Were you raped by a Muslim? Did you like so much you are now recommending it?
Thanks sandra
these jokers are muslim running dog hacks.
half teh US population we certainly do not view as the enemy; but “self-declared neutrals, still accountable for that choice,
Life is very sacred to us Democr. citizens, and all are worthy of it. But who is it that you want to win eventually?
Why is it that we True Dem.Citizens must instantly protect “neutrals” who themselves place their lives and society in jeopardy? Because that is how we view liberals! The fact that they are not aware of this, still does not absolve them of their responsibility for their choices.
But since you make the goal as saving the most lives in the long run; We can make our case that our strategy aims to achieve that goal, and that our strategy beats all other strategies of non-Muslims for that goal.
We want to save the most lives in the long run! And “liberals, neutrals” frustrate us, leading us into VERY RISKY, life- and freedom-threathening situations situations in future. And this time I mean with “us” all Non-Muslims combined.
Sadly, both the Dem and GOP pols are complicit. The American people spoke clearly in 2014. We have been ignored.
Interesting dilemma we see here. First of; who are “we”? That are appalled by this “Islamic political system”? And I know Sandra Schmidt is VERY appalled by it.
I like to distinguish a part of Western Citizens as some kind of “True Democratic Citizens”, don’t know a better name yet. We are that and we should realize we are a minority!
Then there are Muslims, our opponents. And then there are, oh, I don’t know; “ordinary citizens, liberals, neutrals”. So there are 3 groups.
And the neutrals protect the Muslims and blockade the True Democratic Citizens taking protective measures against encroaching Islam. They even won’t let us curtail Islamic immigration.
So I don’t know either if True Democratic Citizens should lift a finger to help these neutrals, when attacked by Muslims. It seems probably better not to do it.
Then you’re promoting the cause of Muslim extremists, aren’t you. And as a Liberal it seems to me you’re just as much of an enemy as any of these extremists, wishing death on your fellow Americans. Isn’t that the very definition of treason?
No, it’s not a crime to wish someone get a taste of their own ignorance. Supporting/promoting ideals and voting for politicians that allow/excuse/apologize for crimes against American’s, now that should be a crime. You fucking Obama nut swingers are the biggest enemy this country has faced since Hitler.
It’s not a crime. But it’s truly evil thinking. And it’s tragic that you and your sort think your fellow citizens are enemies.
Don’t tell me who you are, show me your friends and who you spend your time with and I’LL tell you who you are! In other words, actions speak louder than words…are you 12 years old or what?
My friends are all admirable productive American citizens.
who put an America-hating, Islamo-Marxist psychopath in the presidency. I guess they did that while on break from being admirable and productive.
All Metis’ friends are perverts.
I thought you Leftists didn’t believe in the concept of citizenship. I guess you pull it out only when it’s a handy tool to attack patriots.
By the way, just 7 short years after the Islamo-Nazi attacks of 9/11/2001 half of my “fellow citizens” put one of them in the White House. That’s the definition of an enemy.
When they are openly destroying the fabric and the foundations upon which America was built? I think you mistake citizen for patriot…the two terms are now often mutually exclusive.
Pst! Treason IS an crime.
And “even only” evil-thinking sedition, is also a crime!
😉
Hello Metis, OK, I made a sweeping statement and I like to qualify it. If in my presence violence is used, I react like most citizens, through calling police and interfering.
But I did talk about the 3 groups. And described MY group as “True Democratic Citizens” and I am Democratic to the bone.
And I view life as sacred, but then the question arises; how do we save the most innocent lives in the long term? Is your liberal strategy the best strategy for that goal???
You said you were liberal; again and again we (True Dem. Citizens) point out to you, liberals, neutrals, the danger to our system and hence our lives in future. we perceive coming through Islam and a part of Muslims.
And we try to persuade you to help us an “you”, general “you’ Not, personal “you” refuse even to listen, to debate even at times.
What would you have us do under these circumstances? Protect you against the very people that we warned you against, that you exonerated?
But I am willing to debate. I appreciate reasonable disagreement without insults being flung. I agree, calling the police would be the best thing. Random violence with guns can very likely end in innocents dying. What I would have you (not you personally) do in threads like this is desist from extreme hatred against your fellow citizens. For most people here, such hatred is just talk, but there are those rare instances when a real lunatic can take this hatred seriously and act on it.
So what would you do?
As law enforcement is increasingly infiltrated and subverted by islamic-nazis law enforcement will be part of the problem not the solution.
THANK YOU, Metis! I like nothing than to debate the Islamic-Democratic issue! With the likes of you. You bring flavor and a needed “mirror’ to this website, even if you get lambasted at times. I wish we had more time and space. I daresay eventually we would find common middle ground.
Just never ever risk losing our precious democratic system! (Yes, at times I think “liberals” are very careless with it!).
I can get along with Conservatives like you Demsci. You have an open mind, you listen while you disagree. This is the basis of good conversation. I listen too and I consider and learn from an intelligent person like you. Perhaps our disagreements are only differing shades of interpretation rather than completely oppositional. I also think we could quite possibly reach a common middle ground – if only that were the model for this country as a whole, because I see the division between left and right opening a gap to such an extent that a lot of people are wishing death upon their fellow Americans.
“…because I see the division between left and right
opening a gap to such an extent that a lot of people are wishing death upon their fellow Americans.”
You are right (sort of), but it’s not between the right and the left… it’s between the far-left and the farther-left.
I think a large part of the problem is the very foundation of modern American liberalism in general. The modern day Democratic party is, out of pure necessity, comprised of dozens of ideologically fractured groups held together in a relatively weak alliance. This was (and is being done) so as to defeat a perceived common enemy, which is essentially the Jewish and Christian values systems, and conservative traditional values in general.
And that is what sets the (D)’s up for strategic failure,
and what enables the party to have diametrically opposed groups standing under the same (D) flag. Most Islamic people demand or at least hat tip Sharia Law, which is in general deeply oppressive of women, gays and everyone not a Muslim. We also have under the (D) flag militant 3rd wave feminists, who are actually anti-male, and who have a declared state goal to “overthrown patriarchy” and reorder our entire society; then, to base our society upon worship of the feminine, and female domination at all levels, economic, cultural, and even legally.
Effectively, the (D) flag has constructed two large
masses of opposed ideology, that we shall call uranium U235. It has created conditions internally within its own party so as to assure that a solid collision of these two radio-active masses will happen. There will eventually be a critical mass reaction within the (D) party. When it happens, it will literally be bloody and ugly.
Look, let’s be honest about this… we can’t have a society
based on Sharia, and third wave feminism, both at the same time. The Democrats know this! So, we can learn what the core leadership of the (D)’s want based on what they say AND do… and they ARE NOW actively covering up crimes against Gays, perpetrated by Islamic worshipers.
This clearly telegraphs to me that the (D)’s are
inherently Islamic sympathizers (anti-Jewish) in general and merely using the power of gays, lesbians, and feminists NOW to effect destruction of Christianity and all things Republican.
Once the Republicans are “eliminated” gays, lesbians, and
feminists will be systemically culled. This is really just very old fashioned military strategy. But it’s extremely effective, when you can get your victims to mostly self-censure. The one crux in the larger plan is the proliferation of Cell phones with video capability, and YouTube.
It also explains why the (D) party bosses have such a
raging hard-on to crack down on freedom of speech and internet communications in general. Gays are just now beginning to realize they are just being used by the (D)’s as disposable Sherpa’s, forced to carry the water to the caldrons that Islamic democrats will use to drown them in once the Republican problem is solved.
I think a good Republican party strategy is simply to get
the Democratic party to fight itself, which is now really beginning to happen in many different areas of the weak (D) coalition.
So I say bash on my Islamic operatives, target your wrath toward every gay man, lesbian woman, and all feminists everywhere… I have your back, as such is the will of Allah, peach be upon his blessed name.
You neglect to mention that the real majority of the Democratic Party is comprised of intelligent, well-educated, tolerant Americans who are actually open to good ideas from the right, if only they are not based on hatred and intolerance. This is my point of view as a Liberal American Jew. Meanwhile the Republicans are the ones with extreme inter-party conflicts, as I see it.
