Pamela Geller Interviews Donald Rumsfeld

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I ambehind on posting. Busy, crazy busy. When things calm a bit, I will tell you everything. Here's a few minutes with one of America's greatest post-911 defenders, Donald Rumsfeld.  Here is some background on what we were discussing. Links on sharia in Iraq

Here's the interview I am referring to with Feith

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James
James
13 years ago

You cannot battle Muslim ideology. It is innate to Islam and Islam cannot be moderated. You are a Blasphemer if you try. You cannot negotiate. You cannot have a peace treaty with Islamists because of Taqyya. War is Deceit. Pamela, I have been reading your block for over a year now and am amazed that you give the praise you do to Rummy. You and Robert know what Islam is. You know there is no way to defeat Islam except through warfare. There is no peaceful solution to the conflict. Islam cannot exist in the same space as freedom. Those who think they can placate, payoff or assist Muslims to reject their faith because we are the good guys and tell them so are delusional. Their goal is WORLD DOMINATION at all costs. Their ideology of loving death over life is built into the Quaran. You cannot change Islam. You can only defeat it. With all the nice patriotic words Rummy has for fighting this battle he doesn’t understand what I thought you understood and what Robert understands. There is a sickness called appeasement and diplomacy that has never worked in 1400 years. This same sickness gave us Hitler. Peaceful Muslims only exist out of ignorance of the faith they were born into or out of the doctrine of biding their time until they have the numbers and power to wreak havoc. Islam is a Cancer on this world and will be the demise of freedom in this world if we don’t get a leader who says “No negotiation Period. We are going to kick your butts and wipe this demonic curse from the earth.” That is the person I will vote for for President. Rummy is on the other side of the moon from this.

James
James
13 years ago

A couple of things that can be done in America to combat the spread of Islamist ideology is to OUTLAW SHARIA COMPLETLEY, outlaw the Burka, Remove all Qurans from American jails and prisons. Force monitoring of Mosque sermons and if we can’t monitor then no mosque. Mosques are the only houses of worship that exclude entirely people of other faiths. End Immigration of Muslims to America, Deport all Muslims whose visa has expired. Make it a crime to incite Jihad in America. End Multiculturalism. Prevent hate speech laws from being enacted even though there is hate speech against Jews and Christians, it is total cover for the valid criticism of Islam. Prevent Muslims from holding Security clearances in Govt or teaching Islam in Federally funded education institutions. All are Constitutionally sound and completely within our laws to do so.

k9gs
k9gs
13 years ago

For once in my life I will heed my mother’s advice, if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.

k9gs
k9gs
13 years ago

The argument to the banning of anything is that it just creates more fire in the belly, rebellion etc, however, I agree 100% w/you. Doing these things will at least slow down the jihad and potentially save American lives. I am not sure the majority of Americans will ever “get it” and be willing to do what it takes.

Amanda
Amanda
13 years ago

Pam,
That was a great picture of you at CPAC on Wonkette. What was that in your left hand?

sDee
sDee
13 years ago

Fine advice for the high school prom. A complete surrender of truth in the battle for humanity and freedom.

John K
John K
13 years ago

Fast work getting the transcription up.
Just a note in the interest of journalistic style – please omit the “uh”s in transcribing.
The man was gentlemanly enough to grant an extemporaneous interview. While nothing can be done about the tape, at least don’t make him look like a fool in transcription.

sDee
sDee
13 years ago

Pamela, it was interesting to me that although Rumsfeld did callout the danger in appeasement created by people who feel they must appear “sensitive about engaging and discussing those issues for fear of being accused of being against a religion or something like that” and, even though he leveled the criticism directly at Holder and the Obama Administration for failing to “even identify who the enemy is”, Rumsfeld still was clearly choosing his words carefully.
You leveled a laser focused question and used your knowledge and tenacity to get him to say what all of us should be demanding our politicians fess up to. You put every pathetic “professional journalist” to shame.
Imagine if “Just Watchin’ out for the Folks” O’Reilly had asked that question to Obama last Sunday and had the courage and conviction that you possess, to force Obama into the corner.
But what do I know…. I’m just a Gellerite.

bernard
bernard
13 years ago

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/02/12/brit-muslim-kids-learning-to-cut-off-hands-of-thieves/
British Muslim children are being taught how to chop off thieves’ hands and being told that Jews are plotting to take over the world at a network of Islamic schools.

