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Why aren't the Bosnian Muslims held to the same standard as the Serb Christians? Why is this fabricated narrative protected so fiercely? The left is spitting bullets every time I post on Bosnia. They are so vested in establishing a militant Islamic state in the heart of Europe. Why?

The American people were fed an endless supply of distortions and deceptions in order to grease Clinton's war. It began with a lie. How long will these human rights activists and international law clowns ignore the Serbian people and their stories? Refuting the Bosnian Lies.

The international community jumped to manufacture a "genocide" of a couple of hundred people, when real genocides like the millions of Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians by the Muslims are systematically ignored, demied. Enough. When does the truth get a hearing? Scroll here.

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This letter in the Edmunton Journal speaks truth to lie:

Mladic's record distorted

Edmonton Journal May 31, 2011

Re: "Mladic trial a time for Balkan truth," Opinion, May 28.

Thanks for the ambitious headline: "Mladic trial a time for Balkan truth."

We can only wish that truth were the goal of The Hague.

The Journal says that "Unquestionably, justice is the prime imperative behind the arrest and coming trial of the Balkans' dreadful Ratko Mladic."

Using the preface "unquestionably" doesn't make it unquestionable.

The Journal says that "It is true that in the most passionate of conflicts, nothing will shake some people from false or distorted versions of past events."

Serbians and the many reputable critics who have witnessed the reporting and trials that came out of these civil wars will firmly support that statement. What is a false version of past events? Could it be that changing the definition of genocide to fit the crime Mladic is accused of is a falsehood?

Thousands of Serbs around Srebrenica were slaughtered, tortured and beheaded by Muslims based in the Srebrenica "safe haven." There was no question about who did it: Naser Oric, the leader of the killers, photographed his victims and bragged to Western journalists. This man got a light sentence -a slap on the wrist.

Who would believe that Mladic will get a fair trial?

There was never a Serbian plan, much less a Mladic plan, for a greater Serbia, but sloppy reporters, including The Journal, in using those words.

Anybody can pick up a package of past articles written about the conflicts and spit it out again. The Journal coyly states that if Mladic is convicted it will be for specific, verifiable crimes, but he has been convicted again and again in the press until he is finally being sent to this kangaroo court to tie things up.

The Serbian people are a dignified, justice-loving people whose story is ignored.

N. Jakovac, Toronto, Ont.

What the media refuses to report on are the facts.

 
Deutsche Presse-Agentur June 6, 1996
Senior official admits to secret U.N. report on Sarajevo massacre

For the first time, a senior U.N. official has admitted the existence of a secret U.N. report that blames the Bosnian Moslems for the February 1994 massacre of Moslems at a Sarajevo market.

Yasushi Akashi, the Undersecretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and the former head of the U.N. mission in Bosnia, told the German Press Agency dpa that the secret report is "no secret."

An international outcry over the massacre, in which 68 civilians perished at Markale marketplace, led directly to a toughening of Western policy towards the Serbs, who were widely blamed for the incident.

But there have been persistent rumours at the United Nations ever since that a U.N. report clearly blamed the Moslems for firing on their own people in order to create international sympathy and get the West to fight on their side against the Serbs.

Until Thursday, U.N. officials strongly denied the report existed, even after it was quoted in press reports.

Akashi told dpa that not only did the first report exist, but that some journalists already had a copy. He said the details were in a 1995 story by U.S. journalist David Binder, who quoted from the confidential report.

According to Binder, the report said U.N. peacekeepers were prevented by Moslem police from entering the site in the aftermath of the explosion. No doctors were allowed on the scene and the 197 victims were carried away to hospital within 25 minutes.

After studying the crater left by the mortar shell and the distribution of the shrapnel, the report concluded that the shell was fired from behind Moslem lines. U.N. monitors reported no Serbian shelling that day from points near the marketplace.

