As wary Israel Israel caves to Kerry’s threats, “Palestinian” negotiator Saeb Erekat says they’ll never recognize Jewish state and claims his “ancestors were in Jericho 5,500 years before Joshua”


Saeb Erekat, the chief Palestinian negotiator over the weekend again ruled out the notion of Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state. Speaking at a Munich conference, on a panel with his Israeli counterpart Tzipi Livni, Erekat said the demand was unacceptable: “When you say ‘accept Israel as a Jewish state’ you are asking me to change my narrative,” he claimed, asserting that his ancestors lived in the region “5,500 years before Joshua Bin-Nun came and burned my hometown Jericho.”

Apparently when you fake a nation (like the invented “Palestinian” narrative) and you falsify history and falsify the religion of others, you can fake anything, and they do. You’d think that “Palestinian” negotiator Saeb Erekat would know Islam is only 1,400 years old.

Although I concur that his ancestors were indeed Philistines.

“We were here before you and we’ll be here after you leave.” the great Zev Jabotinsky.

And backing up these savages is Obama’s hatchet man, John Kerry, who responds with threats to …. Israel. Kerry threatened Israel with the legitimizing and boycotting of Israel. Naftali Bennett, Israel’s economy and trade minister, wrote that “the Jewish people are stronger than the threats against them.” He added that the Jews would not “surrender their land” as a result of economic pressure.

Meanwhile, thousands of Israelis gathered at Jerusalem’s Western Wall on Thursday to protest against US Secretary of State John Kerry’s threats and demands.

“Israel said set to accept Kerry’s framework proposals” | The Times of Israel

Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat rejects Israel as a Jewish state, claims his ancestors were in Jericho 5,500 years before Joshua

Israel is set to give its wary assent to US Secretary of State John Kerry’s framework peace proposal as the basis for continuing talks with the Palestinian Authority through to the end of 2014, Channel 2 news reported on Saturday night.

The TV report said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman are all inclining to accept the US framework terms, some of which were detailed by Martin Indyk, the State Department’s lead envoy to the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, in a conference call with American Jewish leaders on Thursday. The framework document would have to be finalized in the next few weeks, ahead of a scheduled fourth and final phase of Palestinian prisoner releases set for March, the report said.

The US framework document, whose terms will not have to be signed off as fully binding by the Israeli and Palestinian leaderships, provides for talks on Palestinian statehood based on the pre-1967 lines with land swaps to enable 75 to 80 percent of settlers to come under Israeli sovereignty, relates to Israel as the Jewish state, provides for compensation for refugees but no Palestinian “right of return,” and does not go into detail on the fate of Jerusalem, Indyk indicated.

Well-placed political sources told The Times of Israel at the weekend, meanwhile, that Netanyahu’s agreement to continue peace talks on the basis of the framework proposal need not provoke a coalition crisis with the right-wing Jewish Home party. Provided the framework deal was not binding and was not brought to a government vote, the sources said, the party’s leader, Economy and Trade Minister Naftali Bennett, would likely not choose to bolt the coalition over it.

Reports in recent weeks have indicated that the Palestinian Authority is set to reject the framework document, but these reports have not been confirmed.

Saeb Erekat (photo credit: Issan Rimawi/Flash90)

Saeb Erekat (photo credit: Issan Rimawi/Flash90)

Saeb Erekat, the chief Palestinian negotiator over the weekend again ruled out the notion of Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state. Speaking at a Munich conference, on a panel with his Israeli counterpart Tzipi Livni, Erekat said the demand was unacceptable: “When you say ‘accept Israel as a Jewish state’ you are asking me to change my narrative,” he claimed, asserting that his ancestors lived in the region “5,500 years before Joshua Bin-Nun came and burned my hometown Jericho.”

Several Israeli right-wing politicians castigated Kerry on Saturday for comments he made at the same event, the Munich Security Conference, warning Israel of dire consequences if the current peace effort fails. Kerry said he was utterly certain that the current status quo was “not sustainable… It’s illusionary. There’s a momentary prosperity. There’s a momentary peace.” But that would end if the talks failed, he said, noting that already Israel was facing increased delegitimization and boycott threats. (A series of banks and pension funds in Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Holland have announced a cessation of dealings with Israeli banks and companies in recent days because of those firms’ West Bank activities.)

US Secretary of State John Kerry (photo credit: AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

US Secretary of State John Kerry (photo credit: AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

Kerry said failure to reach a peace deal would damage Israel’s capacity to be “a democratic state with the particular special Jewish character that is a central part of the narrative and of the future.”

