Piloting a plane to crash is not suicide, it’s mass murder. Lubitz was identified as a German citizen and Mr Robin said he was not known to terrorism links or extremist links, but the prosecutor said he was expecting more information from the German authorities. Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin added his religion was “unknown.”
The door sign at the house of Andreas Lubitz in Montabaur, Germany.
“Co-pilot appears to have crashed Germanwings plane on purpose, prosecutor says,” By Tim Hepher and Jean-Francois Rosnoblet, The Daily Mail,Mar 26, 2015 (thanks to TMI)
Story continues below advertisement(Reuters) – A young German co-pilot locked himself alone in the cockpit of a Germanwings airliner and flew it into a mountain with what appears to have been the intent to destroy it, a French prosecutor said on Thursday.
Investigators and grieving relatives were left struggling to explain what motivated Andreas Lubitz, 28, to kill all 150 people on board the Airbus A320, including himself, in Wednesday’s crash in the French Alps.
French and German officials said there was no indication the crash was a terrorist attack, but gave no alternative explanation for his motives.
Lubitz gained sole control of the aircraft after the captain left the cockpit. He refused to re-open the door and sent plane into its fatal descent, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said.
He did this “for a reason we cannot fathom right now but which looks like intent to destroy this aircraft,” Robin told a news conference in Marseille broadcast live on national TV.
Describing the final 10 minutes of the passengers on board as the plane hurtled towards a mountain range, Robin said sound recordings from one of its black boxes suggested most of them would not have been aware of their fate until the very end.
“Only towards the end do you hear screams,” he said. “And bear in mind that death would have been instantaneous … the aircraft was literally smashed to bits.”
The CEO of Lufthansa, parent company of Germanwings, said its air crew were picked carefully and subjected to psychological vetting.
“No matter your safety regulations, no matter how high you set the bar, and we have incredibly high standards, there is no way to rule out such an event,” CEO Carsten Spohr said.
The world’s attention will now focus on the motivations of Lubitz, a German national who joined the budget carrier in September 2013 and had just 630 hours of flying time – compared with the 6,000 hours of the flight captain, named in German media only as “Patrick S.” in accordance with usual practice.
Robin said there were no grounds to suspect that Lubitz was carrying out a terrorist attack. “Suicide” was also the wrong word to describe actions which killed so many other people, the prosecutor added: “I don’t necessarily call it suicide when you have responsibility for 100 or so lives.”
Police set up guard outside Lubitz’s house in Montabaur, Germany. Acquaintances in the town said they were stunned, describing him as an affable young man who gave no indication he was harbouring any harmful intent.
“I’m just speechless. I don’t have any explanation for this. Knowing Andreas, this is just inconceivable for me,” said Peter Ruecker, a long-time member of the local flight club where Lubitz received his flying license years ago.
“He was a lot of fun, even though he was perhaps sometimes a bit quiet. He was just another boy like so many others here.”
A photo on Lubitz’s Facebook page, which was later taken down, shows a smiling young man posing in front of San Francisco’s Golden Gate bridge.
Robin said the conversation between the two pilots before the captain left the cockpit started normally but that Lubitz’s replies became “laconic” as they started readying what would have been the normal descent to the airport of Duesseldorf.
“His responses become very brief. There is no proper exchange as such,” he said. It was not clear why the captain had left the cockpit but it was probably to use the toilet, he said.
Robin said the family of the co-pilot had arrived in France for a tribute alongside other those of the victims but was being kept apart from the others.
“SMASH THE DOOR DOWN”
The New York Times cited an unnamed investigator as saying the recording shed insight into the moment when it dawned on the captain that he had been shut out of the cockpit.
“The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer,” it quoted an investigator described as a senior French military official as saying. “And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer.”
“You can hear he is trying to smash the door down,” the investigator added.
Investigators were still searching for the second of the two black boxes on Thursday in the ravine where the plane crashed, 100 km (65 miles) from Nice, which would contain data from the plane’s instruments.
France’s BEA air investigation bureau had said on Wednesday it expected the first basic analysis of the voice recordings in days.
Pilots may temporarily leave the cockpit at certain times and in certain circumstances, such as while the aircraft is cruising, according to German aviation law.
Cockpit doors can be opened from the outside with a code, in line with regulations introduced after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States, but the code can be overridden from inside the cockpit. Lufthansa’s CEO said that either the pilot had entered the code incorrectly, or the co-pilot inside had overridden it.
The BEA on Wednesday already ruled out a mid-air explosion and said the scenario did not look like a depressurisation.
Germanwings said 72 Germans were killed in the first major air passenger disaster on French soil since the 2000 Concorde accident just outside Paris. Madrid revised down on Thursday the number of Spanish victims to 50 from 51 previously.
As well as Germans and Spaniards, victims included three Americans, a Moroccan and citizens of Britain, Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Colombia, Denmark, Israel, Japan, Mexico, Iran and the Netherlands, officials said. However, DNA checks to identify them could take weeks, the French government said.
The families of victims were being flown to Marseille on Thursday before being taken up to the zone close to the crash site. Chapels had been prepared for them with a view of the mountain where their loved ones died.
(Additional reporting by bureaus in Paris, Berlin, Frankfurt and Madrid; Writing by Mark John; Editing by Peter Graff)
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From Dailymail:
HOW ACCESS TO THE COCKPIT DOOR CAN BE DISABLED FROM THE INSIDE
The Airbus A320 is fitted with a locking mechanism to prevent unauthorised access to the flight deck while the aircraft is in flight.
The safety systems were improved in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks where hijackers were able to gain access to the cockpit and take over the aircraft.
In normal flight, the door to the flight is closed and locked.
Cabin crew can use a code and gain access to the flight deck. Entry is controlled by the flight crew, in case of a possible hijack attempt.
The Cockpit Door Locking System (CDLS) according to the flight manual ‘provides a means of electrically locking and unlocking the cockpit door’.
The CDLS is located in the central pedestal between both pilots and has a toggle switch which controls the door.
They also have a CCTV camera so they can see who is seeking access, and if they are under any form of duress.
Pilots can restrict access to the flight deck although cabin crew can gain entry in an emergency. However, this emergency access can be over-ridden by the pilot for between five to 20 minutes.
The limited time to keep the door closed is itself a safety feature, in case the flight crew become incapacitated – known in the industry as ‘incap’.
After the predeterminted time, the keypad on the outside of the cockpit door will become operational again, unless the pilot actively restricts access again.
Also the cockpit door has several other safety features in case of a sudden decompression which will cause the door to open.
According to the flight manual there are ‘routine’ and ‘emergency’ access requests.
‘The toggle switch enables the flight crew to lock or unlock the cockpit door, following an access request, thereby allowing or denying the entry to the cockpit.’
The Cockpit Door Locking System, pictured, has several safety features to prevent unauthorised access to the cabin, however, this can be overridden if the flight crew become incapacitated for any reason
The flight manual states that the control unit is responsible for:
- Locking or unlocking the door latches, upon flight crew action
- Unlocking the door i, in case of cockpit decompression (the door then opens towards the cockpit under differential pressure)
- Indicating system failures of electrical latches and pressure sensors
- Activating the access request buzzer and turning on the keypad LEDs
On the Airbus A320, there are three settings:
- Unlock: This position is used to enable the cabin crew member to open the door. The switch must be pulled and maintained in the unlocked position until the door is pushed open.
- Normal: All latches are locked, and EMERGENCY access is possible for the cabin crew
- Lock: Once the button has been moved to this position, the door is locked; emergency access, the buzzer, and the keypad are inhibited for a preselected time (5 to 20 min)
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Yeah, I love how the MSM is not covering the Islamic aspect of this murderer.
Not one story so far as I troll national and international reports.
Aww, whazzamatter Western World, too sissified to see the threat yet? Think if you surf enough porn at work and blame George Bush it will all go away?
Well it won’t. Its here, its spreading like virulent cancer and you’d better get on board with the idea, or you’ll end up as dead as these plane passengers.
Comment of the day! Well said.
I’ve been expecting the Islam factor to surface about this pilot…no surprise at all.
CO-PILOT Andreas Lubitz WAS A MUSLIM EXTREMIST
Lubitz had several Muslim friends, and a Muslim girlfriend. Lubitz trained at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in Bremen, Germany. The flight school is near to the Mosque Masjidu-l-Furqan in Bremen. It is a very radical mosque that was raided and closed in December, 2014 for encouraging violent Jihad.
