NY Murderer Says Wife Would Still be Alive “If She Was a Muslim”

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If she was a Muslim woman none of this (expletive) would even exist.”

Robert Williams stabbed his wife Sharene more than 30 times in the neck because he objected to “her behavior in their Muslim community.”

Will this devout Muslim cry islamophobia at his sentencing?

The Williams defense called smiting his wife 30 times at the neck “manslaughter.”

Will this devout Muslim cry islamophobia at his sentencing?

Here again, the Islamic supremacist rationalization for murder. Notice how the news report buries the lede.

“Murder conviction for Albany man in wife slaying,” By Robert Gavin, Times Union via Halal Pork Chop (thanks to Religion of Peace)

Albany man’s lawyer said killing was manslaughter, but verdict says otherwise

Opening arguments will be held Tuesday at Robert L. Williams' trial for allegedly murdering his wife. The Albany was arrested after his wife was found dead in their Lark Street apartment last year. (Albany Police Department)  ORG XMIT: MER2014011406435208

He has a zebiba any Muslim would be proud of.

Opening arguments will be held Tuesday at Robert L. Williams’ trial for allegedly murdering his wife. The Albany was arrested after his wife was found dead in their Lark Street apartment last year. (Albany Police Department) ORG XMIT: MER2014011406435208

A jury spent roughly an hour and 10 minutes Friday to convict Robert Williams of murdering his wife in her West Hill home last spring.

The panel of nine women and three men quickly rejected the arguments of Williams’ attorney, Michael Jurena, who admitted Williams killed his wife but claimed it was first-degree manslaughter, not second-degree murder.

That charge would have brought a maximum of 25 years in prison for Williams, 41, a convicted sex offender. He now faces 25 years to life for the murder conviction at his March 7 sentencing.

Sharene Wallace, 37, known as Sakina, was stabbed more than 30 times in the neck inside 279 Sherman St. between May 26 and May 29. Her body was found stuffed in a closet. Williams, who fled to New York City before his arrest, admitted killing his new bride to friends and spoke at length to Albany police.

Chief Assistant District Attorney David Rossi said Williams believed Wallace was cheating on him, but killed his wife because he objected to her behavior in their Muslim community.

“I think it’s clear the defendant felt slighted by Sharene,” Rossi told jurors. “He may regret where he sits today. He does not regret what he did.”

He played the jury part of Williams’ videotaped interview with police. A detective showed Williams a photo of Wallace and referred to the victim as a Muslim woman. In turn, Williams responded: “Muslim woman? If she was a Muslim woman none of this (expletive) would even exist.”

Rossi said Williams took his wife’s cellphone and text-messaged naked pictures of her to all her contacts making it appear that Wallace sent out the pictures herself.

One text said: “I’m so evil I tried to contract AIDS and give it to my loving and caring husband.”

Another text said: “This is me, Sheitan,” a word for the devil.

Another text stated: “I’m sorry everyone but I pretend like I’m a Muslim when in all reality I’m a (prostitute) and I represent Satan.”

An incredulous Rossi told the jury, “We’re supposed to believe Sharene sent that herself? Really?”

Jurors began deliberating around 12:20 p.m. They reached their verdict by 2:30 p.m. And that did not include periods in which the panel was back in the courtroom of Judge Andrew Ceresia for notes. The actual time of deliberation was estimated at one hour and 10 minutes.

In his closing argument, Jurena told the jury Williams killed his wife because of an “extreme emotional disturbance.” Such a condition is an affirmative defense in New York state against a murder charge, allowing juries the option to consider manslaughter.

Jurena told the jury his client became emotionally devastated when he learned his wife was receiving text messages of other men’s genitals. He admitted Williams killed Wallace, but said Wallace came at his client with knives and that his client was drunk.

“This is not a ‘whodunit’ kind of case,” Jurena said. “I don’t usually agree with prosecutors that they’ve proved parts of their case. I usually disagree with everything, but in his case it’s obvious. And there is no dispute.”

But he said the killing — which he accidentally called a “murder” at one point — was not premeditated.

“He didn’t wake up one morning going over there saying, ‘Hey — I’m gonna go kill my wife.’ “

Rossi’s final words to the jury came from a videotape of Williams speaking to Albany police, saying, “This is not one of those instances where the truth will set you free.”

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  • Rick Smith

    His zabiba shines through.

  • salman sovon

    Psycho exists everywhere, doesn’t mean that His religion taught him to do such evil.

