Craven Cowards at Brandeis Cancel Ayaan Hirsi Ali Honor, Cave to Muslim Thugs’ Demands


On the eve of the bloody anniversary of the Boston Marathon bombings, Brandeis University (just nine miles west of Boston)  said Tuesday that it would cave to Islamic thugs and bullies and  rescind an honorary degree that it had awarded to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a campaigner for women’s rights and a fierce critic of Islamic gender apartheid, creed apartheid and supremacism.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an extraordinary woman. Arguably one of the most brave and outspoken human rights activists of our time, Ali is a fierce defender of women’s rights in Islamic societies. Born in Mogadishu, Somalia,  and raised in Muslim countries, she suffered the misogyny and relentless oppression of daily life under the sharia and was forced to undergo the unimaginable pain and horror of  female genital mutilation.

“She escaped an arranged marriage by immigrating to the Netherlands in 1992 and served as a member of the Dutch parliament from 2003 to 2006. In parliament, she worked on Ayaan Hirsi Alifurthering the integration of non-Western immigrants into Dutch society and defending the rights of women in Dutch Muslim society. In 2004, together with director Theo van Gogh, she made Submission, a film about the oppression of women in conservative Islamic cultures. The airing of the film on Dutch television resulted in the assassination of Mr. van Gogh by an Islamic extremist. At AEI, Ms. Hirsi Ali researches the relationship between the West and Islam, women’s rights in Islam, violence against women propagated by religious and cultural arguments, and Islam in Europe.” (source)

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, under a death fatwa for the past decade, lives under police protection.

Ms. Ali was scheduled to receive an honorary degree from Brandeis University. Who is more deserving of recognition?  Almost as soon as the announcement was made, Muslim Brotherhood groups like Hamas-CAIR and their American sharia enforcers waged a jihad against this honor and demanded Brandeis to rescind the degree.

The Hamas group wrote:

“We believe offering such an award to a promoter of religious prejudice such as Ali is equivalent to promoting the work of white supremacists and anti-Semites. Granting her an honorary degree is unworthy of the American tradition of civil liberty and religious freedom represented by Justice Louis Brandeis and the great university that carries his name.

“While Ali is free to spew anti-Muslim hate in any venue she chooses, she does not have a similar right to be honored for that hate by a prestigious university.

“Whatever Ali has done in the area of human rights has been irreparably tarnished by her anti-Muslim and anti-constitutional rhetoric.

Vicious supremacists (some of whose leadership has been convicted of terror related crimes) have waged a covert war to impose the free speech restrictions under Islamic law on media and academia. And they have done it. There is a blacklist of voices of freedom, while our worst enemies are feted and paid obscene amounts to spew their hate and lies.

Brandeis caved to these thugs. Have they no shame? A university founded on Jewish values cancels a truth-teller.  Is there no one with any principles left? Even the sniveling NY TImes article would not stand up to this fascism. “Facing growing criticism….” Nonsense. it was Muslim thug groups, their leftist lapdogs and the usual suspects like Rashid Khalidi.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali canceled? And by whom? Clueless mental midgets doing the bidding of fanatical practitioners of the most vicious and extreme ideology on the face of the earth. No one is safe. No one. The Islamic leftist machine destroys anyone that stands in the way of their totalitarian goals.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali lived it. A woman of color, a Muslim from Somalia, she risked everything to be free and she turned her life over to educating the West of the systemic oppression and subjugation of women under Islam while forcing the Islamic world to answer for it.

But Brandeis would sooner partner with the Nazis at al Quds University.

America has come undone, lost our bearings. We must awaken our friends, neighbors, co-workers. We must teach our children. Silence in the face of this totalitarianism is sanction.

The university’s namesake, Louis Brandeis once said, “sunlight is the best disinfectant.” They have all but abandoned his principles or the idea of truth. Yes, Brandeis is in dire need of some disinfectant.

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“Brandeis Cancels Plan to Give Honorary Degree to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Critic of Islam,” By Richard Perez-Pena and Tanzina Vegaapril, NY Times, 8, 2014

Facing growing criticism, Brandeis University said Tuesday that it had reversed course and would not award an honorary degree to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a campaigner for women’s rights and a fierce critic of Islam, who has called the religion “a destructive, nihilistic cult of death.”

“We cannot overlook that certain of her past statements are inconsistent with Brandeis University’s core values,” the university said in a statement released eight days after it had announced that Ms. Hirsi Ali and four other people would be honored at its commencement on May 18.

The university said that the president of Brandeis, Frederick M. Lawrence, discussed the matter with Ms. Hirsi Ali on Tuesday, and that she “is welcome to join us on campus in the future to engage in a dialogue.” Universities consider it important to make a distinction between inviting a speaker who may air unpopular or provocative views that the institution does not endorse, and awarding an honorary degree, which is more akin to affirming the body of a recipient’s work.

Attempts to reach Ms. Hirsi Ali late Tuesday by email and telephone were unsuccessful.

At first, it was bloggers who noted and criticized the plan to honor Ms. Hirsi Ali, a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. Within a few days, a Brandeis student started an online petition against the decision at, drawing thousands of signatures. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil rights and advocacy group, took note, contacting its members though email and social media, and urging them to protest to the university.

On Tuesday, a student newspaper, The Justice, reported on the controversy, and the Council on American-Islamic Relations sent a letter to Dr. Lawrence, referring to Ms. Hirsi Ali as a “notorious Islamophobe.”

“She is one of the worst of the worst of the Islam haters in America, not only in America but worldwide,” Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the group, said in an interview on Tuesday. “I don’t assign any ill will to Brandeis. I think they just kind of got fooled a little bit.”

In its statement, Brandeis said, “For all concerned, we regret that we were not aware of” Ms. Hirsi Ali’s record of anti-Islam statements, though those comments have been fairly widely publicized.

“You would think that someone at Brandeis would have learned to use Google,” said Rashid Khalidi, a professor of Arab studies at Columbia University, who said he thought Brandeis had arrived at the right position: not awarding a degree, but welcoming Ms. Hirsi Ali to speak.

Having drawn fire for inviting Ms. Hirsi Ali, Brandeis may now take criticism from other camps, whether for disavowing Ms. Hirsi Ali’s views, or for giving in to Muslim activists.

Even some of Ms. Hirsi Ali’s critics say they understand her hostility to Islam, given her experiences, though they think she goes too far. A native of Somalia, she has written and spoken extensively of her experience as a Muslim girl in East Africa, including undergoing genital mutilation, a practice she has vigorously opposed, and her family’s attempts to force her to marry a man against her wishes.

She moved to the Netherlands as a young woman, and she was later elected to the Dutch Parliament. She wrote the screenplay for “Submission,” a 2004 film critical of the treatment of Muslim women. Shortly after its release, the director, Theo van Gogh, was murdered on an Amsterdam street by a radical Islamist, who pinned to the victim’s body a threat to kill Ms. Hirsi Ali as well.

“She has her very real personal story, she has her views, and she’s free to say what she’d like to say,” said Maya Berry, executive director of the Arab American Institute, an advocacy group. “But for an institution like Brandeis to choose to honor someone like this is really disappointing.”

In 2007, Ms. Hirsi Ali gave an interview to The London Evening Standard that was, by her own telling, the most unvarnished public expression of her views to that point, including the “cult of death” comment. She advocated the closing of Islamic schools in the West and said that “violence is inherent in Islam” and that “Islam is the new fascism.”

Later that year, in an interview with Reason, she said, “I think we are at war with Islam,” and said it must be defeated. “It’s very difficult to even talk about peace now,” she said. “They’re not interested in peace.”

Western leaders like George W. Bush and Tony Blair were striking a very different tone, insisting that they were at war with terrorist factions, not Islam as a whole.

Brandeis said last week that it intended to confer honorary degrees on five recipients, including Ms. Hirsi Ali. One of the recipients is Jill Abramson, the executive editor of The New York Times.

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  1. liberal apologists need to find wisdom or they let Karma decide to make them victims of Islam and then they can again spout out rhetoric on how Muslims are misunderstood.

    1. Do you know anything about Ms. Hirsi Ali, though? There is nothing wrong with advocating for women’s rights; however out-right hate speech and slander is not something that should be honoured.

      1. What about the hate speech against Jews found in all islamic texts dirtbag? Or is some hatred more acceptable than others in your dim little mind?