Carsten Spohr, CEO of Germanwings parent company, said in a press conference that Lubitz took a break in his training six years ago. Lubitz appears to have converted to Islam during that time. Germanwings CEO almost certainly knows that Lubitz converted to Islam. He was very careful in choosing his words about the break Lubitz took in his studies.
Associates of Lubitz say he broke off his relationship with his Muslim girlfriend after he pledged to commit Jihad for Allah.
German police searched Lubitz’s house and found evidence about why he crashed the plane. They wouldn’t say more, but it’s not a suicide note. They seized several computers as well.
So much for the “terrorism is ruled out” meme.
More at romancatholicimperialist and jihadwatch.
Search term:
Andreas Lubitz Muslim
PROOF Please?
There is no proof. Look at the photo. One like. most likely created today. Ridiculous.
Yes, it seems to be an ‘Andreas Lubitz FANS’ page, not a regular plain ‘Andreas Lubitz’ page.
He daid, dude. Can’t write no blog. no mo.
Geller is a hate filled liar
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Here is his Facebook page
no this is a Facebook page created for Pamela’s article (probably by Pam), it was created after the event. There is no REAL evidence of him being Muslim. This is just another case of sick extremists trying to generate hate without evidence. I think Pam and ISIS have the same PR consultant
Taqiyya much? Of course he was a Muzzie. Like you. A lying death cult member. Your days are numbered. All of you.
Oh look a right wing extremist who wants everyone to believe in propaganda rather than the facts of the case! you and your fellow nut jobs should merge with ISIS as you have more in common with them that the civilized world.
Oh look, German Intelligence confirming what the rest of us already knew. You must like humiliation.
Where? any links from German intelligence? idiots saying something does not make it true? and even if he was/is, can you show me concrete evidence that his actions are for religious reasons and not mental? or do you just want to add 1+1 and get 666
Clearly you cannot discuss anything that goes against your OPINION without using names and such. The Germans are providing proof. Get up off your ass and do some research.
says the person who can not provide a shred of real evidence to support his lies. You could at least create another facebook page for your fellow idiots to like and use that as your ‘Real’ evidence.
Dismissal is not evidence. You make this so easy.
Hi. I’m French. We have some real informations here. And you know what ? That guy was not a Muslim. At all. They don’t found any evidence at his place. Get over with it already.
Agree with you! I think the one who writes this is an extreme hater or provocator
Just wait.
Oh, …and you are a “French” muslim?
your the idiot supporting a made up claim and failing to provide evidence – even though you keep referring to it. Considering there is no real evidence to say that he could be Muslim, you’re the fool that needs to prove otherwise.
Dismissal is not evidence. You make this so easy.
repetition usually makes people look stupid, but you’re already beyond that.
I dismiss your lies cause you have no evidence, you’re stupidity and unsupported claimes makes this very very easy
Dismissal is not evidence. You make this so easy.
jesus, you’re a loony. there is ZERO evidence he was muslim. there is no official statement saying he was muslim. the only pages saying he was muslim are right-wing sites. the original source was a blog of a guy who writes for a german “news” site. there is no confirmation.
Weather he is Muslim or not is yet to be determined.
which makes the fervor on this site especially stupid. hint: it’s Pamela geller’s site. par for the course.
Yes, but it seems that most of the fervor is generated by some of the commenters here rather than by Pamela Geller. I might have missed it, but I didn’t see where she said that he was a Muslim.
Give it time.
Flag that nasty fool. Don’t let this thread be taken over by mean trolls.
The evidence is coming out.
where? I thought this page was all your evidence? please feel free to post some “Real” evidence when it arrives
I like how you think a Westerner converting to a repressive, 4th century religion and mental Illness are mutually exclusive! generally, every Western convert I’ve read about recently had “emotional issues” growing up…
Go troll in yort mosques web site
Hi Mr Racist, I didn’t realise that this site was your church! is there where you train to become more like ISIS?
Says the Muslim troll. Go back to your mosque and violate some livestock.
awww bless, the poor racist is now resorting to his own sick stereotypes as attempted insults. To put you at ease I’m not actually religious, I get involved because I despise idiots who I believe are extremists, morally corrupt and push a hate agenda – regardless of colour, creed, race or religion.
Lmao. It’s so funny how you think you are human. Hilarious!
No I train to recognize ISIS when it tries to infiltrate. How’s it going ISIS?
Anyone know when his psychiatric treatment STARTED? I haven’t found that anywhere and I think it’s important.
Tell us how peace loving all you muzzie terrorists are. That is, if you can take a break between beheadings.
What are you talking about? a Terrorist is a Terrorist – religion is just their excuse. do you have anything sensible to add or you just hear to troll?
Islam isn’t a religion; it’s a HOMICIDAL, BELLIGERENT DEATH CULT! Wolf in the sheep’s clothing of a ‘religion’ to take advantage of our Christian humanitarian laws and our Jude Christian concepts of Justice and Law and turn them against us as that pervert mo-ham-head twisted the minds of the innocents into the evil of islam.
And you are a moron! Anyone who is stupid enough to use religion as a basis for law needs a good slap. Religion and Faith needs to be kept at home and out of politics. It’s amazing you have survived so long with 1.2bn alleged cult members out there trying to kill you
I’m sorry then why is there Sharia Law for Muslims. You are a hypocrite.
Are you stupid or something? have I mentioned Sharia Law or shown any support for it? Sharia Law is something created by so called “scholars” hundreds of years after the death of Mohammed and the introduction of the Quran, it is their interpretation. I personally think that it’s Stupid and outdated as the scholars left no opportunity for the laws to develop overtime or beyond it’s inwards focus. But please don’t let the truth about my opinions (which I stated above) get in the way of your ignorance.
“Religion and Faith needs to be kept at home and out of politics.”
How about you Crisco Cultists walk the walk?
let me guess, you want anyone who doesn’t conform to your religious views to destroyed or their evil views… have you thought about joining ISIS? you both seem to be singing of the same hymn sheet
hey, Bigot! How’s the Bigotry today?
Celebrate Diversity, hater grrrl.
How’s your dhimmitude today?
and raping of girls and women.
I AM a right-wing extremist who is NOT an Islamopologist, and I still agree this page was manufactured AFTER the CRASH, with only one (1) user!
If you believed in reincarnation then it would work – he came back from the dead and set up an account. I don’t believe that the spirit world is restricted from joining Facebook.
What hate group mewls “Celebrate Diversity” yet has a laundry list of epithets for those who actually ARE different?
…and they’re coming out of the woodwork, Funkasaurasrex – all the islamic death watch beatles nibbling at our infrastructure until they can take down the whole edifice.
This guy was a JEW, and there is no getting around that fact. We need to start looking into his parents’ background, and any Jewish person he was in contact with over the past decade.
I thought that name was Jewish.
What are you trying to cover up, Hussain?
cover up? you do realise that this entire article is based on guess work and fake facebook pages? Radical drama queens jumping to conclusions and claiming that this guy is a muslim for their own personal agenda and ignoring the fact that 150 people lost their lives due to the pilots Mental illness – that is the evidence that was discovered in his home.
What are YOU trying to cover up, Moishe? Why are you so afraid for people to know the truth, that Lubitz was A JEW?
Well said. utterly obvious as well but people are too stupid to see it. This is the truth
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Maz, Nowhere in this article does Pamela state that the pilot is a muslim extremist, or that he created the Facebook page.
Your claim that Pamela created it is idiotic.
Read the title of her article again for clarification.
The point is that his actions are being praised (whether rightly or wrongly remains to be seen) as Jihad.
oh so you’re saying here intentions where innocent when she was sharing the propaganda which first appeared at the time of her first posting this article… silly me, just a coincidence that someone with her background just happened to publish and share this misinformation
just forget it, Maz. these people are trolling you at this point. it will take a few generations for their stupidity to be directed to something else unfortunately.
A few generations? If humanity manages to survive another thousand years (not likely) there will be a futuristic version of comment sections where the same stupidity will still be going from both sides.
Your comprehension skills need work.
Likewise your communication skills.
Your entire comment to me is a non-sequitor.
apologise, just read it back and it’s awful grammar, thanks for pointing that out, any chance you admitting to this article being nothing but propaganda created to push the Islamaphopbia agenda? or are we ignoring that subject and focusing on language skills on a comments section?