    • JM

      Riiiight. Are you using Taqqiya right now? Your imam would be so proud. He will send you two pieces of silver when he’s done fucking his goat.

      • salman sovon

        Have some respect, dude. Don’t act like ignorant. Peace..

        • Pagael

          No, Islam gives Muslims excuses to commit evil and turn to their beliefs from the Koran, Hadith and Mohammed’s way of life to justify it. Truly wicked and deceived people.

          • salman sovon

            We read Quran too, my friend. So Please, Learn before fill hatred in Heart.

          • Higlac

            LIAR!!!!! We know all too well just what the Qur’ân calls for: the DEATH of ALL non-Moslems, dogs, apes and pigs; it also makes plain that women are good-for-nothing whether they be Moslem or non-Moslem!!! I’ve no doubt that if artificial womb technology existed so you could incubate an embryo from conception through birthing-time, you’d eliminate ALL women without batting an eyelid (including discarding female foeti)!!!

            In a nutshell: Islam HATES all life, period!!! It hates EVERYTHING God Created including art, music, science and Western medicine – it in fact hates virtually everything, PERIOD!!!!!

            Truly, DEATH TO ISLAM, COMMUNISM, NAZISM and ALL other tyranny and totalitarianism, PERIOD!!!!! Also: ALL MOSLEMS OUT OF THE WEST!!!!!

          • Jeanne DeSilver

            Under Islamic legal definitions, non-Muslims are sub-human and guilty of sin since they are not Muslim. There is no other religion on earth that devotes as much of its scriptures toward condemning and dehumanizing those who choose not to follow its dogma. Furthermore, only 20% of Islamic scripture mentions religion at all, rather it concerns fighting infidels, conquest, spreading the Islamic political system, and enforcing sharia. “What is evil is evil and it cannot be exempted from criticism by sheltering it under the word “religion”.

          • salman sovon

            whether or not there is Hate in Islam, I’m pretty sure You heart is full of Hatred. Quran calls for Death to all? Please..We read Quran too. And it doesn’t allow to kill anyone unlawfully whether it is a small ant or a giant dinosaur. So please, my friend, Learn. People claims a lot of thing, but not everything is right. Find the truth, my friend, before accusing something. Good day..

          • Higlac

            Don’t you realise that hate begets hate???

            In other words, hate (the obverse of love) does NOT come out of nothing: it has a basis, particularly relative to that Moslems are COMMANDED to hate non-Moslems and to kill them and chop off all their fingertips!!!

            My forefathers suffered under Islam (notably under the Ottoman Turks) for CENTURIES!!!! My grandparents fought Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary in World War I (which saw both empires collapse and lose their ruling houses), with my maternal grandparents fighting the Communist Bóljshjeviki (Bolsheviks) in the Russian Civil War of 1917-20 – which forced them to flee Communism not once but TWICE in the course of their lives!!!

            Furthermore, all 4 of my grandparents as well as my parents suffered under Nazism (which my late father fought!!) in World War II and then Communism ever afterwards – with my parents finally joining my maternal grandparents in fleeing the Iron Curtain. They – and, by their education, myself – thus learned well to hate any and ALL totalitarianism!!!!!

            We know well that Islam, by dint of its hatred of anything outside of itself (including “man-made” laws – it exalts its Shari’ah above everything else and forbids its people to follow anything else!!!), hates free speech, democracy and everything else “un-Islamic”!!!!

            Don’t try your taqiyya and kitman with me: I know it well (especially as an essential component of ALL totalitarianism!!!) and I reject it out of hand with every reason in the world!!! So there!!!!!

