“Moderate” Indonesia: Female military applicants receive “two-finger” virginity tests

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All cultures are not equal. Islamic culture is misogynistic and degrading to women. Vicious. Demeaning. Women have to be virgins, and the patriarchal sharia will police that by having strange men stick their fingers inside her. Got that?

The West is best.

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“Female Indonesian military applicants receive ‘two-finger’ virginity tests,” The Age, May 13, 2015 (thanks to Kenneth)

Female military applicants in Indonesia are subjected to virginity tests – including the discredited “two finger test” to determine if the hymen is intact – in order to recruit the “best people” to the armed forces.

Human Rights Watch is lobbying countries – including Australia – who are attending an international conference on military medicine in Bali next week, to urge Indonesian president Joko Widodo to abolish the “discriminatory and invasive testing”.

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Indonesian military spokesman Major-General Fuad Basya​ told Fairfax Media virginity tests were performed on female candidates as part of health tests required to enter the military.
“It’s against the rights of every woman”: A female military academy applicant subjected to a virginity test in 2013.

“It’s against the rights of every woman”: A female military academy applicant subjected to a virginity test in 2013. Photo: Human Rights Watch

“It is done in order to get the best people both physically and mentally,” General Fuad said.
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He said doctors would know if the female candidate had lost her hymen due to an accident or another reason.

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She would then have to explain why her hymen was no longer intact.
Human Rights Watch is lobbying to urge Indonesian president Joko Widodo to abolish the “discriminatory and invasive testing”.

Human Rights Watch is lobbying to urge Indonesian president Joko Widodo to abolish the “discriminatory and invasive testing”. Photo: Adam Ferguson

“If it is due to an accident we can still consider it but if it’s due to another reason, well, we cannot accept her.”

General Fuad said the tests were already in place in 1977 when he entered the military.

He said military personnel needed to be mentally fit because they had to carry guns to guard Indonesia’s integrity and sovereignty.

“It is very important.”

But Nisha Varia, a women’s rights advocacy director at Human Rights Watch, said “harmful and humiliating” virginity tests did nothing to strengthen national security.

“President Joko Widodo should set the military straight and immediately abolish the requirement and prevent all military hospitals from administering it.”

Andreas Harsono, an Indonesia researcher for Human Rights Watch, said the “two finger test” involves a doctor inserting fingers into the vagina and anus to determine if the hymen is intact.

“This unscientific approach says that if the hymen is torn between 11 o’clock and 1 o’clock it means an accident but if it is torn at 6 o’clock it means frequent sexual exercise.”

Last year the World Health Organisation issued guidelines that stated: “There is no place for virginity (or two-finger) testing. It has no scientific validity.”

This is because hymens can be damaged for reasons other than sex.

The tests became a hot topic in Indonesia after Human Rights Watch released a report in November featuring interviews with female police officers who said the digital penetration test left them feeling traumatised.

Home Affairs Minister Tjahjo Kumolo​ reportedly announced in December he was seeking an end to virginity tests as part of requirements for female civil servants.

However Human Rights Watch research found that the military had also been using the tests for decades and even extended the requirement to the fiancees of military officers.

General Fuad denied fiancees were also tested.

“No, we don’t do that. What’s the need?” he said.

But 11 women interviewed by Human Rights Watch said the tests were required of all women applying to enter the military or marry a military officer.

The international non-government organisation said applicants and fiancees who failed the test were not necessarily penalised but all of the women described the test as painful, embarrassing and traumatic.

“What shocked me was finding out that the doctor who was to perform the test was a man,” a female military academy applicant who was subjected to a virginity test in Bandung in 2013 told Human Rights Watch.

“I felt humiliated. It was very tense. It’s all mixed up. I hope the future medical examination excludes the virginity test. It’s against the rights of every woman.”

The International Committee on Military Medicine is holding its 41st world conference in Bali from May 17 to 22.

Human Rights Watch has sent letters to the committee and its 16 member countries, which includes Australia, asking them to urge the Indonesian military to cease all virginity tests.

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ByPamela Geller
on May 14, 2015
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  • disqus_HlH4Faibhw

    This is nothing more but an attempt to sexually abuse women! FUCKING….MUSLIM….PERVERTED…..ASSWIPES!!

    I hope some crazy women go in there and snip some “doctor’s” dick off!

    • paryono

      Are you an Indonesian ? if yes , you can say anything , if no, better shut off your mouth.

      • disqus_HlH4Faibhw

        I’ll say whatever the fukk I want whether I’m indonesian or not.

  • hurricanepaul

    Seriously, what ‘Muslim’ today would WANT to be a ‘Muslim’ after all that we have seen in the past 14 YEARS since 9/11?