The official U.N. report that was subsequently released said the evidence as to who fired the shell was inconclusive, since it originated from an area where Moslem and Serb lines were very close. The two reports represented divergent views, but the United Nations chose to publish the neutral report and keep the other secret.

The incident led to a NATO ultimatum to Bosnian Serbs to withdraw their heavy weapons from around Sarajevo.

At the time, Madeleine Albright, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., said: "It's very hard to believe any country would do this to their own people, and therefore, although we do not exactly know what the facts are, it would seem to us that the Serbs are the ones that probably have a great deal of responsibility."

CORROBORATED IN THESE 3 CLOSING PARAGRAPHS OF THIS AKI REPORT from Dec. 2007:
Bosnian Serb leaders have claimed that the attack was engineered by Bosnian Muslim forces to lay blame on the Serbs and some UN officials in Bosnia have speculated that it may have been the case.

[Dragomir] Milosevic has argued that Muslim forces were entrenched in Sarajevo from where they shelled Serb positions, thus making the city a “legitimate target”.

Since its founding in 1993, the ICTY has indicted 161 individuals, mostly Serbs….

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Stephanie
Stephanie
12 years ago

The Real Bosnian Genocide
The REAL Srebrenica “Genocide” NOT reported by the corrupt, racist pro-Islamist Nazi Western corporate controlled media, was the brutal mass murder – using axes, knives, daggers, sledgehammers, iron bars, flamethrowers and explosives – of 3,870 Serbian elderly men, women and young children in and around the town of Srebrenica and its adjoining villages (Bratunac, Skelani, Kravica, Milici, et al) as well as the town of Gorazde

Majumder
Majumder
12 years ago

Islam has always been a favorite religion of American and British government. No matter which political party (Republican, Democrat, Tory, or Labour) is in power, government’s stance on Islam remains reverential.
When Muslims commit genocides, news media follow typical government’s lines and portray Muslims as victims.
Muslims are not described in American and British televisions as perpetrators of war-crimes.
President Ronald Wilson Reagan danced with joy when Muslims blew up a few Russians in Afghanistan.
President Reagan used to think Islam meant “Freedom”. Wherever Islam took its hold, President Reagan used to say, “Freedom” had just arrived. Islam was “Freedom” to American President Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Attilashrugs
Attilashrugs
12 years ago