          • Aaron

            how can you honestly sit there and claim that this man’s religion did not provide him motivation and drive to do this? why do your imams refuse to denounce the extremists? can you honestly say that Mohammed was a good man? look at what he did. he was a mass murderer. a war lord, who’s favorite wife was only 6 years old when he married her, when he was in his 50’s. even by ancient standards, that was wrong. why would the muslim community have a grand opening, with a huge celebration, for a massive mosque on the 10th anniversary of 9/11, right across the street from ground zero? you claim most muslims follow peace, and are not radical, but the majority of muslims in the world live in places that follow sharia law, which supports the oppression of women and minorities, as well as wife and child abuse. not to mention the religious intolerance it supports. also, every single muslim i have ever met, was a vile anti-semite. so tell me sir, how is fear of your people misplaced? how is disdain for this oppressive, backwards way of life a sign of ignorance and lack of intelligence? now don’t get me wrong, i am in afghanistan right now, i only have a month left here. i have no problem with the PEOPLE who are muslim, in fact i have made several good afghan friends here, who do not hate america. they are not evil, they are good men, who treat their wives and daughters with love and respect. i am an evac medic for the army, so many times i have brought young girls or women to the field hospital after they stepped on a taliban roadside bomb. their fathers come to the hospital to see their daughter who is at death’s door, and these fathers hold their broken girls in their arms and weep. they stay by their bed for days. i can see that they love their wives and children. like i said, it is not all the men who are bad, it is the culture that is bad. and because the culture and religion does not condemn the abuse of women, children and minorities,in some cases it supports it, bad men will take advantage of that. for example, although many fathers have been good, i have brought in little girls with burns, bruises and scars all over their little bodies, scars from flogging on their backs, women with burns on their faces. these women are terrified of us, dont want us to help them. some children, who are only infants who have been burned, flogged, or have their skulls bashed in from a beating. when their husbands or fathers arrive, they are not met with embraces, they are met with angry shouts. if islam’s leading imams would just denounce terrorism and violent jihad, as well as the oppressive parts of sharia law, it would help so much. but for whatever reason, they refuse. whether its out of fear of the radical groups or not, it doesnt matter. it gives the appearance of support. all the major religions have denounced their violent pasts, except for islam.

          • mo123

            A cheating wife motivated him to commit murder not religion. Why don’t you say that about anyone who kills his wife that is of another religion?

          • Higlac

            While there have been instances in Christianity (in cultures influenced by lingering Islamic currents like in Spain, Portugal, Italy and their colonies), under Islam it’s SYSTEMATIC!!!!

          • salman sovon

            Mohammed (pbuh) had the optimum character and manner.
            Don’t just Talk based on what people say. Learn about his life.
            People can claim a lot of thing, sadly not everyone is right. So learn the truth.
            And Sharia is the best law of the world. And it gives right everyone. So learn it and analyze it with sound knowledge. You would understand. Good day.

          • Aaron

            i am not just talking about what people say. ive read about him, read his writing, watched documentaries. history doesnt lie, but tradition can. he murdered and ordered many more to be murdered. there are many parts of the quaran and the hadith that if you read, and you continued to say Mohammed was the ideal man, you would either be a liar, insane, or just as wicked as he was. sharia is the best law of the world/ are you serious/ many parts of sharia are just flat out oppressive, its a tyrannical system. i can see what you are now, and you are not a man with peace and freedom close to his heart. no peaceful man who believes in equality for all would ever claim sharia is the best. i would suggest your read the entirety of the quaran and hadith, especially the unpleasant parts i dont think you have read in awhile, some example might be the section on how women go to a special hell, worse than the men’s hell, how women and infidels are inferior beings, how man can rape his slave girls and wives, how you are ordered to seek out and destroy the infidel until they are no more, and it goes on. i have read the passages that say these things and many more like them. so if you come back claiming these messages are not in your holy books, then i will know once and for all that you are a liar. i have also read passages that say the exact opposite, that you should treat others with kindness, but there in lies the problem. one passage tells you to kill and rape and pillage, one tell you to be good. this contradiction is what causes the problems today, where muslims have to choose which ones to obey. the ones i m fighting, have chosen the evil passages. good day, and hopefully one day you and those who think like you will be no more. this thought process is a blight on our race. p.s. did you know there is not a single developed muslim country/ food for thought there buddy. also, p.s.s everyone knows that homosexuality is condemned in islam. yet how come when heaven is described, young boys are promised as sexual objects/
            Koran 52:24
            Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
            Koran 56:17
            Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.
            Koran 76:19
            And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

            now i m done. if you think i dont read your holy books still, i’ll be more than happy to post more passages that you will probably say don’t exist.

          • salman sovon

            Indeed YOu read Quran, But I’m sure You misunderstood it.
            Read those verse again and read around those verses too.

            Where did you find sexual object from those verse? Those boys are just like Waitress, whose duty is to serve them.
            Plus Homosexual is a crime in Islam. God had destroy those criminal before.

            Just like those verse, I guess you have misunderstood many other verses. So my friend, read Quran very carefully. And Seek protection from Satan before you read.

