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Here’s what jihadists sought to snuff out last night. Truth and freedom

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Phillip Jones
Phillip Jones
8 years ago

Two dead islamists, one of our own was wounded (only shot in the ankle, released after a few hours from the hospital). We must NEVER let them stop us from exercising our own freedom of expression in our own country. NEVER surrender to their abhorrent agenda.

Peter
Peter
8 years ago
Reply to  Phillip Jones

Can;t agree with you more. Only if those politicians have eyes to see. Sad indeed, if freedom of expression is stifled by those barbarians.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago

PAMELA, I just heard what happened. I (especially as a Jew), am so sickened!! Under sharia law the penalty for insulting Islam or Mohammad is death. Though, we do not have sharia law here, we have freedom of freakin’ speech!!!! People criticizing you are supporting the Mulims and sharia law here. This shows what we are looking at now and in the future. HOW CAN WE GET MUSLIMS DEPORTED. I AM READY TO CONTACT OUR LOCAL REPS, WE NEED TO GET THESE A’HOLES OUT OF THE STATES. How do we go about this???

Charlie
Charlie
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

PAMELA, Brook is damn right, we need to find out how can we get Muslim DEPORTED.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Charlie

Obviously, it won’t be until the next Election! Part of Deportation process, is getting liberals out of the White House! or they will be the DEATH of us!!! Freedom of Speech shall not ever be destroyed, we need Politicians who will stand up and fight and deport the Muslims that are here already and STOP allowing more to enter the U.S. or it will be the death of us. Prayers AND making sure your friends and families are not to be voting liberal. Their heads are in a planet that none of us even know about.

Elijah mann
Elijah mann
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Brooke you’re on to a good thing here, how does one get rid of these Muslim extremists (actually most of them) and send them back to their abysmal country of origin?

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Elijah mann

Elijah, You first need to understand that you need to Repeat this over and over in your head and get it to stick. “it is ALL MUSLIMS”. Why don’t you open the Quran, it is all the same. Whoever is lying to you, you better stay far from them. The readings are for ALL MUSLIMS. Open the book

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

It`s not Islam its only Palestine land that bothers Jews so stop dragging religion just go there kill each and every Muslim and claim that land that’s how simple it is. This whole war is for land other wise there in no reason you will guide Muslims that this is right and that`s wrong neither Muslims have to tell you this. its a individual choice what religion he wants to choose.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

It’s not Islam, really? Sounds like your head is deep into the sand. Who else here disagrees with Sami Murtaza?

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

And how could you say that its Islam Due to some A`hole act you cant judge every Muslim same I would say for Jews due to some arrogant brainwashed stupid Jews i can`t judge all Jews.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Some A’hole act, as you state? Sounds like you need to read the Qaran, there is only one, and it states what Muslims are to do to all that are not Muslim. You are the one that needs to research.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Thats the Surah Tawbah This surah was revealed at the time of the Battle of
Tabuk Now let me tell you the
historical background of this Surah. The series of events that have been
discussed in this Surah took place after the Peace Treaty of Hudaibiyah which
was in between Muslims and Non Muslims and at that time many Muslims
were killed by Non-Muslims in return this surah revealed and for your kind
information it was for that time only

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Did you know that Michael Adebolajo, The Muslim who killed Lee Rigby, quoted from Surah Tawba right after the killing? As his motivation.

I take it you would say he misunderstood it, and did not consider it only time-bound, like you.

But we can say; look, these binding holy texts of yours get misunderstood and misused far too much!

And why don’t you make a democracy-friendly interpretation of them that is binding to an organisation that calls itself “Democratic Muslims” and that will kick out the misunderstanders like Michael Adobelajo!!

THAT would restore your credibility and trustworthyness.
That your constant denials in the face of mountains of evidence does not.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

1. Shariah Law n the the Quran? Saved from NewsMax reply 4-6-15

So I guess as a Muslim they do not obey the following: ?

Surah 9:5 / Surah 5:33 / Surah 47:4 / Surah 4:95 / Surah 8:15-17/ Surah 8:74

Surah 47:4 =extortion or DEATH / Surah 61:10 / Surah 3:157 / Surah
2:216-217 / Surah 5:35 Surah 8:39 ( Keep fighting until Islam is the
only religion) / Surah 8:57

Surah 9:29 / Surah 48:16 / Surah12:9-14 / Surah 47:35 / Surah 48:29

Commanding all Muslims to murder everyone that does not join the fight
to kill all others that do not follow Islam. That this is the only way
that Alla will grant you salvation.

2. In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake,
alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with
demonic
verses, as if they were actually revealed by God.—-The true, vital
issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were
unable to distinguish Satan’s voice from God’s voice, then could there
be verses in the Qur’an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were
really from Satan?”