  2. So, this university that humiliated Hirsi Ali had “sister institution status” with the Al Quds palestinian “university” between 1998 and 2013. The relationship was ended in 2013 following a Nazi-themed demonstration at Al Quds by Islamic Jihad. The demonstration had the approval of the Al Quds university administration.
    Then last week, “sister institution” talks were resumed.
    A clownish computer science professor at Brandeis named Harry Mairson fought for that sisterhood decision.
    He specializes in game semantics.
    On March 7, he said:
    “I won’t stand with the damned (Israel). Neither will Max Blumenthal or Brandeis
    Students for Justice in Palestine. That, in large part, is what their week’s worth of events was about.”
    He needs a lesson in game versus reality.

    1. Had Hirsi Megan told the truth about any part of her life, there would be nothing to be humiliated about….right?

      I mean, what name for this woman can you even put on the diploma? She has lied so much we don’t even be sure what her name is.

      1. I don’t see anything so earth shaking in your little video. Anyone fleeing islam is allowed to say whatever they please as far as I am concerned.

        1. Right, I don’t think anyone would have faulted some Jews during WWII if they’d lied to escape some murdering Nazis. For Muslims, it’s a religious duty to lie for Islam. If Nur Ahmad wants to complain about liars, I think a good place to start would be with the faith she so supports.

          1. Could you explain and go into detail about where you got that “it’s a religious duty to lie for Islam” from? Where does it say that in their book?

        2. I didn’t post the video.
          No one stopped Hirsi Megan from expressing herself about anything, including Islam. That isn’t the issue here. The issue is that before Brandeis knew what she has been saying, they offered her an honorary degree.
          All people who were concerned that Hirsi Megan would tarnish the good name of Brandeis, and dishonor all of those who received, and will receive the honor of this award in the future, was to inform the appropriate people at Brandeis of what Hirsi Megan was about, and they decided not to associate themselves with what she stands for.
          However, lets understand, in order to have free expression, we must own, and be responsible for what we express.
          A peaceful reaction to hurtful and divisive words, is to simply use their own words against them.
          That is what happened to Hirsi Megan.

          1. “No one stopped Hirsi Megan from expressing herself about anything, including Islam.” Not for lack of trying, there are credible death threats against her for speaking out against Islam, Theo is dead, and Ms. Ali is doomed to spend the rest of her life under 24 hour armed protection. Yeah, no one stopped her. Good analysis.

          2. Hirsi Megan is a prisoner of her own lies.

            This is what happens when you don’t appreciate your freedom to express by evaluating and discerning an appropriate way to be truthful, honest, and get your point across without purposefully trying to insult, dehumanize, and disparage a whole segment of humanity based on a claimed personal experience…that in Megan’s case, turned out to be a bold faced lie.

            Funny how you cant see how her words held her back from a great honor. That will happen again, and again, and again. However, no one will stop her from speaking her mind.

          3. Let me get this straight. Are you are denying Hirsi’s story? What proof do you have?
            Even if her story is a fabrication, the truth is that Islam is a mysoginist, oppresssive and inherently violent belief system and there is nothing you can say that will change my mind on this nor change this fact.

          4. I don’t have to deny her story. She admitted she lied on TV when confronted about them.

            Now, for whatever reason she did lie, her personal saga is her selling point, and if it isn’t true, what does she actually stand on to claim that she is being honest.

          5. Personally, she lied to place herself in the situation she is in.
            I don’t have empathy for someone who creates a sword, falls on it, and cries victim.

            Ms. Megan had better get used to rejection. This is the consequences of her lies.

            Lies always have bad outcomes. Lies follow you for the rest of your life.

          6. She is a prisoner of your faith.

            An apostate worthy only of death in the eyes of your fellow travelers.

          7. As I said before, we will have different perceptions of the same thing.

            For you and I, this is one of those times. Neither of us will change our minds, so there is no need to go back and forth any further.

          8. Correct, there is one truth, and both of us disagree on what it is.

            As I posted before, Neither of us will change our minds. There is no need to continue this any further.

            If you want to discuss something else, we can.

      2. You are the liar, scumbag apologist for the filthiest evil dogma ever to infect this world. “Lo, I have been made victorious through TERROR” as your Perfect Man said. No doubt you agree with him?

        1. I am sure that your support and reverence for Hirsi Megan is the reason she won’t be honored by Brandeis University.

          She will be thanking you for the character reference, I am sure.

          1. NO answer to my question re your “prophet”?

            NO, thought not. As an ignorant Muslim you are a supporter of terror. The sickening truth about your ‘religion’ is being exposed, Hirsi Ali is one but there are many others. Mean while your only response is ad hominem, regular tactics for the Islamist halfwit. About time you trotted out the ‘islamophobe’ meme, isn’t it?

  3. > “Ms. Hirsi Ali and four other people would be honored at its commencement on May 18″

    You know what the honorable thing for those other four people to do would be: to refuse to attend in solidarity with Ms. Ali. Maybe someone can find out who they are and suggest it to them?

    1. Why should the rest of them side with Hirsi Megan.

      They are accomplished people in journalism, social justice and science. They have contributed TO humanity by being FOR people.
      Hirsi Megan has a very narrow audience, and is only promoting herself at the expense of other people.

      I am sure that the other 4 people have told the truth about their life story…going by their real names, their real nationalities, how long they stayed in a place…and so on.

      I don’t know how you see it, but to me if a person cant even use her real name to get asylum in Europe, I don’t think she stacks up to the rest of those honorees, and more than likely, they are happy that their honorary degree is not tarnished by Hirsi Megan’s history (whatever it really is) and the words that Brandeis found did not fit the message that represents ANY achademic setting.

      1. You said, “Why should the rest of them side with Hirsi Megan. They are accomplished people in journalism, social justice and science…”

        You just answered your own question. That’s precisely WHY they should, because they are “accomplished” in the field of journalism, social justice, and science. If such people as this aren’t willing to make a stand for human rights, then who should?

        And if she is reticent about personal details of her life, it’s most likely because she doesn’t want to have acid thrown in her face, or be stabbed, or blown up, by some crazy Islamists that can’t stand to hear the truth about their own sick ideology, you know the one I’m talking about, the one that’s murdering, torturing, and terrorizing for their god–THAT ONE.

        1. Hirsi Megan has lied about every aspect of her life to create a marketable persona to sell books CD’s and speaking engagements in order to make fame and fortune selling fear.

          Hirsi Megan’s persona is no more valid than a professional wrestler, in that it is scripted in order to sell a product, rather than to reflect a real contribution to society.

          She has accomplished nothing, and has not socially contributed to the world anything.

          Hirsi Megan’s message is AGAINST a certain group of people, in contrast to the bios of the other four recipients of the honorary degree.

          Now, if all Hirsi Megan has contributed to the world is the fear of others, how is it that she can stand next to such accomplished people who have contributed TO society, rather than trying to divide a segment of humanity from society.

          1. I haven’t studied her life enough to know if she is lying or not, but if she’s lying to fight jihad, then I still support her. All is fair in love and war.

            And I disagree, she’s not selling “fear,” she’s selling reasoned objections to demented Islam. And as far as what she has “accomplished,” every time she speaks out against evil Islam she does the world a great service, especially when you have a platform as big as hers. Go to her Wikipedia page and see how many national awards she’s won for doing “nothing.” Then compare that to your grand life. What have you done for humanity lately?

          2. Brandeis University didn’t study her life enough to know what she was all about either. People like myself, and others simply wrote letters, and gave links to the information to the people making the selections, and let them decide for themselves if Hirsi Megan was worthy of their honor.

            Oh…and if you use Wikipedia in a college paper as a reference…automatic fail. That is how credible Wikipedia is.

            Oh, and I am quite an accomplished musician. I played with the Chinese Traditional Orchestra for 25 years. I would like to believe that all of those 25 years, I and my fellow orchestra members have given humanity the beauty of music, regardless of who they are, what they look like, where they come from, or their religion,

          3. I think we can count on Wikipedia to get her awards correct. It’s not like this is anything doubtful or contentious. I think it’s pathetic that you would use that as a defense.

          4. Leah, Perhaps God made me filth, so that you would understand how valuable you are to humanity.

            Both of us are servants of the Creator being. Both of our tasks are equally noble.

          5. From what I can tell her experiences are terrible more so because of the cultural influences rather than the religious ones.

            In general, subjugation of women is misapplied to Islam when it should be applied to culture in those parts of the world where it exists. Even if you say that it occurs in places where the majority of people are Muslim, that doesn’t mean Islam itself is the cause for it. Don’t forget that women in America didn’t have their rights until relatively recently.

