“Islamorealism” in The NY Daily News: Greenburgh Town Supervisor Paul Feiner says our ads are “offensive,” but anti-Jewish ads were OK

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Our counter-jihad ads, running on the same kiosks on the same train platforms as the vicious anti-Israel ads, are causing quite a stir. Dhimmi public officials and media are falling all over themselves in furious efforts to enforce the restrictions on free speech under the sharia.

Greenburgh Town Supervisor Paul Feiner wants Metro-North to warn passengers that the ads could be upsetting and don't represent Metro-North's views or that of the community. Our ads are statements of fact. There have been over 19,441 deadly Islamic attacks since 911. Feiner wants to warn people of what, exactly? The truth? Why didn't Feiner react as viscerally when the same kiosks had vicious blood libels posted about Israel? Feiner is OK with anti-Jewish ads. His bias is showing.

Feiner says, "[Muslims] should not be discriminated against. The posters encourage hatred, discrimination and do not help the efforts to fight hate crimes." Feiner implies that all Muslims support jihad. Sounds like Feiner is painting all Muslims with the same brush. How islamophobic.

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"Metro-North Billboard Flap Rages On" James Arki, NY Daily News, August 16, 2012

The Metro-North is once again the center of a controversy over potentially offensive billboards.

Greenburgh Town Supervisor Paul Feiner is urging Metro-North to put up ads of its own in response to "inflammatory" postings in the Hartsdale station.

metro north billboard.jpegThe ad in question, sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, lists the number of deadly Islamic attacks since 9/11" and says "It's not Islamophobia, It's Islamorealism."

Feiner says the ad can't be removed, but is offensive. He wants Metro-North to warn passengers that the ads could be upsetting and don't represent Metro-North's views or that of the community.

"There are many Muslims residing in Greenburgh and in our villages," he said. "They should not be discriminated against. the posters encourage hatred, discrimination and do not help the efforts to fight hate crimes."

After lots of feedback — positive and negative — from residents concerning the ads, Feiner added that he will recommend the Metro-North donate profits from the ad to education campaigns against discrimination.

"I feel it's not a violation of free speech for Metro North to put up a competing sign and it's also not a violation of free speech if they donate the profits to an anti-defamation league or an organization that objects to hate crimes," he said. "I feel that it should be clear that the people of Metro North and the town do not support this message."

AFDI executive director Pamela Geller said the ad is not hate speech, but merely a statement of fact.

"There is nothing hateful, mean-spirited, or offensive about opposing jihad terror," she said in an email. "Are the facts offensive? It is, as the ad says, Islamorealistic. Islamic supremacist imams around the world foment violence, promote hatred, teach children to hate, and exhort Muslims to gain a place in Paradise by murdering infidels."

The MTA lost a recent federal court case to Geller, who sued after the MTA banned an advertisement, saying it violated standards prohibiting language that demeans an individual or group.

The MTA declined further comment and said its position has not changed on the issue.

Feiner is not the first politician to complain about offensive advertisements on the railroad: The MTA faced a controversy in July over potentially offensive billboards concerning the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Update: The MTA released the following statement July 10 on potentially offensive advertisements: "MTA does not, however, decide whether to allow or not allow a proposed advertisement based on the viewpoint that it expresses or because that viewpoint might be controversial. MTA (along with its advertising contractor, CBS Outdoor) does review advertisements, including this one, to ensure that they comply with MTA's uniform, viewpoint neutral advertising standards. MTA does not endorse the viewpoint expressed in this ad or any of the ads that MTA accepts for display on its facilities."

Here are the anti-Israel ads that ran on the same kiosks. Where was all the concern for the incitement of violence these libelous ads might cause?

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Or these anti-Israel that ran in NYC's subway system, implying that US aid to Israel was an impedment to peace. When, in fact, US aid to Israel is an impediment to the annihilation of Israel.

Anti-israel subway ad

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Sarastro
Sarastro
11 years ago

Your ads are superb and vitally necessary — keep up the good work, I hope you get more funds to post them in many places. How ignorant and uninformed so many people are — they don’t know the truth about Islam, how evil it is. Muslims are savages.

Jim Heller
Jim Heller
11 years ago

Pam, I love you and everything you do and stand for. I can’t say that emphatically enough. You are just f**kin’ crazy fantastic in my book. I particularly like defending your outspoken, bright, bold personal style to people. You embody the spirit of the freedom you fight for so intrinsically that, honestly, I don’t think even you can appreciate how true that is. Does a Stradivarius know how good it sounds? — (Wow, did I just write that?)
I ask myself regularly where we’d be without the likes of you, Robert and other leaders in the counter-jihad movement. I guess, theoretically, and thankfully, for that matter, there are many more who do and will carry the banner in times to come. Of course that’s so. But there ain’t never going to be another Pam Geller!
Cheers,
Jim

Kevin Stroup
Kevin Stroup
11 years ago

Let us say, for the sake of argument, that your ads are offensive. So what?!? What does that have to do with running them? Are you libeling someone? No. Are you using scatalogical language? No. Then what is the problem? If an ad is offensive or not is up to the reader to decide. If you are just stating facts and giving personal opinions, then you cannot control what another persons emotional state is going to be. In any event, why does MTA give a hoot about your ad? The primary question is do you pay your bills on time or not. What is with all these transportation people being little Stalins and deciding who gets to speak? I thought moving people and stuff from point A to point B was their job?