Excellent, I see that our propaganda campaign is working
wonderfully…
keep your eyes on the shiny coin in my right hand, be
assured that my left hand is not holding a loaded revolver to the back you your head. HAY YOU Eyes right… keep your eyes to the right at ALL times. Such a good subject and follower you are… shiny!
Because #intelligence
Question.
This is a logic based, so be careful… you have stated in your above post that you reject GOOD ideas, If you think they are based on intolerance and hatred. So I got to ask, do you embrace bad ideas simply because they are not (in your mind)?
Can you expand on what are good ideas as compared to a
bad ideas that are (and are not) based on intolerance and hatred and also compare them to ones that are based on hatred and intolerance.
Don’t good ideas stand as self-evident regardless of
their inspiration?
Try this experiment, list all of the GOOD things Hitler
did or stood for.
You’re tricky. Good ideas can’t be based on intolerance and hatred. That’s how many Republicans suffer from a basic misunderstanding about what is good for our country and its citizens. Granted there must be some moderate Republicans who actually care about all the people in this country, not just about the wealthy. Eisenhower was such a Republican, but they don’t mention him anymore. Your conversational style, while thankfully lacking direct repugnant insult, is at the same time so condescending that I can’t see this as a productive dialogue. There are many areas about which, if you were serious, we could have an interesting exchange of ideas. However I don’t think you’re open to that.
Define intolerance
Often people like you become interrogators. I never respond to 3rd degree questioning. State your opinions and I can respond with mine; otherwise forget it.
I win!
Many gays actively support muslim groups and feel a common ”victimhood” mentality with them. Maybe they will have a road to Damascus moment when these things happen. (pun intended) At the very least the thug should have been detained for the cops. Unwarranted assault should be punished.
I don’t know any gays who support muslim groups – that seems quite far-fetched to me. I do understand people defending a minority group as I am Jewish and well aware of the historical events we have suffered as a group. But I agree with your last sentence.
Hi there,
Me too, Jewish and unfortunately , it’s true. “palestine” is the pet cause of quite a few gay groups in a few metro areas.
Specifically gay groups? Or just Liberal – far left. I am a lifelong liberal but disturbed by the condemnation of Israel that has become so virulent among some liberals.
I saw a very small group of “gays for palestine” (under 5) marching in a gay pride parade (out of thousands of marchers). My friends (half of whom were Jewish, none of whom support the “palestinians”) and I were shocked that they were allowed to participate.
If the Christian bigots want to paint with such a broad brush, maybe they should ask their own leadership (US Council of Catholic Bishops, Lutherans, etc.) why they are assisting with settlement of hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the US.
My best friend who is a lesbian has a son. He was never “abused” as you allege. He is married and has four kids, two of them in college, one a star athlete, and one little one future still to be determined. He supports his wife and she doesn’t have to work so she has been able to see to the upbringing of the kids.
As to who is bringing Muslims into the country both the American Council of Catholic Bishops and the Lutherans are bringing them by the hundreds of thousands. Pull your head out and learn some facts.The money they get from the government is more important than preserving our freedoms.
Actually, we used to go to parades together all the time.
You know, “Dorrie”, I think you might be embarrassing the majority of Jews by using the Star of David as your moniker. I have never heard a Jewish person make such hateful, vile and intellectually challenged comments as you do. Are you sure you are not descended from some lowlife concentration camp guard?
by the time police arrives your head is seperated from your shoulders.
There aren’t any muslim “extremists” because pi$$lam, just like Nazism is nothing but extreme fool.
Glad to see someone taking action against perverts, even if he is a Muzzie. Perverts are nasty , abnormal people that need to be eliminated. Oh-h-h, I know, I am making repugnant remarks, and I am unAmerican. Go $uck it!
Liberals are NOT “ordinary citizens” – they are criminal traitors.
I guess you think Bush I and II had sweet smelling shit too, and that ALL our problems are Obama’s. Only the liberals has shat on our Constitution. Fools everywhere!
Bush II was a Trotskyite liberal, moron.
The “neo” in “neo”-Conservative actually mean he was the exact opposite of a true Conservative.
If he had been in any way loyal to American, he would have armed up secular Saddam and sent him after the Saudis, but in stead he did the exact opposite, and attacked innocent Iraq FOR his Saudomite oil-master owners.
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Re: “Please allow 24 hours and sometimes more for a response. If this is urgent, please red flag your email and put urgent in the heading.
Thanks, RUBY”
WTH did that mean, idiot? Can’t you even keep it straight who you are replying to?!
I love you. I have to be your friend.
You are with the perverts? Or are you one of them?
Savage and repugnant on so many levels, this traitorous remark expresses hatred for half your fellow citizens. You must have sustained a serious head injury in the military when you were supposedly defending all citizens of the USA.
Once again you liberals must be brain dead. Did I say I wanted Muslims to kill the left?? No I said when and if it starts to happen there is NO WAY I would risk myself to protect them. I am under no oath to do so, so just how does that make me a traitor? And I just love how you people toss that you must have gotten a head injury while serving. Talk about stereotyping at some of it’s sickest. I did not serve in the current 10+ years of screw-ups called the war on terror. But bottom line those young men deserve better than people like you tossing out that brain damage shit when one of them does not agree with you. You’re a real shithead.
your words are those of muslim pigs
You do recall that you said: ” Personally I say we keep our guns locked up until the Muslims cut off a few million heads then we fight back.” These “few million” to whom you refer are the heads of your fellow Americans. Without the excuse of insanity, your remark is nothing less than treasonous. And this from an American veteran. Are you sure you’re not really an extremist Muslim posing as a soldier here? Because normally they’re the ones who wish that millions of Americans would die.
I understand, but by your very reaction you again confirm that either A. you did not hear or understand the warning given by TDC” (True Dem. Citizens) to you, as part of liberals, neutrals, or you did not even bother to ascertain what it is that we warn you about;
We do not warn you about trivial things, but about matters of both life and death and freedom. We perceive danger coming from Islam and Muslims and also death, destruction, slavery.
And what do we get as answer? Mostly hostility and an ignoring attitude.
I say we TDC, roundly beat you liberals, with your strategy, in protecting lives in the future. with our strategy.
and I say this with respect, because I am convinced that you speak from a good heart.
Thank you. I can always respond to a respectful rejoinder, to the best of my ability. I appreciate your well-thought out answer. I agree that the danger is looming and might be a big danger. These ISIS people will stop at nothing – that’s quite obvious. What made me object was the hatred I thought I discerned towards gays and liberals. Disagreement is fine. But unreasoning hatred and hoping that gays and liberals die, is another thing entirely. And as I’ve already pointed out, some lunatics might take such talk seriously and actually go out there and act on it.
So… you ARE saying that words are dangerous and even weapons used in war. Yet… you want civilian to have free access to speech and all the words they want?
That is quite an overreaching condemnation. As a liberal, I’m curious to know your reaction to a question posed by the NY Times this AM: If we bomb ISIS, we will also bomb innocent civilians there. We as Americans do not wish to kill the innocent; at the same time ISIS has no compunction in doing so. What do you think our strategy should be? Here’s the article and you might be interested in the comments too. I am interested in reasonable debate and not condemning others’ opinions. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/world/middleeast/with-isis-in-crosshairs-us-holds-back-to-protect-civilians.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Duh, you can’t wage a war without collateral damage. Innocent Germans and Japanese had to die to defeat Nazism and Imperial Japan. How do you expect to defeat islamic-nazism? Talk them to death? Outreach programs? Group hugs?
That’s one answer. In the NY Times article I cited, you’ll see there are many comments similar to yours. But there are other comments that might also interest you. Here’s one example: Our concern about civilian casualties is not soft-heartedness but hard-headedness, We are well aware that the long term strategy for defeating and eliminating Isis depends upon popular support and government cooperation throughout the Middle East. This is a region largely hostile to American power and we will pay dearly in popular support and cooperation — and hand ISIS supporters and recruits — if we make missteps. Add to this the complication of not wanting to do Mr. Assad’s dirty work, and you can see the dilemma we’re in. Wars weren’t meant to be fought with tweets and twenty-four hour coverage. They take time, there are setbacks, and there are tactical “withdrawals” that one allows for an eventual victory. I respect the impatience and frustration of pilots and other forces directly engaged with the fight, but sometimes one must respect the judgments of those who have a bigger picture.