            Incidentally from what I know Islam doesn’t subjugate its women at all. It abolished the practice of burying daughters alive when it came and even gave women the right of inheritance. As Wikipedia says: “In general, the Qur’an improved the status of women by identifying their share of inheritance in clear terms. It also completely forbade the practice of inheriting widows.Orientalist Joseph Schacht states that “this is not meant as a regular legal ordinance, but is part of the Qur’anic endeavor to improve the position of women.”

            Bear in mind that this was 1400 years ago and is something that most women around the world did not have until the last century.

            What Hirsi speaks against is Islam as a whole and she uses the fact that she 1) was a Muslim and 2) went through many terrible things because of her religion to back up her claims.

            To argue the first point she received an Islamic education from a Saudi based institution, which is unfortunately falling prey to the stereotype of women being beneath men. My point is that she received an education on Islam from a place where it was tightly intertwined with that places culture, and that was probably not the best way to be taught her religion. As most people would agree, looking into something from multiple viewpoints and from a variety of sources yields the best, and most unbiased, results. This is something that I’d venture to guess she hasn’t done.

            The argument against the second point has already been stated, that her experiences come from cultural reasons and not religious ones.

          6. Cut the crap. “You shall behead the infidel” is in their “holy book.” You talk like a li-yer.

          7. I actually admire you telling the truth in stating that Hirsi Megan can lie all she wants, as long as it is to support your ideology.

            That is wonderful that you would admit that. I certainly have more respect for you, than if you tried to defend Hirsi Megan as a good, moral upright advocate against the oppression of women.


          9. Yes, and your kind of support for her is the reason Hirsi Megan isn’t going to be able to tarnish the good name of Brandeis University.

            Thank you for making it clear.

          10. Brandeis has tarnished their own name, you pathetic excuse of a human! They are a Jewish college, sucking up to Satanic Islam! They have SHAMED themselves!

          11. Leah, you can always write them and let them know how you feel.
            May you find beauty in all things Leah.

          12. Hay Ahmad, do you consider the term infidel and kuffar offensive to nonbeleivers? If so, then why aren’t you demanding that Muslims quit calling nonbelievers kuffars?

          13. I don’t use the word ‘kuffar’ to describe anyone. To me it is an insult, and given that I am not God, and cant know the intentions of someone, I don’t have the capacity to judge who is ‘kuffar’ and who isn’t.

            I think you give me much more power than I have. I don’t have the capacity to ‘demand that Muslims stop calling non-believers ‘kuffar.

            The word ‘infidel’ is a Christian word. Infidel is how Christians define those who aren’t of their faith. The word is not used the Mandrin translation of the Qur’an I read.

          14. This is not true. Infidels is how the Moors/ Muslims used to call the people not of their faith.

          15. no, thats not true. we call them kafir or mushriks… these are translations. and besides, IMO it doesnt matter as they are perfectly reasonable and suitable when looked at in the context that a mushrik or kafir is one that is not faithful to his creator…Allah, the Glorified and Exalted

          16. “…Hay Ahmad, do you consider the term infidel and kuffar offensive to nonbeleivers? If so, then why aren’t you demanding that Muslims quit calling nonbelievers kuffars?…”

            This is the comment I am responding to. Notice it is a personal question?

            I responded by telling the commenter that I never describe anyone as ‘kuffiar’ because I cant make a judgment as to where that person’s heart is, or what another person’s intentions are.

          17. Allah is a Pagan moon god, not real. And CERTAINLY not Almighty God.!! Allah didn’t have a son. Allah doesn’t exist and if you think you have a personal relationship with Allah, you have been deceived by Satan, your relationship is with the devil!

          18. Infidel is the word Christians use to describe everyone not of their religion.

            In the Chinese translation of the Qur’an that I am most comfortable with, the word ‘infidel’ is not used.

            in·fi·del noun ˈin-fə-dəl, -fə-ˌdel

            a person who does not believe in a religion that someone regards as the true religion

            Full Definition of INFIDEL

            1. one who is not a Christian or who opposes Christianity

            2 a : an unbeliever with respect to a particular religion
            b : one who acknowledges no religious belief

            3 : a disbeliever in something specified or understood

            Middle English infidele, from Middle French, from Late Latin infidelis unbelieving, from Latin, unfaithful, from in- + fidelis faithful — more at fidelity

            First Known Use: 15th century

            Notice the first known use of the word is

          19. No, perhaps it is the Mandrin Translation, and we don’t use the word infidel in our language.

          20. No, infidel is NOT “how Christians define those who aren’t of their faith! That is strictly the evil of Islam! Christians know we are going to spend eternity with Almighty God. Muslims are hell-bound and will spend eternity with Satan! PERIOD!!

          21. After 800 yrs of subjugation,,the Spaniards became some of the best soldiers /conquistadors in the world. The slavery & violence that had been imposed on gothic spainards led to the Slavery of africans & of First Americans in the new world. Islam is pure evil& its influence led to nothing positive in the world to make up for the atrocities it has commited on the world.

          22. …and I really wish you would stop spiking your own votes, Nur, Ahmad, nobody gets “up” votes that fast on that many posts, that soon. Trust me, your posts could have 1000 up votes, it’s not going to help the content one bit.

          23. lol you are funny, especially when all you need to do is to put your mouse over the arrow to see who is up voting a post.

          24. Exactly, and that first post of yours is NINE guest votes, and one lost soul, and that one was probably an accident. You don’t fool me one bit. Your posts aren’t worth that much in here. Even the smart ones don’t get voted up that much that fast. What did you do have all your taqiyya friends massage your posts? Yeah, you did.

          25. So, now, rather than comment on the topic, you are trying to discredit me.

            Is this how you handle the truth?

            Sure it is.

          26. I support you… No matter what the haters here are going to say hahaha

          27. Yes, we ARE haters. We hate evil. And that’s what Islam is, EVIL. The proof is all around you, just open your eyes and look.

          28. They can’t see the evil they are and the evil they worship because God has given them over to their own reprobate minds.

          29. Right. They are too evil to know what evil is. It’s like a guy that looks around to see what stinks, but is too stupid to know it’s him.

          30. It’s not that important how many votes you give yourself, I just think it’s intellectually dishonest. Don’t you have any integrity? Oh, sorry, I forgot.

          31. Muslims are taught that it’s good to lie if it furthers your cause. It’s what they do. Look at our illustrious president!

          32. The creator cherishes all of his created things Leah, and you are among the best.

          33. that is a damn lie, quote me the Hadith or the Quranic verse that says that. Can’t do it? Guess what, you’re a sell out, you’ve been indoctrinated, hope you like living with a constant hate towards people.

          34. You’re a fine one to talk about “discrediting” someone, with all your jacked-up accusations about a fine human rights activist. I would think you would be ashamed of yourself. Do you really think you can bring this great woman down with your frivolous accusations? No, you can’t, you only bring yourself down. Why do you hate humanity so?

          35. I don’t have to agree with someone to wish them happiness.

            Ms. Megan has created this situation, and she must live with it.
            I am sure she will carry on, regardless of what I think, which is how it should be for us all.

          36. What a noble sentiment. You wish her happiness, but you support Islamic tyranny over human rights. This is what religion can do to the mind, it distorts rational thinking. If you ever want to join the fight for human rights I’ll be the first to welcome you. Have a happy day. :) Hey, I’m as good as you are, and I’m an atheist! Go figure.

            And a p.s. if I did attack you personally then I regret it. It’s not a tactic I usually employ.

          37. I wish Ms. Megan happiness.
            I don’t support Ms. Megan’s assertions. I disagree with the way she expresses them, mainly because of the narrow focus of her protest.
            She has her own way, and I have my own way of expressing such distain for human rights violations, and violators.
            That is where we disagree.

          38. You said: “I don’t support Ms. Megan’s assertions on human rights issues because of the narrow focus, and it seems more that she is marketing them to benefit herself more than trying to help those she claims to care about.”

            Yes, she’s doing this for herself, I’m sure, living in hiding, and in fear of assassination. That’s so like those human rights activists, always thinking of themselves.

            And honestly, I don’t know what you mean by “narrow focus.” To me one doesn’t fight for human rights “narrowly,” because the “broadness” of the effort is defined by the quest. “Human rights” implies those rights that should underlay all moral understanding. If one is fighting for that, then even a narrowly defined argument is broad in “focus.” If you see some bonafide defects in her argument in regard the relevant issues then feel free to point them out. Else, the problem is not that SHE is narrow in focus, but that your moral understanding is narrow in focus. For the rest of us, we know she is right.

            That’s all I have time for now. Perhaps later I will get to the rest of that post.