            May Allah Help you with that…

          • Aaron

            when i read those passages, i did not come away with the idea with them being waitresses. why would they talk about how beautiful they were, and speak about them like they were something the person in paradise desired/ i know that homosexuality is a crime in islam. my point was to show there are examples of contradictions. i will have to look up the other verses i was talking about later, an afghan friend of mine gave me a quran. but rest assured, i have read the other passages around the ones in question, and i can show you what im talking about. the verses im talking about are very plainly written, there isnt much left up to be misunderstood.

          • salman sovon

            In paradise, Everyone will be beautiful. The Quran also mentions about Beautiful women who will sing song. It doesn’t mean that Men will have sex with them. And those boys will not only serve Men but women also.

            For more than 1400 years, People have accused Quran as Evil and contradicted without understanding broadly. So My friend, If you have any Question, ask it to Person with good knowledge.

            I myself didn’t use to practice Islam for a long time. When I started to learn about Islam, There were many question came to my mind about Islam. By this time, I have answer for all of this question as I “Asked and learned”. I hope the question you have about Islam, will be answered in way that will make sense to you. Good life..

          • Higlac

            WOE’S YOU for going back to Islam: it means that you’ve turned your back upon what was and is REALLY GOOD: loving ALL life and loving thy neighbour as thyself!!!

            Your taqiyya proves your AMPLE DELUSION… May YOUR heart be opened to the EVIL that Islam actually IS (especially Qur’ân chapters 2 through 9)…

            Also, ANY “paradise” that doesn’t include dogs, pigs, apes and ALL of what God Himself Created is NO paradise whatsoever!!!

          • Rudy

            You are a liar.
            YOU read some history.

          • salman sovon

            I read whats truth, not any fairy tales. I hope you will too find the truth. May God help you out.

          • Higlac

            It’s the BIBLE that has the truth, NOT the Qur’ân with its many lies, twisting, plagiarism and the rest of that MESS!!!!!

          • salman sovon

            I am not going to attack Bible here, because the people with knowledge already know whats wrong with bible.

            As a Muslim, We worship one and only God without any association. We worship the One who created everything.

            We don’t worship any tree, fire or Man at all. Worship a creation is nothing but a major crime.

            So by calling Jesus a god, You are taking a big risk, my friend. Worshiping creation is not monotheism at all. So my friend, learn about Quran and Islam. There is real good in it.

          • Higlac

            Look: I’ve read the Qur’ân and even a bit of the Hadith. I’ve seen the plagiarisms (often clumsy and very ineffective – how much more intellectually satisfying is the Bible INDEED!!!!!), half-truths, LIES and distortions it has!!!! You pretend not to be worshipping anybody but “allah”; however, the REAL truth is that you IDOLISE Mohammed as the “ideal man”, which to me is as CAPITAL AN ABOMINATION as anything could possibly be!!!!!

            His being a murderer, genocide, rapist, thief, torturer, misogynist, liar (even his best friends couldn’t trust him!!!) , pædophile (as witness with Aisha – only a pædophile can conceive at 54 years old of having sex with a 9-year-old – or “thighing” her beforehand!!!!), caninophobe (dogs are Man’s BEST Friend of all animals!!!!), porcinophobe (pigs are also a VITAL Friend to Mankind – and so are apes!!!), necrophiliac, bestialist and warmonger MOST SURELY place him on the same DEBASED AND DEPRAVED status as Hitler, Stáljin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ljéñin and all those other MONSTERS!!!!!

            I’m FEARSOMELY PROUD to acknowledge and honour Jesus as My Lord and Saviour, to trust Him as THE Only-Begotten Son of God (as it says in the Apostles, Athanasian and Nicene Creeds), “eternally begotten of the Father before ALL worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of Very God: begotten, not made, being of ONE substance with the Father, who for the sake of us men and for OUR Salvation Came Down from Heaven…”

            Jesus and His Father PROVE their LOVE FOR EVERYBODY throughout the New Testament, even past the point where the Son Obediently Suffered a MOST AGONISING DEATH upon the Cross (after being whipped to within an inch of his life only a short while beforehand!!!) so He Can be the Sole Propitiatory, Spotless and Sinless Offering to His Father on the behalf of ALL who Accept and Love Him!!!! What WONDERFUL Grace and LOVE far past any of the Mercy that we humans are so undeserving of!!!! You Moslems have to tremble in front of a “deity” who at bottom has NO love for all that God Almighty Created and Loved from the very first instant!!!!! If you weren’t out to convert us all by FORCE, even by sadistically slitting our throats and torturing us through all possible other means, we would pity you…

          • salman sovon

            Where did Allah came from? Its from Jew who calls “illah” to the God. Muslim add “the” which in Arabic “AL” Together “Al-illah” , which sounds in Arabic “Allah” -The God. Allah is nothing but a name. We worship that One.