Thank god liberals during WWII weren’t all like this Metis. We’d all be speaking German and eating fish heads and rice.
I am no college student. I’m an older woman with much experience. Too bad you’re not willing to engage in what might be an interesting conversation.
You don’t say…
Yes of course, these “terrorists” just need a little compassion and jobs. Maybe you can go over there and open a string of quickie marts, call them Jihad Jane’s. Worrying about “innocent” civilians… those civilians would gladly hold you down while the butchers chop your empty head off. Please, go find a yoga article to comment on, your position here is an utter failer and quite frankly, very European.
Sarcasm not appreciated. I won’t bother with you any further.
As a decorated military veteran myself… Metis…. your position is self-defeating. You miss understand the US military veteran in general (IMHO) We are not loyal to a nation or even a flag, but the idea of freedom… but what accompanies freedom is a responsibility to accept the consensuses of your actions, and this is where Dem’s nearly always fall and cry.
You are free to blow your own head off, but I have no moral duty (or even the slightest obligation) to stop you from blowing your own head off! My only obligation is to myself, my family, my creator, and the idea of freedom AND responsibility, and to those who agree with me.
You have a right to organize a large mob of people… and you even have the right to tell that mob is should make life uncomfortable in Americana for Republicans and Conservatives in general. But you DO NOT have any right to demand that I as a Republican minded Conservative step in and save you (all, or any of you) from the mob you created, thinking it would do your bidding to harm me, only to discover that it actually wants to devour you.
Freedom requires intelligence! He who truly lacks intelligence will not remain free for long, and will probably not live much longer than the end of his freedoms.
But I will help you, because I love you! I’ll sell you a gun, 7 bullets, and wish you the very best of luck in your own self defense from the mob you created. Aim small, hit small!
I disagree with your basic point of view completely and on every level.
Of course you do… you want the freedom to cause all manner of problems for everyone in life you pleasure to torment… yet be entirely free of any consequence that torment you created brings back at you. Then you demand that the people you tormented save you from the consequences for your tormenting… but now that they figured out that you’ve been playing them (and seven other groups of people too) this entire time… and now that some of them (who were previously protecting you) are now beginning sit in stony silence, you cry no fair, this is treason!
You are saying that you have no moral obligation to
protect yourself, but I have a moral obligation to protect you from anything you deem in your mind as threatening to you, even when you created the threat.
If I were to distill your mentality down to a single word
it would be this
Selfish
I am with intent, now stepping aside and allowing fate to adjust as it may, if this grinds you to a pulp, such is the will of Allah, peace be upon his Holly name.
Did you learn noting from Thucydides.
“Right, as the world goes, is only in question between
equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” Thucydides.
If you want to live your life in a position of weakness, you will reap the fruits of that weakness and suffer as you must.
I abhor guns. But if you’re in the military or the police I think you’ve sworn to protect your country. I do assume that includes all citizens, not just the ones you’ve decided to like. I pay taxes so people like you can protect our country.
Why do you abhor guns? They are just a tool. As good as the person carrying them. We will need our guns when ISIS in the US rears its ugly head.
I have received death threats. My guns help me sleep better at night and go about my business without having to curtail my activities. The authorities are powerless to protect you.
Sure guns are a tool – for killing. Guns and people should never mix unless the people are highly trained and vetted such as those like yourself in the military or the police.
Well, my dad was a Green Beret, but I have never served (I would have, but they didn’t accept gays and I am not a liar). The right to bear arms is the right of all of us under the Constitution. Why should I be denied the right to defend myself because I am not in the military or police?
You know, when I referred to the military it was a mistake. I thought I was still answering another person. I’m not going to argue with you – I’m sure you truly are a responsible gun owner and I’m not worried about people like you.
You are terrorized, or you are a liar… you said only the military and police needs guns: then, you refused to answer why they need guns.
You seem to be degenerating and verging on name-calling, the refuge of the right-winger who feels cornered.
I think the key to preventing gun criminality is to beef up enforcement against felons and DV (domestic violence) perpetrators owning guns, not to strip the good guys of their weapons.
Why is military or police necessary? Why do either need arms?
I do not respond to interrogation.
OMG YOU ARE HILLARY CLINTON! Hay everyone. I’m debating Hillary Clinton.
I am revealed!
Well I respect almost all your opinions, Sandra. I wouldn’t feel safe with a gun, but I’m sure you know what you’re doing.
I would prefer a world where they weren’t necessary, but unfortunately we don’t live in a world like that. I grew up with guns and hunting with my dad so am not afraid of them and am a good shot. I think a lot of the gun debate is a reflection of how we grew up. Those brought up in the country are often comfortable with guns, while city people not so much – perhaps they associate guns with thugs.
Yes, I agree. Country people and city people often have differing opinions about guns. – I can understand and respect that. I’ve always been a city person.
You might enjoy going to the range to learn a little more about shooting. You could take a gun safety course, and many ranges have rental guns available. Skeet shooting is a blast. I get together with friends to do it occasionally. Keeps skills sharp for hunting. Even though you are a city person, you never know when you may get a hankering for quail and if your favorite restaurant happens to be closed… ROFLMFO
But some how you feel safe with your fully automatic free speech, and your seemingly inexhaustible supply of dangerous words…
Wowsa! I’m under attack again! I sense a hint of a threat in your words. You seem to feel perfectly free to express yourself – to quote Orwell – we’re all equal, but some are more equal than others.
Yes I served for over 20 years in the military, and it’s very
apparent you misunderstand the power structure of the government and we the people. I can forgive you for this. It’s also apparent you don’t seem to know (what) the military takes an oath to actually “defend.” This is a classic liberal thought trap.
We take an oath to support and defend the US constitution, not the United States of America as a nation (per se), nor it’s laws… This is where MANY liberals get off the rail.
They think we are defending the USA and it’s laws at all cost, but we are not. We are defending an idea expressed solely in the US constitution.
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
Carefully read the above, and NOTE, nowhere in the oath
does is mention complying with or being faithful to any US law. The government can create unconstitutional laws The UCMJ is NOT US law… some people don’t really get that distinction. The UCMJ does not apply to US Citizens (again per se). It only applies to military troops who have taken an oath to follow the US constitution and the UCMJ, ect, ect…
I actually have an obligation to kill my fellow American citizens, when, in the mind of the leadership and under the direction of the president that any designated part of the population is in rebellion against the UC constitution. The president says shoot those people over there, and I will shoot them over there!
So to say this clearly, I have no specific obligation to
protect you from any one… especially from yourself, but I may very well have an order to kill you for the good of the constitution, IF designated people in power at any particular time say I should kill… The only thing stopping me from killing my fellow Americans is literally an order of the president and the officers appointed over me.
Now please don’t taken any of this as a personal threat… it’s all long established jurisprudence and law of war. Soldiers follow orders… and American soldiers can be ordered to kill Americans citizens (depend on the circumstances) which may include you.
So don’t do anything unconstitutional… and you will be safe.
Oh. OK. I thought too highly of the military, I see. “I actually have an obligation to kill my fellow American citizens…etc. etc.”Uh huh. You do seem to nurture and relish the possibility that you might be given permission to snuff the life out of your fellow Americans. However, I feel safe.
You should feel very safe because killing is a power we do not take lightly in the military. But what difference does it make if I do, or do not relish any particular thought, or have no thought at all on any matter whatsoever?
My thoughts cannot affect your perception.
My thoughts and feelings are not who is going to be ordering me to kill my fellow Americans (you). At the present time, it is a Democratic president that (you) elected against my will who would be ordering me to kill Americans (you)… most likely you would protest what you have done to yourself.
It just goes back to your inability to understand that evil will use both good or bad things against you, as necessary… to assure its will is done.