          39. Whether I see any flaws in her argument is irrelevant. As I say, she will do what she does regardless of what I think. That is how it should be, in my opinion.

            You should not make broad assertions about me, when I am discussing a specific individual. This is my perception of Ms. Megan, and it won’t change.

            It is not up for debate.

            As I say, I wish Ms. Megan a long life and much prosperity.

          40. My support of Nur Alia binti Ahmad is never an accident. She is an honorable and rational human being, which is more than can be said for the rest of you.

          41. Wow, you appear to be hell-bound, yet very unaware of it! I won’t pray for you because you apparently hate all that is good about America!

          42. Ayaan is the one telling the truth! Ayaan is a brilliant and brave woman who has lived through hell on earth! You however are something far different than that!

          43. Our creator made us perfect, or actions make us flawed.

            Those who don’t fear our imperfections show we are not slaves of appeasement.

          44. Perhaps you should go live in Iran, Pakistan or one of the other backward Moslem dominated countries. Then YOU can come back and tell us what it’s really like.

          45. Why? I live in a peaceful place. We don’t need assault rifles to protect against our neighbors. Pakistan is America’s hellhole

          1. No, but clearly you have problems “mentally.” I really wish you’d see the side of reason and human rights. It concerns me because I truly think that you believe you’re making sense. How many more “moderates” like you are out there, who are so brainwashed they can’t be reached? I see people like you as dangerous to decent humanity. You put that hateful and bigoted religion before human rights, and I think that’s worthy of condemnation.

          2. Why don’t you for once, try not to attack me personally, and actually comment on the posts I make.

            If I am wrong about Hirsi Megan, you can certainly show me links to change my mind about her personal experience with Islam.

            I am only going by what she admitted…she lied. She has no moral ground when her whole persona is created to market herself as a spokesperson for women’s rights, while disparaging 1 fifth of the world’s population.

          3. any girl born & raised in muslem nation has had personal experiences which seem same everywhere. you a new believer?

          4. I was born in Indonesia, and when a small girl went to the place where my legacy begins (Gansu, Ningxia HAR, China), and lived there until married. Lived in the US until retired. I settled in Malaysia.

            I have been Muslim all of my life. My work has taken me around the world, and I have seen the many interpretations of Islam.

            I however, still use the interpretation and etiquette of Islam of my family.

          5. From my years living in the PRC I would say your experience of Islam is very limited. Allow the woman her story. Her film’s producer was murdered. Maybe if you were her you’d be more a believer. Try Islam in the Middle East.

      2. Really, speaking off the top your head makes for a very lame comment, especially when your aim is to denigrate another. You are reaching.

        1. I cant denigrate Hirsi Megan by pointing out the lies she has told in order to make herself famous.

          It is shameful that one would make up a story in order to market herself the way Hirsi Megan has done.

  4. Statement from Brandeis University

    April 8, 2014

    Following a discussion today between President Frederick Lawrence and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ms. Hirsi Ali’s name has been withdrawn as an honorary degree recipient at this year’s commencement. She is a compelling public figure and advocate for women’s rights, and we respect and appreciate her work to protect and defend the rights of women and girls throughout the world. That said, we cannot overlook certain of her past statements that are inconsistent with Brandeis University’s core values. For all concerned, we regret that we were not aware of these statements earlier.

    Commencement is about celebrating and honoring our extraordinary students and their accomplishments, and we are committed to providing an atmosphere that allows our community’s focus to be squarely on our students. In the spirit of free expression that has defined Brandeis University throughout its history, Ms. Hirsi Ali is welcome to join us on campus in the future to engage in a dialogue about these important issues.

    Convicted by her own words.
    I certainly hope that Pamela will not go on one of her ‘brown shirt tirades’, and accuse Brandeis of not giving Hirsi Megan something she didn’t earn or deserve, or that Pamela will not try to define what the standards of Brandeis University should be in taking away Megan’s unearned degree.

    1. Quite simple self-contradiction, yes! Western universities are putatively devoted to the elucidation and dissemination of knowledge and truth. Ms. Hirsi has exemplified those values in opposing an ideology that has shown itself to be implacably opposed to them.

      1. Except that she marketed herself as a critic of Islam though life experience, and all of the things she claimed happened to her turned out to be lies.

        She is the wrong person to have empathy for. When you lie your way into ‘death threats’ and ‘persecution’…you deserve what you get in my opinion. Of course, if this isn’t a lie too.

        1. What’s the problem w/being a “critic of Islam” musl0nazi? Or do you have a problem w/the concept of freedom of speech?

  5. Wow, a Jewish founded nonsectarian university supports Islam. The Jews are truly their own worst enemies.

    1. Hardly supporting Islam… it’s keeping their own respect to abstain from honouring someone that regularly preachers hate and slanders in every other sentence.

      1. IF you had the least idea about Islam, you too would be a hater.
        Sometimes hate is justified and Islam fits that bill- educate yourself.

      2. LOL, what a load of bullshit. All the holey books of pisslam feature rabid Jew hatred. It’s dogma in pisslam.

      3. Some ideologies should be hated. Such as the ones that say they, and they only, deserve the world and it is their job to cleanse it of infidels. Yes, such toxic, totalitarian ideologies are an existential threat to Western Civilization. Besides, why should I tolerate someone who’s sole desire is to decapitate me?

  6. Obviously the GOP “war on women?” Can’t blame the intolerant totalitarians in islam for their savage behavior! Expect our racist DOJ to soon demand the expulsion of Hirsi Ali from the USA!

    Where is the NOW (nag gang) when they are needed? Aiding and abetting the world’s foremost enemies of women!

    1. Hirsi Megan created a sellable persona in order to market fear. Her persona is no more valid than that of a professional wrestler…except that the wrestler wipes the make-up off and lives a real life when he or she is not in front of the camera.

      Hirsi Megan, just like the rest of those who market fear and bigotry have to be on all the time, because always in the back of their minds, they have to ask when the lies are going to catch them.

      Hirsi Megan’s lies caught up to her in this case, and now that the word is out in the educated community, she is almost toast. She will be relegated to the snake handler, faith healing crowd soon, asking for donations on TBN…simple as that.

      1. If Aayan Hirsi went back to her native Somalia your fellow muslime apes would kill her in a heartbeat. Her death fatwah speaks louder than your lies.

  7. Islamist Leftist Totalitarian Machine?…. Attempting to figure out what that means leaves my head spinning. Those are all such broad categories. Definitely by putting big and dangerous sounding words together someone is trying to increase their audience size for profit.

    And slandering another persons faith and dehumanizing them in the process is not commendable. I know I’m gonna get attacked for this… go for it. I’m just sick of being told by you that Islam is out to get us when you are in fact out to get Islam.

    I’m a Catholic and all my “christian” friends abandoned me when I needed it most. I had to meet people in a mosque who gave me the necessary love to leave. Those friends are my family now. That’s how much they’ve done for me. Reading posts like this upset me and make me cry. I will never give in to your hate mongering ways and pray to God that you will come to the conclusion that you are judging too quickly.

    Find a mosque near you, and ask to join for iftar during Ramadan. It’s always open to anyone who so chooses. That is in fact how I started to reflect my views and change them.

    Learn to check your objectivism and realize that reality is more complicated than you think.


    Catholic in a Muslim family

    1. Of course there are good Muslims, just like there were good Nazis, I’m sure. They loved their families, they gave to the poor, helped their neighbors, but they were part of a nation that started a world war and genocidal murder of millions of Jews and others. When the world rallied against this evil, few had moral compunctions when it came to bombing the hell out of Germany, even though there were undoubtedly a huge number of Germans that were only “moderately” for the party, or even totally opposed. The best the world could do was to deal with them en masse to overcome the evils of Nazism.

      My opinion is that Islam needs to be seen the same way as Nazi Germany. Not all Muslims kill and terrorize, true, but they are as connected to Islam’s
      evil doctrines and actions as were the German citizens of WWII to the
      Nazis, perhaps even more so, since Islam’s genocidal doctrine is
      universally known to all Muslims, whereas many Germans were blindsided
      by the full extent of Nazism’s unspeakable barbarity and war plans. So
      for me, all Muslims are guilty to a certain extant by their own bad
      association. I bet if I marched with some neo-Nazis as a “moderate,”
      you’d still find me no less repugnant to human decency. So it goes for

      So, even though I respect your heartfelt defense of the people you care about, I do think you are sounding just a bit disingenuous in your criticism of us “Islamophobes.”