The real cause of the dismemberment of Yugoslavia was a German project stretching back to the late 19th Century. As The Ottoman Empire died-back, the vacuum was being filled by the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Russian Empire, and the “impudent” nationalist state of Serbia. The continuation of Serbian independence was an “affront” to Vienna. Good grief, what if the other nationalities of the multiethnic central and eastern European Empires sought sovereignty?
The Serbian Nationalist movement the Black Hand assassinated the heir to the throne of The Habsburg (Austro-Hungarian) Empire. As we all learned in High School (before HS was devoted to denouncing American slavery and oppression of brown peoples), Gavrilo Princip assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, the capital of Bosnia-Herzegovina. This pathetic city saw the beginning of WW1, and the ironically suffered in the final battles between the rivals of The Great War! B-H was part of Austro-Hungaria. Princip a Serbian shot him. Austro-Hungary already resented the “impudence” of a tiny state existing amongst the playground of giants to begin with. Now armed with a Grievance as if made to order, this Slavic Orthodox Nation could be attached to Catholic Vienna. After a series of worsening demands, ultimately to allow Austrian troops to enter and conduct the investigation, were refused, Austria declared War on Serbia. The Orthodox Slavs looked to their ethnic and religious friends in Russia. Russia mobilized her massive but very slow to deploy army. Germany, newly formed from the welding together of the myriad of German principalities that had existed between Austria and France, under the flag of Prussia, had become the newest Great Empire on the block. France had an alliance with Russia. And Germany had recently humiliated la France in the Prussian War, forcing her to surrender Alsace and Lorraine. If Austro-Hungaria declared War on Serbia, and Russia Mobilized, Germany, Austro-Hungary’s ally, would have to mobilize. The German Empire was in a dangerous position, potentially in a two-front war with France and the Russian Empire. Its strategy was to quickly attack France with a swing through Belgium cutting east along the English Channel before turning upon Paris. The goal was to knock France out of the war before turning to face the slower but larger Russian Army in the east. The rest is History. Britain had an agreement with France and a guarantee with Belgium. The Great War cascaded into the Great European War of The Twentieth Century. There was a truce in 1918. Every single one of the eastern european empires had vanished. A system of weak nationalist states arose. Hitler resumed the war in 1939. The war left the remnant of Europe drained and dependent upon two non-European, though Western Powers: The USSR and the USA. The subsequent Cold War was a time out. But when it ended, the SAME ISSUE REMAINED. The Vatican desired to take the Catholic portions of Yugoslavia (which was cobbled together in the aftermath of the Great War, and survived WW2) out. Germany, wanted the Serbs checked. Recall that Yugoslavia was essentially a Greater Serbia.
The final act of the Four Act Play was the dismemberment of Yugoslavia, leaving Catholic Croatia and Slovenia to link up with the German-Catholic Imperium. Bosnia-Herzegovina now had to pried out of the rump of Yugoslavia, or to be accurate, Serbia. This had been the German goal since the 19th century! Modern Germany inherited the appetite from Austro-Hungary (a Germanic Empire also). Germany and the West brought in handy Muslim radicals to destabilize the long history of harmony between Christians and Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina. The Serbs were branded as evil, blood thirsty thugs by The West as it digested Yugoslavia. Finally the time for Serbia itself to pay came. Archduke Ferdinand would be avenged! Kosovo had been a part of Serbia for all of Serbian history. It is a region where the great battle against the invading Turks was fought and lost. Think of it as The Alamo. Think of the Islamic Albanian immigrants and Islamic Kosovars as Mexicans, and demanding independence for San Antonio. The Kosovo Liberation Army was filled with islamic militants from Afghanistan to Morocco. Al-Qaida happily enlisted. Both sides committed atrocities. But only Serbia was blamed. Germany threatened to bomb Belgrade in a rerun of its 1940 heyday. The specter of Maltese Cross bearing Luftwaffe again darkening the skies of Belgrade was too much for the rest of Europe to countenance. So, instead of not doing it, they got Clinton to do it! The USA completed the Play begun by Gavrilo Princip in 1914. Finally the impudent Serbs were put in there place, with even Kosovo taken.
But perhaps there is another Act to follow. If the War Crimes Trial pushes too hard, do not think Russia will turn a blind eye to her Serbian friends.

Attilashrugs
Attilashrugs
12 years ago

Majumder: That is a bit too general a statement. The Raj was as happy aligning with a Hindu prince against a Muslim as the reverse. Americans had almost no knowledge of Islam until 9/11. Yes our first overseas expedition was against what would be considered Islamic Terrorists, yet the religious dimension was not thought of in anyway whatsoever. The Barbary Pirates could have been Lutherans for all it mattered! Reagan left Lebanon with little love for Islam, I would guess.