            Mohammed (pbuh) had the optimum level of character and manners. Your accusation is nothing but lie. Many people accuse a lot of thing, but there are few which says truth..

            Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of
            their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the
            world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

            How could Your so calling God change his mind from this evil to very loving? God is just, He doesn’t oppress one for others, Just like Jesus, God won’t kill Jesus for the sin of mankind. Have some commonsense,dude.

            And Let God worry about his creation. He knows what to do with all of His creation..

            Let say, What you are practicing is the right one. And we are wrong. Then At the day of Judgement, We Muslim will debate with that God about worshiping creation. Since God says to worship only me and not to the creation, We Muslim has better chance to win the debate.

            So for your sake, Stop worshiping creation and worship the Creator. Don’t risk your heaven for what Paul or John says..

          • Higlac

            I ALWAYS worship and have worshipped God Almighty: Father, Son and Holy Ghost, who INDEED Created “Heaven and Earth and everything visible and invisible” (as the Nicene Creed put it aptly)!!! NEVER do I worship – and never have I been worshipping – what’s crea-TED!!!

            This is independent of any and all saints – though people like Saints Paul and John, Luke, Mark and Matthew have been PROVEN correct by the way they wrote and were so obviously inspired by God Himself!!!

            Now, let’s look at that quote of Isaiah 14:21. Did you look at the preceding or succeeding verses? [I’m also very careful not to fall into the same error when reading or checking things from the Qur’ân as I’m determined that nobody should attack me on that basis either.] In fact, that verse applies to Babylon – and to her master Lucifer, who used to be one of the FOUR archangels (the others are Gabriel, Michael and Raphael) but who so wanted to be God Himself as to turn against his master!!! He was cast out and down (as Isaiah 14:12 makes clear). It’s Lucifer (i.e., Satan) and his monster-city Babylon that are being judged, together with his offspring.

            In fact, the actual prophecy regarding Babylon starts with the 1st-verse of Isaiah, Chapter 13; it doesn’t stop being talked about until verse 28. The last few verses of Isaiah 14 talk about the land of Palestine – also known as the land of the Philistines (Gaza and environs) – and about a grim fate awaiting IT.

            You say “let God Worry about His Creation.” Yet you hate, torture and cruelly kill dogs!!!! [The same with pigs, apes, women and ALL non-Moslems.] You think you Moslems have the right to SIN against God Who CREATED EVERYTHING??? Isn’t hurting anything Mohammed hated HURTING GOD – for in other words you’re taking the responsibility of despising and destroying what God obviously NEVER INTENDED TO SO BE belittled, tortured and destroyed – He LOVED and LOVES EVERYTHING He Created!!!!

            Finally, when the Last Judgement comes, we’ll NOT be able to debate God: instead, we’ll ALL be virtually unable to speak because it will be so nakedly visible how all along it was HE Who was and IS Right – and we humans who were wrong all along!!!! That’s when you Moslems – like all sinners, lots of nominal Christians included – will not be able to deliver yourselves or anybody else.

            No less, Jesus wasn’t killed by God: He OFFERED UP His Life for us!!!! His Father HAD TO LET Him Die so He Could Take the sins of the world upon His Back – for God Hates SIN!!!! When Jesus was burdened with all that sin, THAT’S WHEN the Father Turned His Face away, leading the Son to quote Psalm 22: “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?”

          • salman sovon

            “Yet you hate, torture and cruelly kill dogs” ??? Where did you find that out? We have dog too. Bro.

            About killing Animal: We are not even allowed to kill a ant without any reason. So please.

            Oh yeah, we can debate with God, if we turns about to be wrong. Just like Abraham who worshiped his creator, We do that too. So If Abraham go to heaven by believing One God, then we will go there too.

            Don’t worry about us, my friend. We will manage to do something. Worry about you. Associating partner with God, is a crime which is the most serious crime to him. So Follow the path of Abraham and worship One God who beget not, nor he was begotten.

          • Higlac

            I pity you relative to how thin-skinned you are – which shows me how you at least in this way prove that you can’t accept opposition!!! And then you have the GALL to call me a “bro(ther)” when we know how the moment you could, you’d call me a “filthy kuffar” (infidel) and slit my throat and then dance around me screaming “allahu akbar” while my life-blood spurts out and I choke to death… Is that fraternal behaviour: not only to kill but also to be SADISTIC about it???