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

These acts are straight out of the Koran. Believers in Islam do not ever
intend to get along with anyone that is not a 100% believer-follower of
the Islam Religion. It is not a Peaceful Religion. If you doubt, go to
any very good library or visit a Rabbi that has copies of the Koran.
They are essentially taking over every Civilized De world and they are doing it through rapid COLONIZATION that has been
going on for decades now in the USA, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Italy, etc. to name a few. Obama has authorized 3.2 Million Arab-Islamist
from Syria as immigrants into the U. S. and this does not count all the
other Islamist immigrating from other Islamist Nations. The Syrians are
Shariah Islam. The 2 post below were by others and it isgoing to be
very important in coming elections.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

😀 by posting some lie again and again it wont change it to truth so please ready complete Quran then discuss these verses with me.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

1. Most of the Prophets mentioned in the Holy Quran are from the Children of Israel. These include: Moses, Aaron, Yusuf (Joseph), David, Solomon, Zachariah, Younis (Jonah). In fact, Jesus – the Messiah – was one of the Children of Israel. Therefore, condemning or even just insulting all Jews by calling them names is an offense, not just against modern day Jews but also all these prophets as well who, even though they were of Jewish descent, are nonetheless considered by Muslims to be the brothers of prophet Mohamed and must be strongly forbidden (Haram) and prohibited.

2. Condemning all modern-day Jews by the actions or mistakes of their forefathers is against the Quran which clearly states that no one is responsible for the mistakes of others:

6:164 Say: “Shall I seek for (my) Cherisher other than Allah, when He is the Cherisher of all things (that exist)? Every soul is responsible for of its acts: no bearer of burdens can bear of burdens can bear the burden of another. Your goal in the end is towards God. He will tell you the truth of the things wherein ye disputed.”

Accordingly, and based on this verse, judging All Jews by the possible mistakes of their forefathers or because of historical conflicts between some Jewish tribes and the early Muslims is absolutely forbidden (Haram).

3. It is further important to note that, in the original Arabic, this Quranic verse does not even use the word “Jews,” which was added later in parenthesis to English translations and Arabic commentaries of the Quran). The Quran was actually referring to another nation by saying “worse than this” as he was talking about the Israelites who did not follow Moses in the verses before this one.
2- In fact, this verse could be understood in a metaphoric manner as the expression “Monkey” is used metaphorically in Arabic to refer to people who imitate without thinking and the word “pigs” is used metaphorically too to describe those who refuse good principles and prefer the bad ones.

4. Many other verses in the Quran, far from condemning the Jews, reveal an exalted status for the Children of Israel:

Quran 2:47 “Children of Israel! Call to mind the favor which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all other nations”

5. Muslims should also bear in mind that the Quran clearly states that Jews and Christians, and others, will be accepted by God as long as they believe in his existence, his judgment, and perform good deeds (e.g., assisting the poor and orphaned).

2:62 Those who believe (in the Qur’an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

(Note: in the above verse, the Quran says “their Lord” – not “your Lord” – which clearly indicates that God will accept Jews and Christians, based on their individual conceptions of God.)

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

//”that no one is responsible for the mistakes of others:”//

Right, very good.

But one is responsible for choice of religion and staying in same organisation, the Ummah, with clear anti-Democratic self-confessed Muslims.

All Muslims should make it clear;
1. Is there is there not a contradiction between Islamic law and democratic law? In their opinion. If not OK.
2. If so, which will they choose to follow, the Islamic or the Democratic law?

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Your attitude is that you try to declare that no Muslim is anti-democratic and chooses Islam over democracy when they contradict. And when some Muslims (who perfectly follow the 5 pillars of Islam) DO openly declare themselves anti-Democratic, then you try to say that they are NOT MUSLIMS.

You say Islam is not guilty, no danger, but neither will you side with democratic against totalitarian Muslims, by saying “Democracy is Halal” openly.

Not taking the democratic side openly degrades your trustworthyness in our opinion.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

I
never said that all Muslims are innocent ??? I am not taking anyone side my
opinion is clear that stop fighting with each other that`s enough from centuries
we are fight it’s time to end it up and live in peace why don’t someone come up
with an idea to start peace movement and
we should share love with each. I don’t know if you are reading this message or
not I`m going end this discussion here well may we rest in peace and last thing
either it’s your God or mine but one thing I`m sure neither your
God nor mine want us to kill innocent nor wants us to fight with each other.

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Sami, these people are the other side of anti-semitic coin. Just like the ones that insist that ALL Jews are evil. And round and round it goes. Profits are made from the blood on both sides – just look up the statements made in a quarterly call by Lockheed Martin – they openly state that the tension and conflicts in Middle East are good for business… Morons like Geller, Breitbart (may he NOT rest in peace ) are here to inflame the situation.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Thats true I agree they are
dooing this all for materialistic benefits they don’t care who dies or who lives

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Sami rightfully said that religion is a choice. Jewishness is a race. So one can hold Muslims accountable for their choice of religion, but not Jews for their race.

Protesters like you do defend Muslims against Geller, Breitbart, but offend them just as much as they hurt Muslim’s feelings.

Are all and every last Muslim innocent then? No, plenty of Muslims, but not all are just as hateful, or worse.

Why then are the feelings of Muslims to be protected by you and not those of meaningful democratic idealists as Geller and Breitbart? Why do you the same to them that you blame them of doing to Muslims?

I suggest you use single standards and allow or discourage all, not discourage just the one side and allow the other (which is all you can and probably will do).

I suggest you lower your expectations of Geller, and elevate your expectations of Muslims

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

You keep saying we do not understand Islam properly. But we have our own meaningfull democratic culture or ideology to defend. And do you understand our ideology then? We can explain THAT to YOU.