armaros
armaros
12 years ago

I do not see either side (of the 3) as exclusive victim or perpetrator in this war. The media picked its villains and heroes. Denied Muslim crimes, including the ones which prompted the Serbs to take Sebrenica but a war crime did take place there. They also played down the Jihad and the Jihadi roots of Izetbegovic who was carefully shielded by the other Bosnian leaders who looked more Western, when it came to interacting with the media.
Sebrenica was NOT a Genocide. To suggest that is patently false. The Serbs took the town and knowing that if they handed it back to the UN, the Muslims males of fighting age (children as the media calls them often as some were under 18) would have continued to attack them.
Therefore they killed the Muslim males of fighting age. The most common war crime born not out a a genocidal desire (though all 3 sides had people among them who had genocidal desires like in every tribal conflict in history) but a military objective. The Russians, and on smaller scales even the Allies did this all over Europe near the end of WWII. If there were no means to holding so many prisoners, the alternative course was deployed. War is no fun and decisions are not about roses and candy vs massacres.
Attila
You are right that Germany played a hand in this. But so did Russia, France, the UK, Turkey and Greece. Like in WWI, most nations of Europe had their hands in this conflict. Yugoslavia was never meant to be. It was an illusion born in the heads of idealists. By the end of the 70s only Serbs believed in it. The rest felt they were living under hegemony. True that the country was gorgeous and probably the South Slaves would have lived better and stronger together than in pieces.
However human nature dictated this and ideals often want to deny, ignore or oppress human nature. In this case, the nationalistic, religious and also tribal impulses of the people in this region.
By 1990 the Serbs looked like they were holding onto red socialism while the others were pulling West. In Eastern Europe those who “pulled West” usually were influenced by Germany as Germany was in an ideological battle with communism being or having been divided between the two. France and the UK either played appeaser or were hiding behind America when it came to facing down the Soviets.
Bosnia was especially tragic because it had all 3 major nations within it. They were bound to get at each other once the rest around them was imploding. The major problem which did occur was what they call the “onion theory”. Once you peel the top the rest will want to peel with it. Bosnia was never a country like Croatia or Serbia. It was an administrative entity under Turkey and later Austro-Hungary. This is why the war there was especially vicious and unrelenting until the ethnic maps re-aligned (as the result of morbid crimes committed by all 3 sides) and NATO came to occupy the place.

armaros
armaros
12 years ago

Gorazde, as I recall was the place where the Muslims did nothing to prevent the Serbs to enter the town. They wanted a massacre knowing that the TV screens were there.
I recall the British UN General explaining on the BBC that they didn’t even put logs across the roads to slow the Serb tanks down and herded civilians into the mines to hide knowing that the Serbs would find them and kill some of them to again play the media game.

Mac-101
Mac-101
12 years ago

But why are the Russians afraid of assistin their Serb brothers?

GCOnly
GCOnly
12 years ago

A couple hundred, you say? How about over 8,000? Was it a typo or did you not know?

Majumder
Majumder
12 years ago

If you follow the time-lines of major events following the provincial government established by the British East-India Company in 1757, you will find that during the first 100 years British rulers were taking part with Hindus (Pagans) to unsettle Muslim nawabs and kings.
That trend continued even after the mutiny of 1850’s and even when Her Majesty Queen Victoria took over the control of “British India” from the East-India Company.
However, after 1870 British imperialists started to explicitly favor Islam and Muslims over the Hindu (Pagan) masses of Indian Subcontinent.
In their mindset, British imperialists always disdained Pagan faiths; but, held Islam — the religion of Prophet Muhammad — on a higher ground.
British historian Fergusson and his ilk started to promote the idea that, prior to Islamic invasions the whole Subcontinent was in economic and political darkness due to Pagan faiths.
British historians promoted the falsehood that a Muslim Mughal King named Shah-Jahan built “Taj Mahal” (Tejo Mahalaya).
Here is a link for you.
http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/godbole_taj1.html
And, finally, “Two-State Solution” that created Pakistan was also from the British imperialists’ master plan of elevating Muslims and demonizing Pagans.
Furthermore, at its inception, Pakistanian ISI was commanded by an Australia-born British military officer who adored Islam and Muslims, but despised Pagans.
During Islamic riots, with sharp daggers when Muslims were slicing the breasts and genitalia of Hindu (Pagan) women after gang-raping, British military officers were standing-by and facilitating Muslims’ “Holy” Islamic acts against helpless Pagan women.
All of the tolerance of Islamic atrocities was due to the fact that Muslims are the “Chosen people” of Allah.
Allah is a tribal god that lives in Saudi Arabia, who has repeatedly commanded Muslims to kill Pagans, rape and torture Pagan women.
So, as you can understand, British government’s love for Islam dates back more than a century.
Now, I come to President Ronald Wilson Reagan’s love for Islam.
When Hizb’Allah founder Fadla’Allah bombed and killed over 200 American military service-persons in Lebanon, President Reagan immediately withdrew American military presence from Beirut to show respect for Islam.
Because of his love for Muslim “Freedom Fighters” in Lebanon, President Ronald Wilson Reagan thought further American military presence in Lebanon would hamper Islamization of Lebanon.
When Muslim “Freedom Fighters” were throwing acid on the faces of school-going girls in Afghanistan, President Ronald Wilson Reagan in the White House was probably laughing out loud with so much joy for Islamic “Freedom”.
As for not knowing much about Islam before 09-11-2001 was due to the fact that American government does not want non-Muslim Americans to know true history of Islam and Muslims.