I imagine that any rational-thinkers who read this exchange will be face-palming themselves into unconsciousness, as a demonstration of reactionary liberal vs critical thought. I wish you well…
Your thoughts, if stated reasonably and logically, might be worth considering. You seem intelligent and educated enough; it’s a small indication, but a lot of people wouldn’t be able to spell “affect” correctly.
So I used affect correctly to great effect? Yea me… now
on to important matters that affect real people in the world today.
According to liberal orthodoxy abortion is “right.” Moreover,
there is no case where abortion is ever wrong, as long as the decision was made by the mother, it is a right decision.
But what if I hated Jews, and so I made a donation to
planned parenthood to pay for 20 abortions for of only Jewish women (or blacks, or any “minority really). I’m doing this because I want a world with fewer Jews, and every pulverized dead Jewish baby is one less Jew that will exists to pollute the evolving human genome of the rest of the world. And, and I’m going to pay for advertising that waxes eloquent about how abortions for this person or group is clearly the best decision ever. In fact, I’ll get my chosen people to feel liberated by killing their babies, as often as possible. They will stand hand-in hand and demand to kill their babies at will.
Am I evil? Does my evil intent make abortion wrong? What is a moral wrong? Is the world made better when evil people do “good and right things?” According to liberals I must be pro-choice to be a good and noble person. But they are silent on why I must be pro-choice, except to say that abortion is morally good. Can evil people use your “good institutions” to kill you off with them, or to at least put a big dent in your population numbers, so as to make a final solution a little bit easier?
I’m guessing your answer will be that you are suddenly a lifelong a pro-life liberal, or that I am oppressing you with my interrogations.
This is not the same as an interrogation. You bring up an important question that is one of the biggest debates. Abortions are never desirable but sometimes necessary. I believe that the need for abortion could generally be obliterated if proper birth control methods were easily available and used in all cases where a baby is not the desired outcome. Also I think educating children early about not acting impulsively with respect to sexual relationships is also helpful. During the Aids crisis I told my son (who is now in his mid-40’s) that it was a matter of survival of the smartest. I don’t have all the answers about abortion. But I do think it is between a woman and her doctor, and should not be legislated by the state. There is also the question about when human life actually begins but I’m no authority on any of these things. I am especially disturbed by late-term abortions when the child could have lived. In a larger sense, aside from the thorny question of abortion, I believe true morality is expressed by the Golden Rule. Essentially I think it’s all we need.
No, she just wants to live in a civilized society, where old ladies don’t have to pack heat to defend themselves.
What those men and women in uniform needed and continue to need is a strategy to actually WIN the war on terror. From Bush to the current squatter in the White House, this war was declared and waged in a failing way. Enough of this door to door shit, arming these guys, training those guys, “nation building” worrying about collateral damage.
Actually, you expressed your hope that I, a fellow citizen, would be raped by Muslims. You seem like a demented, angry person. Get help.
“James Miller sandra schmidt • 3 days ago
Did I say kill them you dolt? I said I would not lift a finger to protect them and that they did not deserve it. Why should I put myself at risk ever again for people that would gladly spit in my fact or worse??? And real classy insult at the end there. Go get raped by a muslim and piss off please you nasty troll.”
His comment is reproduced above. He did say that. The fact that you are denying it is evidence of what an evil sow you are.
You don’t like being proven wrong, do you?
There is no such thing as Hell.
worry about the durkas
they are the enemy
islamic pigs, the enemy, get it?
They don’t know what they are doing…they are guillable , stupid….they don’t understand the consequences. They’ve been fooled into believing that the negative information about ISLAM…what is positive one might ask..is propoganda from the right.
What’s the name of this restaurant I want to make a RSVP for Barrack and Michelle ! They should see how these muslims act.
Would do no good. Obama the Muslim would applaud the action by a member of his Terrorist Religion.
I find it appalling whenever my non-violent fellow citizens are beaten, no matter what their political beliefs.
NONVIOLENT? Liberalism has killed more people since 1900 than all diseases combined and all by violence. Liberalism Kills
So your solution to your perception of the problems in the country are to beat people in public? Classy.
Not at all. We merely permit the left to enjoy the benefits of their up close and personal relationship with their chosen allies.
Perhaps the only way your kind can gain power is through street violence. Sounds an awful lot like the dems you hate.
Not only wrong, but stupidly wrong on your part. I’m not gaining power at all. I’m simply opting out of your game and letting you, for once, reap the results that you’ve sown rather than stepping in and saving your sorry bacon (with apologies to your Muslim friends) like we usually do.
You are wasting your time with that one gunnar..she’s an Islamapologist. You will never break through that wall of self imposed shame, she’s probably a liberal Jew too.
She’s liberal Jew carpet muncher, the only thing conservative about her is a healthy fear of Islam.
I don’t have muslim friends. I don’t associate with the followers of the pedophile. The fact that you made assumptions about me and then resorted to ad hominem attacks is typical of those of your ilk.
Well sandra, you went there first, so I assumed that you were setting the tone of the discussion. You can imagine how surprised I am by the fact that you can dish it out, but you can’t take it yourself. Typical of you Dem hypocrites.
You are a complete moron. I was a Republican since college, but now a Libertarian due to the GOP being full of thugs like you.
Once again you display your own asininity. I’ve never been a Republican. Libertarian for 30 years, so welcome to the party late.
The Muslims are your allies, not mine. They think like you. Misogyny, homophobia, disrespect, religious delusions. I look forward to the day when the planet is cleansed of all of you fanatics.
Hypocrisy much?
How’s that?
Uh huh. We’ve been hearing that for years. Religion is a great excuse for lazy losers
Just how am I an enemy? By expressing my opinion? Please explain.
Being a lesbian is not a lifestyle. It is how I was born. Who are you to judge me? I am not an activist, but I do believe I am entitled to equal rights and I will fight for them. I also support your right to believe as you please, but not to pass laws prohibiting me from equal rights.
Shame is what people like you are all about. Pathetic.
You really have no idea of the rich tapestry of gay and lesbian relationships, which are not just about sex. Get your silly mind out of the gutter and tend to your own soul.
You’ve obviously been watching too many porn movies.
The APA doesn’t agree with you, you old Nazi.
Do you even know what the APA is? What a whiner you are. Anti-semitism my ass, you aren’t intelligent enough to be Jewish. My guess would be messianic wannabe.
The APA has NEVER permitted it’s general membership to vote on the position.
That’s hysterical. For 30 years, we’ve been listening to you anti-religious bigots masturbating about your eagerness to do battle with “radical religious fundamentalism”….until September 11, 2001. You then decided you wouldn’t join the battle because it would have required you to join the same side as the United States and mainstream Christianity.
How have I not joined the battle? I speak out against islamofascism, support our troops, and did not vote for Obama. I am not required to accept the beliefs of Christian fundamentalists. This is a free country, or have you fogotten that?
As for masturbation, that’s your schtick, not mine. Anyone who is so concerned about the sexual orientation of others is obviously not getting any.
You encourage street violence with your blame the victim mentality. Your comments indicate a very angry, insecure person.
So we assign accountability to some potential victims yes. And you then have the “exonerate all of all responsibility-attitude? Maybe we can find middle ground.
And in the long run, our deep democratic patriottic attitude really discourages street violence, not a liberal exonerating attitude towards Muslims.
We ONLY wondered aloud whether we should help those who ignore or scorn our warnings, who fail to even cooperate with us, instead work against us, blockade us.
They have the full protection of the law and they are the majority of the population,
they can help themselves well enough and after the onset of hostilities we are happy to negotiate with them, hoping they will be much less arrogant.
Get a grip. Obama will be gone shortly and things will get back to normal. Wishing for civil war is ugly and uncivilized. America is waking up to the islamofascist threat and it will be addressed at the ballot box.
As to any “arrogance” of the victim in the chair incident you are making a lot of assumptions. You don’t know the victim’s political party or how he feels about muslims.
You are clearly suffering from a cognitive disorder that prevents you from distinguishing between your paranoia and hatred of normality and the observation that your subculture is being attacked by a group that you are too gutless and dishonest to recognize as the cultural cancer that it is. I’m sorry if my appreciation of irony is too sophisticated for your narrow-minded and short-sighted PC sensibilities.