    • Petrilia

      Where are the Muslim women. We have been asking that since 9/11? Where are they? it is time we women in the Free World call them out. You Muslim women, stand up, get out of the hellholes your men stick you in. Muslim women you can get out, be brave. Myorld says you don’t have to wear the filthy stinking rag that stinks o other women, you never have to wear it again. You are in Canada, a free woman. I you doubt e, ask ANY Canadian woman for hep and you will get help.

      • Jim Fox

        SO many Burkas… SO much freedom.

      • sandra schmidt

        My girlfriend invited one of her “secular” Muslim friends to stay with us for a few days (I was prepared for the worst). Her friend is educated, from Lebanon, and actually had had an affair with an Italian man, since her husband is such a loser. At the last minute, she decided to bring her daughter who was a student at a university in Canada.
        I attempted to be cordial, against my better judgment. I returned from my office to find my girlfriend quite upset and being rude to our guests (this is a real no no in Arab culture). When we had a moment alone, I asked her what was going on. She told me that the daughter had told her that she hated Canadians, that “white people” smelled bad, and that she believed that shariah law should be implemented and adulteresses stoned (she said this knowing her hosts were a lesbian couple, one of them “white”).
        I chuckled and told my girlfriend “I told you so”. Her own grandmother had warned her not to bring Muslims to her Christian village in Lebanon, but she thought her friends were different. I was glad to see her get an education up close and personal. My requests for no Muslim guests are now honored.
        I was tempted to tell the kid about her Mother’s affair just to see if I could get a rise out of her, but decided it might be fatal for her so kept my mouth shut. Anyone who follows the pedophile is a mortal enemy of freedom.

        • Dexy

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        • joker

          Basically I have no clue what this is all about. If the little rat hated Canadians then she should f….off out of Canada. If she did not like white people then she should go back to the rat sewers somewhere in Lebanon. But Lebanon used to be fine until the mother f…..Muslims came in view. Lebanon was founded by Christians.

          • sandra schmidt

            Many have had to leave because of the civil war, the filistin refugees, the Muslims and now the Syrian refugees. Sad to see their country islamified and destroyed.

        • Stuart Taylor

          Brainwashed from childhood, they cannot think freely for themselves. They cannot see individual freedom of thought, when it is staring them in the face. They must go back to their zombie muslim societies (prisons) countries where they come from. Western freedom means nothing to them. They would rather live in religiously indoctrinated psychological shackles, than wake up to freedom.

        • Nina Weil.

          There is no greater teacher than life.

          • sandra schmidt

            That is why the islamofascists love to destroy life – they are anti-education.

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    It’s really against the law. First of all, I am not at all heard of such things like virginity test in recruiting military applicants. If the military wants to recruit females, then the test must be conducted with female doctor. This is regarded as sexual abuse and it must be stopped. We all request the law of Indonesia to stop it because it hurts every woman across the world.

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      • Jim Fox

        Don’t do it! ‘She’ is a con artist who is also semi-literate, at best.

    • Dexy

      Gosh. You state that this would be OK if female doctors performed the test. Then you shamelessly advertise your services and those of the clearly unethical outfit you work for. Did I mention that your English is execrable?

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      • sandra schmidt

        It’s probably Choudary pretending to be a woman. Er no, his English would be better.

    • Jim Fox

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      “I am not heard…” You are in fact a charlatan and a spammer.

    • The_Infidel_01

      As long as you are first up for the virginity test, by a really big fingered ugly man, with syphilis.

      • defcon 4

        I’m certain the virginity tests might require a second or third opinion — depending on how pretty the woman in question is.

    • defcon 4

      Typical islam0tard. There’s nothing wrong w/the virginity tests — as long as they’re performed by a female doctor.

    • joker

      On which planet are you writing or studying? Don’t tell us you are left of the centre. If you like I do a virginity test with you. Hope you will like it.

  • No Fear

    Nothing that a Mohammedan does surprises me anymore. Their leader Mohammmed plumbed the depths of depravity in his own behaviour. They are simply following his supremacist manifesto the Quran which tells us all that he was “an excellent example” for mankind. (That is like saying that Ted Bundy is an excellent example for mankind. Errrr, actually no, Ted Bundy didn’t behead 600 Jews like Mohammed did.)

  • AmazonRedHead

    Sooo, why don’t the MEN have to be virgins? I mean their general said, “It is done in order to get the best people both physically and mentally.” Note he said “people” not “women,” which would indicate that men, also, should be virgins to be the “best” they can be. I wonder, does this guy hear himself when he speaks?

    Face palm.

    • Jim Fox

      You make the common mistake of assuming the Muslim mind is rational.
      As you see, it is in fact diseased- infected with the Islam virus.

      • AmazonRedHead

        Of course you’re right. I just have trouble wrapping my head around that much stupid.