Stephanie
Stephanie
13 years ago

Not “radical Islamist (construct of the West) teaches to kill”
The sadist Allah teaches to kill unbelievers
2.191 Slay them (unbelievers) wherever ye find them

Paulc
Paulc
13 years ago

James: your take on Rummy is uncalled for. You have no idea what agency would have accomplished. Your remarks I consider cynical to Rummy as you ignored the outcome of the agency he set up to deal with this.
I agree with all you say about Islam itself.
Now I want to see those words in print at the Washington Post and NYT. We have to identify Islam as anathema to everthing of value and our Enemy like Japan and Germany were labeled our enemy.
America thinks Islam is a religion. We got a long way to go. Another attack on our soil appears to be the catalyst thats needed. Lives must be lost again. I hope our Media experiences that personnaly. They threw Danny Pearle under the bus, so it must hurt big time.

Rootwitch
Rootwitch
13 years ago

NOT social justice
BUT Equal Justice
NOT politically correct
BUT HONEST
NOT common sence
BUT Good Sence
NOT moderate slam
BUT Orthodox Islam
NOT allahu akabr
god is great
BUT
allahu akbar
Allah is Greater

jim
jim
13 years ago

James – you are 100% correct. History is going to be unkind to the “leaders.” The Islamic Movement has reached Phase 4 and they are coming fast…..watch Saudi, Yemen, Algeria, Jordan as they start to fall. Caliphate will be here in less than 5 years. Read Lawrence Wright’s article from New Yorker in 06 that exposes their strategic design. OIC is proto-Caliphate already. Just moved their HQ to Al Quds…..Israel…sharpen swords my friends. China and (maybe) Russia will align with Caliphate……Follow closely the anti-multiculturalism in Europe….this is the beginning of a resistance and it is not happenstance that France, Germany, UK and Australia have all said that MC has failed. China is building empty cities for millions. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339536/Ghost-towns-China-Satellite-images-cities-lying-completely-deserted.html
Mao said he thought nuclear warfare was an option and that all it really meant was “millions of bodies” to dispose of. Anybody who wants to understand the beast that is coming…..you need to read Mao, Mohammed and Alinsky…..and you need to read them now.
Pamela – please look forward and not backward. Feith was/is/always will be a clown…..he is a sophist academic selling a false history. If OSI was so important it would have been done…..there are always ways to get things done. After 9-11 they could have nuked countries and the people would have supported them……..they are still clueless to this day. Notice that both of them didn’t want to talk ideology with you…..much rather talk about their organizational answers. Bollocks!

Hilary Jones
Hilary Jones
13 years ago

Wow James! You are so COMPLETELY right on! Bravo!
I have to agree with James here, Pamela. No compromise with Islam. Islam must be seen as an enemy to defeat. Anything less, is an exercise in futility.

James
James
13 years ago

I don’t think I was off base for Rummy. I do have a complete idea of what the agency would have accomplished. Spending billions more which would in turn would be used against us. Yea it is really nice to think that we can improve impoverished Muslim countries and raise their standard of living so that maybe they may question their ideology and adherence to it. The problem is, everything Islam touches goes back to pre-medievil times regardless. You can’t change it. One outgrowth of Rummy’s outreach is in Afghanistan where they are sending our troops in harm’s way without rounds chambered or with just small arms. It is designed to placate the civilian population. An Administration at war that is overly concerned about civilian casualties ends up killing more of our own treasured young men and women. We are at war and the last 5 Administrations, since Reagan were more concerned about world opinion than protecting America and fighting an implacable foe bent on World Domination. Yeah GW took out Sadaam but Rummy dropped the ball big time by not having a plan for the aftermath. The awakening helped but that was not our doing. It was Al-Qaeda’s brutality and Iran’s Shiite meddling through Sadrists that prompted that. I have lived among Muslims in 6 countries for the last 20 years. I think I grasp the ideology. And, they have it right. In war you fight to the death with all your might or you lose the war. If the west doesn’t wake up we will lose everything.