Wrong. I have been warning of the Muslim threat for many years. You are attacking an ally. I am sorry that your dislike of LGBTs overrides your ability to perceive reality. That will not serve you well in the battles to come.
You’re the only one, here, resorting to ad hominems. What right do you have to condemn someone for not risking their life to come to the aid of a hypothetical third party. You are the one behaving thuggishly. Crawl back under your rock.
I doubt anyone wants your “aid” Manniep.
Then you’ll be happy when you get none, no doubt.
Indeed. Ultimately, we are all responsible for ourselves and our families.
Happily, we live on a secular Republic, so people like you cannot impose your personal religious beliefs on the rest of us.
I have a feeling, doll, that you when the dust settles, you will be the one looking for another place to live. I believe the SCOTUS is going to rule for marriage equality in June. If you don’t like it, perhaps you should move to a more “godly” country, like ISIS land. If, by some chance, the SCOTUS does not rule for equality, I will still be living here in the land of my birth, and if you ever threaten me or mine, I am quite capable of self defense. GFY.
Read your precious Bible which says marriage is one man, multiple women. Kinda like ISIS.
It is really pathetic that you are so insecure that you have to insult the relationships of others. Enjoy your life. Signing off.
sounds like the islamic terror durkas to me!
Straw man argument. No one is condoning the violence. The perp should be handled by the law, just as every similar perp is handled. They are violent Democrats, and need to be off the streets. We just have no sympathy when a pacifist is attacked.
Have you spit on a Pacifist today?
No, I leave the spitting to children and uncivilized, uneducated haters. Most well bred adults have compassion for their fellow citizens and realize that not all people are meant to be warriors.
you sound for all the world like a muslim pig pretending to not be one.
The cool thing is, I can spot the other subversives that upvote you!
neato!
What strikes me is not this excellent argument so much, but it’s the fact that in the enemedia there is not even an argument – Islam is whitewashed clean! YES, liberals are the enemy (the friend of my enemy is my enemy) and the enemy is the liberal media. I totally understand where you’re coming from and this is the nub of it! Your conviction has done a whole lot of good here in this thread, you’re right. So now, never capitulate!
Thanks for the kind words. Don’t worry, Paul. I only back off when I’m wrong…which isn’t often.
Theoretically, you are probably correct but I sympathize with handgunner. You can tell a willful child only so many times not to touch the hot stove. Finally, you have to step back and let him learn by painful experience.
Classy?, maybe not. Karma you betcha!
How do you know the state of the man’s karma? Way to blame the victim.
Liberals & Gays push for multiculturalism day in and day out. Now it is an issue when that Karma bites them in the butt? (no pun intended). They like to force their views and beliefs on us, yet when a muslim knocks them over the head with a chair they wonder why we just don’t care.
If you don’t care when your fellow citizens are assaulted it begs the question whether you are fit to live in a civilized society. When the Muslims think they can engage in public beat downs none of us are safe.
When your fellow citizens tell you muslims aren’t safe and you call them names to ridicule them for saying so, then a smack with a chair over the head is actually what the doc prescribed.
Where did you get your information that the gentleman who was assaulted ridiculed anyone? Many gays are well aware of and active in the movement to expose the threat of islamofascism.
He was gentle for sure the muslim not so much.
How do you know he (the gentleman) identifies as male? See two can play this game. You know I was referring to the liberal/gay movement.
The “liberal/gay movement”. What about the conservative/gay movement?
How do you know the person who was beaten was not a gay conservative like me?
See I should have figured it out. As far as I know gay conservatives don’t force their views onto others, I also know that the liberal gay movement doesn’t much care for the conservative gay movement. Once again my comment was about the liberal gay (I’m speculating, but I’m reasonably sure they outnumber the conservative gay movement), but tell you what, just like moderate muslims should keep the radical ones in check, maybe the conservative gay movement should do the same with the radical liberal gay movement. After all they give gay folks (like yourself) a bad reputation.
You could say that about any subculture. We cannot control others. The character of each person is his or hers alone.
Why are you named after a character in a Pink Floyd song?
When we all know roger waters is a pinko britard?
are YOU a pinko britard too?
Time for Americas to put aside their differences and combat the REAL enemy, the subversive vile islamic pigs that preach against citizens, left or right.
How do we do that when half the country either doesn’t understand who the enemy is or actually apologizes/excuses/still blaming Bush?
A person who is not willing to defend themself, and even more, a person who would deny me the right of defense, has no right to expect anyone to defend them. Only you can protect you.
Tell it to the people in the old folks homes and children who have no idea about all the violence in the world. I am a Second Amendment supporter, but not everyone wants to live their life on high alert. Police are a necessity in a civilized society, and the citizenry should be able to rely on police protection. Not everyone wants to walk around carrying a gun at all times.
These are indeed very worthy of defense, What can I say? But those will ALSO soon enough agree with us “True Dem. Cit’ s or at least not contradict us, we can just as well count them as “ours”.
We mean the accountable people, supposed to be warned, but ignoring the warnings, turning against the warners instead of the enemies.
The ones who deliberately oppose us, want to be “independent”. They too have that same responsibility towards the children and the elderly and they too should explain THEIR position to them, just as you want us to do. Why would not EVERYBODY feel responsible for them???
In the long run we argue that our strategy to save them from death, violence, oppression is according to us sounder than the strategy of liberals or no strategy at all to save them.
The liberal v conservative labels are simplistic and carry a lot of baggage. The main issue I see is uncontrolled immigration of undesireables into the US. We must all unite to stop it. Labels and name calling scare away blue dog dems who we need as allies.
who do you think 99% of gay people are!? that was one of the main points of the article. the very 1st paragraph reads “In the notoriously leftwing media, Muslim trumps gay. Surprised? Don’t be. In numerous Muslim on gay crimes in uber-left Seattle and America’s gay capital San Francisco, when Muslims attack gays, the media and the law enforcement protect — the Muslims. Their ideology, their motive is never questioned, analyzed or spoken of.”
– See more at: http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2015/05/video-muslim-attacks-gay-couple-in-ny-restaurant.html/#sthash.Z6Q3qrkg.dpuf
they come to America to mess with ANYONE
they die.
Hey, I have a question.
Why are you named after a character in a Pink Floyd song?
When we all know pink floyd is for britard pinkos and roger waters, the lead singer, is a well known anti American britard pinko?
Just curious why a supposed ‘right winger’ would pick a name from pink floyd, seems a tad odd, mate.
And if you like to deny it, look at your postings, the times are all london zone?
huh…
Do my posts seem to be britard pinko to you? I didn’t realize I was required to get your approval for my avatar, you sound like a card carrying progressive to me, judging by what you see and not the content of my posts. What avatar would you approve of, please, tell me, I so wish to acquire your approval?
Sounds more like you’re ripe to be recruited by our enemies.
They’ve created a mess.
True statement, regrettably. And a great comment on what defying natural law, and denying common sense, have together done to our nation.
First they come for me…..who cares ? We should all care. Your point , sadly , is a good one.
I care —- because guess what? We’re next. Have you forgotten what the Nazis did about 60 years ago??? No one cared until Hitler started to take over Europe and annihilating those he deemed less than himself and/or appeared different from himself. What better way to attack a citizenry than by attacking it one piece at a time —- keeping us fighting each other. If we don’t uphold the Constitution, anarchy will reign.
Gays aren’t protecting or defending muslims at all. Where do you get your info?
The left sold their souls a long time ago. They always come down on the side of evil.
Only the leaders of the left and the welfare thugs. Most rank and file blue dog Dems dislike and fear the Muslims.
But not enough to vote for a better class of Democrat….assuming that there IS such a thing.
Most of the Dems I know did not vote for O the second time around.
That’s unlikely, considering the fact that practically no other demographic did.
What a dilemma for a liberal…Do I defend the gay’s or the Muslim?
Isn’t it obvious what side the lieberals have chosen? How many lieberals condemn islamic-nazi states for their treatment of the LGBT community? Instead they criticise Christianity.