Majumder
Majumder
12 years ago

Don’t you remember that Soviet Union collapsed in the late 1980’s?
Don’t you recall that after Joe Stalin died there was no one like him in Russia who could curb on Islamic forces?

Xavier823
Xavier823
12 years ago

Part of the problem is that of major Christian organization like the Vatican rarely stand up verbally or physically for Christians around the world when they are persecuted by the followers of the” religion of peace” Islam. All it would have taken from the pope was a few speeches calling Clinton out and demanding he protect the Serbian Christians from rape and murder that the Muslims were inflicting on them also. It would have put ” Bill I want everyone love to me Clinton” between a rock and a hard place.

Majumder
Majumder
12 years ago

Vatican never stood up to Adolph Hitler. Hitler killed more Christians than any other religious groups.
Official Soviet figure of death-toll during Hitler’s “Operation Barbarossa” ran as low as 26.7 million of whom majority were Christians and minority were other religious groups.
In our modern time, Vatican acts as pacifist.
During Middle Age, Vatican had military aspects into it as it had to confront Muslim invaders via numerous Crusades. Without Crusades, Europe would have been entirely Islamized today.
In our recent history, American government killed over 5 million Vietnamese who were non-Muslims and who never flew aeroplanes into American buildings as revenge-attacks.

Majumder
Majumder
12 years ago

Correction to typographical error:
The official death-toll on both South and North Vietnams was 2 million, which means American government directly killed approximately a million Vietnamese people.
No American president, however, went for trial at the ICC for American war-crimes in Vietnam.
President Bush II, VP Dick Cheney, SOD Rumsfeld, and SOS Dr. Rice are yet to be charged with American war-crimes in Iraq.

John P
John P
12 years ago

Oric openly bragged about his beheadings of Serbs. He followed the quranic ordenance that slaves-of-allah not take prisoners until jihad is successful. His Genocides preceded whatever was done to muslim supremacists in sovereign Serb territory.
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/oric.htm
What was Oric’s motive? “Islamization.” He used the breakup of Yugoslavia, to create an islamonazi heartland to serve as a dagger against Judeo-Christian Europe. He complemented the Hitler-Hussayni alliance for Genocide.
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/documents/islamic-declaration.pdf
The Dhimmi-Clintons served as hand maidens to muslim murderers. Nobody asks Hillary why it is illegal to either build or renovate a Christian Church in the bosnian-terrorist-entity. GBW deserves equal shame for working for the formation of the kosovo-terrorist-entity, with its albanian-narco-terrorist backers.

Georg von Starkermann
Georg von Starkermann
12 years ago

As a German whose family members fought for Germany in both World Wars, I can honestly say that the comments above have to do with one thing and only one thing and that is OIL. The Muslims have the oil and everyone in the world wants it. It’s as simple as that. Hitler needed the oil so he was friendly towards the Muslims. Other than that fact, no one would have given a damn about the Muslims.
The Serbs have had a long standing hatred for the Bosnians and the Croats. The genocide by them against the Serbs is legendary. Ironically, the genocide against the Jews who lived in Serbia and Bosnia was worse when compared to any other area in Europe on a per capita basis. Everyone seems to forget these facts. Everyone except the Serbs. That hatred towards Islam goes back a long way. It also be noted that Serb Christians during WW2 helped save many Jews from a certain death. They should be commended for those actions.