Maz- I appreciate your gracious response, and will attempt to reciprocate.
Is the article “propaganda”? Maybe. I’m not bothered by that possibility. I don’t think propaganda is inherently evil. One can quite legitimately propagandize for a good cause. Quibbling over whether a given article is propaganda or not is analysis by non-essentials. Is it TRUE? Does it refer to a fact of reality? That is what concerns me in judging it’s character and value.. I personally think it is a minor article, of marginal importance.
Does Pamela Gellar have an “agenda”? Most certainly. She is a passionate,committed defender of individual rights. She wears her agenda proudly on her sleeve.
“Islamophobia”? Do you really think that this is a legitimate term? A phobia is an irrational fear. Does that describe Ms. Gellar’s motivation? The term is not only misplaced, it is meaningless, other than as a neologism designed to silence criticism of jihad and to stigmatize debate over the actual nature of Islamic doctrine, and the place of jihad therein.
(Though you did not ask): Do I think PG created the FB page? Absolutely NOT. With over 2500 acts of Jihad worldwide since 9/11, acts which provide ample cause for real (not “phobic”) alarm, who needs to resort to creating such a minor piece of evidence to support her case as this?
If you want to know: Do I think the pilot was committing an act of jihad? No. I never did. I saw no evidence to make me think so, and Pamela’s article did not imply that there was any.
Hope this clarifies my position.
Maz- Read 25,000 for the erroneous 2500 in my previous comment.
Pam Geller was the first site to link to the FB site. Also, when she linked it, there were no comments yet. So yeah, she created it. ROFLMAO at you, Moishe. Kill any Christian Palestinian kids today or what?
They must have let Dan out on a weekend pass. I picked it up from other press coverage,
Nuts.
“Moishe”?
Pam’s right. You’re nuts, and a racist bigot to boot.
Indeed. Of course – these idiots would just LOVE for it to be a Muslim extremist. Somehow it would make the sick freaks happier about 150 people having been killed.
Without evidence? 25,427 deadly terrorist attacks for allah since 9/11
You are the sick shit:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Islam’s Latest Contributions to Peace”Mohammed is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are harsh
to the unbelievers but merciful to one another” Quran 48:29
2015.03.26 (Loralai, Pakistan) – Muslim terrorists machine-gun six police officers point-blank in their vehicles.
2015.03.25 (Sirte, Libya) – Five people near a power station are lit up by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.25 (Nangarhar, Afghanistan) – Three children, a farmer and a cow are all sent to Allah by Taliban bombers.
2015.03.24 (al-Baghdadi, Iraq) – Caliphate terrorists send mortars into a neighborhood that take apart eight innocents, including three children and their mother.
2015.03.24 (Lahore, Pakistan) – Islamists on motorbikes open fire on a church.
2015.03.24 (Taiz, Yemen) – Shiite militia open fire on a group of unarmed demonstrators, killing six.
thanks for crawling out of your cave with your ISIS buddies to share stories of Muslims being killed by Extremists who share your disgusting philosophy of hate. You can now return to your cave or would you prefer a rock this time? xx
Gelller is a hate filled monster. see here
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
No it’s not. Why would a pilot call himself an artist, let alone name his page Adreas Lubitz Fans?
That is NOT his facebook page. It was created the day after the crash! And there is only one ‘user’ noted.
That’s a fan page set up by some sicko after the plane crashed.
You aren’t serious. That is not HIS Facebook page. That is a “Fan Site” (check the account name next to the photo). Anyone can create such an account. So how about something from his actual account, not one someone else does?
Some days I real wish I was a liberal, then I wouldn’t have to make excuses for the uninformed on the right side of the political spectrum.
I’m not a Muslim. I’m a right libertarian born as a Catholic, denounced my religion 25 years ago (it is hypocritical and intolerant at best), and consider myself atheist. Looking at all the information starting from Michael Mannheimer’s page on his own domain (article has been removed) I will conclude that at this time there is no evidence to support the claim that he was a Muslim convert. Heck, there isn’t even evidence saying his problem during the flight was actually depression either.
Read this site FFS.
If what you say is true then Muslims should be banned from being airline pilots. But that idea will meet with heavy resistance from the PC crowd.
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Well,if the PC crowd are that worried they can take their mega government, ie, taxpayer hand outs and form jihadi airways fr themselves and their PC, loopy libertine budskis. However, anyone flying jihadi airways must be forbidden from flying any other carrier.
Resist them back,
as happened recently at USC with communist L Gutierrez’s Illegal Invasion townhall.
(Like the man said: “Resist We Much.”)
It’s in German? Can’t read it.
You can paste a URL into google translate on the left, then click the one that appears on the right and it will translate the page.
It is currently 404 (not found), here’s a cached version translated to English: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcache%3AyzLjkwEI9pkJ%3Amichael-mannheimer.net%2F2015%2F03%2F26%2Fcopilot-der-airbus-ungluecksmaschine-war-islamkonvertit-er-steuerte-die-maschine-bewusst-gegen-den-berg%2F%2B%26cd%3D5%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk%26gl%3Dus
TY!
Miichael Mannheimer and Pam Gellar are both Jewish. Lying is just a part of what Jews will do to try to promote hatred toward Muslims. No one else is saying this including his family.
“PC crowd”?? How about “reality crowd”? Jews have committed more treachery against nations than any muzzie ever. Such nonsense you speak.
Oh please. Muslims are the worst.
Jews seem to be content to keep their religion among their own people while muzzies are tetermined to shove their religion down our throats at the point of a sword. Jews have given us considerable contributions to medicine and science while muzzies bring us little else but destruction and death and murder.
Ah yes Christians would never force their religious views down the throats of others… oh wait, let me get an LGBT friend and see what he says.
I didn’t say anything about Christians. In fact I don’t believe that God exists. But the worst case for Christians is those Westborough fools and maybe a handful who have killed abortion doctors.
Compare that to the hundreds of severed heads of small children impaled on stakes. What is the difference between Mohammed and Jesus? As far as I know Jesus never killed anyone.
in the future or 2nd coming, Jesus kills
There is not going to be a 2nd coming.
Correction: God does. And with good reason. Hope you’re on the right side of the fence. 😉
You’ll have to pull him away from trying to shove his views down the throats of others,
In Canada I have more concerns about having my throat cut by a non-Muslim with a mental condition while riding a Greyhound bus.
Sure your name is not Mohammad?
Quite shocking you believe Pamelas lies http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
My you have a fancy italian name?
Get a grip of yourself
Can easily pay cash for a car, but have no need for one.
A camel then?
Or a pullcart. Maybe a tricycle!
shhhh…u made me snorkle 🙂
And you probably won’t find Jihadi Bus Driver Shaheeds. Or won’t you? They do like to plow their cars into crowds of infidels.
Ummm, lemme see,,,how about “What difference does it make?”
xxxxx
They might give you a headache but a muslim will take yours and your friends heads off for supporting and practicing LGBT. Put things in perspective will you?
Yes, and a lot of crimes (killings and beatings) of the LGBT community most of which aren’t related to Muslims over the years. Christians are far more vicilized in how they kll the LGBT I guess? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States
And then you have the ever so civilized pastors like Steven Anderson use the bible and pure hatred to extol the virtues of killing all the gay people in the name of Christianity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States
And then you have all those lovely Catholics who must do rape and sodomy of children and then get covered up by Bishops and then moved around so the predators could get a chance to do it all over again with new congregations. And how does the head of the church first respond? Blame it on the victims.
Ah yes, Christians extremism. They rob, kill, beat, rape, sodomize others. ISIS/ISL do the same thing. Seems extremist Christians and Muslims live in the same cesspool.
I doubt if christians are shoving their views down the LGBT throat, it is just that the LGBT are hating the christians for declaring sodomy a sin.
Go watch Douglas Murray – an exceedingly articulate blogger with the Spectator and outspoken ‘Islamaphobe’ – oh and a gay man as well. Stop letting your bias blind you from the real and present danger we all face irrespective of our color, race, creed, gender or sexual orientation. Islam has come ‘out of the closet’ and is here not only to ‘shove’ their religion ‘down your throat’ but to cut it if you refuse to swallow – wake up!
I have never heard Christians forcing non christians to convert to christianity or be beheaded, raped, enslaved lately. Have you ? Somehow i don’t think you have.
haha idiot. Quite shocking you believe Pamelas lies http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
I have never experienced having Jews trying to convert me to their religion. The destruction and death and murder of the muzzies has been well documented not just here but also in the news.