Do you see contradiction between meaningful democratic ideology and Islamic ideology (or at least by some Muslims ‘interpretations). We do see a contradiction, we do see a danger from some Muslims.

And from you? Well, can you honestly say: “Democracy is HALAL”?

Meaning when you too spot a contradiction between Islamic law and Meaningfull Democratic law, which do you consider the most important to follow? The Constitution or the Shariah? When they CONTRADICT EACH OTHER, mind you.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

By saying our democratic culture or ideology do you mean jews or America ?? Just to make clear myself

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Elijah mann

Lets begin with getting ISIS the heck out of our country!!!!!!! Why is nothing being done about this???? Is there something the U.S. can do about this???

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

I would recommend U.S to kick out all the Muslims and Jews at the same time

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Well, that’s a great idea!! Not!!! What idiot tree did you fall from?

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Well im a human being first and Muslim by religion and hate those people who hate other human being regardless they are Muslim , non-Muslim Jews christian Hindus or belong to any religion or sect all i believe in humanity so please stop hating each other why don’t we try another way. the path of love and peace.

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

You are at the wrong site, Sami.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Its not about a website I know but the thing is that is it that hard to be a good human ?

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Sometime i think what is that feeling or emotion or state that makes one person to kill another? Even Thinking about is so horrible personally speaking I don’t believe that there will be any religion which will ask you to kill innocent atleast im sure about Islam.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

At THIS site NO ONE is EVER advocating to kill anyone. However protest against Muslim-killers, and their Islamic justification for it is what is done here.

If they would be totally OK with our meaningfull democratic ideology many Muslims should be on our democratic side against all totalitarian Muslims.

Freedom of speech, including hateful speech is among our most sacred values and we can explain the good historical reasons for it if you wish.

So if you attack Pamela you indirectly speak against our most sacred democratic value. And that is your choice, and we hate that choice, but will never hurt you for it.

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Most Americans are raised not to be curious about other cultures. Materialism and banal mindless entertainment replace critical thinking and attention to detail, context and nuances. The starting premise to any international conflict is that America is exceptional and better than anybody else in the world. Combined with de-humanization of “others” and one-sided, dumbed-down news “coverage” produces compliant idiots that only know how to chant “USA USA” and have a very simplistic world-view.where “we are good and the rest are just waiting for us to spread our goodness to them”. Add the biggest military might – and here we are.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

I cannot contradict you factually, you may have a lot of truth.

But there are 193 countries in the world and it is only fair to compare them all with each other.

Taking into account ALL flaws but also ALL excellent qualities as much as possible. With objective criteria.

I submit that you have elevated expectations of Americans and Lowered Expectations of other nations, especially those of Muslims.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Thinking of running, he?

Paula Coyle
Paula Coyle
8 years ago
Reply to  Elijah mann

I think if we just keep having events like this they’ll sort themselves out.

JacktheRipper
JacktheRipper
8 years ago
Reply to  Paula Coyle

So funny.

Ghost
Ghost
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/04/03/geert-wilders-mass-muslim-immigration-is-one-of-the-biggest-mistakes-ever-made-in-history/

There is a push-back, but people have to be educated about Islam. They don’t understand enough and are more concerned about being “polite” “civil” and “tolerant.” Those are Western values, Judeo-Christian values, but the Islamic Supremacists are gleefully using them against us. Common Core is extremely dangerous and promotes Islam in a fairy tale light. No critique. Far history. The brainwashing of our young people is being funded by Qatar and Saudi Arabia via the Common Core K-12 curriculum.

So… Gather reliable information about this topic and talk to your friends and family, and associate with knowledgeable people.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Ghost

You have to be kidding! Seriously? Really? I absolutely do not need to gather any further information, as I know all I needed to know. It is simple as it is. Obviously you are either a Muslim or a sympathier

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Seriously Brook do not required to gather any further information actually she need to be deported first to israel and all the other people like here including pamela but NOT all the Jews . I`m absolutely against killing people for doing such stupidity but the thing is that if america stands for freedom of speech it should also stand against hater speech as well. It seems like some childish act if you know by doing such thing you provoke someone but still you do it to tease them then face the consequences. Why don’t you make one thing clear stop tease Muslims they wont get offended is that really hard to do this ??? Actually this video is very informative as the speaker say`s now the Muslism are more offensive actually you know why since Israel state founded since than this whole shit started and i don’t have to tell you the reason you are smart enough to understand it.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Wow!, you have no clue about anything, obviously. You are just making up shit that makes absolutely no sense at all. What drugs are you on?

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

well that’s the problem you don’t want to listen other and if someone say something you tell them either they are insane or they are on drugs

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

You know why? You have to be on drugs with those opinions. If you can find your head and take it out of the sand, you may see things differently. The END. Though, kindly talk to others, I am sure they will understand you fully (sarcasm)

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

From your statement it just seems like you just full of hater and by hook or by crook you just want to blame 2 billion Muslims well its your choice as there is a freedom of speech

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

“Some facts every U.S. Citizen should know and these
are facts straight out of the Koran. Believers in Islam do not ever
intend to get along with anyone that is not a 100% believer-follower of
the Islam Religion. It is not a Peaceful Religion. If you doubt, go to
any very good library or visit a Rabbi that has copies of the Koran.
They are essentially taking over every Civilized Democratic Nation in
the world and they are doing it through rapid COLONIZATION that has been
going on for decades now in the USA, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden,
Italy, etc. to name a few. Obama has authorized 3.2 Million
Arab-Islamist from Syria as immigrants into the U. S. and this does not
count all the other Islamist immigrating from other Islamist Nations.
The Syrians are Shariah Islam. The 2 post below were by others and it is
going to be very important in coming elections.