The secretary also responded to last month’s highly critical comments about him by Ya’alon, who apologized after being quoted calling him “obsessive” and “messianic” in his push for peace. Kerry said he was “surprised” by the reports, and that rather than being obsessive or fanatical, he and his team were “just working hard, because the consequences of failure are unacceptable.”

In response to the secretary’s warnings about the delegitimizing and boycotting of Israel, Bennett, the economy and trade minister, accused Kerry of incitement and of serving as a “mouthpiece” for anti-Semitic elements attempting to boycott Israel. To Kerry “and all advisers,” Bennett wrote in a Facebook post, “the Jewish people are stronger than the threats against them.” He added that the Jews would not “surrender their land” as a result of economic pressure.

“Only security will bring economic stability, not a terrorist state close to Ben-Gurion Airport. We expect our friends around the world to stand by our side to face the anti-Semitic attempts to boycott Israel, not to be their mouthpiece,” Bennett added. ”In any case, we knew how to stay strong in the past and we will now as well.”

Naftali Bennett (L), leader of the Jewish Home party, seen with Jewish Home MK Uri Ariel at a faction meeting in the Knesset on October 28, 2013. (photo credit: Miriam Alster/Flash90)

Naftali Bennett (L), leader of the Jewish Home party, seen with Jewish Home MK Uri Ariel at a faction meeting in the Knesset on October 28, 2013. (photo credit: Miriam Alster/Flash90)

Housing and Construction Minister Uri Ariel (Jewish Home) was also quick to respond to Kerry’s comments. ”Kerry said today that Israel’s economic prosperity and security are an illusion, and that if peace talks fail, Israel will be boycotted. But the truth is that the only illusions are the peace slogans Kerry is trying to sell to Israel. Slogans that cover up an existential threat to the State of Israel,” Ariel posted late Saturday on his official Facebook page. ”The Palestinians can hardly believe how lucky they are to have such a ‘fair’ mediator,” he added. “This is what incitement looks like.”

Likud MK Tzipi Hotovely, meanwhile, said Kerry’s “threats of an unprecedented boycotts” were “attempts to intimidate Israel in an effort to impose a dangerous agreement that runs contrary to the position of the Israeli government.” She said such an agreement, would “jeopardize Israel’s security,” and be “worse than any economic boycott.”

Likud MK and deputy minister Ofir Akunis also lambasted Kerry for his remarks, saying they were indicative of Washington’s “aggressive policy towards Israel.” He added, “We were here before Kerry, we’ll be here after him as well.”

Israeli government sources quoted by Channel 2 urged Kerry to pressure the Palestinians not Israel, and said that his warnings to Israel only made the Palestinians more obdurate in their positions.

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  • Hans Schaden

    High time that congress got very involved with the islamo-marxist regime’s alliance
    and support of islamic terorism! That “roadmap” was a bad joke from the start —
    any 5 year old knows that the moslems want to externminate Israel (US , too), but our Quislings in government and media continue to serve our enemies!

    After the next rockets hit Israel, the retaliation should be Abu Mazan, Erekat and the totalitarian war pushers!

  • prestigio

    is swino erekat claiming to be
    a canaanite

    • Gary Rumain

      LOL! Well, we do know he’s a pig. Maybe he’s part ape too.

    • harbidoll

      they were called Erekites lol

  • thomaswells

    The Doo Doo bird was on earth before islam. It’s gone now. Islam also belongs in a museum.

    • Gary Rumain

      Yes, but as any arselifter will tell you, Adam was an arselifter. It’s like they’ve got a comeback for everything. They also claim he was a prophet. I’m still having trouble figuring that one out though. ;-)

  • Gleaner1

    The duplicity of the U.S state department knows no bounds.

    It tried to talk PM Margaret Thatcher round to accepting the invasion and occupation of British sovereign territory in the South Atlantic, then it piled pressure on Rhodesia and South Africa to surrender to marxist black terrorists, leading to thousands of murders, now it’s putting pressure to surrender to terrorism Israel of ALL countries.

    I thought America was a friend, if America tries to “talk” away MY country, the UK, forcing me to share it with Muslims I’ll feel like shooting somebody. Kerry, the Brits are going to vote to leave the hated commi EU, get USED to it, help or piss off.

    America and it’s state dept better remember just WHO the terrorists really are.