Jews view non-Jews as non-human. They don’t convert animals to their religion which teaches them they are the master race. Why no condemnation of Jewish terrorism, (btw Lubitz was a Jew, not a Muslim) such as the Irgun who murdered hundreds of Brit’s in the 1940s, and the many American’s, such as Rachel Corrie, murdered by Israeli Government terrorists. Read the Talmud and learn how Jews feel about you.
I assume you refuse to use Algebra, Trigonometry, or use some medicines as they were created by Muslims.
There are good and bad in nearly all religions and people. Man interprets everything to serve his selfish desires. The Constitution of the U.S., for example, has been turned from a document guaranteeing a free people to one enslaving them. The few radical Muslims today are no more evil than the radical Christians, or the radical Jews. Evil is evil, period.
Muslims did not create math…non-Muslim Arabs did all that.
Wrong. Higher mathematics, such as Algebra, were built upon in the 9th and 10th centuries by Islamic scholars such as Al-Kwarizmi, who built upon on the works of Greek mathematicians such as Euclid, Archimedes, and Apollonius, and Indian mathematicians such as Aryabhata, and Brahmagupta.
Hence, Al-Jabr.
How blind can you be! How much lies can a man write in a couple of lines?! Man, you should be the one to repent from your nonsense! Just read your book and see what kind of a murderer, a man who also married a child (how would you call that today? hmm ?!), you are following and have put your faith in!! Really, he and you aren’t an exemple, for none of us! And you dear to accuse Christians!?!?!
My book? What book is that? I follow no man made religion, so try again.
Read the Talmud and see how loving the Jews are. It condones sex with little girls as young as 4 years of age. The Jews are the ONLY people on the earth that God their God had to give them laws against sleeping with
animals, every other people got it by common sense! If the Jews are/wwere so great, why did Christ condemn them and call them the synagogue of Satan!? You appear to claim a Christian, yet fail to know the teachings of the founder.
As I said, evil is evil period. You clearly believe evil is evil if a Muslim does it. Let me guess, you’re a product of government operated American education system and you believe what you are told instead of seeking the truth for yourself. Either that, or you are a plant to further the lies and deception those want of brains believe.
Oh. So I guess someone with a certain last name that points to a certain background is not capable of leaving that background/belief system for another…. Like it’s not happening all over the world w/Islam, regardless of what faith people were raised in, or the spelling of their lasts names.
I see….
He didn’t have any Jewish hatred toward German propaganda on his computer. Islam propaganda, however….
Right….
I have a friend w/a Jewish last name b/c she married one. Now divorced, does that make her a Jew & therefore, a German hater? Nope. Don’t even practice any religion at all. Can’t be bothered to go thru the hoops to take her name back. Hilarious how many people think she’s Jewish, tho. lol
Miichael Mannheimer and Pam Gellar are both Jewish. Lying is just a part of what Jews will do to promote hatred towards Muslims.
You left out the part where Jews are targeting and murdering Palestinian children. Ya follow that.
You are a moron..
Such KaKa you spew,
you are quite stupid aren’t you?
That is the most uneducated comment I have seen in a while! How about Muslims killing 270 million and counting over a 1400 year history. That includes approx. 60 million Jews and Christians.
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Indian historians have estimated that 600 million have died from Islamic attacks.
Where did you get your stats? I’m not challenging you. I’m looking for info. What I have is pretty reliable.
Dammmmmmm
How about Russian jews killing 100milliion Cristians?
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Well Giacomo, it’s obvious that people who hate Jews would automatically search web sites such as europeanknights and national-liberation,which everybody well know they are followers of nazis. They are admirers of hitler and had claimed that the Jews slaughtered over 500 millions Russians .Anybody who hate Jews will absolutely believe anything bad they write about Jews and Israel.
@disqus_0y6foT6yhZ:disqus
……..”which everybody well know they are followers of nazis”…….
Well dear Jane what you claim is utter nonsense. Reading a crime story doesn´t make a person a murderer.
In order to make the correct decision or to be able to fight my worst enemies I have to know the facts. I can only fight (and win the fight) an enemy I know very well. So I have to find out about and understand my enemy´s world view and use it in my counter-strategy.
An atheist tried to fact check the unreferenced claims that Pamela made about the 270 million. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39361_Fact-Checking_Pamela_Geller-_270_Million_Victims_of_Islam
Why hasn’t Pamela provided the number that Christians and Jews have killed? Ah things like that don’t help her narrative.
I bet nowhere near 270 millions.
Go and stick your head in the sand and take a deep breath.
“”Guatemala via the Middle East?
Get yourself a job working for a muzzie family in Saudi. You will enjoy their ‘hospitality’.
Well said GH
And if he isn’t a Muslim then Muslim’s should be the only one’s allowed to fly planes?
At some point we have to take measures to protect ourselves from terrorists. I think that 149 peoples right to live should trump one Muslims right to be a pilot. OK we haven’t arrived at that point yet, But that could be coming in the future.
As I say, that will meet with heavy resistance from the PC crowd.
It will only come if you believe and promote the rhetoric. We don’t even know if he is Muslim or not. There are a lot of Muslim pilots in the world, and I’d have no problem flying again on Arab carriers around the middle east.
Well BFD to the PC crowd.
> > > ” I think that 149 peoples right to live should trump one Muslims right to be a pilot. OK we haven’t arrived at that point yet, But that could be coming in the future. > > >
Oh YES we have arrived at THAT point. Since when does one islamic imbecile murdering 149 innocent people have ANY RIGHTS AT ALL?
Those 10 Commandments given to Moses needs to be put BACK in our schools and any other place we want them to appear. THOU SHALL NOT KILL/murder!
Looks like we all jumped the gun on this one. Looks like this guy had nothing to do with Islam.
Geller lied to you Quite shocking you believe Pamelas lies http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Europe has much to lose (as they have evidenced for YEARS) by throwing the religion card at all – they have been proven to gloss over these facts, even after KNOWING the religion of the culprits.
Quite shocking you believe Pamelas lies http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
you can fly on planes piloted by muslims assclown
Absolutely I can and don’t mind at all.
Greater fool you, Michael.
Maybe I should have pointed out that my post was purely sarcastic.
That would have been my first thought.
You are posting the link were Michael had his blog about Lubitz being a Muslim convert. You are aware that the link has been a 404 not found error for about 12 hours now.
He took it down because it wasn’t true.
Whose ass did you pull that made up bullshit out of?
Yours
nonsense
heh~
Unbiased reporting and factual information always come out of JihadWatch and romancatholicimperialist?
But our fearless leader stated it was not terrorism and I believe him…./sarc off.
Sure hope they get to the bottom of this action and tell the truth about it
jewish name though
Let me repeat myself, Islam must not be contained. Islam
must be eliminated. Today, the United States’ POTUS is
both a Muslim and a Black, and further-more, the Department
of Defense secretary or CIA Secretary, I surmise, is a Muslim convert? Is there any worry here? Get rid of the vermin.
Terrorism still ruled out.
It has to be a terrorist crime since murdering over a hundred people is not suicide.
No, that just classifies it as mass murder.
Terrorism has a political or religious philosophy or a target group underlying the crime. It is used as a means to an end, not an end in itself, as this appears to be.
PROOF please?
Proof it isn’t true please?
When you’re not looking, your mother sucks horse cock. Proof it isn’t true please? You can’t prove a negative. Epistemology doesn’t work that way.
With a name like Alexander Meadow, you’d be the one to know about horse cock.
let’s see your real name, internet tough guy.
He was Jewish
Heh
Utter lies you should be ashamed. Geller youre mentioned in this article even for your incitement of Ander Breivik and deceit over Jewish German Lubitz!
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Guacamole Vallone
So should we bomb Iran now? What do you think?
What associates? I have not read a thing about that.
This Facebook page is a fake. It was set up a day after his name was released. Has one like. Someone is just trying very hard to troll and whip up wild stories.
Lubitz is a German and/or Jewish. I am NOT buying this “islamic” rumour at all.
Vaya con dios
Wrong. He was Jewish and spent a year at a kibbutz, and another year training for secret ops with the Mossad. He is related to Israel’s Chief Rabbi Ronen Lubitz of Haifa.
heh
Dan:
Do you agree with John Bolton? Should we bomb Iran now?