Stephanie
Stephanie
12 years ago

Thank you for your reply Armaros
http://newstime.co.nz/real-bosnian-genocide.html
WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK: http://schnellmann.org/The_Real_Bosnian_Genocide.pdf (PDF 2.2 MB)

GCOnly
GCOnly
12 years ago

Crusades were not done in defense. They were a conquest.

Praapje
Praapje
12 years ago

Oh boy, you are wrong! Initially the crusades were meant to free Jeruzalem and surroundings from the muslim armies. THis was done for the Christian pelgrims and not for the jews. There were some atrocities committed by some crusaders which are inexcusable. But the INTENTION was to free Jeruzalem after it was invaded by the muslims. So, yeah, it was a defensive and yes, a legitimate action.

GCOnly
GCOnly
12 years ago

Oh, boy are you wrong! The Byzantine Emperor asked the Pope for help against the invading Turks, and the Crusaders went on to add the goal of taking Jerusalem back. Except it was not returned to the Byzantines, the last Christian nation that had owned it (albeit not in 461 -four hundred sixty-one years) it was instead set up as its own nation.
So- no, the goal was initially to help the Byzantines out, but they were betrayed even being taken over by those coming to their aid.
It was not defensive because it went far beyond what the Byzantine Emperor had asked for, and he was betrayed by having his rightful lands of Jerusalem taken from him.

Mac-101
Mac-101
12 years ago

Putins chopped Liver? He calls himnself a religious Orthodox Christian. How better to save Russia by firing up Nationalism by supporting their Serb brothers? Looks like Russia will be Muslim by 2030.

gsw
gsw
12 years ago

They [the left] are so vested in establishing a militant Islamic state in the heart of Europe. Why?
The last alliance of the Socialists (NSDAP) and the Islamists resulted in WWII, which they lost, so this time they want to make sure they win.
Simple.

GCOnly
GCOnly
12 years ago

Your link proves nothing, except that religious tensions are kept alive by petty historical revisionism. I detect an obvious bias in that site, and I think the anti-jihadist movement should do well to stay away from Hindu fanaticism because it is not drastically better than that of the Islamic variety. You sound sore that Hindus today do not rule over Muslims, and you blame the British. It should be expected, since you can’t come to terms with the fact that many from both sides (Pakistan and India) wanted it to be separate.
Furthermore, how dare you say such things about Reagan? If ever a shining example of conservatism stood tall and restored America to her pride, it was him.

xyzabc
xyzabc
12 years ago

During his life-time, Prophet Muhammad murdered, converted to Islam,
or drove away Jews, Christians, and Pagans from Arabian Peninsula.
After Prophet Muhammad died at the age of 63, Islamic conquests of
non-Muslims’ lands and properties did not decline, rather flourished
under the auspices of Muslim rulers.
Muslims invaders conquered the Byzantine Christian Kingdom.
During Islamic conquests the conquered non-Muslim men were beheaded,
non-Muslim women and kids were taken into slavery unless the
non-Muslims surrendered and/or converted to Islam.
Forcing non-Muslim women into sexual and other forms of slavery was
the method of conquering Islam.
Crusades were in response to brutal Islamic military conquests that
seized Christian populated lands.
Without Crusades, Christians would have lost the entire Europe to Islam.
One modern day example would be American military bombing of
Afghanistan after September 2001.
America did not bomb Afghanistan before 2001. America bombed after
Muslims attacked America.
Similarly, Crusades were in response to military invasions of Muslims
in Europe. Christians wanted to reclaim their lands from Muslims via
Crusades.
To say that “Crusades were NOT done in defense. They were conquests.”
are incorrect statements.
Crusades helped Christians militarily defend Europe from being
completely taken over by Islam.
Following link might help you understand the basis of all Crusades.
http://www.aei.org/speech/29055