Oh…wait, wait…I know…they’ll defend Hillary and “her” crimes…;)
So when Muslims beat gays, who do the liberals defend?
Libtards bury uncomfortable news.
Who cares? The prosecutor and jury will take care of this violent animal.
Sure they will.
Knowing the muslim friendly justice system of today, do you really believe that?
Depends on the demographics of the community and the skill of the prosecutors. Ask Marcia Clark. I bet she kicked herself for not moving OJ’s trial to Santa Monica. Maybe they need to move this one upstate, so the People can get a fair trial.
Do you think you’ll be trying muslim-nazis for honor killings in Dearbornistan, Michigan? All it would take is one fellow muslim-nazi as a juror and you’ll have hung trials.
Shades of OJ. Like I said, they would need to have the trial moved, or else have a lot of challenges of jurors “for cause”. I see your point. It is a dilemma.
It’ll only be getting worse. Dearbornistan PD and their judiciary have already been complicit in violating the civil rights of Christians. Do you think the muslim-nazis and their collaborators won’t stoop to violate the civil rights of the LGBT community as well?
No, I do not. That is pretty obvious. Most of my lesbian friends hate Obama, half didn’t vote for him and the other half regret having done so.
We can see where the US is going by looking at the no go areas in France. At least the French have banned the burka. When will the US get some leaders to stand up for our culture?
David Wood, one of the Christians whose civil rights were violated and was thrown in jail without cause in Dearbornistan, reported a sympathetic Dearbornistan PD officer telling him that honor killings were being covered up by law enforcement and the judiciary in Dearbornistan.
I stand by David Wood’s right to pass out Bibles and tell the truth about Islam. I think most Americans do. It is our elite which is out of touch.
“out of touch” is putting it mildly. Anyway, have a good one Ms. Schmidt!
Thumbs up to those thoughts Ms. Schmidt. Of course it’s painfully obvious the islamic-nazis that run the Dearbornistan PD don’t agree w/you.
I really couldn’t care less what those unsavory pedophiles think. America is waking up and the islamofascists are still greatly outnumbered by us. They are overplaying their hand. Almost time to call their bluff.
Ms. Schmidt, a depressing observation might be that at some point in the 1930’s, Nazis were a small minority of Germans.
True, but an uplifting observation is that the Nazis were beaten in the end. Let’s hope we get an earlier start with the islamofascists. Time to outlaw islam as a seditious socio-political system. No more muslim immigration.
It’s too bad you’re not running for POTUS, you’d get my vote hands down.
LOL. That must be a sign of how desperate we all are for some leadership. I wish Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer would run. They would sure beat a Christie/Fiorina ticket hands down.
Christie? The islamic-nazi collaborator from New Joisy who hosts Eid dinners and appoints muslims to superior court judgeships? I hope practically anything beats such a ticket.
Christie is a known islamic collaborator. He hosts Eid dinners at this gubernatorial mansion and has appointed a muslim to the superior court bench. This is the 2nd time I’ve posted this and I’ll be interested to see if it’s not censored.
Christie hosts Eid dinners at the gubernatorial mansion. Christie appointed a muslim to the superior court bench. This is the third time I’ve posted this and it’s been deleted w/o cause.
Don’t worry. That fat bastard doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell. Anyone who cannot control their own gluttony will never make it to the White House.
Did you know the facts I posted about C-h-r-i-s-t-i-e were deleted two times before you actually read it?
No. I wonder who did that. I have never seen any censorship on this site.
In my part of Californication the number of muslim-nazis sitting in juror pools as potential jurors is alarming, but I have a worse tale to tell:
One of my friends in Palm Desert witnessed a muslim stealing money out of a tip jar at a Starbucks, when he said something to the muzzie, the muzzie pulled a knife on him and threatened him with it. The muzzie was arrested, but no charges were filed on him by the muslim DA. A similar story happened in Pennsylvania and had the exact same outcome.
That is horrendous. I agree with you that there has been a definite tainting of the jury pool nationwide.
Isn’t “gay” and “couple” an oxymoron?
You’re going to have to dig deeper.
“islam” and “religion of peace” is an oxymoron.
Totes!
Umbrella.
It’s a down-right lie…
No. Many of us gays have lived in couples for decades. If it is not for you, great, but no need to put others down – unless you are trying to cover up your insecurities about your own sexuality. Any happy, red-blooded straight man or woman couldn’t care less if gays get married.
Not a put down at all. Sorry you took it as that.
I just cant belive the way you americans ignore such an attack on your freedom, how cowardly you became
It’s because just like in Canada, and worse yet in England, the leftists have weakened the society to the extent that people are afraid to say anything. They have everyone so afraid of being labeled with some typical leftist label such as “bigot”, “racist”, or some sort of “-phobe” that nobody wants to speak up anymore. Until people stop fearing the leftist labels, our societies will continue to erode. Why should we feel bad for having built great countries that so many people are quite literally dying to get into? I don’t feel bad one bit, and if that makes me a bigot in some leftists twisted mind, so be it! The leftists are the true bigots. What makes leftist bigotry so much worse is it’s against their own culture!
Not only are they bigots. They are lazy bigots. That is why all this redistribution of wealth talk and action. Reparations, affirmative action, Aztlan. It never ends. They want our stuff.
If a liberal calls me a “racist” or “bigot”…then I know I’m doing the right thing…(no pun intended on the “right” thing)
I love when a piece of shit from another country knocks the US. Note there is no indication where the asshole identifying himself as me is from.
Sharia law gay rights neither belong. Meaning just because you are a muslim does not mean your radical laws and ways is wanted in this country, america. I can tell you now keep your brutality, your sharia laws, your cave men mentality against women that women is nothing in your beliefs to your self. Your religion is not the only religion. Gay people have been around since the beginning of time. I realize that they want the same rights as heterosexuals. They must divorce just like a man and a woman. GOD CALLS HOMOSEXUALITY AN ABOMINATION OF THE WORLD I AGREE BUT THEIR PUNISHMENT WHATEVER IT IS IS GODS JUDGEMENT NOT US HUMANS. I CANNOT TELL THEM HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIVES JUST LIKE THEY CANNOT TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MINE. Muslims is trying to rule the world and that is not the way GOD, allah, or budah or whatever religion there is out there wants it. Muslims stay with your own sect, tribe, people. If you want to follow sharia laws go ahead but for the rest of us we will choose, not the muslims, who we worship or how we live our lives. KEEP YOUR RELIGION, LAWS AND FOOD AND DRESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO YOURSELF. WE AMERICANS ARE FINE WORSHIPPING, LIVING OUR LIVES THE WAY WE WANT TO.
Excellent points. Good fences make good neighbors. That is what is great about America – we can all live as we please and not try to force it on others.
Good points, but…allah “does” want them to do all of this…it says for them to…in the qur’an.
from the mad king burn them all muslims need to burn
Trust me…they “will”…when the time comes…
One day, the American people, with their 300 million guns, are going to get wise and start hunting down these vermin and killing them dead, just like they kill us. And there won’t be anything so-called “law enforcement” can do about it. The muslims and the police will be far out-numbered. They asked for it, many times over. I can hardly wait until the day when the people turn on them en-masse.
I have a feeling the police will be on our side. Obama’s cleansed, infiltrated Armed Forces may be conflicted.
What the heck is a Muslim doing in a deviant homo restaurant that serves deadly barbeque?
Sounds igorant.
BBQ reminds muslims of how their prophet burns in HELL.
I think his punishment should be to eat a hundred pulled pork sandwiches at one sitting, on video. We could stand some circuses to go with the breadcrumbs Obama passes out.
Make it a hundred “long pork”, instead.
Maybe he got mad because he “propositioned” one of them…and was told, “No”. With muslims…one can never tell…;)
To despise a lifestyle choice is okay; to despise a sexual deviance is okay; BUT to physically attack the person carrying out that lifestyle choice or sexual practice (short of being a pedophile, of course) is NOT acceptable and it is not to be tolerated in this Country. This is assault, plain and simple. AND the belief that you must kill these men in order to do “allah” a service and obey his commands is just plain EVIL.