I have researched all that you just claim to be the truth and could find evidence of none of it. Even the author of the original claim he converted during the break, Michael Mannheimer of German PI has gone silent when pressed for evidence. I like to air all opinions but only those with some basis in truth, and those for which the author has some sort of evidence.
CEO of Germanwings made a decision to please his Bilderberg buddies.
He had a jewish surname, did not you know? He was a German Jew. I read it.
Again learn to read and quit believing Geller lies
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Excuse me? EVIDENCE PLEASE! We’re just supposed to believe everything this German dude (whoever the hell he is) says… why again? Oh yeah, I forgot, BECAUSE HE’S SAYING WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR! You people will believe absolutely anything, regardless of where it comes from, as long as it supports your preconceived ideas about Islam.
Muslim girlfriend??!! You’re a living demonstration of the fact that some people will quite literally, believe anything. I hope you don’t vote in elections!
You are all f u c k i n g i d i o t s, not every plane crash is related to Jihadism. If it were a terrorist attack, he would’ve shouted all that crap that muslims shout when they blow themselves up before the crash or a note at home. It’s a simple suicide
“Simple suicide?” I’m not sure I define suicide as killing 148 innocent people.
Maybe he did shouted all that crap and they are not telling us. Did you hear the actual tapes yourselves? Or did you just read the “transcript” in the papers
maybe he said the Hail Mary and pledged allegiance to Pamela Geller. I have as much proof as you do.
Of course it isn’t any surprise that right wing religious extremists would find any excuse to use the Internet to promote some religious rhetoric and lies towards those that hold a competing religious viewpoint. Next week it will be back to blaming Obama for everything.
Well said x
What Islamic aspect of the murder? He was jewish!! nonsense http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
I highly doubt he was islamic. Seriously what kind of facebook page only has 1 “like”. Pamella can imply anything she likes. Let’s fact check EVERYTHING instead of jumping on the 1st guess.
Here is a much better website of his hometown and his background.
http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/andreas-lubitz-copilot-germanwings-flight-4u9525-plane-crash-french-alps/
The dedication page was completely fresh and didn’t have time to gather enough likes.
Oh please. get a grip. Any Facebook user can “like” any page. Just because someone makes a faux “tribute” page does not mean the page creator has the approbation or approval of the person in whose “honor” it was made.
Yeah and Pammy was just there at the inception. How does that happen…. Unless…. she was there at the inception.
Yeah “sure”, Abdul…. there are plenty of more congratulations for this murder gathered on facebook by Muslim animals. The police are researching the owners of the posts as we speak. Rest assure Pamela won’t be arrested for any.
that facebook page was set up to honor Lubitz. Let’s just wait and see if there is truth in what is stated by those “fans”.
Facebook took down Lubitz’s own page. Why? I think that there was something on that page regarding Lubitz’s political and theological beliefs. I would suggest that he was not a Lutheran or a Baptist.
Nope. I saw his page yesterday night based on German media reports. There was absolutely NOTHING in it about Islam (lots about his Beechcraft Bonanza fandom though). German security has been monitoring mosues like the one in Bremen. They have zero on him on that count. Long time friends and co-workers have indicted that he showed ZERO interest in Islam. He had previously been treated for depression however, and SSRIs can have some nasty knock-on effects. You’d be less satisfied however I am sure, if it turned out that he was merely committing suicide with blatant disregard for the fact that he was taking 149 other people with him.
He may have been committing suicide, but he was also a cold blooded premeditated murderer of 150 people that deserve to be alive now, instead of dead because of his evil intentions.
Boy is your face red. And stupid. Stupid and red is how we describe your face, forever. smh
“Long time friends and co-workers have indicted that he showed ZERO interest in Islam.”
What’s your source for that?
Yes, I would be truly less satisfied if that were the case. It is amazing how sure you are of someone you do not know based on a simple statement.
JJ prove your claims.
Oops. You could not have been more wrong. Looks good on you. Did you learn anything today? If it looks like a duck….
Aussie, noone yet knows if his own page was taken down by fb, or by a relative or someone who knows his password, but tbh i personally think his gf put the site down because his full name became known, and his page probably got storm’d
They dragged his computer out of his house with a report that something was found on it. I’m pretty sure it was alot more than an email to his Mom saying “I’m depressed Mommy”.
Really, looks like it has been confirmed, he was a MUSLIM TERRORIST.
you saying it has been confirmed (or any right wing propaganda media) saying it is confirmed without any REAL evidence does not make it real. the families of those that have been lost do not deserve your lies, have some respect!
Got reality? Didn’t think so.
go back under your rock and leave the discussion to adults who can actually think for themselves.
You’re not thinking, you’re clearly towing the line.
yes the line is called reality and honesty, you’re clearly snorting the line
Yes it is. Try putting the mirror down and snort some reality. You need it bad.
bless, you really are struggling, come back a) when you grow up and b) when you can actually substantiate any of your verbal diarrhea
You are certainly not the boss here. And evidently, your girlfriend mounts you, so we can see your position in life. How very telling. Better get to those dishes before she wakes up.
lol, so tell me are you the little boy fingering the dog from behind or the dog who likes to be fingered? I think your status needs to be dropped from Idiot to Troll
I suggest you just let these idiots fester in their own misery. You can’t reason with people so blinded by their own prejudice.
“your girlfriend mounts you”
have you ever had sex? I mean, monkeys can do it, so I assume you can too, but still…
you are definitely the worst lay of everybody you’ve ever fucked.
Toeing.
Utter lies and the Geller should be ashamed. Geller youre mentioned in this article even for your incitement of Ander Breivik and deceit over Jewish German Lubitz
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Thank you, I like your view of it.
What is the muslim aspect of the pilot?
This was surely the acts of a muslim. Or if not, you could say his acts were almost ‘muslish’.
Honestly, I have no idea what his religion was, and nor do I care. He might also have been unconscious if he had suffered a stroke or a heart attack.
well the german news and politics are making up a story that he had a mental breakdown in his younger years, but even that sounds cheese, i believe there is more 2 the crash, then just some suicide out of depression. also the german news for instance only keep talking bout the 16 teenagers and both teachers. all other victims are not honor’d or mentioned mostly, it feels kinda odd, some things are strange. and i bet we will never hear the actual truth what happened to this plane but rather some made up story, to not affect lufthansa*
Truth is out. Its the obvious one you steered clear of. Your credibility? Its over there, in the gutter with the dog feces.
He wouldn’t have set the autopilot to slowly dive into the side of a mountain if he was “unconscious” . That is definitely a conscious act, as is overriding the other pilot’s ability to get back into the cockpit. use that brain that God gave ya, kid.
If he had suffered a stroke or heart attack he wouldn’t have locked the door so the senior pilot couldn’t get in.
Sorry, he was JEWISH
Revenge for the Holocaust
Everything points currently at him being crazy, not muslim.
Sometimes one in the same.
being moslem is being crazy insane.
He was a Muslim and another crazy one, it has been confirmed.
Oops. Wrong. Wrong as you could be? Embarrassed? you should be.
Not as embarrassing as those toothy blowjobs your mom trades for meth.
He was a Muslim convert. Mainstream media is just not reporting it yet.
He’s a moslem. What more do you need?
Why do you want him to be a moslem so badly? He’s not, now go cry in a corner poor kid. Better luck next time huh
“Thou shalt not LIE”
Good Luck in HELL!
Many of them are apologetic, self loathing, left sided, “progressives” who ridicule and slam conservatives for being…conservative. All the while they defend Islam because they are “open minded”. (although they love to slam Christianity anytime they can) It’s as if they have no idea that the theology in front of them makes conservatives look like freewheeling and nature loving hippies. Ironic really. Maybe they’re defeatists hoping their heads get chopped off last…who knows…?
You’re a moron. Nobody knows why or how this happened yet. And it’s cretins like you that play into terrorists hands by spreading more terror. Do the world a favour: Dry up and blow away.
Embarrassed yet? HA| HA HA HA! Wrong as you possibly could have been. In fact, were you paid to be wrong, you couldn’t have been any more wrong than you are right now. And you did it for free and on a world scale. smh
wait, what’s the source that says he was muslim convert? a facebook page? do you believe everything you read on facebook? i’ll go over there now and create a Pamela Geller page that shows her as a secret muslim. It’s not hard to do.
How about German Intelligence. Is that enough credibility for you?
Link? because there has been no announcement.