      1. If it were true that Islam had a “genocidal doctrine” that is “universally known to all Muslims” then they would’ve have conquered the world by now, seeing as they have had 1400 years to do so and that they make up about 25% of the worlds population. The Nazis tried to do it less than a hundred years ago and they were practically wiped out. Seeing as there are still so many Muslims around today and that they haven’t been wiped out yet, most of them obviously haven’t done anything nearly as terrible as the Nazis.

        1. Ah, how true! Except for that one fatal flaw in Islam called dogmatism: they hate each other even more than they hate the infidel. Seventy odd sects (and boy are they odd!) all at inveterate jihad with one another, destined one day to wipe themselves right off the face of the planet. God truly is great!

        2. Just because Islam WANTS to be genocidal is no guarantee of success. Their mission of genocide started in the 7th century and has never really ceased. Oh, sure, there were some breathers in there, but the original divine mandate still stands, as expressed in that demon-allah’s immutable word, the quran.

        3. Bukhari:V4B52N177
          “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You Muslims will fight the Jews till some of them hide behind stones. The stones will betray them saying, “O Abdullah (slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”‘”

          “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”‘”

          In Sahih Muslim: Book 041, Number 6985:
          Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

          FOAD lying musloid ape.

          1. Since when has any Muslim population conducted a holocaust upon the Jewish people as bad as the one conducted by the Nazis?

            Lets take this step by step. The Hadith that you are quoting is the same one from 3 different sources. It prophesizes that the end of the world won’t come until Muslims kill off all the Jews.

            Now lets take a look at the past. As Wikipedia has to say:

            “In the Iberian Peninsula, under Muslim rule, Jews were able to make great advances in mathematics, astronomy, philosophy, chemistry and philology. This era is sometimes referred to as the Golden age of Jewish culture in the Iberian Peninsula.

            Traditionally Jews living in Muslim lands, known (along with Christians) as dhimmis, were allowed to practice their religion and to administer their internal affairs but subject to certain conditions. They had to pay the jizya (a per capita tax imposed on free, adult non-Muslim males) to the Muslim government but were exempted from paying the zakat (a tax imposed on free, adult Muslim males). Jews rarely faced martyrdom or exile, or forced compulsion to change their religion, and they were mostly free in their choice of residence and profession.”

            How can this be? Weren’t Muslims supposed to kill all the Jews? Then why did they live in peace with them?

            Yes it has been prophesized by those Hadith you quoted that according to Muhammad the Muslims and Jews will eventually fight and the Muslims will kill them all. However history shows us that Muslims aren’t rushing to make this happen, otherwise the Jews would never have been allowed to live in Muslim lands.

            It’s an accepted fact that major religions only view their members as being the right ones and the ones that will get into heaven. That doesn’t mean however that they resent and kill everyone who doesn’t agree with them. Pick a random Muslim from among the billions in the world. Ask them if they think they are right and everyone else is wrong. Chances are they’ll say yes. Ask them if they want to take a sword and kill everyone who doesn’t agree with them. Chances are they’ll say no. Same with any member of any other faith.

            Heres the Wikipedia article, it has footnotes and citation in it btw:

      2. Nazi Germany has nothing to do with Islam. All the revolts supported by Nazis in the Mid-East during the War were political and viewed exclusively from a military strategic value.

        Using the slippery slope logic you have just professed, all Christians should be collectively punished for white supremacist violence in the 90s. All Israelis, even the ones actively opposing any further expansion of the Israeli state, should be punished for the crimes of that state against Palestine. And all Americans should be punished for National Security States established in Latin America during the 1960s and 1970s. It looks at things from a blanket perspective, takes one point of view and applies it to all and is a very easy way to bring a Nazi Germany like state about.

        I agree with Thinker, Islam has been around for thousands of years and coexisted with other faiths for milennia, that are both Peoples of the Book and not.

        Thank you for respecting the fact that there are people who I truly love within the Islamic faith. That is something that others who have commented haven’t (or refused to) acknowledge. However it is not disingenuous. You do not know me. You do not know what is in my heart or mind. That is an accusation to do when one is in face to face discussion, not via these forums.

        When you go out and tell me that those I care about are Nazis because of their faith that is exactly what I described, dehumanizing and hurtful and in the process dehumanizing to you as well (Check out Paulo Freire if you haven’t already).

        I still think you should visit an imam or a mosque and try and put your ideas to a test.

        1. You said: “Nazi Germany has nothing to do with Islam. All
          the revolts supported by Nazis in the Mid-East during the War were political and viewed exclusively from a military strategic value.”

          Islam has a great deal to do with Nazism, as an historical
          fact they are both linked; Nazism was totalitarian and genocidal, as has been Islam from its earliest days.

          You said: “Using the slippery slope logic you have just
          professed, all Christians should be collectively punished for white supremacist violence in the 90s.”

          Okay, first, there’s nothing “slippery slope” about what I
          said. Had you said my “analogy” was inadequate
          I might have listened. As it is you are misapplying a logical fallacy. And as far as Christians being punished for white
          supremacy, that does not apply. I didn’t hear them defend their violence in the name of Jesus, nor is their doctrine
          based on Christ’s love of neighbor and god. You were way off with that one.

          You said: “All Israelis, even the ones actively opposing any
          further expansion of the Israeli state, should be punished for the crimes ofthat state against Palestine. And all Americans should be punished for National Security States established in Latin America during the 1960s and 1970s. It
          looks at things from a blanket perspective, takes one point of view and applies it to all and is a very easy way to bring a Nazi Germany like state about.”

          It’s a sad fact of nationhood that its citizens must often
          suffer the consequences of their leader’s bad choices, and that includes Israel and the US. Sometimes folks get what
          they deserve and sometimes they don’t, I can’t change that. That doesn’t mean that I’m about to turn a blind eye to the evils of Islam because of any past mistakes our nation may have made. I don’t say to myself, “America has made some errors in judgment so I have no choice, I have to ignore the evils Islam preaches and does.” I might agree with “atonement” for our past mistakes, but never “appeasement,” not when it comes to evil Islam.

          You said: ”I agree with Thinker, Islam has been around for
          thousands of years and coexisted with other faiths for milennia, that are both Peoples of the Book and not.”

          Yes, it has coexisted with other faiths, but in the same way
          we humans have coexisted with rats and lice.

          The rest of your post is just sap.

          1. why does any of this even matter when one reflectson your moral sensibilities? i mean to write an edda like this…as if you’re an upright individual whose opinion is worthy of merit…

            i mean if lying, cheating, etc., are ok when justify certain ends (the ones you support) than what intellectual weight do your comments carry? honestly though, just a few comments ago you say it doesnt matter if she lied because shes fighting islam…so really what kind of perspective do you have?

            beyond any of that. if i were to elucidate for you TRULY something of what your talking about. you would be forced down the ‘slippery slope’ of conspiracy theories and a revised view of history…one which im sure wont work when you have an agenda…

          2. First, I don’t think she is lying, I was only being impeccably honest in saying that since I haven’t studied her life I can’t say with complete certainty she hasn’t lied. But every time I’ve heard her speak on You tube she sounds intelligent,
            honest, and well-versed in the evils of Islam. I think if she were a serious fraud she would not have been granted so many awards for her human rights work. You don’t think these people did a little checking before they bestowed these honors on her? The only reason Brandeis backed down was because they pulled a dhimmi and starting to whimper and whine with fear.

            The rest of your post didn’t make sense to me. But it’s clear, in that last paragraph you are simply trying to obfuscate with a bogus accusation. I’m not trying to create a “revised view of history,” nor am I on any slippery slope of “conspiracy theories.” I was simply drawing an analogy between two violent, totalitarian ideologies. There’s nothing “slippery” about it. It’s clear as a bell to those with good morals.

          3. of course it didnt make sense to you… i should have figured, im sorry. i see that went wayyyyy over your head. let me break it down…or try again at least…heres the second bit a little plainer…

            since ur talkin about a Nazi/islam connection, IF i were to attempt to clarify certain things for you, and were you to accept ANY of what id be telling you- you would then inevitably be forced to re-asses your current world view and your belief in the veracity of past historical events…this of course doesn’t sit with someone who clearly benefits from a faulty view of history.

            hope thats a little better…

            because you dont understand something dont jump to accusations and defense mechanisms…sharpen your acumen instead. its far more fulfilling.

          4. I read that post of yours 3 times and I still don’t get it. It looks like typical taqiyya b.s. to me.

          5. I cant help you then man…maybe try adderall or ritalin, isnt that what folks in the west give their kids when they’re kids are outta control and have attention issues in the US right?

            maybe they got something even better for you by now…i dunno man,just try. check with your doctor, im sure they got something.