            You may have dogs where you are, but they’re never allowed to offer you the love they can feel for all Mankind – you hate them all over the place!!!! [I’ve seen PLENTY of material.about how for blind Moslems you insist on miniaturised HORSES instead who then have to wear diapers – something dogs manage well without!!!!]

            Why don’t you instead try reading the Bible, given that I HAVE read the Qur’ân??? As to “debating” with God: Abraham wasn’t debating as simply talking with Him, even asking Him questions. Yet, you think that associating partners with God is the “most serious crime to Him” – then what of the Great Cloud of witnesses (as saints plus the angels and archangels) that are on hand as his representatives??? [Remember how My Lord and Saviour said in St. John 8:58 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM“. In other words, Christ existed before the beginning of ALL TIME – something only God Can DO!!!]

          • salman sovon

            Who cares what Muslim do.

            We don’t have the desire to kiss or to other stuff with any animals. Plus that is gross.

            If there was Jesus before Abraham, then why didn’t he ask for help of Jesus?
            How could you even worship Jesus, when he even used to worship his God? What can be more clear than this that jesus is nothing but a worshiper of God himself. But you care what people says.

          • Higlac

            You say “Who cares what Moslems do?”

            That way you blaspheme ALL the countries of South-Eastern Europe: Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Hercegóvina, Serbia, Albania, Greece, FYR-Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Austria, Slovakia, Moldova, Ukraine, even Russia and Poland!!!! They ALL suffered for CENTURIES under Islamic raids at the barest minimum, outright Islamic rule at the worst!!!!! And you DARE to say Who cares…???

            Then how come you use animals for your bestial sex-acts (especially sheep or goats)??? Don’t you understand that your track-record betrays you for who you are????

            You ask why Abraham didn’t ask for Jesus’ help: until Moses, Yahweh (YHWH) didn’t reveal His Most Holy Name: Abraham knew God only as El. Therefore, that’s a trivial question…

            OF COURSE Jesus Worshipped His Father and Was in CONSTANT Communication with Him!!! Where’s the contradiction in that???

          • salman sovon

            Did you hear about Latest Vatican scandal or How many of your “Fathers” are accused of sexual harassment? Just because of that We don’t say that Christianity is Evil. That would be something stupid to say.

            A sane,true Muslim would never do any major crime.

            Now Just think in a peaceful mind,
            1.
            If God and Jesus are the same person or If Jesus is the God, then Why would he worship himself?

            2.
            If you say Jesus and God is different, and Jesus is also God, then 1+1= 2 Gods, which is against the Monotheism.

            I know You have some answer, even though it doesn’t make sense, you will think that is right, because that is way you are worshiping this long.

            So, Think this with sound mind, my friend. I know You don’t want to worship some creation either. We will live only once, why taking risk by worshiping creation? Think my friend…

          • Higlac

            To begin with: Jesus, when He Subordinated Himself into becoming Incarnate (i.e., living in human flesh), became subject to exactly the same limitations as everybody else!! Only that way could He Bear the Sins of the World while remaining pure. The Father thus had to continue the running of everything else.

            Furthermore, Jesus was always Serving as the Supreme Example to everybody else: He was not content to leave that task to others; hence His Worshipping His Father.

            As to the Holy Trinity: it still is monotheism because the three components share the Same Thinking, the Same Values, the Same Purposes and Intentions. They are never in conflict – and that’s why the Trinity always ACTS AS ONE. Otherwise, I can only tell you that the doctrine of the Trinity is one of the great mysteries in Christianity; yet, it is one we Christians ALWAYS remember in our prayers, in our liturgies, sermons and everything else.

            I actually am not sorry to spend time with you like this: you’ve actually indeed been ensuring that I can know my faith that much better!!! [How ironic, that having some sort of “dialogue” with a non-Christian is helping this would-be Christian be that much more committed to what he believes…]

          • salman sovon

            So if My father, brother and I, are share the Same Thinking, the Same Values, the Same Purposes and Intentions, then are we one? my brother or father can be punished because of my crime? Thats not what is realty.

            We don’t anyone to pay for our sin. We should must receive what we deserve, unless God forgives.

            Explain me the Original sin, plz? We don’t anyone to pay for our sin, neither we want to share others sin.