    • defcon 4

      Men can have sex w/as many slave girls as their right hand can possess. Ditto for temporary marriages.

  • tjp

    It’s digital rape. All parties should be stoned.

    On the equality issue, are they instituting two finger tests for men? (Surely homosexuality is also not approved in Islam?)

    So many potential cartoons pop into my head.

    • sarah brooklyn ny

      All the men checked each other and the goats simultaneously! They all came back inconclusive, they are currently retesting.

      • Mark

        lol Tried and failed to not spit up my coffee.

  • http://Death-To-Iran.com Bigbaddaboom

    Only the good looking virgin girls discover after about a month from being examined by the good docter that somehow they are now pregnant.

  • Lacouray Too

    I guess the check for men would be a two finger rectal test and then they also check
    the goats in the vicinity.

    • defcon 4

      LOL, that was gr8. Do they check the female goats? Or the male goats?

    • wibbys1

      Yes–that would be it

  • IronMaiden

    Ol’ Sigmund Freud would have had a field day with these sex obsessed bastards!

  • DrStroganoff

    A government licence to sexual assault, sick perverts!

  • Patriot Girl

    These savages are the biggest perverts… But muslimas don’t seem to mind being subject to this sort of humiliating disgusting violating
    behaviour! Sure this one woman spoke out but what if the other half billion of muslimas world wide who themselves give their own little girls To a filthy mans touch with a dull knife to mutilate her?! What of that culture?! If they were bothered surely they wouldn’t subject their own child to such perversion and pain!! It’s just we women of the west who mind for them… But they’ll never change as long as they follow this savage ideology, keep letting strange men perform virginity tests on them and produce their girl children for mutilation!

  • Rafael30

    anyone formerly known as a feminist care to comment, or is this just a byproduct of multiculturalism .. nothing to see, move on.

    • Gail Combs

      Oh the feminists SUPPORT islam and call us islamophobes.

      (What a truly idiotic name among many idiotic twisted names and ideas the PC crowd supports.)

  • Gross & Disgusting

    GROSS. Mixed feelings? Have they washed their hands at least??
    Sick. Is this where Obama was from Indonesia? Islam is for lunatics.

  • sandra schmidt

    I would like to see that “General” subjected to the 10″, 10 San Francisco leather man gang bang fest, just so they can make sure his mental health is ok, of course.

    • defcon 4

      SO apropos.

    • joker

      Must he be virgin? Would be nice he got bang raped by very horny neo-nazi gays.

  • Millionmileman
    • joker

      She should also get the two finger test. Nice.

    • Stuart Taylor

      I wonder how “spiritual” Lindsey would feel about islam if she had become a muslim and have to go through the male administered,two finger test, to see if she would qualify as one of the “best virgin candidates” for whatever the imam dictates. Never mind the forced clitoris removal to make her an even “better” muslim.

  • Atikva

    Well, if the Indonesians were right about believing that sexual intercourse before marriage makes young girls mentally unfit, that would explain why so many American college students are militating on behalf of the Palestinian myth.

  • joker

    I would like to be a tester but not with my two fingers /s

    • DeKadt

      Bad joke. No: sick joke.

  • wibbys1

    When will the world realize what sick M-Fs we are dealing with?!!

  • Mark

    OMG! The “virginity test” described above very well could have been lift right out of a Monty Python movie. It’s right up there with the “witch test” from the Holy Grail.

    So let me get this straight, if you have an eleven o’clock tear in the hymen, you’re fine? But if you have a six o’clock tear in your hymen you’d better buckle up your burkha baby ’cause you’re an unrepentant hussy? Question: what is the proper islamic method of inserting a wrist watch up in there? I mean, I’m assuming that some sort of time piece is required in order to accurately measure the suspected hymen’s o’clockisity. Surely the most high islamic arbiter of chastity wouldn’t simply eye-ball such an important and critical exam. Surely he’d want an accurate and calibrated time-piece up in there. Heaven forbid that the holy arbiter of chastity should wrongly claim that his poor recruit-candidate possesses a slutty six o’clock hymen when in fact she possesses a much more respectable 9:45 hymen.

    Effing unbelievable the ignorance of these savages.

  • DeKadt

    You have got to be pretty sick as a society doing this. I mean, I never heard of a penis length test for male applicants?? ‘Only males with penisses with a minimum lenght of x-inches are allowed in’ or some b.s. like that! I mean, come on people?! What have these guys been smoking?..

    What kind of totally degenerated people are you if you are going to stand for this total nonsens?? These people are crazies! What the hell does this have to do with anything? It’s pure macho b.s. of the extreme, just like everything else in the koran and the other islamic scriptures. Just shows you how crazy one can get if you leave it all to clergy.

    God, I hope this scurge of islam is one day going to die away. It’s way out there!