xyzabc
xyzabc
12 years ago

During his life-time, Prophet Muhammad murdered, converted to Islam,
or drove away Jews, Christians, and Pagans from Arabian Peninsula.
After Prophet Muhammad died at the age of 63, Islamic conquests of
non-Muslims’ lands and properties did not decline, rather flourished
under the auspices of Muslim rulers.
Muslims invaders conquered the Byzantine Christian Kingdom.
During Islamic conquests the conquered non-Muslim men were beheaded,
non-Muslim women and kids were taken into slavery unless the
non-Muslims surrendered and/or converted to Islam.
Forcing non-Muslim women into sexual and other forms of slavery was
the method of conquering Islam.
Crusades were in response to brutal Islamic military conquests that
seized Christian populated lands.
Without Crusades, Christians would have lost the entire Europe to Islam.
One modern day example would be American military bombing of
Afghanistan after September 2001.
America did not bomb Afghanistan before 2001. America bombed after
Muslims attacked America.
Similarly, Crusades were in response to military invasions of Muslims
in Europe. Christians wanted to reclaim their lands from Muslims via
Crusades.
To say that “Crusades were NOT done in defense. They were conquests.”
are incorrect statements.
Crusades helped Christians militarily defend Europe from being
completely taken over by Islam.
Following link might help you understand the basis of all Crusades.
http://www.aei.org/speech/29055

xyzabc
xyzabc
12 years ago

[Your link proves nothing,… ]
That book provides an honest historical time-line.
[…except that religious tensions are kept alive by petty historical revisionism.]
Historical timeline is NOT historical revisionism.
[I detect an obvious bias in that site, and I think the anti-jihadist movement should do well to stay away from Hindu fanaticism because it is not drastically better than that of the Islamic variety.]
I can only hope you truly understand WHAT you exactly wrote there.
[You sound sore that Hindus today do not rule over Muslims, and you blame the British.]
I only described the historical pattern of British government’s love for Islam.
Nothing else.
[It should be expected, since you can’t come to terms with the fact that many from both sides (Pakistan and India) wanted it to be separate.]
What terms are you referring to?
I personally have NO terms with you or your “EXPECTED” outcomes.
I only described the historical facts.
[Furthermore, how dare you say such things about Reagan?]
Truth hurts!!!
[If ever a shining example of conservatism stood tall and restored America to her pride, it was him.]
Let’s not go over Ronald Wilson Reagan’s “Conservatism”, especially with a creature like you.
Time is precious to me.

xyzabc
xyzabc
12 years ago

[Your link proves nothing,… ]
That book provides an honest historical time-line.
[…except that religious tensions are kept alive by petty historical revisionism.]
Historical timeline is NOT historical revisionism.
[I detect an obvious bias in that site, and I think the anti-jihadist movement should do well to stay away from Hindu fanaticism because it is not drastically better than that of the Islamic variety.]
I can hope you truly understand WHAT you exactly wrote there.
[You sound sore that Hindus today do not rule over Muslims, and you blame the British.]
I only described the historical pattern of British government’s love for Islam.
Nothing else.
[It should be expected, since you can’t come to terms with the fact that many from both sides (Pakistan and India) wanted it to be separate.]
What terms are you referring to?
I personally have NO terms with you or your “EXPECTED” outcomes.
I only described the historical facts.
[Furthermore, how dare you say such things about Reagan?]
Truth hurts!!!
[If ever a shining example of conservatism stood tall and restored America to her pride, it was him.]
Let’s not go over Ronald Wilson Reagan’s “Conservatism”, especially with you.
Time is precious to me.