If he posted a link the Bundesnachrichtendienst would kill anyone who read it.
maybe they dont cover it because its bullshit?
but really if you believe a story based on a random facebook page im sure you still believe there are WMDs in iraq
Utter lies you should be ashamed. Geller youre mentioned in this article even for your incitement of Ander Breivik and deceit over Jewish German Lubitz.
http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Really? OK, so what are YOU doing about it, tough guy? Real easy to talk a good game, a little harder to take action to back it up. I’m so F’ing tired of all the Right Wing Nuts telling us that the sky is falling, but offering absolutely zero practical ideas about how we might go about propping it up (and, no, “nuking the entire Middle East” is NOT a practical idea). Why is it so important to you people that this incident be put down to “RadIslam”? Do you really think anyone in the world is actually of the opinion that Islamic terrorism is not a threat? Sorry to burst your bubble, but you’re not special. Everyone already understands perfectly the threat posed Islamic extremists. So if you’re so concerned about the situation, how about anteing up and joining the Army or something? If you’re going to act like an A-hole, at least put your money where your mouth is….
We are doing something….We are making every effort to ensure another Islam-loving, Anti-American socialist never again seizes control of the powerful country in history. And in so doing, aids, comforts, and expedites the Islamists’ goals of the destroying Western Culture in every political and economic way…
It will be a tall order, with foolish progressives helping Islamists (never realizing all their progressive ideas will be the FIRST to be destroyed by Islamists ), but we’ll get it done despite you. But the cost to our culture and future generations will brutal.
The pilot was Jewish, bro
You should try not being so much of a bigot and xenophobe
Believe me- had he been Islamic in ANY WAY the media would have been all over it! You have GOT to be joking…
You do realize that’s a fake FB page right? Andreas Lubitz Fans? God you
people are gullible. First of all the facebook their sighting, it isn’t
his genius. It was created after the crash and is called Andreas
Lubitz Fans. FANS or fans of Andreas Lubitz. Andreas Lubitz is the
guys name not Andreas Lubitz Fans. The news source their sighting? Is
also new. PI media is fake. Go to their FB page they put it up the day
after the plane went down as well. Why do you people lack critical thinking skills?
What Islamic aspect of the murder? He was jewish!! http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Probably because there isn’t an Islamic element to it
I love how idiots believe the Islamic aspect of this. Wow, some idiot made a Facebook page. That takes like 2 minutes?
Dont you grasp how evil it is to pin this on Muslims when in fact the man that perpetrated it was prbly Jewish? Capisce? Wake up!!! They’re inciting us to hate Muslims, bomb their countries by demonizing Muslims any chance they get. I’m not fan of Islam but I am TIRED of being told who to hate by Zionist Jews like Pam Geller. If that isn’t anti Semitic (Arabs are ACTUAL Semites) then what is? This is the sort of lies we are fighting http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2015/03/germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-praised-on-facebook-our-holy-martyr-lubitz-died-for-our-prophet.html/
Dont you grasp how evil it is to pin this on Muslims when in fact the man that perpetrated it was prbly Jewish? Capisce? Wake up!!! They’re inciting us to hate Muslims, bomb their countries by demonizing Muslims any chance they get. I’m not fan of Islam but I am TIRED of being told who to hate by Zionist Jews like Pam Geller. If that isn’t anti Semitic (Arabs are ACTUAL Semites) then what is? This is the sort of lies we are fighting http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/
Maybe because it’s fake and the only ‘proof’ is a Facebook fanpage that anyone could have made? I’m sure Pammy made it herself! You people are so freaking gullible.
There is no “Islamic aspect”… they actually have no idea why the co-pilot crashed the plane!
Michael Mannheimer and Pam Gellar are both Jewish. Gellar is linked to an anti-Islamic hate group.
Maybe that’s because there’s nothing in it. I almost hesitate to point out the obvious, but there it is.
So it that the pic of his page before it was scrubbed? Oh fans.
This profile was not on FB this morning and I seriously doubt that it is genuine. Anybody could make it up. Shame.
Yeah, I’m sure Bigfoot or Ancient Aliens did it, just for you.
You don’t actually know how Facebook works, do you?
Is that some sort of Islamic scarf he’s wearing around his neck?
I’m guessing not. Those kinds of scarves have been popular for decades in Europe for both men and women.
Maybe he’s a gay terrorist, then.
:-). Wouldn’t even want to speculate…. Most European men seem to dress like that.
Died for their prophet and not Allah,,, it just goes to show that they worship Muhammad..
Yep, according to our governments, police and media of betrayal, Islam is the only ideology that has nothing to do with itself.
What a great line!!!! It is so true.
Hey thanks, NQ, you’re too kind. Islam having “nothing to do with itself” is actually a line by the fun and witty conservative Australian blogger Tim Blair, who is a close friend of Iowahawk, Mark Steyn and Andrew Bolt, among others.
muhamMAD is how it should be spelt
That’s not his Facebook, assholes. One random dude makes a fan page and likes it and now he’s a Muslim?
And so are you.
Agreeing with Jj! That sh** page has been deleted by FB, but at the moment there are at least 20 pages with the co pilot’s name, in different languages, saying he’s a murderer, while a lot of questions are still left unanswered!!! So if the main pilot didn’t have to go to the toilet, the plane wouldn’t have crashed ?
Two nitwits, one thread. Please don’t breed. Turds like you make it easy for Islam.
You really seem to have this fecal fascination…
That and that mosque he was a member of after converting to Islam. Got it now Proffesor Orifice??
You mean the mosque that happened to be in the same area where he did his pilot training? Ah yes that is connecting the dots and then coloring outside the lines.
Too early to tell but that’s the first thing I thought of when they said the pilot brought the plane down intentionally.
Man, what is going on with an individual? !? I walk past the homeless, drug addicts, alcoholics, in their 50s, they’ harm no one else but themselves. FIFTY YEARS OF AGE.
What is going on with the young folks losing what beliefs?!?
People have been killing each other for a million years. Go take a history class. There’s nothing “going on with these young folks” . It’s the same throughout history, there will always be and always have been crazy/evil people.
I agree, but also believe there is something increasingly wrong with people these days. You need to compare things today over a long period of time. Between being over medicated, misplacing life priorities, shrinking brains (and IQ’s/achievement scores) and a society that readily accepts, integrates, and apologizes for those who do not follow, recognize, or respect civility, community, or social norms (with an increasing lack of fear for after life judgement), we really do have some compounding issues on our doorsteps.
Blame the liberalism of modern “feminism.” It’s largely destroyed the basis of a strong home, which has drastically affected Western society, bringing it to even more social decline by perpetual softness introduced by skyrocketing rates of divorce, single mothers, broken homes, prolonged marriages, “sexually-liberated” women who go on to shame men for the same sexual liberation, a sharp rise in “beta” males produced by “modern” parenthood where parents try to be their kids’ friends more than strong parents, and where pussy men go on to do stupid things in trying to survive in this increasing kind of “liberated” society.
As it gets more socially-protected for many women and beta males to do things men couldn’t do, men are increasing labeled as the bad guys oppressing women’s freedoms–even though women have all basic rights in Western society for about a century now, and have grown so complacent that they do things like bitch about the taxpayers not paying for their abortions, all until society finally did and all while telling people to stay out of their sex lives. Women want the right to walk down the streets topless legally for purely vain exhibitionistic reasons, but ready to label busty video game characters as promoting a “rape culture” among males.
They’re not the whole blame for declining society, but boy, are they a major contributor. If we get a woman president, she’ll break this debt-laden socially-decayed nation for sure.
This can just as easily be a fake page which authorities will find belongs to someone on the Right. No need to jump to conclusions.
Sadly, someone who plunged into a depression has altered brain chemicals–changes everything they feel and do if untreated. If he had some underlying condition, or disorder such as narcissism, he may not have realized the outcome. If he was on Celexa for depression, typically prescribed for lighter depressive episodes, that could explain–in some people it causes “happy and settled” ideas about suicide as being the answer to their problems. They don’t dread it or even feel that it’s a problem, nor do they comprehend how suicidal action could impact people the care about. Just wondering… especially since it was reported that no one noticed any problem after his absence with depression–this drug makes people seem light and “okay” when they’re not. Brain chemistry is a dangerous thing to mess with. And cation needs to be taken per individual since various drugs affect persons differently.