          6. At first I was irked at you, now I’m starting to feel bad. Sorry if I offended you, and please, don’t be so mad that you want to kill someone. I have to remember that if you are a Muslim you might be seriously mentally ill. So please, if you have an urge to rape or kill, go to a doctor or clinic. And I’m not joking.

          7. really I just ask that you take into account how many times you’ve said something violent…violence since your reply to my 1st post, and pervasive throughout most your other posts. it what’s on your mind apparently.
            i was going to tell you that you were unoriginal and kind of continue this back and forth until quitting time. but now i really see its unhealthy to stoke the fires of an unhealthy mind, and i ask Allah for his forgiveness if i was excessively unkind to you, while trying to do you well by sharing knowledge through sincere (though spiced) discourse.

            i see sincerity is beyond you and that you are a legitimately troubled individual. therefore,i wont give you any advice you’re not likely to follow.

            i only hope that you find peace.

          8. I’m an atheist, I’ve already found “peace” in reasoned thought. I don’t torment myself like you crazy Muslims do by praying 5 times a day, and then getting frustrated because you can’t live up to your self imposed standards of spirituality. All that praying has done little to improve their morals or attain wisdom, they rape, beat women, abuse children, war and terrorize for jihad, execute their own family members for “honor,” and all under Islamic tutelage. I mean, it’s not like it’s considered “wrong” to do these things, Islam condones it. And in regard to jihad, it’s a religious command to force Islamic submission on the non-Muslim world.

            So when you tell me I am a “troubled” individual, then you are correct. I am troubled that you can’t see my point of view, and of the millions that agree with me. Islam is evil to the core, and that evil is manifesting every day around the world. If you are a “moderate” member of that club, then you are moderately in support of bigotry, violence, and murder, in the name of god.

            …and brother, to me that’s the worst kind of sin.

          9. Man, i wish you would stop saying Dhimmi when you seem to be clueless really as to what that is…and again, your point of view is solely based on the presentation not the veracity of the content…

            alot of people have BS honors BTW… just in case that impresses you, its called connections.


          10. The term has broadened for us freedom fighters to mean any blithering idiot that cowers to Islam’s evil agenda. Now brush your teeth and get to bed, it’s late.

          11. ZIonists now consider themelves freedom fighters. oh man. that one IS new…

            I can just imagine a skinny internet-nerd armed with slick responses on the battlefield… you’re gonna be just fine

          12. Well, I guess we’re all fighting for something, aren’t we. My side is fighting for human rights and democracy, and your side is fighting for a demonic, egotistically driven god. I think in this fight against evil Islam I can safely describe myself a “freedom fighter.” Perhaps for you the issue is too morally cloudy to grasp. If you are a Muslim, then I can see why.

          13. whatever you gotta tell yourself.
            but thanks im having a hoot right now…im just visualizing a skinny internet-nerd warrior waving the ‘flag of freedom’ and democrazy over the backdrop of a nation of hedonists as his army, spouting out non-sense about how they have the moral high-ground…. yawn after that one i think i might get to bed…Powerful stuff Tricky…Powerful stuff.

          14. The rest of my post was an attempt to be human. The rest of my post was an attempt to be polite to you. But apparently my ideas make that irrelevant. It’s sad when someones worldview blinds them to other people… Yes, looking at you.

            White supremacists in the U.S.and throughout the world have defended themselves through the Bible and other Christian texts for centuries. That includes McVeigh, the Aryan Nation, Aryan Brotherhood and other groups. Check out the Southern Poverty Law Center for more info.

            No…Islam and Nazism are not linked as a historical fact. I’d say sorry to burst your bubble there but I’m not. There is no documentation beyond the military operations I previously mentioned such as the Iraq revolt and the Egyptian Theater of war. Those were contacts that were made in order to create problems for the Allies not to propagate Islam. I can tell you that I have had muslims in my house and in theirs and have not once been subject to some sort of genocidal frenzy or tirade.

            And an analogy does not preclude it from being a logical fallacy by grace of it being an analogy. Sorry, gotta come up with a better defense there.

            So when America kills millions it’s an error and when islam kills someone it’s genocide and evil? Don’t tell me that’s not what you’re saying cause it so is, even if subconsciously. Nice rhetorical trick… Not gonna fall for it.

            Despite your lack of appreciation for “sap,” something those of us who live in the real world like to call humanity, I would treat you like a brother in the street.

            Once again, do actually visit a mosque and do partake in an iftar. Open your heart a little.

            You are clearly just following the lies you are being told unabashedly and without a critical eye. If you wish to know my experiences I encourage you to ask. Learn why I have become so open to this faith you so violently insult.

            Otherwise, I will not be responding to you anymore. You are far too threatened by this conversation it appears although all I wish to do is help you.

            Brother I wish you the best in life and will pray that you will learn to open your eyes and reflect upon your ideas and actions.

            Peace and love

    2. So you swapped one delusion for another. Of which you have zero knowledge apparently. Islam’s purpose is World domination, by force or terror as necessary. Have you not read the Koran? Do you not observe online Imams spouting Jew hatred, Kuffar hatred and every other hatred?

      Ask for some videos of Islam’s works and I’ll supply stuff that will turn your stomach- Muslims playing football with severed heads, beheading a 10 year old, chopping off limbs for theft, would you like more??

      1. He’s like most dhimmis, he sees what he wants to see. The truth plays little part in their delusional way of thinking.

        1. I live in the U.S. Ain’t no dhimmi. There are more truths than you know my friend. More truths than you know. Yours is not the only one.

          1. No, you’re not a dhimmi, you’re a parasite, living off the freedoms and traditional goodwill which your diabolical “faith” seeks to subvert and destroy. Your own equivocating intro (above) perfectly exemplifies the insidious tactics of Islamic taqiyyah.

          2. You need psychocological help. I’m not even going to try and engage in discussion with you. I’m serious, go find one. That is for your sake.

            Peace and blessings

      2. Lol you make it sound like only Muslims do those horrible things. I’m sure there are plenty of people in this world that do stuff like that and would say that they are a Christian, or Jew, or whatever.

        Also you aren’t citing any sources for the facts you present which makes the invalid. Where in their religion does it tell them to dominate the world? You say you’ve seen online imams but obviously you’ve never had a nice long chat with one about Islam. Take your own advice and go learn about Islam before you say stuff about it. Obviously this Catholic knows what their talking about, they’ve been to a mosque, attended religious functions, and know more than you do.

        1. Get real, pal! Or at least get educated: no need to go beyond the founder himself to realize just how bloody and monstrously ugly this creed of death really is. Mahomet himself personally murdered thousands of innocents, plundered hundreds more thousands and enslaved millions. So, yes: ONLY MUSLIMS DO IT IN IMITATION OF THEIR HIDEOUS FOUNDER!

          1. Your response clearly shows all of us how uneducated and ignorant you are on this subject, seeing as you haven’t provided any sources for you claim and by the fact that you cant spell Muhammad. It also shows us your tendency to ignore the content of the post of the person you are replying to.

          2. Are you denying that your so-called Prophet spent twenty futile years trying to persuade people to convert to his rather dowdy, derivative and uninspired “message” before resorting to forcible conversions? It’s standard history, pal. Look it up between salaat sessions.

          3. Show me proof, cause I can’t find it.

            If the Muslims goals were to forcibly convert others to Islam then Europe would be a Muslim continent seeing how far and how much the Islamic empire spread over there within hundreds of years after the death of Muhammad.


            Islam in general shows a great tolerance towards people of other faiths and it has only been in recent years that persecution of other religions in primarily Muslim countries has happened. As it is most Muslims wouldn’t mind living side by side with non-Muslims. Forced conversions only happen by extremists or ignorant bigots (of whom there are many of in every religion and faith).

      1. I do. I also read books. I’ve read the Quran. I’ve read the bible. I’ve met good Christians I’ve met good muslims. And whenever I need help… I have my Muslim family. Dan, even with that attempt at an insult, I encourage you to go to a mosque and don’t judge. Just sit there (and respect its rules as I ask my Muslim friends when they visit a religious establishment of my faith) and see. You will find friendliness and you will find a diversity of opinion on faith which appears to have escaped you.

        I was once of your view. But life has helped to change that for me. I’m glad and I hope you will be too. Just put yourself in a position to reflect.

      1. Taqqiya is a juridical declaration… Not propaganda. I’m just educated and experienced in the subject matter.

        Please do speak to an Imam or visit a Mosque in a respectful way. You believe this in such a heartfelt manner, see if your perspective is borne out by evidence.