Nat's daughter
Nat's daughter
11 years ago

AMEN, Amen, Amen Jim!!!!

Studs Lonnigan
Studs Lonnigan
11 years ago

No Pam, you need to put sweet little baby faces in your ads like they did in their ads.
Here’s an idea, put a picture of that precious little innocent Jewish girl who was murdered in that French school by a Muslim fanatic. Then have the words, “Will it ever be enough? Stop the Islamisation of the West.”
Also, show a map of Europe like they did of Israel, slowly becoming Islamified.

Gleaner1
Gleaner1
11 years ago

This predictable response from someone whoose brainwashing has induced selective blindness as well, is typical. Perhaps any hatred and discrimination generated is generated by muslims themselves engaging in jihad against innocent people.
Has this chap been in a COMA these last 11 years?

kate b
kate b
11 years ago

or use their “Palestine” map and put the quotes about Jordanians becoming palestinians at a much later date, that ARabs and Jews lived in Palestinians and that Palestinians was the name of the aboriginal people ie Jews.
It’s because they have nicked the name Palestinian and claimed all the land – also by their reckoning I am a refugee to the UK, as I am the grandaughter of an immigrant, and Arab Palestinians inherit their refugee status, no other peoples do this, it’s ridiculous.

Kufar Dawg
Kufar Dawg
11 years ago

Maybe someone should mention the fact that over ten thousand rocket and mortar rounds have been fired, unilaterally, without provocation, by the muslo-nazis in Gaza into Israel. Maybe someone should mention that the charter of Hamas not only calls for the total destruction of the state of Israel, but a genocide of Jews (i.e. when it cites the “authoritative” hadith of Islam that uses such language).

pdxnag
pdxnag
11 years ago

If the government were to “warn” folks of the evilness/offensiveness/incitement-to-violence found in the anti-Israel ads then AFDI could save money.
I would demand information on the cost, including advertising value, applicable to the “warnings.”
If Mr. Paul Feiner wants to proclaim Kill A Jew Day — to celebrate his personal unity with the daily chants of Muslims that follow authentic Islam — he can do so with his own money as a private citizen and try to purchase his own advertisement.
Each local government has some sort of mechanism to make public officials pay back money to the government for their authorization of illegal expenditures. It is like if he used his public position to have the government give him a car, which he would additionally have to pay tax on as income.
Who should pay the legal fees for the government attempt to halt running the ad? Should all the taxpayers have to pay for it or should the public officials who abused their position have to personally cover the cost? If it is cost-free to the officials to be evil then they won’t learn their lesson.

scrubjay
scrubjay
11 years ago

Pam,
Have you seen this:
Muni officials spoke on Wednesday, addressing the ads purchased by the American Freedom Defense Initiative…
Muni will go one step further by placing their own signage next to the message saying, ‘Muni doesn’t support this message,’” the CBS report adds.

This sounds like grounds for a lawsuit. If they don’t put that disclaimer next to every other ad then it is speech selective. How many other opinion ads have they put that disclaimer next to?

Asha108
Asha108
11 years ago

I’d say. let’s sue the idiot Paul Feiner for selectively taking offense to side with lying savages!

Choi
Choi
11 years ago

Paul Feiner is a LEFTY DEMOCRATIC JEWICIDAL.
It’s NOT too soon for an opponent to come forward and begin building a campaign to take him out of Power.
Feiner is another example of Democratic Party ABUSE of Power.

Laminin Cross
Laminin Cross
11 years ago

The poster in that bottom photo should have a disclaimer attached to it that says, “read the quran, there will never be peace, stupid!”

Betty Pierce
Betty Pierce
11 years ago

the bottom picture should say it is nice to DREAM. right?

Walter Sieruk
Walter Sieruk
11 years ago

As for those messages on billboards that expose the reality of the threats of Islam. Sme people would get offended by them. The reason for this is that sometimes the truth may be offensive.

Paul Brown
Paul Brown
11 years ago

Greensburg Town Supervisor Paul Feiner thinks it is hate-speech win Pamala Geller and her people post signs on busses that speak out against Jihad Savagery, and that Muslims should not be singled out. Yet if anti-semites and Jew-haters want to post signs defaming Jews, he’s alright with it. What a hypocrite!

RAY ALLEN
RAY ALLEN
11 years ago

STOP SENDING OUR MONEY TO ANY AND ALL MUSLIM NATIONS , CUT THEM OFF 100%

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