1. Shariah Law n the the Quran? Saved from NewsMax reply 4-6-15

So I guess as a Muslim they do not obey the following: ?

Surah 9:5 / Surah 5:33 / Surah 47:4 / Surah 4:95 / Surah 8:15-17/ Surah 8:74

Surah 47:4 =extortion or DEATH / Surah 61:10 / Surah 3:157 / Surah
2:216-217 / Surah 5:35 Surah 8:39 ( Keep fighting until Islam is the
only religion) / Surah 8:57

Surah 9:29 / Surah 48:16 / Surah12:9-14 / Surah 47:35 / Surah 48:29

Commanding all Muslims to murder everyone that does not join the fight
to kill all others that do not follow Islam. That this is the only way
that Alla will grant you salvation.

2. In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake,
alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with
demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God.—-

The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were
unable to distinguish Satan’s voice from God’s voice, then could there
be verses in the Qur’an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were
really from Satan?”
_____________________________________________________

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Stop using

same old tactics to miss-lead people if you never
read complete Quran properly

and never understand it how come you can quote
something from it by just

reading few lines THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU KNOW
EVERYTHING so please stop it. If i

never ready Torah, Bible or Baghwat geeta who am I
to judge it by the action of

few people and one more thing those killer who
kill innocent people in the name

of Islam either they are not Muslims or maybe they
are ignorant like you who

just read few lines and without understanding
started acting on it.

Actually

what you are doing you are just telling people one
line and then you don’t tell

them next one jsut to create confusion that

funny

Quran also says if you kill one innocent you kill
whole humanity

Quran also say`s Mosses , Jesus Christ and othe
124000 are the messenger of God

and we should respect them and you will never find
any true Muslim abusing them.

Quran also says who saves a life has saved entire
humanity. Quran allows

killing people only to save a life, that is in
defense.

You are just telling people few line why dont you
tell people the

complete Surat so they will know the truth?

And why

they should go to Rabbi to take copy they are
smart enough they can download it

from internet as am well aware that some

rabbis manipulated the original text

1 Sharia Law is not

itself completely taken from Quran like Talmudic
Law and its only for the Muslims

not for the non Muslims If you want to know about
it ask non Muslims who are

living in Saudi Arabia according to you

there should be not a non Muslim is Saudi Arabia
as it practice sharia law what

a stupid point you picked

2.If you really believe

that Muhammed (P.B.U.H) Said that than please read
complete verse and do believe on

it as well (But Allah abolishes that which Shaitan
(Satan) throws in. Then Allah establishes His

Revelations. And Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise:)

http://www.noblequran.com/translation/surah22.html

If anyone intrested read Quran
please go to the following link

http://quran.com/

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

1. Behave with courtesy :
Consider, for instance, the following verse, which is supposed to instruct Muslims as to how they should deal with non-Muslims in the midst of hostilities (such as war): 9:6 And if any of the Idolatries (who are fighting you) seeks thy protection, grant him protection, so that he might [be able to] hear the word of God [from thee]; and thereupon convey him to a place where he can feel secure:
If Muslims are to behave with such clemency and magnanimity vis-a-vis the infidel during times of war and conflict, how much more should be expected of their interactions with non-Muslims during times of peace?

2. Respect his freedom of choice to be a “Disbeliever” – as this is a right bestowed upon humanity by God:
Quran 18:29 proclaims, “The truth is from your Lord”: it is the free will of any person to believe (in God) or to be an Infidel (Un believer).

3. Even if a Muslim should be convinced that someone is a non-believer, still he must accept that his fate is in the hands of God alone, since no one human can condemn another – this must be left to the judgment of God.
Quran 88:25-26 for behold, unto (ONLY) Us (means God) will be their return, Then it will be for (ONLY) Us to Judge (humans).
22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean an ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

Thanks Sami,

Now look at what these people from ISIS are saying and doing. Their leader, Abubakr Al Baghdadi studied Islam for 8 years. All their followers are Muslims. They want to die for their faith but you would have us believe they misunderstand it, when they are full of it, study it everyday! Cite from it on numerous occasions?

Look, if we must believe you too, that your interpretation of Islam is valid. But theirs is probably AS valid!

The cause; Multi-interpretability, obsoleteness of 1300 year immutable binding texts (Quran-Hadiths-Sira), incompleteness, unclearness, contradictoriness.

Allah sent a prophet in the 7th century and has since not UPDATED the message of that final prophet ONE IOTA.

Allah was supposed to help mankind towards a better fate, and THIS is all HE does?

But you can make a pro-democratic interpretation and make that binding. You can say “Democracy is halal”.

And so separate decisively from those totalitarian self-confessed Muslim you claim misunderstand Islam.

Will you do it? The totalitarians will destroy the trustworthyness of all Muslims if you/ they don;’t.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

No, she would not blame ALL Muslims at all. but you, you want to EXONERATE ALL MUSLIMS, and Islam.