Don’t EVER bandwagon this stuff…it can be used by this Administration to condemn the awareness (of the dangers of radical Islam) movement. Time will tell. It would not be surprising if it’s associated–islamic jihadis try plane hijacking pretty routinely–but there could be many reasons.
More often, we see people accusing “the Right” of such tactics. That’s how we know it’s almost exclusively a tactic used by Dem punks.
Murdering hundreds of innocent people isn’t suicide.
I wonder if pilots ever advertise their conversion to Islam, especially if they have a radical streak.
Actually, if a person is on a medication which magnifies certain side effects (such as the happy suicide “solution”), then they are absolutely not able to think rationally. So it CAN be a suicide even if it harms others. Which is why anti-depressant patients need close monitoring. I know it sounds crazy, but those are the verifiable facts on psych meds. Was he on Celexa? Was he a jihadi? Who knows. Time will tell.
OK, thats reasonable. Maybe so.
Really wonder what the governments did with the info on his identity, though. Did they have time to scrub his FB page? Did the White House have time enough to direct their buddies at Google to erase links to Islam from the pilot?
Nah. You do not understand terminology.
There is a very large group of people who are conservative. They are neither right nor left. The right as it was prior to and during world war 2 were Socialists who had a slightly different idea about government control. The Left were the Communists. Spain had a war between the right wing socialists who were the followers of General Franco and the Communists who were the Left. Hitler was a Right wing socialists with tendencies relating to controlling people. Stalin was of the left and he ran Russia in a different way. Italy was controlled by Right Wing Socialists. In Europe this has not changed very much. The Socialists remain in control of most of Europe with power shifting from Right to Left, but it is still Socialists in control.
I would not get excited about the possibility that he was on anti-depressants. It might be that he was on nothing.
(I take an anti-depressant not for depression but for pain management purposes and I have no suicidal thoughts. The same was true when I was previously on an anti-depressant – no suicidal thoughts).
I have doubts about the depression angle.
Right. Because your own anecdotal experience with SSRIs must mean everyone else’s metabolism and experience is IDENTICAL to yours. /smdh!
This verse is for all muslims.. since they are all liars about everything…Rev 21-8…all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
You have to fight moslems like they fight us. Otherwise we already lost. Moslem can lie and do whatever is neccessary to spread islam. In fact whatever spreads islam is the truth. Moslems will use taqiyya at every opportunity. SPread lies and disinformation and gullible westerners will believe the lies and think that moslems have proclivity for telling the truth like normal people. The same tactic must be used against moslems. No matter if it was an act of jihad or a madness. The urgent need to fight islam dictates to blame moslems for the crash and mock mohammed. Spread the word accross all media, among people. Pamela Geller might be the one under scrutiny and enemedia is only waiting for her to write something not accurate, but anonymous commenters shouldn’t be afraid to roll out big guns.
http://shoebat.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harun1-copy-2.jpg
Yeah the media always tells it straight!
Ya know, there’s obviously not enough guns around. If ya want to off yourself, deep throat a .357 and do others no harm, whatever your religion. Mass murder in the name of your own misery fits one parameter, but if Obama’s in charge of the investigation, he’ll call it workplace violence. Good job Jerkel and Company.
Agree.
More workplace violence in response to the Crusades.
Nothing to see here. Just keep moving. Sheep.
Obviously NO there is not, OR the lock could have been shot off the door and the pilot gained access to the cockpit
these doors are bullet proof with an inch and a half of Kevlar and then heavy reinforcements. You can’t break them down with a gun.
Guys, these guys are just trolling. They are using this and creating even more fear for us… this has nothing to do with ISIS or Islam. The first officer was not a Muslim. I am opposed to Islam, but I reiterate, as a pilot for a major European airline, and with the basis of all the findings, it is not religiously motivated. End of.
Message noted for future reference.
I wouldn’t rule it out, WJ. But I’d like some evidence. I’m bothered that the airline withheld his name for so long. I read they “scrubbed” his Facebook page.
Still, someone who knew him would have noted his new-found religion if he was a convert. It has to remain a possibility along with mental-illness and other psychopathic modalities.
clearly we don’t know if it is true but it is perfectly possible in view of his profession he was told not to publicize his conversion. Do u think these jihadis are stupid. He would have been a tremendous asset operating stealth. Aside from facebook if you google his name with muslim it brings up some reports. Also that he had recently broken up with muslim GF. I do not trust the authorities to be forthcoming about this they certainly were not in ’97 over the egypt air 990 crash with pilot screaming Alluh Akbar. Atlantic ran a story on this.http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/11/the-crash-of-egyptair-990/302332/
Is there any difference between converting to that “religion” and mental-illness?
There is a huge difference, sometimes mental illness happens to normal good people who cannot handle stress in life and do not seek the professional help to get them through that stress.
Making a conscious choice to become a convert to a religion who’s founder was a child rapist pedophile is not mental illness because it is an act of conscious will.
In other words, though I agree with your sentiment that you need to be disturbed to become a convert to the religion of Islam it does not reflect medially observable mental illness which normal people go through and get help with.
Mental distubance describes the case of the Aussie boy Jake Bilardi. He was mentally disturbed and had been raised as an atheist. He was looking for something and he joined Islam. He wound up being used as a suicide bomber. I am not certain that this scenario is correct for the co-pilot of the aircraft.
I want to know what motivated him… and somehow I believe that Islam was the motivation.
Taking down a plane IS TERRORISM, no matter who does it. HE decided to KILL 150 people, taking it down, he IS ONE
Yes, mental illness is more treatable and less dangerous.
One can excuse the mentally ill from moral blame. Islam doesn’t get off the hook so easy. But you point on the irrationality of that religion is well taken.
First officer = right hand seat. That was the pilot in the flight deck who had locked the captain out, as he had gone for toilet…It’s not religiously motivated. Anyway, time will tell…
“Taking down a plane IS TERRORISM, no matter who does it. HE decided to KILL 150 people, taking it down, he IS ONE”. End of it.
Terorrism is unauthorised use of violence for political aims. I see no political aims here.
I agree per se…but if one was in one of the passenger seats, one would see a lot of terror. And isn’t there a line somewhere about all acts are at some level, political, especially public ones?
Please tell us you are joking and you’re not really this thick? First of all, nothing in the article says the pilot is or was Muslim or had any association to Isis. Second, the article only shows that he is being hailed as a martyr by some pro-terror supporter(s). Third, the “findings” is still in investigative process. Your entire comment has been nothing but fantasies and assumptions.
Basically, these people who made the page are playing with our anger and frustration. They are trollers. Lubitz had no link to Islam or IS. Forget about it.
That’s not exactly correct. It is stated in many articles across the internet, and newspapers, he had a Muslim g/f, and lots of Muslim friends in the 5-10 Mosques in the area he lived in. Time will tell, the rest
he’s muslim
“Died a martyr? Muslims haven’t the slightest idea of what a real Martyr is. real martyrs do not commit suicide and murder others with their crazy suicides. “Thou shalt not kill/murder” that’s God’s commandment/will. any prophet who thinks he can change that is a total fool and no true prophet. “Islam” is nothing but a delusive heresy and fraud of the true legitimate faiths of Judaism and Christianity. Islam worships a sick monster, an evil blood thirty tyrant of a god, pretending to be the only God.
love those 666s on his black flag,& the snake on the big W. That is a big red flag for me. Beware, evil here!
Even if it proven beyond all doubt that he was muslim they will still say that this had nothing to do with Islam.
Yep, according to our Shari complaint governments, wilful silly police and media of betrayal, Islam is the only ideology that has nothing to do with itself.
Seems like workplace violence.
This is amazing the spirit of Andreas created his page .. Big F WOW
No. a page created by a few crazies does not mean the pilot was Muslim. And, the page no longer exists.
It seems to be a Facebook fan page made just for someone to attract attention and likes to salve their undernourished egos. Clearly. I’m ashamed at this article for trying to spread propaganda based off of JUST this.
I told you here:
“Catastrophes: Yes, there soon will be catastrophes. At least one will happen before April 25th, but it may only be a catastrophe for The Good.”
— Doc Holliday
http://b1ff5939f6.nxcli.net/2015/02/terrorist-in-the-white-house.html/
And if you’re still asleep, you better damn well wake up and realize what is coming:
Gigantic special farces, entire region of the country, multi-month, “integrated with civilian administration” takeover operational exercise.
Jade Helm: Troops to “Operate Undetected Amongst Civilian Population”
Texas: “Hostile territory.”