          • Higlac

            If you commit a crime, do you have the same thinking, values, purposes and intention as your father or brother? If they don’t commit a crime or condone it in the least, then this will make you NOT having the same thinking as they!!!

            We ALL are intrinsically evil thanks to our original nature ‘ipso facto’ being corrupted by 1) original sin, 2) our anyway being imperfect. [We were made a little lower than the angels.]

            IF we sin and then genuinely REPENT of what we have done and do all we can never to repeat the same sin (at least never deliberately!!!), then yes: God WILL Forgive us – He Assures us of His Forgiveness. [That depends on our honest intentions.]

            At the same time, when we stand before Him at the Last Judgement, we’ll ALL have to deal with our own burdens and nobody else’s: they will be terrible enough as it is!!!

            The Original Sin relates to Mankind’s expressly disobeying God’s Clearly-Stated Command.

          • salman sovon

            About Original Sin: Are you saying A new born baby is a Sinner too?

            let me give you a question:
            If I believe in One God and do not associate any partners with God. And I always do good deeds. So based on your religion Am I going to Hell?

          • Higlac

            Unfortunately, the inclination to sin (i.e., that one’s predisposed into becoming a sinner, no matter how much he strives to avoid it) is present even from conception (see Psalm 51, vs. 5, where it says: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.” – NKJV). HOWEVER, a sinful act won’t be counted against a child as long as he doesn’t understand that what he’s doing is sinful.

            [The above bit doesn’t condemn the act of sexual intercourse per se: rather, it makes plain that ALL Mankind is sinful (i.e., corrupt), and one CAN’T bring forth incorruption from corruption. See Genesis 8:21, Psalm 51, Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10 and 3:23; St. Matthew 19:17, St. Mark 10:18 and St. Luke 18:19.]

            As to your other question: those who’re aware of the perfection of God Almighty and of His Supreme Message of Redemption are in danger of Hell and thence the Lake of Fire because compared to His Righteousness, even the very best we do of deeds are but “filthy rags” in His Sight as follows from Isaiah 64:6 (NKJV):

            “But we are all like an unclean thing,
            And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags;
            We all fade as a leaf,
            And our iniquities, like the wind,
            Have taken us away.”

            Worse yet, the moment when somebody sins, it is as if he has not only transgressed against that specific part of God’s Law that’s involved, but against the entire corpus of God’s Law – unless he repents of that sin and does his best not to repeat it. STILL, it’s with His Grace and FREE-GIFT of His Supreme Sacrifice that we can be sanctified and made acceptable to the Father.

            This does NOT of course mean that we can thus go around sinning all we want – FAR FROM IT!!!!! The full answer to your question is found in the 4th through the 8th chapter of Romans. The Law is ALWAYS THERE so we know what NOT to do; then, by our submitting ourselves COMPLETELY to God’s Grace and Will (an extremely hard thing to do, to truly give ourselves up 100% and more to Him!!!!!). At the same time, we’re told that “whoever gives you a cup of water to drink in My name, because you belong to Christ, assuredly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.” (St. Mark 9:41 as well as St. Matthew 10:40-42)

            Consequently, it is ours to do good deeds at every possible turn without hesitation or delay – but NEVER taking credit for ourselves, giving it instead to Our Lord Who On That Day of the Last Judgement will BOTH go through our deeds AND as to whether we are written in his Book (i.e., database) of Life.

            [Of course, those who’ve NEVER, EVER heard the Gospel message will be given a chance to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour, even at the Last Judgement as need be.]

    • Larry S.

      Perhaps not. Certainly millions of Muslim men do the best they can by their wives. Muslim men may treat their women with respect: Islam does not.

      Perhaps he was unaware of the fine tradition of honor killing in Islam. Perhaps he was unaware of that “excellent role model”, Muhammad, who had an allegedly adulterous woman put to death after her baby was weaned. Perhaps he failed to make that fine distinction between a wife and a slave girl who sterling examples of Muslim manhood could do pretty much anything they wanted to. Traditionally in Islam, I doubt anyone would have blinked an eye if a man murdered his slave girl.

      Islam may have not “taught him to do such evil”, but it certainly facilitated his action.

      • Jeanne DeSilver

        Given the Islamic concept of rape, it is impossible for a man to rape his wives, his slave-girls, or his female captives, for he has a “right” to have sex with them, and they have no right to refuse.

      • mo123

        Honor killing is an abomination. Even ultra conservative imams say it’s wrong.