There is a middle way. Some parts of Islam and some parts of Muslims are definitely anti-democratic.

If you deny that; can you say after me, with conviction:

DEMOCRACY IS HALAL? If not, why not?

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

Demsci I guess you didn’t read her comments that what she is saying HOW CAN WE GET MUSLIMS DEPORTED FROM AMERICA doesn’t THAT MEAN ALL MUSLIMS. and your last line really made me laugh 😀 there is nothing to do halal and haram with democracy in Islam who told you that ??? In most of the Islamic states we have Democracy seriously someone is giving you wrong information you need to find it yourself

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Brooke, I am Jewish. I think Pamela is insane. I think you are insane. I think you and your ilk are the ones spreading hate and ignorance. You are blindly and stupidly following and cheerleading an evil SO banal it is breathtaking. Shame on you.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Maybe you ought to read the Quran to understand what is actually going on in this world. There is one Quran, within, read what Muhammed guides Muslims to do to all that are not like them. Then come back here and tell us all about it. We will all be waiting for you..

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Read just the excerpts, interpreted for you by the likes of Pamela ? Aha. Pamela Geller et al make the rest of Jews cringe in embarassment. They, and you by following them, show the world the ugly face of Jews. This is not what majority of us stand for. This site and Pam’s ideas are hateful and ugly.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Again, READ THE QURAN, if you have not, you know nothing about what Pam and 99.99% of the people on this site are here for.

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

“You have to be kidding! Seriously? Really? I absolutely do not need to gather any further information, as I know all I needed to know. It is simple as it is” Back at you.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Because you have not read the Quran or Koran. When you actually read it, you may just wake up.

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

I guess irony is wasted on you. It was I quoting you.
Somehow you don’t come across as being able to read the whole Koran… so please, spare me.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Oh course you can’t. You are here to make trouble. Good luck with that. Best regards

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Sir, What Pamela Geller sais is said by all sorts of people, it does embarrass all mankind at most, if at all, not just Jews.

Muslims, but also all other sorts of people use rhetoric like hers! Either condemn or condone all, not just condemn, discourage hers, in such a hypocritical way.

Consider the imbalance you would create; all religions, including Judaism, do get vilified a lot, all the time, somewhere in the world, But you only want to protect Islam??? You haven’t gotten around to think about the hurt feelings of Pamela or Jews, or Westerners??? Why? Because not a one of them would ever threathen violence, is that it?

YOur trouble is that you seem to have ELEVATED expectations of Pamela Geller, and Jews,

and LOWERED expectations of Muslims.

So Pamela Geller can’t live up to your standards, but about Muslims you say not a word? You think part of Muslims are innocent of what Pamela says and does and worse?

are you using the same standards for all or what?

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

What you you think by organizing such activity is she help jews ??? It seems like she is acting like abubakr Al Baghdadi of jews

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Oh, and what about all those Westerners who spread support and love for Islam and Muslims? Is the ONLY response you want to allow and call sane, that of positive reaction or silence? And no “negative reactions, namely hate. Hate is perfectly legal, natural, normal, ubiguitous as long as it does not incite to violence.

You have no case against hate. But if you do want to discourage hate, you should discourage all hate by all. Including hate coming from Muslims towards Jews and towards Pamela Geller. Now you are creating an unbalance in a hypocritical way.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

When such things come from muslim side I always oppose it even if you will read my comments you will find that i never ever said that All jews are bad I said some who are provoking people.

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  Sami Murtaza

//”Why don’t you make one thing clear stop tease Muslims they wont get offended is that really hard to do this ??? “//

Define “teasing”. Let’s say it is: “drawing painful pictures, hateful speech, denigration of religion”.

Now, in Islamic countries Muslims do that all the time too!!!
Against Jews especially!! And Westerners, Kuffars, even our own Democratic ideology, values.

Now, either all, including Muslims, stop the teasing or all may do it. If it is allowed to Muslims, it should be allowed to democratic citizens.

But what is very hypocritical from you is that you just want to discourage the Democratic Ideology side and not the Islamic side. Which you can’t anyway, any more than we can. So, we react! It is only fair!

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Demsci

That`s true you are right on both sides we have to stop it seems like we are fight like Tom and Jerry people like you me who are educated we should educated other people rather becoming one of them . People like abubakr Al Baghdadi and Pamela and many more are just provoking people to fight and just for knowledge people in islamic countries are not doing this all the time only when such events are held from your side then people get angry and they react.

jjeeezz
jjeeezz
8 years ago

(Ima contest/show submitter.) YOU GO GIRL

Mike E
Mike E
8 years ago

Interesting discussion between CNN, that obviously is against criticizing Islam, and Pamela Geller. So, according to CNN any critique of Islam is wrong!

But ideas and religions are precisely the things that it should be allowed criticize! What’s next? Will it be wrong to criticize Socialism because it will offend some people? Or is it only wrong to criticize things that will cause people to kill others? What a media we have. The Spanish Inquisition would have been proud of CNN & Co.

Max Brenner
Max Brenner
8 years ago

I watched the raw footage from Mark Campbell last night. At one point the message started filtering through “shots fired” but there was total calm they kept going with the interviews until SWAT asked them to bunker down elsewhere.
All speeches were great and informative.