    • Gabor Fränkl

      E!very word is TRUE. Absolutely. Nothing, but the truth. In turn, howevfer they are definitely on a par with the evil antisemitic Foreign O(rif)fice. Two sides of the same coin.

    • famouswolf

      Gleaner, I agree. As an American vet, I feel like shooting somebody too. We have developing problems similar to yours…muzzies, a far left government, and so forth.
      There is no excuse for giving everything away to a bunch of savages and I am very ashamed for my country right now.
      The true Americans, those of us left, remember.

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  • Judi

    Kerry is nothing more than a stooge for the Muslim-in-chief. If he thinks blackmailing Israel into submission is going to succeed, he’d better think again!

    • Saab Meerkat

      Yeah, pigs and monkeys are smarter than goats and jackals.

    • Gary Rumain

      He needs a swiftboat up his arse.

  • Maranatha

    5500 years, ago???? yes.
    I remember that
    The Vikings and the Aztecs were helping them.
    That’s a true fact… the others.

    • Gary Rumain

      Ah, yes, that explains everything. The Aztecs also built those Egyptian pyramids. That’s why they look the same. ;-)

  • Allahu Ohynksmorr

    So, before Joshua could get there, the “Palestinians” had 5500 years to build Jericho’s walls? And they STILL couldn’t get them right? Those walls fell with nothing but some dancing & horn-playing around them and a SHOUT. Maybe instead of walls for Jericho the “Palestinians” should have been building tunnels UNDER them for 5500 years!

    • Cax

      God destroyed those walls.

  • Robert

    I really don’t understand and must ask, why is the US State Department the interlocutor in this negotiation between Israel and the Palestinians? The US has demonstrated nothing but consistent failures over decades and yet everyone persists in allowing them to posture as having the ability to construct a peace agreement. Pure nonsense in my view. And Kerry is completely inept. If he hadn’t married rich he’s be sweeping out urinals in public washrooms. Israel should suggest some other country (Australia, Russia, Germany, Canada; any country that has not declared anti-Zionist/anti-Semite leanings) take the lead position in the negotiations. Yes, I know the US can pull the purse strings, but not for much longer I suspect. This is beyond frustrating.

    • Gary Rumain

      It started with that fool Dhimmy Carter, didn’t it?

  • M

    Shame on John Kerry! He is disgusting.

  • patricia




    • Gary Rumain

      Send them both to Benghazi. ;-)

  • Mundus611

    There has to be an investigation as to the US agreements with these banks in Sweden, Holland, Denmark, and Norway. The UK reportedly has started to crack down as well. They all insist Israel is breaking International Law by being in Judea, etc.What, if any, states in US have dealings with them. The Congress has to come and hit hard against this Boycott and pass legislation that punishes those banks. Odd isn’t it, that Sharia Complaint Banking Laws that discriminate are acceptable, but Israel that improves these banks and their societies are being punished? Are the Sharia Compliant Law divisions in back of this at the banks? Is Heinz Trust? What is Soros’ role, here? The Jewish Press here has to expose what is happening, and Israel has to get out front and discuss this. what can the Rothschilds do? Yellen at the Feds? This is a squeeze meant to corner Israel, also, not to strike Iran.
    If Netanyahu, Ya’alon, and Lieberman think they can get out of this after agreeing, they are wrong. They have crossed the bridge too far with this. The Right had better make noise and rattle Bibi’s coalition. Where are the Jews of significant influence in the corporations and the banks? They had better wake-up , or there won’t be an Israel in short order. In the meantime, the Talliban and the Iranians are threatening the US in the US as Obama keeps trying to ‘talk.’
    Bibi should tour the US with a speech on democracy, and freedoms.

  • mishka

    A Jewish Blogger

    investigated the ancestori of Saeb-Bagdad Bob-Erekat´s Tribe.

    …family actually comes from the Huwaitat region of the northwestern Arabian Peninsula…..

    ……………Indeed, this article about the dialects and clans of Saudi Arabia confirms the existence of the Erekat (sometimes spelled Areikat or Ariqat) families in Huwaitat, and they are one of seven clans that ended up in Palestine.
    Is Saeb a member of this clan? Yes, he is.

    This Facebook page of the Erekat family traces the Erekat family history, and this article confirms that the family came from the Huwaitat region, and it also that mentions prominent Erekats – including Saeb.

    That article also says that before Huwaitat, their ancestors emigrated from Medina.