        1. I’ve been studying Islam and religion for many years – formally in university and continually as a concerned citizen. I’ve taught at an Islamic secondary school. I am an authority on Islam.

          1. So then how can you support this? And what were you teaching at the Madrassa? What juridical school does (did) it belong to? How are you an authority on Islam? What other concrete credentials can you point to? Yes I am challenging you claim to being an “authority.” I don’t know who you are. Back up your claim and self-proclamation.

          2. … crickets… All Muslims back down when confronted with facts about the evil Qu’ran

          3. @mid_century_modern:disqus im no Alim or Mufti…but go ahead and hit me dogz.
            and way to change the subject about your credentials and BS story… typical…
            I tell you what, I see you trying to snake out so ill just drop it, as it feels good to be kind.
            now,i’m waiting…facts?

          4. Hmmmm A) I’m not Muslim… B) you haven’t exactly answered any of my questions.

          5. What do you want to know? Let’s start with some text in the Hadiths. I can cut and paste many things to back up my claim. I have many resources.

          6. What have you published? Also, tell me about these personal experiences you have had with Islam.

          7. While teaching at an Islamic school I witnessed extreme indoctrination involving anti-Western/democratic hatred. I also witnessed classes where students were taught to hate Israel and Jews. But this is normal in Islam. It’s all in the Qu’ran. Shall I post some of these tidbits for you?

          8. Where was this school? What exactly made this doctrine anti-western? Name of the school if it’s not too much to ask…Also what was it that brought you there?

          9. Listen Mohamed or whatever your name is (you are most certainly not a Catholic), do you actually expect me to name the school that I taught at? You Muslims make me laugh – dumbasses.

          10. Believe me I am….Crescia-me numa família portuguesa e igreja portuguesa… First Communion 1995 Confirmation 2004…. I don’t expect you to. Cause your story is completely made up. You’ve proven that with your repeated evasion of my questions. You are as credible a source on Islam as you are on hairstyles…assuming that guy in the photo is you.

            I’m done with you… Fun while it lasted but now it’s just sad how you guys live in your own bubble.

            So once again. Go out to a mosque. Join for an iftar and actually see that they are people like anyone else.

            Peace and blessings

    3. You my sad deluded friend, are JUST the kind of disturbed confused lonely person these filth prey on, why do i say that, easy, this happened in England 3 years ago, another simple disturbed young man converted and was taken in by them, they repayed his trust by strapping a bomb to him and sent him into a crowded restaurant where he tried to blow himself up.

      1. A) Citation… B) Islam, like christianity is not monolithic (this is a mantra I shall repeat over and over). C) I have not converted nor will I ever and they respect that. D) Do not take pity on me calling me a “sad, deluded friend” or “confused lonely person.” I am neither. I wouldn’t be on here having these discussions on a place where I know I would be attacked if either were the case.

        1. The case for the prosecution rests.

          Just LOOK and read about the world around you, if in doubt, listen to Dr Wafa Sultan
          You Tube:- Wafa Sultan-Palm Beach Florida
          or Sister Hatoun – The Muslim persecution of Christians.
          or Ann Barnhardt – Koran

          1. I read about it everyday. At work… I’ll check out the videos… Without even seeing them I know I will find someone able to counter.

          2. OOOOOO yes I know that lady… She’s the one that went onto Al-Jazeera a number of years back and she’s from Lebanon right? Lean talks about her in his book.

          3. really, i didn’t even bother storing her nonsense story in the memory banks. so im sorry, i cant confirm.

            but what i can say is that it wont stop zionists using her as ammunition against Muslims. evidence for such is above, lol… and there are a handful of others and always have been that the media machine grabs up and lets lie on camera, when they need it… so its really like whatever throwing names and youtube vids back and forth- its just to get one caught up in the BS… just gotta see past it, what i say is if you saw something compelling, truly compelling, then you should be able to share it with me directly, not tell me ‘go check out X,Y and Z on youtube’.

            if one were to be convinced, it by the fact that they are witnessing an ‘arab fighting on my team’? or by the strength of their arguments? if you side with someone because of the latter you should be able to bring it, as reason stands with you… if you side with someone because of the prior, then I understand you’re on the side opting for sensationalism over reason. and in that case well, i understand not being able to argue but just cite propaganda


    4. What ARE you talking about? Are you STILL a Catholic? “Leave?” Leave what? The Church? That makes you a FORMER Catholic, not a Catholic. Like most Muslims you ought to make sense, not war!

      1. First off I am still a Catholic. I meant leave my incredibly hard life situation at the time.

        The only thing nonsensical about this conversation is why people who know nothing about this topic beyond this echo chamber of islamophobic discourse insist on pretending you know something about it.

        I will pray for you in my church and ask my family to pray for you at mosque.

        Peace and blessings

  8. In my view, this brave woman tells the truth, and people better start listening to her.

    If ordinary people in the west, those ignorant timorous disarmed voters, don’t stop thinking that to resist the predations of Islam in our western societies is the same as religious persecution, then the west is lost. Muslims are NOT victims any more than nazis were.

    Just open your eyes and see what’s going on In Syria where Christians are being driven from their homes in the hundreds of thousands or even murdered because the Muslim terrorists don’t fear any retribution from a west which has abandoned it’s Christian faith, or at least it’s willingness to go against the leftist agenda of surrender and submit.

    If Islam can be repackaged not as a religion but as a political set of beliefs as dangerous and totally unacceptable as Nazism was then we might start to make progress. For this to work people have to get out and challenge Muslims, their excusers wherever they’re found, and our politicians who run interference for them.

    Read up their history, research their methods, see with a clear eye how islamification is progressed in YOUR town/school and call them on it, when you get accused of hate speech or islamophobia just ask them would they criticise a Jew for speaking out about the evils of Nazism ? Blame them directly for the evils they’re all guilty of, heavens above, we know what they are, hit em hard.

    You Tube:- How Islam is taking over the world, Islamification explained.
    Swiss member of Parliament on Islam Oskar Freysinger.
    Why we are afraid of Islam by Dr Bill Warner.
    Sharia – Necessity and Obligation.

    www’ Robert Spencer interviews Nicolai Sennels. 2/April/2012.

  9. Wow, this Gellar lady can really flap her gums, would absolutely hate to be married to this woman, yap yap yap yap yap…jeebus stfu…ah just checked divorced….ufff,burn now shes menopausal w/ a grudge. lol… Keep holding it down Nur! Further evidence of how easily truth overcomes falsehood and vain desires…just one Muslim lady, against (just dont be to call a spade a spade) Kafirs- Alhamdulillah.

        1. Yeah, you’re right, we are obsessed with violence; 22,000 acts of terror since 9/11, and I admit, we are just so damned obsessed with getting blown up. What has gotten into us crazy islamophobes, anyway?

    1. Note that she allows you to insult her on her own site: would you – or any Muslim – return the courtesy? (Hint: she knows that your crudeness only confirms her brief against the excesses of Islam.)

      1. Man, I got you way beat on that…anyone that knows me personally will tell you even before all this BS ive long been a proponent of a open back and forth….EVEN before becoming Muslim…now even more so.

        and please im sure you’ve heard Gellar talk, so lets not talk about crude.

        you know what…im gonna buy a domain and ill give you the name (on this thread when i manage the funds) so you can come and check for yourselves…all of the comments posted by Gellar’s supporters here speak for themselves…there would be no reason to ban them or delete them when they would only assist my cause…

        as for others allowing her the same courtesy…i dunno…cant speak for them. but i CAN tell you that discourse between learned ppl of the faiths has never stopped. so ,checkmate…

        sorry been lookin to fit that one…oh and i wouldnt be surprised to see these get removed at somepoint, thats just life…


        1. You Muslims never deal in facts, you just blab, blab, blab,
          but you never say anything good and true. Explain to us
          “Islamophobes” why we shouldn’t think the worst about Islam, with all the jihadi terrorism in the world? 22,000 Islamic acts of terror since 9/11. And this in addition to the honor killings,
          sexual mutilation of young girls, child marriages (rape), threats (cartoon anyone?), misogyny, assaults on free speech via intimidation, and the trail of evidence leads right back to the quran, the hadith, and Imam preaching. I mean, c’mon, at least talk to us with an ounce of decency and truth. Get back to us when you figure it out.