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Covert-warfare-comming-to-Texas-6157685.php
Anyone still think they’re training to protect the fatherlund against muslim terrorists?
“Mastering the Human Domain” – You better believe that.
Why has his FB site been changed since his death? Someone intentionally deleted all the Mohamadista references and added a beer comercial?
Mohamadism is a mental illness.
You’re a fucker. The co-pilot had nothing to do with Islam. Go eat some more shit.
You’re eloquent.
Oh yes, by the by, he actually was a Mohamadista
Actually, there is no evidence he was Muslim, and that Website is known to create false stories to stir up hatred.
Are you a Mohamadista, More Faves?
No, unlike you I’m a sane person, not a clueless sheep who is easily led by the nose by hate sites.
You seem to be quite the advocate for the genocidal, blood drenched Mohamadistas. The hatred comes from the left and the Mohamadistas. Only lunatics are sanguine about an enemy that promises to kill or enslave you.
Actually, you and your sick ilk are the ones falsely bring Islam and Muslims into this discussion. Since it has nothing to do with Islam, you are the ones spreading hate and fear, by bringing it up in a case where there is n o connection between the event and the participant.
Pamela Geller took a screen shot of his FB page as soon as his name was known. Why was it scrubbed after his death and all the Mohamdist references removed?
Oops, wrong as hell. LOL Sarah. You should start eating shit now.
That is a fake site, just made….need to vet that story.
I knew from the start that this guy had some affiliation with islam. You don’t need a rocket scientist for that…duhhhhhhh
Next you will tell me this guy was depressed because he is not a Muslim!
What a bunch of low life fraudster.
Stop watching Tel-LIE-vision!
What don’t you understand of the word “fans”?
This is not the FB site of the named co-pilot (if it was really him who flew), but an FB site of fans of his murder action.
Sonderheimer (the co-pilots surname) is jewish? This could be significant if it transpires that Lubitz was a muslim convert?
You mean like them joowish converts in saudi.
al-CIA-da + ISISraHELL
You Zionist Christians and Jews are the real TERRORIST!
To all you sheeples!
This was allowed to happen by God so you dumb dumbs realize planes can not just disappear into concrete and steel i.e 9-11 WTC, just as in this plane became millions of pieces when it hit the Rock!
P.S. There was no planes on 9-11.
All CGI..Computer Graphic Imagery!!!
Hence error upon editing video clip showing nose of one of the supposed plane penatrating one side of WTC and coming out unscathed from the other side like them pinnochio nose!
By the way nose of the plane is not even aluminum. Its a form of fiber glass plastic.
One event does not a “rule” for every other event. Live in the Middle East for a few years and you will see… But don’t blame people who have nothing to do with ops. And don’t think you can make grand generalizations. It’s just plain immature.
You made up that facebook-page. See the “one like”?
“Suicid killer” Lubitz converted to Islam! He often visited a mosque in the northern Germany city Bremen, a mosque which is known as radical. He took a 6 months break from his job six years ago, in that time he might have got his “skills” as radical moslem in Bremen. See her:
http://stthomasaquinasversusnasa.blogspot.de/
You do realize that the person who writes that blog is demonstrably mentally ill.
we are being told he was on his own ?? in the cockpit ,there were muslim passengers on that flight , 150 miles of course to the east heading for Marseille and Toulouse, 7 nuclear re actors in that area ,he lived for years in Marseille ? , 3 French air force jets scrambled and were in pursuit ???
It’s possible the plane crashed because we ain’t played cowboys and muslims yet, but there was a similar incident before so maybe it was an engineering problem:
http://avherald.com/h?article=47d74074/0000
I still can’t rule out that the co-pilot had some kind of medical problem. But if he was a Muz then that would top the list of suspected causes.
Do you Islamophobes ever reach satiety with your demonizing of Islam and Muslims?
al-CIA-da
ISISraHELL
9-11 mother of all LIES
London HOAX
Boston Marathon smokes
Sydney CROOKS
Sandy HOOKS
French FRIES HOAX
Stop watching Tel-LIE-vision before you get brainwashed with Weapons of Mass Deception!
P.s. Real Terrorist wear suits and kill innocent people by slaughtering millions of Muslims based on 9-11 LIES and bogus Terror based on manufactured WeaponsMassDeception.
Hell awaits those that sell their soul for petro$$$ and Federal Reserve fiat currency!
I was just listening to the Fox News Channel and it said that it was recorded that the crashing Wing’s Germany’s pilot said ten times that he was placing his trust in god. This is the phrase that the Egyptian pilot said as he crashed an Egyptian plane into the sea (this was before 9/11) . That doomed plane took off from Boston’s Logan airport (Boston is the epicenter of Islamic terrorism in America, as Pamela Geller pointed out).
Your first mistake was paying the slightest attention to anything Fox News might have to say about anything on any topic.
I should, of course, believe a prevaricator such as Obama and the drive by media, eh? Obama lied when he said if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. I also should believe the drive by media when they said Al Gore won the 2000 election and precipitated a major national voting crises. Give me a break!
Apparently he had a muslime girlfried. He also had a depression a few yrs ago and took time off where he may have converted to Islam. Police found something of interest at his apartment:
http://stthomasaquinasversusnasa.blogspot.ca/2015/03/muslim-convert-co-pilot-andreas-gunter.html?m=1
You can see his girlfriends picture in this profile I found in Italian news. He Italian girlfriend must have been a moslem too. She has blond hair and blue eyes.
https://www.facebook.com/andreas.guenter1
This is supposedly his girl friend….https://www.facebook.com/valeria.cellitti?pnref=lhc
Fake Facebook page!
That facebook profile is a fake, how stupid must you be? id even go as far as to say someone of your co workers created it. there are way 2 many possibility’s for this plane to crash and you use a fake profile to pin point @ terrorism, nice try
So a guy with a Jewish Surname Lubitz check the Jewishgenology.com commits a terrorist act and brain dead westerners still have to find a way to blame the Muzzies. Sad pathetic people who lack self respect. Good Goy.
That Facebook page looks very suspicious with its 1 Like and sudden disappearance.
It’s fake that’s why.
Stop this nonsense. The guy wasn’t a muslim. Insinuating that he was makes about as much sense as those idiot nazis who now claim he was jewish.
Stick to the facts. The guy was a psychopath. He didn’t kill for any ideology. If anything, he looks like a typical “beta” to me. The kind of guy who would never get a woman. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was a typical virgin with rage
He had a long-term girlfriend. Try again.
Airplane mysteriously crashes.
Evidence is found of new story.
Man forced way into cockpit of airplane.
Man deliberately crashed airplane.
General society and media’s immediately ready to look for mental illness as the explanation.
Mental illness is immediately concluded as the “motive” of the deliberate act.
Media paints heinous murderous act as mere “suicide.”
Soft-minded morons among general public go on to shame those who consider this whole inane thing as unnecessary conclusion so readily.
The nature of evil action lives on, with the next set of criminals to be victimized so readily, all another day.
Where is this evidence of someone forcing his way into the cockpit?
Why do I think that if the voice recorder were played for us in full we’d hear “allahu ahkbar” before the plane hit the side of the mountain?
Recent muslim convert. Had something to prove. Broke up with german muslim girl to commit jihad. This happens everyday Israel. Random acts of murder by muslim against Jews. Muslims can not live with other faiths. 30 Christian children were just murdered. Religion of peace.
Airhead Pamela Geller dont know at all if he is a convert ….this page is a hoax for stupid ppl like PAMELA GELLER
Does anyone know where the owner of the Facebook page live, so I can go and kill the bastard?!
^^^ Armchair warrior. ^^^ Page likely put up by some mischief maker just so you would bust an artery in sputtering outrage.
I’d bet dollars to donuts that Facebook page was created by Pamela Gellar.
I mean, only 1 like? “Long live his soul”? Shouldn’t it be Allah Akbar? Hardcore Islamists pray only in Arabic because that’s how Mohamed said to pray.
What a massive fail this article is.
[…] Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz praised on Facebook: ‘Our holy martyr Lubitz died for our prop… […]
I am seriously going to have to rethink everything I read on this website now….I trusted Pam but this is really beyond the pale. No sign points to him being a muzzie. These fake websites were made for fools to think he was.
Maybe they should add the ability to unlock the cabin door from the ground!
Because a Facebook page with one like represents 1.6 billion people.