John Weaver
John Weaver
8 years ago

May God bless Pamela Geller and all she does to tell us the truth about radical Islam. HOw is it she has balls and a spine while President Pantywaist has neither?

cmh
cmh
8 years ago

i particularly enjoyed robert’s speech….gosh he is good

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a
8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people… And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

Lacouray Too
Lacouray Too
8 years ago
Reply to  a

mohammed was not a prophet; he was in it for the profit.

Paula Coyle
Paula Coyle
8 years ago
Reply to  a

Why are you spamming her site? Yeah, you have the freedom to hate her from behind a computer where you are so brave you spam her site and think we’ll be impressed reading the same comment a hundred times over, and don’t even have the courage to reveal your name. Very impressive.

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Paula Coyle

Although that`s stupid but isn’t that freedom of speech ??? he can write million times as he is using his own energy and money. if he is posting same comments hundred times bother you just imagine how Muslim feel when someone mock their religion for some its really emotional matter ???

kevinstroup
kevinstroup
8 years ago
Reply to  a

Muslims like to eat feces out of pig bottoms. Muslims like to fellate Jews. Allahu Fucktard!

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  kevinstroup

Well nice to know that but do you know Word Allah is for the one who created everything for christian it could be God father of Jesus Christ for Jews it could be God of children of Israel for Hindus it could be Ram so know you decide

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people… You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people…. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people…. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people….. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people….. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people….. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people.. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people.. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people.. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. ..And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people…. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people…. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people…. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people… And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people… And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller..

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Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller..

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Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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mikahil
mikahil
8 years ago
Reply to  g

I don’t consider this freedom of speech, it’s rather provocative. And Islam is religion followed by over two billion people who believe it’s the final message of allah but devil and it’s worshippers will always hate.

g
g
8 years ago

Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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Islam is better than other religions. If you’re against a certain population, do not attack all followers of the religion. I support that you are against terrorism, but making fun of the Prophet Muhammad is a hurtful attack against all Muslim people. You’re attacking thousands of innocent Muslim people. And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller.

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Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  g

//”And if you think that this is freedom, then I have freedom to hate and berate you, Pamela Geller”//

Oh, rest assured, She is hated and berated a LOT. And jews are too, by Muslims in Islamic countries, hated and berated a LOT.

Pamela Geller and friends and Jews ALLOW that hating and berating, but never threathen with any violence in return. They will disavow all violent reacting friends and jews if they react violently against non-violent pictures or speech.

The thousands of innocent Muslims ARE VERBALLY attacked, YES! But so is the rest of mankind! It happens to all. VERBALLY. All get their feelings hurt, from time to time.

But their safety is not impaired, nor their rights. Muslims can avoid the presentations of Geller. Your protest is so useless, unnecessary.

But if you want to persist against hate-speech, it is highly hypocritical if you then not also try to stop hate-speech toward Pamela herself, Jews, Westerners, Kuffars with the same standards.

You can begin by protesting against Iran; There, the government stimulates the people to shout, every friday; Death to America! Death to Israel! Protest against that too, not just against “hate-speech coming from Americans and Israeli’s, but also hatespeech towards them!

JacktheRipper
JacktheRipper
8 years ago

Mr. Spencer is such a wonderful speaker, lucid, brilliant, and interesting. I’ve never seen anyone get the better of him in a debate. I’m sure he knows islam better than virtually all muslims. He understands their madness better than they do. And he’s right, practically everything “pokes muslims in the eye.” Just about everything we do offends them. But their offense is not our problem. We determine our own values and beliefs, without having to consult their pagan nonsense or intolerant views.

Two down, 1.2 billion to go! I never thought I could feel such joy over human death! I must be normal! haha! Terrorists aren’t worthy of life!

MD Rabbi Alam
MD Rabbi Alam
8 years ago

The American Muslim Political Action Committee urges all American Muslim organizations to unite and demand a fair and impartial investigation of alleged “radical Muslim terror incidents” from the 2001 9/11-anthrax operation to the May 3rd, 2015 shooting in Texas. We demand a fair and impartial investigation by a Commission whose members will include former President Jimmy Carter, 9/11 expert David Ray Griffin, international law professors Richard Falk and Francis Boyle, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Paul Craig Roberts, University of California professor Peter Dale Scott, Florida State University professor Lance deHaven Smith, State University of New York professor Paul Zarembka, former US Senator Max Cleland, Minnesota governor Mark Dayton, former Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura, former US Representative Cynthia McKinney, former US Senator Bob Graham and current US Senator Barbara Levy Boxer.

There are many questions surrounding the Garland, Texas incident: seehttp://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/04/garland/ . The same is true of virtually all terror incidents in the US and Europe attributed to radical Muslims. In the absence of a genuinely fair and impartial investigation controlled by people whose integrity cannot be doubted, billions of people around the world will continue to believe that each new “terror incident” is yet another fabrication by the enemies of Islam. We need to restore confidence in the integrity of our leadership and our intelligence agencies. We need a real investigation of so-called “radical Islamic terror.”