Attilashrugs
Attilashrugs
12 years ago

The Vatican has its own agenda, and it is not necessarily parallel to that of the Anglosphere. Despite the EU’s current Constitutional atheism, it will either change in that regard or vanish into insignificance. The only way for the EU to capture the heart and soul of Europe is to notice the Islamic Invasion and recognize its danger. The Eurocrats in Brussels are completely disconnected from their constituents, if that is even an appropriate term for the elected miniscule numbers voting in EU elections. The “right” is on the rise. The media in Europe as here, is very much more alarmed at the thought of nativist pride, rather than at the demographic deluge which will overturn democratic governments. But despite being labeled “Hate” groups, these groups are pushing back from the specter of Eurocratic Tyranny. The scheme to dilute national populations with Islamic aliens in order to weaken resistance to a European identity is now exposed. The push-back, to be successful, will necessarily be aimed at restoring the term “Christendom”. My spell check originally did not even recognize that word! But the Vatican is patiently awaiting the day when Europeans come to understand that European power in the world rose and fell with Christianity. And then The Vatican will matter, just as it did in the 1980’s with Solidarity in Poland.

Attilashrugs
Attilashrugs
12 years ago

The Left is made up of folks who truly believe the West has been an oppressive and malevolent force in history. They are ashamed at European (and its American and other off-shoots) dominance. Since the claim of European superiority in any way whatsoever smacks of racism, they feel they have to undermine all of the achievements of Western Civilization. This world view is Post Modern. It is the result of applying the unbiased eye of science onto societies in general and then upon our own. As scientists, they must shed any bias and are obliged to not notice the complexity of Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony as compared to a Didjeridu concerto in frog croak minor. Aztec cannibalism is to be remarked upon but not judged. After all many Christians eat the flesh of Jesus on Sundays, they may opine! No, nothing to see here in Western Civilization, move along now. This worldview is that which is inculcated in our institutes of “higher learning”. The children know it is bullshit. I suspect most or many of their professors know it is bullshit. But college is P-ARTY time! Animal House, a movie of my generation takes place in an imaginary 1950’s campus. What is has done is to predate the drug and alcohol abuse back one generation to give it more “legitimacy” as typical college behavior. I wonder how many college kids have ruined their lives by emulating John Balushi?
The LEFT must agree with all who have grievances with Western Civilization. They need to show that they are educated and understand the relativism of all cultures. They also need to show that they, unlike everyone else is willing to suffer to make things right. Self-flagellation chanting mea culpa is the sign of a “moral” and “educated” person.

Attilashrugs
Attilashrugs
12 years ago

One other thing on Higher Education: by pretending to believe the crap that the professors pretend to believe, and prove they can talk the talk, they get their ticket punched to becoming a Corporate Tool. Of course they mock the obvious tools, desparately darting their eyes left and right to be sure they are not appearing to look too earnest nor too slack; just a modicum of “cool”. “Cool” is the great secret to understanding the culture. But I will write about that as a topic in itself.

Patchman123
Patchman123
12 years ago

Yeah,
there’s one problem with that statement about the US killing 5 million Vietnamese. THOSE VIETNAMESE were ARMED with weapons shooting at our soldiers trying to kill them and wound them and maim them. What about the South Vietnamese killed by the Vietcong? What about them? No more far-left relativist propaganda. There is no comparison. The Vietnamese killed and main t
The Vietnamese do not care about the war anymore. That war was settled in 1975 after Saigon fell. The Vietnamese have no reason to attack us because that war is over. The Muslim wars however are ongoing. There is quite a bit of difference there. Vietnam was NOT a genocide. I think you are insulting veterans here, who fought against Communism. The 15 million Afghans killed by the Soviets in their Vietnam mean nothing to you also. The firepower used by the Americans hurt people, but WE were killing people armed with rifles shooting at us. We were at war with Communism. They were trying to kill us. Do not dare try to call Vietnam a genocide like this. The Vietnam War was not a genocide and never will be!

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