    All of the Erekats are related. Most of their most prominent members have held positions in Jordan’s government or armed forces, but three PLO diplomats are from the family, including Saeb, the US representative of the PLO Maen Rashid Areikat, and the PLO’s delegate to the Ukraine Khaled Erekat.

    (Saeb is also implying that he was born in Jericho, but he wasn’t.)

    Saeb Erekat is, once again, lying. Just as we caught him lying many, many times before…………..

    for real, we can call him PLO-Bob, the Pali brother of the famous Bagdad-Bob

    • S_T

      At least until the 1920s the growth of the Arab population — not an isolated case in the region (in Iraq, for example, between 1867 and 1905 the population went from 1 million 250 thousand to 2 million 250 thousand) — had, in reality, little to do with Jewish immigration. As Justin McCarthy noted, “the province that experienced the greatest Jewish population growth (about .035 annually), Jerusalem Sanjak, was the province with the lowest rate of growth of Muslim population (.009).” The increase in Palestine’s Arab population was mostly due to high demographic growth: a phenomenon which started already in the middle of the 1800s, thus prior both to the first wave of Zionist immigration and the first construction company founded in the 60s in Jerusalem by Yosef Rivlin.

      Such demographic growth was accompanied by a reduction in average mortality — placed well below the 40 years in the first decade of the XX century — prompted mostly by the innovations introduced by the Jewish component of the population. The latter, on the contrary, multiplied thanks to immigration, embodied mainly by worshipers, often persecuted, coming from other continents.

      This (immigration) is one of the main points which merits further clarification. Small groups did indeed immigrate in earlier years from outside Palestine. Among these was a group of Egyptians, which settled in Palestine during the years in which the region was subject to the rule of Muhammad Alì. Not long after, a small number of Bosnian, Algerian and Circassian immigrants arrived, who then settled primarily in the Galilee (their presence today is seen in the villages of Rehaniya and Kfar Kama) and at the “border” with Lebanon. Unlike the Jews who arrived in later decades during the Second and Third aliyot — the latters, through practices such as the above mentioned “Jewish Labor,” opted for exclusion and therefore the non-integration with the local Arab population — the aforementioned groups almost immediately integrated with the local majority.

      Most of the Arab Palestinians that Peters and many other “outsiders” defined as “foreigners,” or “former invaders,” were, in reality, people deeply rooted in what Khayr al-Dīn al-Ramli (1585-1671), an influential Islamic lawyer from Ramla, defined in the XVII century “Filastīn bilādunā” (“Palestine our country”); the fact that it was not a separate political and administrative entity did not make al-Ramli’s “Filastīn” less real.

      Maxime Rodinson explained the “former invaders’s myth” taking the English people as a term of reference. “It is ridiculous,” Rodinson clarified, “to call the English of today invaders and occupiers, on the grounds that England was conquered from Celtic peoples by the Angles, Saxons and Jutes in the fifth and sixth centuries. The population was ‘Anglicized’ and nobody suggests that the peoples which have more or less preserved the Celtic tongues — the Irish, the Welsh or the Bretons — should be regarded as the true natives of Kent or Suffolk, with greater titles to these territories than the English who live in those counties.”

  • guest

    “Palestinian” negotiator Saeb Erekat? He never finished school. His associates were too busy burning them down
    when they were not running the preschooler slaver and prostitute ring.

    Sahib Errorkat says 5500 years ago his incest-ors were there? Before Mohammed? Thats heresy! There was nothing before mohammed! A fatwa on his head.

    I think that was Pangaea, the single land mass maybe. He must have documented proof that the single land mass spot was really where Israel is, otherwise I think he stinks of uneducated inbred BS. Let him show us a coin from there.
    Oh, I forgot. All they could do is destroy.

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  • ThomasThePaine

    There will never be peace until the Jews get enough balls to push every so called “palestinian” to the other side of the river and to blow that cursed Dome of the Rock off the face of the earth. . .
    Just what part of “Take possession of your land” can’t they understand?

  • guest

    Tell Kerry the muslims have called for elimination of Israel, and the death of every Jew. Ask him if he understands he is helping them toward that goal? Kerry has been a traitor since Hanoi Jane days.

  • Name

    I don’t want peace with these terrorists.You’re NOT welcome into this world “paLIEStine”.

    • Israel is an apartheid state

      I’m curious where you’re going to go when you’re no longer free to be a miserable racist ar**hole in Israel any more? Surely you’re not planning on coming to the US. We know how to deal with your kind here.