Contact:

MD Alam, [email protected]

Kevin Barrett, [email protected]

May 4/2015

http://www.AMPACusa.org

Arkansas MIke
Arkansas MIke
8 years ago
Reply to  MD Rabbi Alam

“controlled by people whose integrity cannot be doubted”

Jimmy Carter and Barbara Boxer? That whole fookin list is a bunch of lying Leftist progressives. What flavor of koolaid are you snorting?

Demsci
Demsci
8 years ago
Reply to  MD Rabbi Alam

Fine democratic advice! It should be given to ALL NATIONS, not just America.

If anything, due to freedom of speech, Americans are among the most honest reporters of all incidents and deaths and opinions all around the world.

See, if negative statistics are gathered, inevitably the most honest, freedom of speech countries report the most crimes, cover-ups. Because they do not CENSOR.

But dictatorial countries like Iran and Russia and China CENSOR much more, and therefore their negative statistics are lower! As if crime, cover-ups do not happen there!

This is about punishing the most honest countries.

Now when we look at the positive statistics, those that make any country proud. There you see America very high, in the top 10. Don’t forget that.

Many more people flee TO America, than flee FROM America.
In Iran it is the exact opposit! But OK, your priority is America, …. sigh.

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago

CONGRATULATIONS. Morons only slightly smarter than the ones they are trying to incite suceeded. The likes of Geller, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Perle, Breitbart, Kagans, etc. are THE ONES that are spreading the hate and keeping the Middle East in flames.
You all are blindly following an EVIL, HATEFUL, LYING IDIOT that has no idea of consequences.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

Probably best for you to leave then, if you feel that way. I’d say you are the one that is drinking the kool-aide

Varenik
Varenik
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

Maybe the first step would be to learn some grammar and spelling rules. That may prompt you to read more. Maybe more than just Pam’s drivel.
Hope is eternal.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

I am surely shaking in my boots

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago
Reply to  Varenik

These acts are straight out of the Koran. Believers in Islam do not ever
intend to get along with anyone that is not a 100% believer-follower of
the Islam Religion. It is not a Peaceful Religion. If you doubt, go to
any very good library or visit a Rabbi that has copies of the Koran.
They are essentially taking over every Civilized Democratic Nation in
the world and they are doing it through rapid COLONIZATION that has been going on for decades now in the USA, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Italy, etc. to name a few. Obama has authorized 3.2 Million
Arab-Islamist from Syria as immigrants into the U. S. and this does not
count all the other Islamist immigrating from other Islamist Nations.
The Syrians are Shariah Islam. The 2 post below were by others and it is
going to be very important in coming elections.

1. Shariah Law n the the Quran? Saved from NewsMax reply 4-6-15

So I guess as a Muslim they do not obey the following: ?

Surah 9:5 / Surah 5:33 / Surah 47:4 / Surah 4:95 / Surah 8:15-17/ Surah 8:74

Surah 47:4 =extortion or DEATH / Surah 61:10 / Surah 3:157 / Surah
2:216-217 / Surah 5:35 Surah 8:39 ( Keep fighting until Islam is the
only religion) / Surah 8:57

Surah 9:29 / Surah 48:16 / Surah12:9-14 / Surah 47:35 / Surah 48:29

Commanding all Muslims to murder everyone that does not join the fight
to kill all others that do not follow Islam. That this is the only way
that Alla will grant you salvation.

2. In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake,
alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with
demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God.—-The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were
unable to distinguish Satan’s voice from God’s voice, then could there
be verses in the Qur’an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were
really from Satan?”

Sami Murtaza
Sami Murtaza
8 years ago
Reply to  Brooke

One of the issues that we must bring to the fore is the fact that the Quran forbids us from judging others. This has been expressed clearly in many verses.

Quran 88:25: For behold, unto Us will be their return,
Quran 88:26: Then it will be for (only) Us to call them to account.

By using the Arabic word “Inna” – which means “We” (i.e., God) – to begin 88:26 is a clear indication that it is ONLY God who can judge humans. To better comprehend why it is that humans are not capable (or allowed) to pass judgment against their fellow man, I offer the following analogy: Consider, for a moment, a long, stretching river – let’s call it “The River of Truth.” People are swimming at various points along this river. Now, let’s assume that absolute truth lay at the very end of the river, say, point 100. Based on this, we would assume that the person swimming alongside point 95 is closer to the Truth – and therefore better – than the person swimming alongside point 5.

However, what if the fact was that the closer person had started out at 100, and had actually drifted away from the truth by 5, whereas the further person had actually started at 0 and was now 5 closer to the Truth? While it would be impossible for us to know this – it is not impossible for God, for He would certainly know this about both persons, He would know that the person on 5 was striving hard (that is, performing Jihad) for Truth’s sake. Based on this all too plausible scenario, it becomes obvious that in the eyes of God, the man on point 5 of the River of Truth is better than the person on point 95. It is for this very reason that the Quran has unequivocally stated that ONLY God can pass judgment on humans:

22:17 Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians (can mean certain ancient religion or people with no specific religion), Christians, Magians, and Polytheists,- God will judge between them on the Day of Judgment: for God (alone) is witness of all things.