Islam is a Hate Crime.
…on all humanity.
Thanks for summarizing this violence against gays. Most gays are living in their little bubble and clueless about the threat. It is sad that our leaders are going to wait until there are numerous mass killings to do something about the muslim infiltration of our country, if they ever do anything about it.
A career criminal: like the dog mohammed.
Thank goodness that the poor homosexual victims weren’t in the presence of hateful Christian bakers, or they might have really gotten hurt.
Ha-ha-ha!
Bravo!!
The Christian baker would probably have defended them, only to be castigated for not drinking every drop of the Rainbow Kool-Aid.
somebody should have stuck a fork in that fu-ks neck !!!
What he did was disgusting but the black guy who stepped up to take a picture of one of the guys then walked away without helping is just as much a pig & savage as the moslem. in many ways social media has taken our humanity. Taking a picture to post on facebook or sell to the media was more important than assisting someone who has just been hit over the head with a chair.
there are people on that level right here on this thread.
This Muslim is being mild. Things are going to get ugly once the Muslim population is going to hit higher percentages. Amsterdam was once the gay capital of the world. Absolute tolerance and freedom. Netherlands was also probably the first country adopting gay marriage legislation. Yeah well, good luck as a gay couple holding hands with Moroccan youth walking by these days. Couple of hours stitching you up in the hospital if you are lucky. If you are not lucky, a bit longer, quite a bit longer….
But hey, this is such cultural enrichment according to the left, so who cares. Muslims are a minority and so, by default, they are are always victim. This tolerance for intolerance is how the Nazi’s toppled the Weimar Republic. USA will not go that fast for now, but some European nations with low birth rate vs high Muslim birth rates and mass Muslim immigration will get into trouble in the middle long future. I even think this is not reversible anymore and while fascism and communism are systems that can be replaced, this religious fascism is sticky as hell. You can not erase the leadership and then be done with it. It’s a road with no coming back.
You had to be there to believe what is going on. I don’t know how to explain this to our children.
I re.ember reading about this and even in the UK, his religion was scrubbed.
Awe..boo hoo. Some normally peaceful Muslims (lmfao) were in a funk..or had a bad childhood..or were called names or discriminated against or smelled bacon or were offended by a Crucifix or ____________ fill in the blank with a BS liberal excuse. Too bad for this gay couple and other gay couples but they probably all vote for sharia compliant politicians (democrats). In other words, they deserved an ass beating.
I just cannot get all outraged when two perverts are beat up for their perversion…nice to see the Muzzie taking care of business!
Repugnant remark. And un-American.
Hey San Fran- consider this a preview! Coming to you soon! Ha-ha-ha!
If you don’t like gays move back home to that terrible part of the world
Pamela Geller – you must be very ashamed of some people who express such hatred against their fellow Americans on this thread.
I am referring to those who say they’d like to see gays and liberals killed by Muslims. If you read the remarks you’ll notice that several people posing as “Americans” here would actually relish seeing millions of their fellow citizens killed by Muslims. Is it really coming to this? Seems to me that in this regard they’re promoting Muslim extremism and in fact allying themselves with it. Watch out for the wolves in sheeps’ clothing who claim they agree with Pamela Geller, but when the chips are down, they’d not defend their fellow Americans.
Are muslims w/US citizenship also your “fellow Americans”?
Well I certainly don’t advocate murdering all of them.
Do u notice muslims anywhere taking any concrete action to stop the slaughter of non-muslims in ISIS or Nigeria? Do u notice muslims anywhere taking any concrete action to stop the enslavement of non-muslims going on in Mauritania, the Sudan or ISIS? Do you notice muslims anywhere taking any concrete action to stop the persecution of people of other faiths that is SOP in all islamic states? Do you notice muslims anywhere calling for justice for non-muslims who have suffered genocide at the hands of the muslims anywhere (e.g. Bangladesh, E. Timor, Turkey, Sudan)?
I love it when one protected group beats another protected group and the press and
police down play the “minority” group.
How can we break the media coverup of Islamic anti-gay hatred? It seems as though the mainstream media are all working for Obama.
They are…
a gay congressman from colorado got togethr with a muslim congressman andre carson to pass a bill to make it unlawful for christians to discdriminate against gay customers (such as refusing to make a gay wedding cake)…the muslim defends gay rights out of expediency in an effort to garner supporters for his islamic cause …it is a form of taquiyyah, the friend of my enemy is my friend. Herein lies the dilemma and danger. I wish conservatives who are fighting the good fight against islamization would stop demonizing all gay people and address the real issues. Unfortunately those people who are fighting islamism are also the very people who discriminate against lgbt people based on bad reading of their scripture ( or should i say cherry picking and selective following of their scripture – which actually condemns divorce, sloth, greed, jealousy, covetousness, lying , lust etc –which would render all conservatives sinners par excellence lol ).
Congressman Keith Ellison also supports gay marriage ( also a form of taquiyyah strategy for long term support from the ultra left and gay constituents ). Muslims are willing to go against their religion for the purpose of strengthening islam . They are targeting minorities like blacks and hispanics and native american indians and (gasp ) gays and lesbians /lgbt people ….egging them to fight the conservatives and reminding the minorities to ally themselves with islamists since they are all minorities. Unfortunately minority groups like lgbt people do not realize that allying themselves with the Devil for short term gain will result in ominous long term enslavement and eventual annihilation should islam prevail in our western culture and society.
IT IS IRONIC THAT WHILE MUSLIM POLITICIANS ARE SUPPORTING GAYS , their co-religionists meantime are killing, executing, murdering lgbt people on sight . As the % of islamists/mohammadians increase in the US lgbt people will face more and more persecution at the hands of these newcomers. In England altho muslims are only 2% of the population , they commit 25% of all hate crimes against lgbt people,…imagine if their % of the host country becomes 10%…..and this scenario is playing out already in holland where lgbt people are assaulted ,attacked , harrased daily by muslim youths , thugs….erstwhile holland was the most liberal and safe place for a lgbt person to live and work in…not anymore.
I dont have a good solution to this matter. Perhaps conservative and those who are in the fore front fighting islamisation of the US should consider focusing their efforts on Islam/mohammadianism rather than wasting their resources in action that tries to deny the rights and equal treatment of a class of people who did not ask to be born with a certain orientation. To me discriminating against a gay person is like discriminating against someone born left handed. Human sexuality is very complicated and science now shows that homosexuality is a biological variant and not deviancy or harmful, in fact in the scheme of a larger biological picture homosexuality serves an altruistic function in natural selection and evolution of the species. Perhaps the day will come when people no longer take relgious superstition seriously and start beating their children for being left handed . For now i will be content if religious conservatives get serious and stop worrying about evolution, school prayers, and gays ( start mending fences with gays and other groups, feminists, abortion etc ).and start directing their resources to fight islamization of our judeo christian secular humanist culture and society.
We ie the left and the right should become allies …we don’t necessarily have to agree on everything or love each other or be friends ..we just need to be allies, the conservatives, the christians, jews, hindus ,buddhists, pagans, atheists , agnosts, taoists/confucianists, bahaiis, mormons, jehovah witness, etc..should all realize that in the eyes of islam we are all kafirs/infidels ….and the islamist narrative is that we are the most vile of allah’s creatures and even death is too good for us ! We are not taling about muslims !…individual muslims may be very nice people as their humanity shines thro and eclipse the horrific teachings and doctrines of Mohammadianism . Islam is Islam it is neither moderate nor radical….it is Nazism with a God and then worse ….for even the most craven of nazis will not stoop so low as to honor kill his own daughter or stone his wife to death !
YES EVERYONE BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT SHOULD WAKE UP AND STOP OUR PETTY SQUABBLE AND SEE THE MOHAMMADIAN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND IN CONCERT FIGHT THIS EVIL and TEAR DOWN THIS WALL/veil/burka BEFORE THE SOLDIERS OF ALLAH MAKE MINCE PORK OF ALL OF US !
France Gays are turning to Marine Le Pen’s anti-Islam party as they are slowly waking up.