          1. listen, dont ask me for decency..its clear you have none and no amount of the surplus in my possession given to you will cap that chasm…

            now I will ask you simply to invert the microscope. and tell me; 9/11… is there closure on that? cuz as far as i knew many opinions floating about there…

            22k acts of terror…numbers coming from a government(s) and institutions trying to justify its domestic and international policy while it murders millions.

            sexual mutilation…man i dont really wanna get into it cause i dont want to disrespect any women, all ill say is take a real close look at american culture…

            child marriages…happens in all tribal cultures, has nothing to do with Islam. but if you want to talk about rape…there are countries where the consensual age is 16, so i dont think u as a westerner has a problem with minors having sex, dont conflate that with rape (which Islam advocates against). especially if your living in the states, most people i know lose their virginity at 15-16 stop trying to have ur cake and eat it too,(at our expense).

            none of those issues lead me to Quran and Hadith(unless im looking for a viable solution) i see these issues present in all cultures in fact to a great degree more so in the one im assuming u come from…

            really all of your complaints against Islam,just leads me to analyze human nature and question why people are so belligerent, and in constant search for a scapegoat/culprit for their belligerence…u being a prime example.

        2. You Muslims never deal in facts, you just blab, blab, blab, but
          you never say anything good and true. Explain to us “Islamophobes” why we shouldn’t think the worst about Islam, with all the jihadi terrorism in the world? 22,000 Islamic acts of terror since 9/11. And this in addition to the honor killings, sexual mutilation of young girls, child marriages (rape), threats (cartoon anyone?), misogyny, assaults on free speech via intimidation, and the trail of evidence leads right back to the Quran, the Hadith, and Imam preaching. I mean, c’mon, at least talk to us with an ounce of decency and truth. Get back to us when you figure it out.

  10. u do realize that female genital mutilation is a cultural thing and has nothing to do with islam…so is forcing into marriage…i’m a muslim woman who was born and raised in the middle east with muslim values ….was never subjected to genital mutilation as a baby …and definitely not forced into marriage… now living in the west…i am still living as a practicing muslim..with all the freedoms my religion has to offer…Ms. Ali needs to clearly learn more about the religion she hates so much and not cloud it with cultural traditions of the society she was raised in.

    1. So, as a self confessed “practicing” Muslim, I regard you as a potential or actual terrorist bent on the subjugation of those non Muslims around you.

      There are a very long list of atrocities committed by Muslims in the name of their “religion”, start condemning all of them, speak out about them all publicly, refuse to be “worth half of a man” to all Imams you meet.

      Start on here now.

      1. There are huge lists of atrocities committed by people of all groups in the name of their religion and or group. If you think that all Muslims should be condemned based on the actions of a few then, to quote Catholic in a Muslim Family,:

        “Using the slippery slope logic you have just professed, all Christians should be collectively punished for white supremacist violence in the 90s. All Israelis, even the ones actively opposing any further expansion of the Israeli state, should be punished for the crimes of that state against Palestine. And all Americans should be punished for National Security States established in Latin America during the 1960s and 1970s.”

        A few individuals should never be used to represent the group they belong to. Their are good and bad people in every religion and group. Until you can understand that your arguments hold no meaning and can only be considered ignorant hate speech.

        1. All muslime states persecute people of other faiths dirtbag, that’s not the actions of a “few” scuzzlums.

    2. Learn more about it? She was steeped in it from birth, you fool! (BTW if Islam is so wonderful why did you elect to vacate its “freedoms” in favor of the West? You’re not just a fool, you’re a hypocrite as well.)

      1. Did you not read the comment properly? She wasn’t steeped in her religion from birth, she was steeped in a cultural tradition. Otherwise genital mutilation would actually be a thing in Islam (which it isn’t). And tshak said that they’re “living in the west with all of the freedoms their religion has to offer”. They didn’t vacate their freedoms at all! Read and think before you post man.

        1. Maybe you ought to think of going to university yourself, “man.” You might learn thereby that you are practicing a logical fallacy called “begging the question.”

          1. @An Average Guy, Othotox is just too smart for you once you say ‘man’… you gotta understand, noble peace prize laureates like Orthotox dont communicate like that…lol…cant be so,’crude’…
            we should just call eachother ‘fools’ and ‘parasites’ if we dont share your sensibilities right?

  11. Let us take solace in the fact that Brandeis was originally slated to be named after Einstein, who declined the “honor.” Think of the present tarnish on that great mind’s legacy which that would have eventuated!

  12. Brandeis’ decision had nothing to do with “Muslim Thugs”. Their decision came solely from the fact that many Brandeis students felt uncomfortable having someone who preaches hate against a group which many students are a part of on campus. If even one student feels uncomfortable honoring someone at their own graduation then Brandeis has a responsibility to make sure that that issue is taken care of.

    I also don’t understand why you’re mentioning Al-Quds University in this way either… Brandeis and the STUDENTS were very upset about the demonstration that took place and suspended our partnership until they were able to discuss the matter. Brandeis does not support one group over the other, Brandeis does not accept hate speech from ANYONE. It does however look like you enjoy hating. Please continue to hate and we’ll move on by honoring those who don’t.

    1. You’re confusing “hate” with truth. Just because the truth hurts, doesn’t mean it’s hate.

  13. She has more than earned the right to be critical of islam, ( No that it must be earned). Anyone with two eyes, two ears and half a brain cell can see islam for what it is.

  14. Ms. Ali, it’s just not worth it to have an open dialog with close minded people. Don’t throw your pearls before swine. Until they open their eyes to the Truth they’re just not worth it.

  15. In the U.S. is 0.1% of the population Muslim, and there has been no large packets of social security arrangements. In a country like the Netherlands is 15% of population Muslim and there is a wide range of social security.

    Islam in all its demensions leads to poverty, social and political exclusion and high rates of crime. In the Netherlands the crimestatistics of Muslim imigrants are above 65% and the poverty even more.

    Since it is not the lack of money thats is the problem, there must be an another cause, namely victimization. And we have not even talked about the Cairo Declaration, where the woman and anyone who Muhammed does not love have fewer rights than the Muslimmen himself.

    It is better that the muslim brotherhood talk some education in steadof censor science in general,because before youknow we all live in the middle east.

  16. In the U.S. is 0.1% of the population Muslim, and there has been no large packets of social security arrangements. In a country like the Netherlands is 15% of population Muslim and there is a wide range of social security.

    Islam in all its demensions leads to poverty, social and political exclusion and high rates of crime. In the Netherlands the crimestatistics of Muslim imigrants are above 65% and the poverty even more.

    Since there is no lack of money, there must be an another cause, namely victimization. And we have not even talked about the Cairo Declaration, where the woman and anyone who Muhammed does not like have fewer rights than the Muslimmen itself.

    It is better that the muslim brotherhood take some education in stead of censor science in general, because before you know we all live in the middle east.

  17. Brandeis has shown its hand. At least we know where they stand as just another dhimmi institution of higher Islamic indoctrination. Move on to the next game. This could be one of the best things to ever happen to AHA. At this point, why would she even want an honorarium from such an egg-sucking university?! They have honored her by NOT giving her the degree.

  18. I will bet my life that none of you have ever the Quran or the Hadith of the Prophet(PBUH). All you guys know about Islam probably comes from the biased media. Shame on you for criticizing for what you don’t understand AT ALL. This woman is spreading hate, you know who else did that? The nazis, perhaps Brandeis realized this and saved their name. Not to mention that she is a liar who is just trying to sell her books to suckers like you guys. Who ever wrote this article is a joke. Please, if you are generally interested in what Islam can be, look into the Islamic golden age(what Islam can be if only it were at peace). But I doubt any of you will do that, you think Islam is responsible for what’s wrong with America and all of your measly problems. HA! Your government is what’s wrong with America. You guys like blaming someone else because you don’t have the balls to realize the truth.

  19. It could actually be a good thing. This brave woman’s story will now become widely known as will the truth about “The religion of peace.”

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  21. Islam is an ugly blemish on the face of all humanity. It is so backward it is hundreds and hundreds of years behind other religions, in the way it operates. It is a disgusting disgrace to the modern free and decent world. There is NOTHING you can say about Islam that makes it acceptable as a fair and inspiring religion; nothing .
    The ugliness of Islam is the ugliness of sin and cruelty and deception itself.
    I’ve said this before and I will say it again because it is a stark and blatant TRUTH about that curse on humankind. It is and has been the vengfull enemy of Christianity down through the ages. Islam and Muslims will not forget their bone of contention against the Christain and Democratic world. I think of a quote from the Bible :
    “The devil shall come with the face of God ” ” The devil ” is a religion ( the face of God) Guess which religion ???