As finite humans we do not possess the foreknowledge of God and thus we are in no position to pass judgment over others.
Of course, we are capable of distinguishing between good and bad deeds – however, without the omniscience of God, we cannot judge this person or that as being either good or bad (as demonstrated earlier). If anyone had seen Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) (PBUH) as he worshiped various planets and stars, as well as the moon and sun, before he at last came to worship the true God (as recorded in the Quran as well ancient Jewish scriptures), they would have considered him a “mushrik”—that is, an idolater or simply, an infidel. In fact, God Himself was pleased with Ibrahim since he was at least making a sincere effort to find the true God.

Quran 6:75 And thus We gave Abraham [his first] insight into [God’s] mighty dominion over the heavens and the earth – and [this] to the end that he might become one of those who are inwardly sure.

Quran 6:76 Then, when the night overshadowed him with its darkness, he beheld a star, [and] he exclaimed, “This is my Sustainer!” -but when it went down, he said, “I love not the things that go down.”

Quran 6:77 Then, when he beheld the moon rising, he said, “This is my Sustainer!”-but when it went down, he said, “Indeed, if my Sustainer guide me not. I will most certainly become one of the people who go astray!”

Quran 6:78 Then, when he beheld the sun rising, he said, “This is my Sustainer! This one is the greatest [of all]!” – but when it [too] went down, he exclaimed: “O my people! Behold, far be it from me to ascribe divinity, as you do, to aught beside God!

Quran 6:79 Behold, unto Him who brought into being the heavens and the earth have I turned my face, having turned away from all that is false; and I am not of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside Him.”

The search for Truth – the desire to find the Divine – is in and of itself a great deed, even if the individual seeker never ascertains absolute Truth. The act itself possesses great intrinsic value and is demonstrative of a willing heart.

As God plainly reveals in his Holy Quran:

Quran: 29:69 And those who strive in Our paths to find us (God)),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily God is with those who do right.

From here, we should learn once and for all to never be judgmental against others but to leave judgment to God alone.
Saiidna Issa (Jesus) PBUH is recorded in the scriptures as saying, “Judge not lest ye be judged…and by the same measure you judge others by, so too will you be judged.”
Imagine how you would feel if you judged someone for their apparently bad deeds when, all the while, that person was suffering from a mental illness that influenced their negative actions? If this happened, it would be you who had sinned – who had truly committed a bad deed – for you passed judgment without knowing all the facts. It is for this very reason that God said to Prophet Mohamed in his Holy Quran :

Quran 46:9 Say: “I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. God is the ONLY one who can judge humans.

Brooke
Brooke
8 years ago

Collection of interesting thoughts found on Pamela Gellers open messages
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“Some facts every U.S. Citizen should know and these
are facts straight out of the Koran. Believers in Islam do not ever
intend to get along with anyone that is not a 100% believer-follower of
the Islam Religion. It is not a Peaceful Religion. If you doubt, go to
any very good library or visit a Rabbi that has copies of the Koran.
They are essentially taking over every Civilized Democratic Nation in
the world and they are doing it through rapid COLONIZATION that has been
going on for decades now in the USA, Britain, France, Germany, Sweden,
Italy, etc. to name a few. Obama has authorized 3.2 Million
Arab-Islamist from Syria as immigrants into the U. S. and this does not
count all the other Islamist immigrating from other Islamist Nations.
The Syrians are Shariah Islam. The 2 post below were by others and it is
going to be very important in coming elections.

1. Shariah Law n the the Quran? Saved from NewsMax reply 4-6-15

So I guess as a Muslim they do not obey the following: ?

Surah 9:5 / Surah 5:33 / Surah 47:4 / Surah 4:95 / Surah 8:15-17/ Surah 8:74

Surah 47:4 =extortion or DEATH / Surah 61:10 / Surah 3:157 / Surah
2:216-217 / Surah 5:35 Surah 8:39 ( Keep fighting until Islam is the
only religion) / Surah 8:57

Surah 9:29 / Surah 48:16 / Surah12:9-14 / Surah 47:35 / Surah 48:29

Commanding all Muslims to murder everyone that does not join the fight
to kill all others that do not follow Islam. That this is the only way
that Alla will grant you salvation.

2. In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake,
alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with
demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God.—-

The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were
unable to distinguish Satan’s voice from God’s voice, then could there
be verses in the Qur’an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were
really from Satan?”
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Winston Churchill Speech – On Islam

The book “River of war” written in (1899)
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How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!

Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia

in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many

countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods

of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the

Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and

refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan

law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as

a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the

faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion

paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde

force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant

and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising

fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the

strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled,

the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

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“Just now watching news…here in Texas. ISIS
claimed responsibility for the attack overnight. A radio show was
contacted with the claim and basically was told, this is just the
beginning. There was no mention of how ISIS is responsible..ie, if they
planned, financed, etc. But, it is the biggest wake up call to
Americans. The “homegrown” terrorists that are sprouting up all over
the country and, some, who have been caught trying to get to Syria for
training, are here. By the grace of God, Garland PD didn’t hesitate on
their action and put them down, and the unarmed Garland ISD security
officer who was injured, is ok. These ideologies are being honed and
condoned by the current Administration by the inaction being taken on
true homeland security. America…stand tall and God Bless Texas!”

________________________________________________________

“Islam IS radical, so stop with the tepid,
shirking, “radical islam” label. there are two types of muslims. devout
muslims. and failed muslims. the devout are charged with destroying the
failed muslims. and also all unbelievers, i.e. the rest of us”

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