        • FM

          Mohammed loved honor killings. Are you saying mohammed was wrong!!???!

          • salman sovon

            Are you kidding? Where did you get that from. Islam doesn’t allow killing unless its a crime. So learn, my friend,,

          • Higlac

            Yet Moslems are known to say “to us, killing infidels is trivial”!!! Not only that, the Qur’ân COMMANDS war against non-Moslems, who’re described as “filthy infidels” no less than 109 times; while the Hadith and Sira are every bit as bad if not even worse!!!

            Either way, IF Islam weren’t so insistent on war, killing, rape, torture and everything else – and with its track record being what it is!!! – surely it wouldn’t be hated anywhere near as much as it is!!!!

        • Higlac

          Pure taqiyya – to the contrary, the imams ENCOURAGE it!!! In fact, in Pakistan and Afghanistan, they’re quite happy to encourage mutilation via vitriol-throwing (acid attacks)…

  • David Rosenthal

    He meant it in the nicest way.

  • Mark McDonald

    What does Islam and Radical Islam have in common?
    1. they share the same mosque.
    2. they share the same Iman.
    3. they share the same Quran.
    4. everything is based on their religious beliefs.
    5. they seek to control.
    6.The people of Islam dont condemn what the people of Radical Islam do or vice versa.
    7. Islam and Radical Islam are racist. 8. Islam and Radical Islam dislike Jews.
    8. The Iman get richer from both Islam and Radical Islam.
    9. Their mosque are used as sleeping quarters for both Islam and Radical Islam

    • Jeanne DeSilver

      The so called “moderate Muslims” are currently engaged in civilization jihad (insidious jihad), migrating to our country to change our culture. Their goal is to eventually make the whole world Islamic. If a Muslim does not engage in violent jihad then he must, like it or not, pay Zakat, to support those who are performing violent jihad in the name of Allah. Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish PM, stated that “There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam is Islam and that’s it!”

  • EJO

    “If she was a Muslim woman none of this (expletive) would even exist.”

    If he were not a cold blooded murdering savage, none of this ( expletive ) would even exist.

  • Carole

    Those radical muslim men, the slightest provacation and they become extremely violent even going as far as murder! Islam is demonic!

    • mo123

      I know. No Christian man has ever been extremely violent as to commit MURDER. Oh wait…..

  • Bob Pawson

    The
    TRUTH, Mr. Williams, is that your wife would be alive… IF… YOU…
    were NOT a Muslim. Or, if YOU were civilized. Or, if YOU were SANE. Or,
    if YOU were merciful. Or, if YOU were a MAN. Or, if YOU were human. Or,
    if YOU were HUMANE.

    • Larry S.

      Bob-

      I have no reason to doubt his sanity.

      Besides, I’ll bet he paid for that marriage license, so it’s only just and right, inshallah, that she should follow his religious leadingss, and if she doesn’t, well there is a well-established protocol for dealing with such situations. Where does she get the idea that she is entitled to her own beliefs anyway?

    • mo123

      Yes because only Muslim men kill a cheating wife. It’s never happened in any other religion.

    • Miip

      Agreed. So since he is not civilized and murdered her & viciously. Then put a bullet in his gut so he can die a painful death. End of story

  • J P Sundharam

    Sharene found peace in the religion of piece! At least now people understand what Muslims mean by “Islam is a religion of piece!”

    • Higlac

      In other words, the peace of the GRAVE!!!

  • Altair Trevino

    this guy must of missed the ENTIRE chapter on al nissa or the women. where it speaks of womens rights over the men. and that if you dislike one thing about your wife you will love another. oh and the part of if you cant resolve your differences , divorce is allowed. oh and the hadith that says the best of men are those who treat their wife/wives VERY well and keep them maintained…

  • David Franklin

    Ahhhhhh, that’s nice. The religion of peace…

    • mo123

      Yes , because only Muslim men kill theirs wives.

  • NUHU ABDULHAQQ ISA

    well, it is clear that ignorance is a great disease that circulate in the systems. learn before you make a noise otherwise, you would be addressed as an attention seeker…

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  • billrowland

    This seems to be less of a muslim issue and more of a niqqer using muslim excuses.

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  • Jakester

    While this guy is totally a heinous contemptible murderer, what he really meant was that he believed Muslim wife wouldn’t have riled him up as much as an infidel wife. But he exhibited the normal Islamic contempt for women in the way he sent those post mortem texts pretending to be his dead wife

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