We got to show the Gay push is damaging Christianity that offered them freedom. Take that freedom away and Sharia steps in and pity the Gays. We have to wake up the Gays as their heads first on chopping block with records left with government departments that Islam will enjoy.
All events today remind me of early stages of Nazism.
There are 751 no go zones in France now.
Ya know…the LGBT crowd just loves to “hate on Christians”, but when it comes to their mortal enemy…literally, a mortal enemy and “their” religion…you never hear anything. Never a peep from the homosexual crowd about a “religion” that actively and openly executes homosexuals in countries controlled by this religion…namely…islam. I wonder why? Fear, maybe? Apathy, maybe? In any case they need to stop the “hating” on Christians…Christians won’t kill them, but…islam will.
One point for Christians – they don’t actually kill gays and liberals.
Muslim fanatics like this chair wielding ape need to be gunned down old west style. these %$#holes presume to be judge jury and executioner. they need at the very least to be shot in the knees, privates, to seriously wound and cripple them, that poor customer could have instantly died from a fractured skull from that chair hit.
what was he doing at a BBQ anyway! PORK!!!
I support most gay issues, and have many gay friends, but I have little sympathy when uber liberals, as most gays are, get attacked. They are against my right to defend myself. Let them enjoy getting the snot beat out of them.
Or carry a gun like decent people do, and protect yourself.
Your gay acquaintances must be brain-addled to count you as a friend.
I am tempted to laugh at the bizarre irony of this conflict. I appreciate the seemingly traditional family values of the Muslim. But as you compare them to Christianity we sort of part ways in the violence area. We say “leave room for God’s wrath, vengeance is His.” God’s plan of salvation is based on free-will choice. So if God’s plan is turned down and refused then you have said to Him “i don’t want to be near you when I die.”
The irony is that the 3 views worship 3 different gods. The god of the homosexual is either self or a fantasy, the god of the Muslim is Satan and the God of Christians is the God of the Jews, Yhwh. So at death the homosexual and the Muslim will arrive together for judgement and spend eternity together.
Nonsense. Dead is dead.
One mentally unbalanced derelict beating another. Who cares!? I care about as much as I do when a liberal ‘nature lover’ tries to breast-feed a rattlesnake! Let “nature” take her course! lol
This is the sort of thing certain Germans thought and said when they saw Nazis beating Jews not so long ago.
We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin.
I think I agree! So true. We are all Americans. Your question about Muslim Americans is disturbing and tough.
No matter what the paperwork says, the only “muslim Americans” are those who rebelled and quit islam – at the peril of their lives. You can count them on the fingers of your hands.
There are no more “muslim Americans” than there are African Americans, or Italian Americans, etc.. You are an American or you are not, irrespective of where you or your ancestors came from.
In the case of muslims, no matter what the paperwork says, the only true Americans among them are those who rebelled and quit islam – at the peril of their lives. You can count them on the fingers of your hands. The rest are just muslims, but don’t take my word for it.
I am sure there are religious Muslims who are good patriotic Americans. Are you going to regard every Muslim you meet here as an enemy?
If you are sure that any devout muslim can be a good patriotic American in this day and age, excuse me, but you are a fool.
I regard all of them, especially the devout ones, in the same way I would have regarded any patriotic German on the British soil during the years 1933-45. Yes, definitely as a potential enemy. Not to be mistreated out of the blue, of course, but certainly not to be trusted under any circumstances.
We are at war, a war they have declared on us. When it’s over, you will be able to sort them out all you want.
“Not to be mistreated out of the blue, of course, but certainly not to be trusted under any circumstances.” I’m glad you wouldn’t mistreat any of them. Yes, I seem to go on alert when I notice a woman in a burka. But here in San Francisco we have a wonderful deli owned by Palestinians near my house. I’ve never felt unsafe going there, even though I’m Jewish. I actually pity religious Muslims living here and I’m sure most of them have no evil intentions. Personally, I don’t understand how anyone could believe in religious fantasies of any sort, but especially not a religion that so stringently demands to be part of every minute of life and is so unforgiving essentially of other faiths. Most importantly for me I am deeply insulted by the way women are treated in Muslim countries and maybe even in this country. It is completely unacceptable.
The muslims are certainly modern day Nazis, agreed. And as they sided with the anti-Jew Nazis 75 years ago, too bad only the Nazis were condemned and banned. However, the Jews were the persecuted and Gays today are the persecutors. And until the Gay community attack Islam equally as much as they presently attack the Christians with such hate & vitriol, I’m fine with mopping up whoever is left over. And that’s from an agnostic!
I was about to suggest this as a research topic for a professor friend of mine.
Too bad it’s been done. In line with my hypothesis:
I saw some gays at a pro palestinian rally DEFENDING Palestinians. I wonder how many openly gay people live in Gaza.
If they’re openly gay in Gaza they aren’t among the living.
Liberals are Islam’s Useful Idiots – I’m done caring for their perpetual social issues and their never-ending blame “conservatives/christians/bush/whitey/hetero” games. I’m grabbing some popcorn, sitting on my couch and waiting to watch them spar.
I’m crying right now. Im crying for the fact that these Muslim animals are getting away with this behavior. I’m crying because our effen president has put a stop on all Muslim incidents and will not allow them to be prosecuted. I’m crying because our government – local and federal – are supporting this death-ridden ideology. I’m crying because these sad excuses for human beings are taking over our country and no one is stopping them. I’m cryjng because our law enforcement and attorneys are protecting these heathens, while lining their pockets with ARAB monies. And I’m crying because you libtards are so ignorant and stupid and don’t see what is happening to our country and world. When you are made into nothing by these creatures, and the knife is at your neck then you will be crying too!
Crying is not going to help. Fight.
Welcome to the Obamatollah’s and the Islamocrats’ Ameriqiya
You reap what you sow . If you support radical muslims you beget radical muslims . FACT.
anyone notice the bastard in the blue shirt who went up and took a photo then walked away? what a strange world we live in!
And those are just a few more reasons why I’m DONE with the liberal left-wing hypocritical morons.
Stupid libs!
That’s it in a nutshell.
They should have a pocket pistol and shot the piece of trash Muslim!
Yes, the American population of Islamist miscreants is probably beyond 2% and heading toward 5% and we’ll see more brazen attacks and more often from now on. All the while the police will be told to keep it quiet so we can pretend that nothing happened. And if a riot happens, the Politicians will just let things burn. Oh, I feel safer already because the police are busy “Serving and Protecting” Islam. The Politicians are busy serving and protecting Islam. I better hurry up and get to a Mosque so I can convert and wear my little white cap and be on the winning side. Because it seems like nobody’s going to do nothing. Oh, I can’t really do that…because after they get done executing anyone who is not Islam…then they go thru and kill all of the new converts and their “Moderate Islamic Brothers”. So I suppose the best case scenario is to just admit defeat, use a series of our nukes to target all of the geological hot spots (like the Yellowstone Caldera) and initiate a series of volcanic extinction level events. That will solve the Islam problem, global warming, war, famine, disease…it’ll effectively solve all of our problems in a very short period of time. A global volcanic multiple year winter and a new ice age for a few thousand years. Maybe new life in the distant future will get it right. JUST KIDDING. But sometimes reading all of this stuff makes me want to hurl big time chunks. Because we’re in a situation where it seems like the only option is “Lose-Lose”. A group of individuals with a 1400 year history and a noted history that is only about HATE, WAR, and DEATH. That’s the bottom line. And our leaders are scared to death…so they’re totally impotent. They’re afraid of being called a Racist or an Islamophobe. “Sticks and Stones Can Break My Bones, But Words Will Never Hurt Me.” They’re frozen like a Deer in the headlights.
I wish it wasn’t so…I really do. According to the dictates of Islam they want World Domination. I wouldn’t want that to happen. Because ISLAM IS REALLY A DEAD SOCIETY. You look at their Countries and they’re basically garbage. If it wasn’t for western technology, they’d still be riding Camels. Islam will keep them frozen in the 7th Century. The most they can hope for is death. In the end I really feel sorry for them. But if death comes, they should be the first to go.