refuse2lose
refuse2lose
13 years ago

This is a great example of why we are having such a hard time defeating Islamic radicals. People like Rums think if we talk nice to them,they will put down their weapons and we will all walk along the beaches and sing praise songs. IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!! When will you people realize that Islam HAS TO BE DEFEATED????? There is no middle-ground with them….. either we bow to them,or we don’t and someone ends up losing. Only one group comes out on top in this,there will be no peace. I thought at least Pamela was smart enough to figure this out.

k9gs
k9gs
13 years ago

Would rather me bash Pamela? Because I certainly don’t have anything nice to say about it, for the most part I respect her work, but not this time.

Robin Shadowes
Robin Shadowes
13 years ago

Finally the islamisation affects the traitorous elites themselves!
Finally, what goes around comes around. Erik Reinfeldt, 16 year old son of PM Fredrik Reinfeldt has been culturally enriched. We can be safely assured it is arselifters since they have ties to the criminal gang the Black Cobras. I haven’t found the news in english so I link to a swedish site. Google translate is fairly ok these days anyway. Not perfect but ok.
http://politisktinkorrekt.info/2011/02/12/erik-reinfeldt-blir-berikad/

Steve
Steve
13 years ago

Great Site!
BTW, we have 8, and counting, CPAC videos posted now on Common Cents….
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com

Mitch
Mitch
13 years ago

Well put. Very well put. Until our leaders understand that Islam and American liberties are completely and unequivocally incompatible, we will not defeat this problem.
We MUST eradicate this cancer from our country. It has NO place here. If these people are here, and they are preaching that Islam is superior to and should replace our U.S. constitution, then they should be IMMEDIATELY DEPORTED (on their own dime).

Jamadagnii
Jamadagnii
13 years ago

It’s nice to know for a fact that the government has always been aware of the political aspect of Islam and its basis for the wars and the terrorist threat we live with daily. I understand Rumsfeld’s explanation that the government is in an awkward position making comments about what is considered a religion; however we have seen that nine years of avoiding the subject has left many Americans confused and stupid. We’ve got well meaning people defending something which could hurt them. We can’t have that.
If the US is truly a great and open society and if that actually means anything, the whole truth about Islam must told. If decent Muslims feel uncomfortable about it then maybe they will get motivated to do something about it. And if they insist on being supremacists then at least they and the naive altruists who support them will be exposed and rejected by the majority of Americans for rational and fair reasons.

James
James
13 years ago

A real good book to read is Dragon’s Fury. It is about China and The Greater Islamic Republic teaming up to wage all out war on America and the West. Written a few years back, it is almost Prophetic in its premise. Over 700 pages. I couldn’t put the book down. I have lived in the Middle East, the Caucuses and Hong Kong. With mind blowing accuracy of current technologies and a complete understanding of the motivation of these two enemies, you will be spell bound. I just stumbled upon it and tell all what a must read it is. It is totally free. No registration required. Download in PDF and start reading. You too won’t be able to put it down. http://www.dragonsfuryseries.com. If you really want an idea of a very real possibility of how the next few years could go. Don’t miss it.

James
James
13 years ago

Islam
Equal Justice – except for Women and Non-Muslims
But Honest – unless Taqyya comes in handy
But Good Sense – Only if the Mullahs say it is
Orthodox Islam – The only Islam there is. Everything else is Blaphemy
Allah is Greater – The Pagan Egyptian Moon god is Not God much less greater than

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